Arsenal Banter Archive May 04 2013

04 May 2013 23:28:48
rumours surfacing of david villa agreeing terms with arsenal, is this true, and if so, will this mean no jovetic?

05 May 2013 01:50:32
i hope its true, I would take david villa if we could get him cheap enough.
were missing a striker like him even if he's getting old he still adds something we don't have. dj gooner

I would have taken Villa 5 years ago but not now, it's alright scoring goals in the sun in perfect pitches all your career, middle of winter getting battered at Stoke is a different matter.
Not a solution to any of our problems.

1404

04 May 2013 21:57:45
How fickle are we?

Where are the Ramsey and Shezza haters?

Where are the play podolski up front shouters?

We need to learn that we do have some real quality players, we do need to add a few but we really need to get behind our players, there is not a player in the world who has not been through a bad patch but us gooners seem to be the quickest supporters to call for players heads when they are off form.

Yes I agree it was not comfortable today, but a win is a win, utd have ground out results for years and their supporters are always behind their players.

I still think both are not top class.

1 swallow does not make a summer.

Shaneyd {Ed027's Note - Since when does any team have top class players through out?

Man city and Chelsea have top clss in all areas. Manchester United too. Chelseas reserve gk whose in loan is the best keeper in Spain.
I wouldn't class any of our players as such aside from Caz an Jack.

Wen we were successful we had Cole, Campbell, Vieira, Pires, Bergkamp and Henry who were all the best in the league at what they did. This season not a single player in team ofthe year
AG

Good post mate but trust me, it's not just Arsenal fans that do this.

AJH

05 May 2013 08:45:06
I'm right here just under the 1 game justifies my opinions.
1404

REAL MADRID you could argue every position is top minus RB

Best keeper in Spain? Has he forget about Casillas?

So he's better than Valdez and Casillas but not Cech?

Headsgone

Headsgone - Atletico have the best defence in the league and its been very much down to the form of Courtois, 34 clean sheets in 70 league games.
And yes, i'd say he's better than both Casillas and Valdes.

04 May 2013 21:30:35
Today confirmed how important Giroud actually has been to us this season. Despite not being the most clinical striker, he works hard for the team, (unlike Podolski has done up front) gives us a plan B option, and links up well with the rest of the team.

HP

Agree. We're not saying he's r. v. p level, but he has been missed.
Flybo

I agree, I have been an advocate of Giroud all season, he is deceptively quick and is second to none in winning knock ons in the air and getting on the end of crosses. All the best coaches never worry if the player gets in the right positions and misses, this is for good reason he will score at least 20 next season if he gets the same playing time.

04 May 2013 20:30:01
Rambo and Arteta put another good shift in

3 points big points in the bag even if we made a meal of it

SY4

Well and good putting in a good shift, but where was the quality against let's be honest a poor team.

We have settled for mediocre at this club with players that are good at putting in a shift, we need quality, they could easily have nicked a goal.

Saddens me that we have accepted such standards at this club.

Shaneyd

I don't think we have settled but were holding out till the summer to see if these change are really coming. I have settled with the fact THIS team ain't good enough but all we can hope for is hard work get us over the line for cl and then demand change. I have said here before let's give this supposed money to wenger that he didn't have till now give him the chance with a few pound to improve our team/squad if no change comes then protest put banners in the emirates do whatever it takes to change policy at our great club.

Sure Utd fans are happy when their central midfielders put in a decent defensive shift and create a goal!

Both had an integral part in the goal and clean sheet

SY4

04 May 2013 19:46:05
Crucial but certainly not convicing. Far too nerv racking for me. I'm sick and tired of having 80% of possession but still having your heart in your mouth going into injury time. Heard it on the radio, and if it wasn't for Shez pulling out a cracking save by the sound of it in the last 5 minutes it would of been over for us.
I don't want to come across as a doom merchant. We did get the win which is what it's all about, but F##K me we don't make it easy for ourselves.
To those who watched it, does it look like we're missing Giroud? Opinions appreciated.
Sorry for the negativity, but I'm losing it.
Flybo :- (

Definately missing Giroud for me, too many high balls being put up which Podolski doesn't stand chance with. Missing Giroud holding the ball up and dare I say it shooting, something a lot of the players seem to have forgotten how to do!

N. Wales Gunner

We are missing Giroud a lot. Anyone who's given him stick needs to take a real look at themselves. He links everything, we're really lacking movement in the middle/final third and Giroud gives us this.

