04 Oct 2015 23:51:14
Ed,
Lukaku? Hit or miss?
An enigma?
He can have a stinker, but on his day, ala West Brom, the guy is unplayable.
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04 Oct 2015 23:48:23
Steve,
I see down the page u asked do I think this is a one off.
Yes and no tbh lol, we are not silly or deluded to know we are in any way the finished article yet.
We got in 4 New starters at least this window, hiccups and bumps were always to be expected.
We have made great strides going forward in the last 2 years, 7th to 4th a squad knitting together nicely and hopefully improvement again.
This season we expect to be fighting but any United fan will tell u we don't expect to win it without a really open title race (which I don't think it will be).
Today we just got our tactics horribly wrong (understatement).
We complicated a game that didn't need complicating really.
We will be better next time :)
Again well done on the win mate, I don't think I've seen a 30 min spell like that for a long time.
It somewhat warms me a bit knowing there wouldn't be many if any that could of withheld that either lol.
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04 Oct 2015 23:58:27
Top man ctr. Some of your signings for me are on trial but one who isnt, martial, the kid is the real deal and ouses class, impressed with him.
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05 Oct 2015 00:05:41
CTR I have said that you guys don't stay down for long! You have come on leaps and bounds in a few years. As it turns out you have bought well and you guys ain't shy on spending if need be. I don't ever like crowing but a few scoffed when I said if we turned up we would give you a spanking. I feel that the result was dependent on how we played, you guys have got a blueprint but have not yet got the cohesion or quality to be a great team( something that is enevitable at United and will come) we are so hot and cold and that has always been the problem. No major silverware for years for us but cast your mind and tell me of a time you can remember when we have gone a whole season and not played top class football for a period in a season. Every season we show real class. But never have we showed that for most of a season only ever glimpses of greatness. I do feel that this year both us and United can have a go although my money is on city by hook or crook although they look shady at times
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05 Oct 2015 00:11:09
Yes he has it! a real player there.
I wouldn't say on trial as such, most have blended in nicely and better consistent performances will come with time.
Spyder, Darmian, Depay, Martial, Smalling and De Gea are all 25 or under and are not even near there prime so they will get time.
But we had to be careful on the numbers we bought in for squad balance etc, to many to soon and all that.
Anyways I don't wanna clog this up with United chat, today is not about us it's your turn in the light :)
We will get better!
:)
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05 Oct 2015 00:13:58
Chris,
I think LVG's team selection undid you today.
How Schneids sat on bench and Schwieny played is beyond me.
Schneids would have got tighter on Cazorla and would also have helped out Darmian
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05 Oct 2015 00:16:28
Damn, didn't finish post lol.
And you need somebody to help out Smalling.
Blind is a bit of an enigma.
Centre Half? Not sure, he seems a bit of a Callum Chambers type of player, can play here, can play there, but not too sure where to put him.
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05 Oct 2015 00:26:52
I don't think the selection was to wrong tbh (I would of preferred Spyder), it was the tactics that was strange.
If we want to play like that it's fine, but it always has to be Rooney that picks up Cazorla not Bastian.
We allowed u to nick the ball and break quickly and to many times our CM was out of position exposing our fullbacks.
It's not Darmian or Youngs fault they got caught out, when u play suicide tactics like that it can happen.
Bad day at the office.
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05 Oct 2015 00:32:30
Left back is his best place dags.
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05 Oct 2015 00:48:56
Derby,
On team bus?
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05 Oct 2015 00:54:14
There's a lot of discord with Rooney back on your site mate, what do you make of him has he lost it? Your perfectly correct about Rooney picking up caz but all in all you can't play young at left back against a team that can half play mate.. Good player no full back
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05 Oct 2015 00:59:45
Ctr I meant darmian depay swinestieger blind, the other defender can't remembe his name, left back i think van gaals signings on trial. They have a bit to prove.
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05 Oct 2015 01:12:32
Ctr that player, rojo. Old age.
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05 Oct 2015 08:06:42
Again no mate, rojo is a squad player so no problem there, depay is young and will get time I'm sure and will flourish with that. Darmian has been a really good buy he had a bit of a time against Sanchez granted but most would if left disgustingly exposed like he was.
Bastian has been great, a real leader and has added that experience we lacked.
Sunday we just got our tactics wrong no one player is to blame for that, lvg will have to take that one.
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05 Oct 2015 13:16:01
Ok mate you know your team better than the likes of me. i'm sure you are right.
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06 Oct 2015 08:58:00
I think we are going over the top here a bit, CTR did mention a few days a back some of the same signings who would make the arsenal squad. my question is do you still think so? Let me repeat the names if i remember; Darmian, Shaw, and someone others.
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04 Oct 2015 23:43:55
Right i'm going to get something else off my chest. Today ozil scored, worked back tackled, even headed a ball, I don't want anyone on here saying he is in the team for his passing. He showed today he can work and close down, I don't expect anything less from now on.
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04 Oct 2015 23:54:47
You all know, in not a huge Ozilite.
But, agree. Today he was superb.
All round performance and totally agree, this is the standard I expect, not every game, but certainly more often than he has produced in the past.
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05 Oct 2015 00:06:13
You feeling alright Steve
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05 Oct 2015 01:03:21
Is that too positive for me grow.
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05 Oct 2015 02:00:15
To be fair he has done this plenty of other times but it goes unnoticed. Not saying it's every week but more often than he's given credit for.
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05 Oct 2015 08:11:57
Plus I'd like to see Le Coq do more flicks and assists Cech score more goals and Kos make more runs outwide to provide those 50/50 crosses so Santi can challenge the opposition keeper like Duncan Ferguson used to, of and Sanchez needs to be more alert when we lose the ball in the opponent's box and get behind the defence to play sweeper more if he's ever going to one of the games greats. But apart from that I think yesterday went okish Steve :-)
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04 Oct 2015 23:41:50
Anybody on here named Philip?
I found your screwdriver.
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04 Oct 2015 23:46:04
I know his brother allen.
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05 Oct 2015 00:06:37
He left his keys at my house Steve
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04 Oct 2015 22:25:25
When asked why he walked away from Sunderland, Advocaat said, "Somebody poured lemonade on me and it just snowballed from there".
(Think about it).
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{Ed025's Note - you will be telling us next that rodgers was framed by a rabbit dags.. :)
04 Oct 2015 22:34:40
Damn you Ed,
You just nicked my next joke :-)
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{Ed025's Note - you have to get up very early to beat me in a joke about liverpool dags.. :)
04 Oct 2015 22:38:38
woeful :)
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04 Oct 2015 23:15:29
Very true Ed
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04 Oct 2015 23:21:50
Scouser goes in to HMV and asks 'do you have anything by the doors' 'yes we have cctv and two security guards now piss off'
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{Ed025's Note - good stuff that growbun..
04 Oct 2015 23:22:55
Why does the Mersey run through Liverpool ....... So it doesn't get mugged....
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{Ed025's Note - hey...we have had a bad press you know growbun, we are all lovely people really mate.. :)
04 Oct 2015 23:31:47
Ed I love the scousers unique wholesome bunch great crack and a barrel of laughs
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{Ed025's Note - thats nice growbun, we should all get together...and pick on the mancs.. :)
04 Oct 2015 23:45:46
Liverpool have just signed a Japanese and an Italian player.
A Liverpool spokesman said, "They will fit in very well".
Nikamotor and Robatelli start training tomorrow.
(Sorry Ed, lol).
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04 Oct 2015 23:50:28
Ed I was born in North Yorkshire (gods country) and I now live in Dorset. I love both the scousers and the Mancs humor. Honestly the northern people's charisma and wit is something I miss so much down here. Northern people are on a completely different wave length .. Or it just feels so familiar when I'm so far from home
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{Ed025's Note - i like the yorkies mate...tight as ducks arses..but nice people.. :)
04 Oct 2015 23:51:08
Love it dags.. Magic
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05 Oct 2015 00:02:21
Dags I've heard they are signing a half italian and half chinese, nickatelli.
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05 Oct 2015 00:09:46
I went for a kebab the other day and it cost me a tenner.... A f**king tenner our lass was laughing I was fuming 2.50 where I come from
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05 Oct 2015 00:18:48
Sighs at Steve and rolls eyes, lol.
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05 Oct 2015 00:51:24
I bought a kebab and it started singing to me.
It was a Madonna kebab.
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05 Oct 2015 00:55:29
Leave him alone dags!! He's fuming we won today😳
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04 Oct 2015 22:21:17
Excellent performance today.
Fight and passion from the start. What we all want to see. On top of that great football too.
I'm still Wenger out. One result doesn't change that.Too many false dawns. If they keep putting that effort in I'll be happier.
Real effort and class today. Well done u gooners!