04 May 2013 19:25:20
well done shezza:) saved our bacon there. save as good as 2 goals:)
next hurdle wigan, they are NO push overs: (
COYG! andi

04 May 2013 18:41:37
Need to move Walcott to the middle and bring ox on out wide, pod is offering nothing

Walcott needs to stop paying attention to whalers he is on the Pitch look at Bale it's not about where he starts but his movement 20 goals from RW is made he shouldn't worry about being in the middle

Also Walcott isn't very strong and would struggle to hold play up where as podolski is quite built just looks like his lost his mojo
Dandan

04 May 2013 18:19:49
Arsenal missed thier chance of taking pop shots at goal, with the sun in the keepers eyes. I'm sure qpr will be, if the sun is still out.

04 May 2013 17:25:33
What a player Bale is.

Painful to say, but he puts that spurs squad on his back week in week out.

Yep
good young monkey boy does it again. he's carrying the spudettes at the mo.
COYG, andi

Yes he is!
But why are our "final balls" so poor.
Watching the QPR game. The approach play is fine, but the killer pass just doesn't materialize.
Here's a thought from the past.
Cesc would slide the perfect through ball virtually every game.
Still, you never know?

04 May 2013 13:04:22
hope we get douglas he's an upgrade on squilaci, djourou and mertesacker and also available on a free iturra is also available on a free he cold be a good squad player an interest edd in these players {Ed027's Note - No that I know of mate

04 May 2013 12:09:28
_______________________________
| Szczesny. |
| Jenkinson. Per Mer. King Kos. Gibbs. |
| The Ox. Rambo. |
| Theooo. Captain Jack. Cazorla. |
| Podolski. |
|______________________________|

Subs:
**All of which are good enough to compete for a place in the first team.

Vermaelen. Monreal.
Arteta. Rosicky. Coquelin.
Giroud.

Reserves:
**Young talented players, some will hopefully make the step up next season.

Martinez.
Miquel. Meade. Yennaris.
Ryo Miyaichi. Eisfeld. Gnabry.
Joel Campbell. Akpom. Watt.

Out:
**We will try to get rid of all of the following players, mainly to free up money for wages. We won't find buyers for them all. But hopefully most of them will go. That or their contact is about to expire.

Fabianski. Mannone.
Sagna. Squillaci. Santos. Djourou.
Diaby. Arshavin. Frimpong. Denilson.
Gervinho. Chamakh. JuYoungPark. Bendtner.

**We already have a decent transfer kitty and that should add a few million to it.

Shortlist/Targets:

Mignolet. Reina. Casillas. Begovic. Adler. Vorm.

Williams. N'Koulou. Dragovic. Sahko.

Richards. Montoya. Corchia. Boyce. Lowton.

Wanyama. Gonalons. Capoue. Seb Rode. Essien.

Fabregas. Alexis Sanchez. Isco. Belhanda. Ben Arfa.

Jovetic. Villa. Remy. Benteke. El-Shaarawy. Higuain.

**Personally, I would love us to add a few proper "World-Class" players, rather than 5 or 6 squad players because thanks to The Proffessor we already have good depth in the squad.
We've rebuilt over the last 8 years and are now finally in a position to compete financially for players that would be an automatic selection for the first eleven.
From that shortlist I want:

Iker Casillas
Micah Richards
Cesc Fabregas
Gonzalo Higuain

Very unrealistic I know. But not impossible! None of them are getting regular first team football and could revive their career at The Emirates

04 May 2013 09:38:25
The perfect day

Watford get promoted
Spurs loose
Arsenal win

Watford gooner

Moved to hull when I was younger so swap it for hull promotion. They are my second team. Working nights don't get to the emirates much so a tigers win and arsenal win will be worth staying up for
MgM

Well 0 out of 2 so far please don't make it 0 out 3.

A bit ironic that alumina getting injured in the warm up would deny watford promotion
Hull play like stoke Steve Bruce in charge we will loose next season
Thankfully walcotts goal should guarantee us top 4


Watford gooner

04 May 2013 06:26:38
Fabregas is coming home!!

03 May 2013 22:30:35
Heres a little question for you all:

In the past there has been a lot of discussion between us and utd fans as to whether wilshere or cleverley is the better player.

This is obviously silly as Jack is vastly superior, however I would be interested to know who people think is better - rambo or cleverley?

Both seem to do a similar job, tidy with quick feet but not spectacular. One has taken a lot of abuse whilst the other is widely lauded. Thoughts guys and gals?