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04 Oct 2015 22:42:00
I think today the players Arsene and this page earned a break from the in out shake it all about debate mate.
Its been a super fantastic brilliant day let's not spoil it.
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04 Oct 2015 22:17:28
Bambam has posted (and taken some stick) that it wouldn't be apocalyptic if we got knocked out of CL, so we could concentrate all our efforts on Prem League.
Agree?
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04 Oct 2015 22:28:22
Mate what bambam says isn't an opinion it's pure logic! If we didn't have a competition that we have no chance of winning anyway in our way we would do far better in the EPL. But that been said I love the champs leauge and hope we stay in it for better or for worse
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04 Oct 2015 22:37:27
The realistic few would agree those still dreaming will think we can get to the last four and finish 3rd or 4th and mark that as success, me, its a tall order in the CL now given who our next two games are against, so cut your losses and give the PL a real go. Next season might not see Chelsea be so awful. I have to agree with T Henry on this .
We will not win the CL that is a given , as for the PL we have a healthy points lead over Chelsea ( which we shouldn't surrender ) keep our 'key' players free of fatigue and injury and the PL could still be in touching distance in April.
I did see a post earlier say " let's show we mean business in the CL"??? Really, and what is so special about this season.? Just a question seeing as our squad has got older in age and the treatment table is as busy as ever
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04 Oct 2015 22:37:33
Agree Growbun,
I think CL is still a bridge too far, especially when stepping into the ring with the likes of Barca, Bayern and RM.
Plus, we have given ourselves a mountain to climb in group stages.
If we win the league our woeful CL campaign will be a distant memory.
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04 Oct 2015 23:24:04
Every one knows my opinion on the team and wenger. But if going out of the champs league make us more powerful in the league, i'm with you guys. Everything you've said is correct, but a few more performances like today and everyone's opinions could be changed and we can go a good distance even in the champs league.
As i said earlier, whether we are in the champs league or not, if we don't become more professional in our approach and produce more top performances like today neither will matter. In or out we have to be consistent and resilute in our approach to all games, like today and not one off blasts.
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04 Oct 2015 23:44:45
It's all true but let's not wish for it! As a fan you have to have the same mentality that you want from your team and that is to win every game. Now I think we can take 3/4 points from Bayern and 6 off olypiakoswhatevertheyarecalled and Zagreb and that should see us through. But I wouldn't fancy us to lift the trophy?
So now we can look at the team and to win the champions league who needs to be replaced? To answer that question you would have to say at least half the team so the players that would stay are... Cech, Sanchez who else guys help me... Would Ozil stay? Ramsey? Kos perhaps? Walcott maybe? I don't know! I do know that on there day they could beat any team.. How do you make it their day more often?
Hopefully we can take some much needed steam from this game and go on a run from now until May we know that we can do it so let's do it coyg
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04 Oct 2015 23:48:49
Agree Steve,
Call me defeatist but I think we have shot ourselves in the foot, CL wise.
2 defeats in 2 games?
Unacceptable.
But, if we beat Bayern at home than I will possibly/probably be singing from a different hymn book.
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05 Oct 2015 00:24:20
Dags if we beat Bayern in one of those two games it has to be said that we could progress by beating the other two teams in the last two matches . 9 points is seen as respectable in a he CL. My hunch is that we will get through for better or worse
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05 Oct 2015 00:53:16
It's a tall order Growbun.
Bayern know if they beat us they will pretty much qualify after 3 games.
Massive match for both teams mate.
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04 Oct 2015 22:09:11
Yes we were brilliant today, though after the euphoria died it left me thinking without the almost criminal complacency we showed in the champions league we could and should be in 2nd in both league's
JPSAGOONER
Good point .......
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04 Oct 2015 19:38:43
Superb performance today, best game for me from ozil and striker Walcott so far. Sant, coq, cech, monrealall perfomed to a high standard. The legend is just being a legend.
Even wenger got his tactics spot on. can't fault the way we went about our job. The only negative if it is a negative, is we have been here before, bayern, man citeh and other top performances and never continued. To keep at the level like this for a sustained period, enabling you to win things is the hardest thing and we haven't been able too.
You shouldn't have to have crisis talks after a poor performance to spur you on to a game like this. It is in your dna. Until it is in our dna we can't be considered serious title contenders. We did at least expose man u though, they were awful.
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04 Oct 2015 19:47:15
It takes a special type of person to focus over half his post on negatives after a game like that.