PWR Gooner {Ed027's Note - That is a comparison bright Man Utd fans make (very few lol), I think Ramsey tbh, he just gets abuse from fans who have to single someone out, they've all got back into there shell over the past few weeks, Aaron offers more all round, and if he bulks up I think he could be some player, Clev is also a good player, both frustrate at times, both don't like to keep it simple and I like that, the thing is Clev plays for Utd and he's able to take risks without anything being said, but we have a team where everyone likes to take risks, Ramsey takes the most

First and last time I posted was to defend Ramsey and since he has probably been one of our best players over last 5-6 games.

Spot on edd. Ramsey will be pivotal to our next title winning side. soon no doubt :)

Eire Gooner86

04 May 2013 07:32:00
Truth be told there are 3 better midfielders at Arsenal in Chamberlain, Wilshere and Ramsey, all are be a lot better player than Cleverley.

Having watched them all a lot Cleverley is without doubt the least impressive. He brings nothing to the Utd team other than being a ball carrier. The Arsenal three in there careers have all changed games with there ability, albeit Ramsey before his injury, he is on his way back there now though.

I would think that Cleverley will be sold to one of the lesser EPL teams within 2 years. Still no real Idea why he gets in the England team. Adam lallana brings more to a game.

I would just like to say I've never hid from my criticisms of Aaron and have been the first to heap praise on him in recent months and as posted earlier think he is by far the most improved player in our squad, the criticisms came from all the needless flicks, giving the ball away etc that used to drive me insane.
I never doubted that he had a great talent and never wanted him sold but felt like a loan spell for a year would do him wonders, thankfully he pulled his socks up and has proved all his doubters wrong, but ed is right it's a shame that the doubters are as quick to congratulate as they are to criticise.

Thinking about it, apart from Jack at Bolton has a young player ever been on loan and its actually improved the player?

1404

I see Wilshere more like Gerrard and cleverly like lampard

I think Wilshere is better has his all round game is strong and he can influence a game more

At the beginning of the year I would have said cleverly was better than Ramsey as Ramsey had hit a stalemate

But after Xmas Ramsey has really grown and developed whereas cleverly has hidden abit and gets lost in that united team at times
Dandan

Good question given that we wanted Ramsey and he signed for you. I think a lot of us are waiting for Cleverley to 'arrive'. Sometimes he looks good, sometimes, he disappears. I find it hard to reach a firm view on him and I don't think I'm alone. However, I feel the same way about Ramsey. He was the next big thing and I, know he had a shocking injury, but he's not kicked on to that top level. So, both have great potential, but neither have reached the highest level yet. And yes, I'd rather have Wilshere and have been quite open on our own page about that.

AJH

Yeh simple answer neither are top draw tbh. bit like chamberlain, valencia, jenkinson etc

04 May 2013 14:08:00
REDman,

What a load of drivel, why would you associate our players with Valencia.

Pathetic excuse, it's not our fault you have not only Cleverley, but Nani, Anderson and Valencia.

Jenkinson got an England call up, Rafael who you guys go on and on about got torn a new one by Ozil, Di Maria, Mata and Hazard, but as usual you let that slip by in your he'll be world class bollox.

After those two games he even came out and said he should have a call up to the Brazil squad. Really.

The boy is still learning!

03 May 2013 21:54:08
30 Apr 2013 14:21:29
Wenger to PSG?!
Probably not true as they've been reported as having pre-signed Rooney, Ronaldo, Ashley Cole and everybody else but, if it happened, good or bad for us?
Bit worrying that somebody new will come in and spend even more money down the road. They make out they've not spent anything because they're in profit when actually they've bought loads in 2-3years; Mertesacker £10m, Arteta £10m, Ox £10m, Monreal £10m, Cazorla £15m, Giroud £11m, Gervinho £11m, Podloski £11m, Santos £6m and so it goes on!

If they invest heavily even further then we'll never get above them after two years of gilt edged opportunities to do so.


Found this on the spud page! Glad they know we are the better team!

-Homesick-

03 May 2013 20:57:17
The reason we have started so slowly in the league in the past two seasons is due to the changing faces at the club, to quote jack wilshere; " the last time I put an arsenal shirt on I was passing the ball to cesc and samir, now I'm playing with Mikel and santi. It's like going into a new team. "
Therefore expect little change to the team this summer; maximum 3 players; jovetic, gonalons and corchia/ carajval.

Jovetic is completed based upon champions league football the same with gonalons. The two right backs are being courted so it is a matter of time before fees are agreed and one is signed.