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04 Oct 2015 20:00:30
Totally disagree with the last bit Steve sorry mate but I've not seen us play like that for year's and years against a top side, the first 20 minutes equaled anything I've ever witnessed from any Arsenal team in my 40 odd years of support.
I'm not getting carried away I know exactly what might happen after the break but today for we were at our absolute best for over a dacade totally awesome for 20 minutes then totally professional for the next 70 with the game in the bag and only ours to lose. No sign of naivety from players or manager today brilliant.
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04 Oct 2015 20:03:25
Totally agree.
I did post pre match we would lose 1-2 but when I saw Carrick and Scweinsteiger starting and Schneiderlin on bench, I thought it was Christmas.
Can't believe LVG didn't put Schneider on Cazorla from the off.
Amazing.
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04 Oct 2015 20:05:17
Ubi instead of being a smartie, tell me i'm wrong. By the way i put "" maybe negative " but just for you, i'll change it to observation.
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04 Oct 2015 20:27:35
Ubistonk,
You do realise that Steve is actually Craig Revel horwood don't you?
Never pleased, always finds something to moan about.
But, love him to bits.
My fav poster.
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04 Oct 2015 20:27:00
Ok, you're wrong Steve.
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04 Oct 2015 20:38:51
That made me lol Dags
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04 Oct 2015 20:40:56
Best game iv seen ozil play for us he was excellent. Ever
If manu pair Carrick and sweiney again theyv lost the plot. zero legs.
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04 Oct 2015 20:41:37
Yes we were brilliant today, though after the euphoria died it left me thinking without the almost criminal complacency we showed in the champions league we could and should be in 2nd in both league's
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04 Oct 2015 20:43:35
Dags you know me I have to put my " observation " in there. Gunner the last bit, i'm with you, I didn't think that we won because man u were awful. We made them look awful.
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04 Oct 2015 20:47:07
Gunner i'm going to trump you. The first 20 minutes were the best I've seen ever. And the last 70 were in some way just as good.
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04 Oct 2015 20:56:22
Steve I make that top trumps mate, I really can't remember enjoying a game so much since I don't know when, yes I moan when we're naïve its horrible to see but today I was at it for 90 minutes living and loving every little bit of it.
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{Ed025's Note - oh how fickle supporters can be G62, derby last week wanted arsene the board and most players out the door, today they are better than sliced bread, mind you every clubs the same mate..
04 Oct 2015 21:00:52
Lol Steve,
You should morph a PIC of Craig Revel Horwood and Jack Dee and have it as your avatar :-(
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04 Oct 2015 21:29:56
Ed,
I think if you looked up 'fickle' in a dictionary, i'm sure it would say 'football supporter'.
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04 Oct 2015 21:32:30
Your so right Ed mate :-) I know I personally let my disappointment get the better of me sometimes to much so but anyone who didn't enjoy today seriously needs to give up :-) total class on grass and a thing of beauty to be hold, if was against Sunderland I'd be thinking if only it was utd, and today it really was :-) :-) :-)
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04 Oct 2015 21:50:12
I was thinking of changing my avatar dags anyway. To les dawson.
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04 Oct 2015 22:06:11
Lol Steve, you are fine the way you are mate.
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04 Oct 2015 22:30:12
Try les Dennis instead Steve 😘
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05 Oct 2015 00:36:48
Eds they played well. But my view stays. I don't think we will lift the title with arsene again. Although I really hope they do
Do I like the American owner no. With the money we have. Stadium. Ticket sales the lot we could be like Bayern Munich. A power house. But we clip our wings for some reason. Remember we moved stadium to compete.
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{Ed025's Note - lying second and after a great performance like that i expected a lot more positivity from you derby..
04 Oct 2015 19:38:01
Wow, well where do I start?
Your lads done well today, I see Cazorla getting a lot praise today, he was good but for me Ramsey was excellent. Him and Bellerin really caught Ashley Young out.
For 30 mins we couldn't hold the ball at all and our full backs where left so exposed it was criminal, especially when its Sanchez exposing them, I've said before he's the best player in the league and today he showed that.
Honestly after 30 mins I was looking at damage limitation lol.
Credit to the lads they didn't totally capitulate and lose there sh**.
Again congratulations lads, best team on the day won that's for sure!
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04 Oct 2015 19:55:38
Top boy Chris.
I posted similar on your page, lol.
You get a lot of stick on here (deservedly so lol), but you always hold your hands up.
Total respect.
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04 Oct 2015 19:55:43
It was nice CTR because we usually crumble against you boys regardless of current form. To be fair not many teams could have contained us in the first 20 mins.
I think it's a bad day all round when Liverpool might actually get a decent manager lol
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04 Oct 2015 20:05:56
Respect to you for coming on here and posting that CTR. Now, can you leave us all in peace to resume our in-fighting! Only joking mate you are always welcome on here.
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04 Oct 2015 20:09:14
Im afraid your team was not at the races today ctr.. Do you think it was a one off or do you think its going to be a sign of things this season.
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04 Oct 2015 20:25:04
We were very good today and most teams would have took a spanking to that performance.
But CTR as accountable as ever top guy fair play
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04 Oct 2015 20:28:29
Lol number 14.
Steve, hopefully the latter mate.
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04 Oct 2015 20:47:37
Was surrounded by a lot of utd fans. Only two arsenal fans. After 30mins it was all over and we all had a nice chat. Very strange.
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04 Oct 2015 20:55:41
United fans ain't daft they know they have a lot of improving to do same as we do. But this league could be here for the taking and with the faltering start from the big top 4 it really could be anyone's leauge. Now to put the so called smaller teams to the sword and beat the big boys at home and then finally we might be onto something
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04 Oct 2015 21:13:17
CTR top man!
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04 Oct 2015 21:17:16
Top man Chris total respect gezza.
Derby a similar thing happened to me and a mate many moons ago at a semi final at villa park, we ended up in a pub full of utd fans just outside the ground a couple of hours before kick off and being young and stupid decide to stay with Arsenal scarf's on full show and after a few pints try and out sing them, 2 v what seemed like hundreds :-) it was great we had some great banter over several more pints and even walked down to the game together and shook hands before we went down to the Arsenal end for the match.
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04 Oct 2015 21:17:44
Ctr....your a gentleman for coming over ere n congratulating us :) good on you lad 👍
Arsenal blew my mind in that first 30 mins n for the rest of the game wer very professional, it's about time we actually beat a top team comfortably (no dig) it's been a long time coming
Till next time , good luck for the rest of the season buddy
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04 Oct 2015 21:30:49
Hope you are having fun in Africa Derby.
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04 Oct 2015 22:36:35
Yes , it was very strange Derby how they never figured out you are a Man City fan!
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04 Oct 2015 19:33:45
Guys it wasn't mentioned but hasn't cech broke the record for clean sheets! Last time I checked before the Chelsea game he was tied with David James . Why hadn't anyone mentioned it??
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04 Oct 2015 19:44:16
No I don't think so mate because according to Cech himself he was two short going into the Chelsea game.
But even if he had done it today everyone forgetting about it could be forgiven because the whole country is in shock.
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04 Oct 2015 20:03:17
Just looked on wiki and he was tied with David James with 170 clean sheets and it hasn't been updated for a while so I think he broke it today 🙏🏻😀
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04 Oct 2015 18:56:46
Brendon Rogers sacked (everyone is crying except liverpool fans😅😅)
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04 Oct 2015 19:34:49
I said few weeks back klopp is about to break his holiday.
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04 Oct 2015 18:51:54
his is why I get so hacked off with us at times.
We were garbage in the week yet in the first 20-25 minutes today we would have hammered anyone and I mean anyone .
Breath taking passing it was stunning to watch .
Ozil brilliant , Walcott brilliant , Sanchez and Santi on another planet . Ramsey was also superb , Per and Gabs looked very sharp.
What a save from PC also late in the first half.
Not one negative from today AT ALL.
No injuries during the International break please and then 3 points at Watford.
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04 Oct 2015 19:13:50
Cech was superb in a game where he didn't have to do loads but everything he did was top notch, not dissing Ospina but Petr catches or palms well clear of danger, Ospina always had to make double or even triple saves because of his weak stops.
Don't get me wrong if Cech is injured Ospina is a,fine reserve keeper to have just never a premier league winning one over 38 games.
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04 Oct 2015 19:33:55
No negatives Ban? We should have had 5 at the very least. 3-0 flattered United, I'm absolutely gutted 😝
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04 Oct 2015 20:49:03
Banbury agree, we have actually a nice looking run of fixtures after Watford.
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04 Oct 2015 18:50:16
London how is that a moan bloody hell , its being practical.......silly boy
Red we ain't winning the champions league , I've said for years the CL is a distraction for us, win what is possible............or more realistic ........the PL.
Even with the great Henry and co we couldn't win the CL, mean business , not a chance.
Arsenal were stunning today , pure brilliance, let's get that straight, but with Chelsea now so far behind , we need all the help possible to cling onto M City . Trust me Europe will hinder us.
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04 Oct 2015 19:28:45
I agree Banbury
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04 Oct 2015 19:56:25
If you thought it could help us win the league then I could see your point (or should I say Carraghers point). But as you have already ruled out absolutely any possibility of us winning the league, I'm rather confused as to why you would then want us to get knocked out of the champions league.
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04 Oct 2015 20:51:41
I think the point is, we have uaually played more consistent football in the past once we were knocked out of cl. It could be a blessing if we didn't go through.
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04 Oct 2015 18:41:08
Have always been a Giroud up front and Walcott right wing kind of guy.
But, credit where its due, we are so much more fluent and penetrative with Theo up top.
Will hold my hands up and say it, Theo should be our regular striker.
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04 Oct 2015 18:52:45
I agree , Theo has been excellent , Giroud will have to look on from the bench
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04 Oct 2015 18:50:02
Mate he was absolutely brilliant today the best I've ever ever seen from him, he isn't and will never be Roben but up top just how good he could be we need to find out over the rest of this season, sorry Olly but its for the good of Arsenal that Theo gets his chance between now and May.
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04 Oct 2015 19:27:42
Theo was very good today, his off the ball pressing was relentless! The first half was impressive but I was equally impressed how calm in defending we were in the 2nd half
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04 Oct 2015 19:29:58
I did say in pre-season that we didn't need a striker because Theo would step up to the plate. Now I know he's got a long way to go to prove me right on that, he's got to do it over a season. But let's all just hope he can keep playing like this and get behind him. He could be a massive weapon for us this year.
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04 Oct 2015 18:34:56
Fantastic
Utterly unbelievable
Why oh why can't we be consistant, if we played like that every game we would walk the prem
Love you Arsenal xx
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04 Oct 2015 18:26:43
Carragher and Henry both agree that Arsenal need to go out of the CL in order to have a great shot at winning the PL,.
Couldnt agree more
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04 Oct 2015 18:39:35
I never pull for the team to lose or draw, I would like them to go as far as they can in every competition.
Lets get a win at home and a draw away at Bayern and show people we mean the business this year!
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04 Oct 2015 18:34:29
Yep it makes sense. Just hard to swallow
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04 Oct 2015 18:36:26
Moan number 1 in already..
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04 Oct 2015 18:42:52
Yep. The first team will benefit from the rest whilst the kids will gain valuable European experience in the Europa. No Ospina/Cech debate either.
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04 Oct 2015 18:25:49
A bit miffed after the game. Been over the United site before the game and said I would pop on after the game regardless. I won't hide we get CTR and badger over here great posters in my opinion and very welcome so I thought I would go over there and share the love.
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04 Oct 2015 18:07:39
Obviously completely blown away by that and everyone but I thought Theo although not mom showed some really fantastic signs of being a really big player up top.
At times he reminded me of Henry at others very much like Sanchez and on one occasion when he attempted a very clever turn with arms spread wide just for a millisecond he looked like Dennis Bergkamp, I can pay him no bigger compliment by far his best ever performance for Arsenal IMO.
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04 Oct 2015 16:47:23
Possibly the best 45 mins of football I've seen since Highbury, I don't get how Jekyll and Hyde we are from one game to another
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{Ed025's Note - complaints are not allowed after that 1404..
04 Oct 2015 16:54:09
Complete and utter lesson.
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04 Oct 2015 16:55:28
Absolutely phenomenal! Alexis is a beast, Ozil lovely, Theo great passing, coquelin outstanding I can't say enough. Oh Ramsey should have scored lol
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04 Oct 2015 16:57:31
I can't remember ever enjoying watching Arsenal more, the first 15 minutes totally unbelievably breathtakingly brilliant.
So so impressed pleased and quite emotional.
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04 Oct 2015 17:51:27
Give Sanchez a new deal now. What a guy
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04 Oct 2015 18:37:23
Derby,
There's a 5 year/140,000 per week contract sitting on the table waiting for Sanchez to put pen to paper.
Please God he signs it.
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04 Oct 2015 19:36:07
What does he earn now dags I can't remember? If hazard is on 200k his agent surely will ask for that. Anyway he's worth what ever he gets. Love him
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04 Oct 2015 15:32:53
Lets get behind Wenger and the team today. A win against United will put us in a strong position for a Premiership challenge. I am fed up of all the anti-Wemger nonsense. He has won us two consecutive FA Cups and has brought the likes of Ozil, Sanzchez and Cech to the club.
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04 Oct 2015 15:55:17
Just got to the bar. Huge game. Blind won't fancy playing against Walcott. Let's get blind turning and running after Theo.
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04 Oct 2015 15:57:45
Good post RG69
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04 Oct 2015 14:27:20
Managed to get a ticket for today's game! Only go roughly once or twice a season. But if it helps my first Arsenal game I went too was 2001 worthington cup. Arsenal 4 Manchester United 0. Fingers crossed ;)
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04 Oct 2015 15:47:38
Enjoy D I hope the journey home is a very enjoyable one, look forward to seeing you on Arsenal fan TV tomorrow.
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04 Oct 2015 13:29:35
Good luck to Ed25's Blues. They have been a good watch this season.
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{Ed025's Note - cheers UG...we might need it today mate with that inexperienced defence..
04 Oct 2015 14:11:13
Mignolet 0-0 Everton so far
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04 Oct 2015 12:50:43
Right regardless of how the so called top four have started I feel that the rest of the teams in the league have more savy than ever.
We don't have the best record against United but I believe our best 11 will beat there best 11 if both teams turn up and play. The problem is that we bottle it more often than not
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04 Oct 2015 13:06:07
For me losing to utd is always the lowest point of the season for me it hurts more than losing to spurs, with Le Coq fit I don't expect anything like past humiliations to happen today but without Kos I find it difficult to see a clean sheet.
People talk about squad strength well utd came to us and beat us last season with probably the most patched up defence I've ever seen but if we don't have both Kos and Le Coq playing I think we always look very vulnerable in big games.
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04 Oct 2015 13:43:13
I find it an absolute disgrace that we haven't put more distance between us and United over the past three years. Come next year United will be serious contenders again! We should have been a force but hey ho the trails and tribulations of an Arsenal fan. But seriously if we go at them close them down and play fast we could hurt them today, remember United will come and play so that should suit us .
My favourite game of the season always has been
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04 Oct 2015 14:27:31
Likewise 62 it hurts me more losing to UTD than it does Spuds
What I will say about the distance thing is that can only happen if you continue to build......but I won't go there.
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04 Oct 2015 11:44:21
If we finished 10-15 points clear of Manu last season then I take your point but the fact is we only finished 5 points above them and beat them how many times?
I would say the two sides are quite even more so now SAF has gone
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04 Oct 2015 12:20:45
They were in chaos after Fergie while we were finally free from the restraints of the stadium, finally after years of continually being beaten and far to often humiliated by utd looked to be ending but in little more than a year of LVG utd once again come to the Emerirates as favourites.
That says more about us than them
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04 Oct 2015 12:59:20
Man U are not favourites today gunner
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04 Oct 2015 13:09:06
Apologies Ubi I haven't checked the odds I was just going on what I've read and listened to in the last few days building up to the game.
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04 Oct 2015 13:20:00
Arsenal are odds on with some. You can get 3 to 1 on Man U. Don't think about throwing your money away though.
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04 Oct 2015 13:46:13
No chance of that Ubi I might be pessimistic and struggling to see how we're ever going to be more than also rans for the big prizes but betting against Arsenal has never crossed my mind ever, 3-1 is an excellent price though and if it wasn't against us I've be tempted to have £10 on that to cover £20 bet on a Everton 4 1 utd 1 2 double.
But you can't or shouldn't ever get against up your own team.
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04 Oct 2015 14:32:47
I always used to chuck a ten spot on United so in some ways it's win win then
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04 Oct 2015 09:20:06
Just reading the debate about a strong league etc etc
I think it looks that way because the big boys have all started so poorly. Where are the foxes in the league? and we did what against them?
Look what Bournemouth did at Upton Park , there is no consistency at the moment .
M City showed yesterday how good they can be.
At the end of the season the top four will be two clubs from Manchester and Two from London.
I take your point Steve , we have one win at OT in the FA Cup and we are suddenly a better team than Man U.
Having a better squad UBI means naff all mate , 70% of the season half of our squad are on the treatment table.
As I have said if we had our first choice 14-15 players available every week by god we would take some stopping. Reality is we never have . And over the last x number of seasons we have struggled against Man U.
Lets hope today is different
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04 Oct 2015 09:40:00
Sure, but let's not forget we finished above them last year. What better measure is there than that? Still think we'll stuff em today. COYG!
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04 Oct 2015 09:53:23
Having the best squad is obviously always an advantage but not a guarantee of anything, Real with Beckham Zidan Ronaldo etc was on paper the best squad ever but did very little while utd under Fergie had some very very average players playing week in week out and dominated the premier league, its not always what you've got but how you use it that matters.
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04 Oct 2015 10:19:55
That and the fact that u don't have a better squad massively than us if at all.
Ubi u finished a few points above United last year mate. Nothing really to shout about.
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04 Oct 2015 10:40:17
Last season was LVG 1st season and he inherited a team that finished 8th the season before, Arsene had been at Arsenal 18 years at the time so I should hope we did finish above them last season.
We had a massive head start on them when LVG arrived the only question is have they overtaken us within 14 months?
Today won't prove that one way or the other but the season will.
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04 Oct 2015 10:54:04
I wasn't shouting mate.
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04 Oct 2015 11:23:45
Ok. Glad to see u don't disagree though.
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04 Oct 2015 08:39:28
I hope Theo does the business today, he has proved himself worthy of the CF roll in open games where teams attack us with a high line but there is still a question mark over him doing it in a tight game where teams are tighter or park the bus.
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04 Oct 2015 08:50:45
Good post Gooner62.
Spot on.
Bit of a dilemma though because he is still our best RW.
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04 Oct 2015 10:01:23
He needs a 10 game consecutive run to see what he can do against all comers then we can't see once and for all if he can do it down the middle, on the wing he's either the invisible man or very good but at 26 he's still not a proven top player outwide.
Its middle or bust for me with Theo
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04 Oct 2015 00:21:56
Right i'm going to stick my neck out and say we won't, can't keep a clean sheet against man united. Not because man u are that great but because we can't defend, and especially in these types of games. I will even predict we will let in more than 1, but i can't predict what will happen at the other end, we could fail to score or we may score 2 or 3, but we won't keep a clean sheet.
My point being not being secure at the back leaves us open to the chance of letting in the first goal and when that happen often, it creates uncertainty and often leads to us getting beat. It will be another game watching from behind the pillow waiting for the usual. i'm afraid my confidence in wenger and the team is shot. But i will still be shouting for the win.
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04 Oct 2015 00:32:35
Martial v Mertesacker?
Hmmm, no comment.
1-2 Utd.
Negative Dags.
Sorry.
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04 Oct 2015 01:45:26
Don't underestimate Per and the back 4 plus Cech.
He's been up against more experience and quicker players. We just need to understand the threat and be organised. Hopefully Per won't be left with a sprint against the young man!
Home win :)
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04 Oct 2015 09:34:00
To be fair Mertesacker does usually get the timing of his tackles spot on when he can get close enough to make a tackle.
Everyone knows he's slow but he's also not great in the Air either because although he may be 7ft or whatever that's it he simply can't get off the ground to jump so the Ave player of say 5ft 10 can beat him there too, then there's his ball watching once it's gone past him he's a spectator without a thought for getting back in the game.
But apart from those few minor details he's fantastic if you forget what he's best known for of all.
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04 Oct 2015 11:09:47
62 - think you are a bit tough on BFG. He has pedigree and you can clearly see the impact of him on the back 4 compared to when TV5 was the "leader."
If he is part of the correct back 4 - he is great. Just like you wouldn't play Adams with another slow centre half. Not comparing the two, just drawing parallels. No difference than the right back working well with the right sided midfielder or the left back so that we are not exposed. Football is about partnerships not just individuals.
We have plenty pace to cover him and I am sure enough experience in Per's backlocker. I remember everyone being concerned about pace against Per before but pretty sure he dealt with it on the world stage and the EPL stage.
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04 Oct 2015 11:46:30
Toure was brilliant next to Sol Campbell SY but without him and next to Gallas I thought he looked weak a lot of the time.
Kos next to Mertesacker is OK in most games but without Kos he takes a lot of covering for, Gab Kos is most people's 1st choice for good reason.
Mertesacker is OK if your team is set up where he rarely gets exposed one on one.
He has 100 caps for Germany and was in the squad that won the world cup which no body can argue about but he still slow both physically and mentally was seen against Olypiakos most recently in the 3rd goal ( there's been so many of those), he just doesn't react until its too late.
There's been some brilliant CBs without great pace but they all read the game well so their head made up for their legs but that just isn't Mertesacker, hopefully we won't see it today but I wouldn't be surprised if we do.
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