Arsenal Banter Archive September 04 2016

04 Sep 2016 17:20:27
G62,
Man City
Arsenal
Chelsea
Man utd.

But, I hope I'm wrong :-)

04 Sep 2016 22:37:26
Ha ha. Optimistic is a gross understatement.

04 Sep 2016 22:58:05
Dags I'm very flattered but I feel my days of single handedly finishing above city Arsenal Chelsea and utd are in the past mate, but really pleased your routing for me all the same mate :-)

04 Sep 2016 23:31:46
Arsenal
City
Utd
Chelsea
Spurs
Liverpool

:)

05 Sep 2016 08:05:30
Lol G62,

That was brilliant :-)

05 Sep 2016 16:59:23
Hoping arsenal
Chelsea
City
United.

04 Sep 2016 17:08:20
England Live chat on the current England v Slovakia game if you're interested

04 Sep 2016 12:59:52
Top 4 and quarter finals of Champions League. Successful season or not?

04 Sep 2016 13:20:23
I'm sure Leicester fans would accept that as a very successful season but man city fans not so much so :-)

04 Sep 2016 15:31:11
For me, the position is only partially relevant.

I want to see 100% effort from the team, the players working together and for each other, and either Wenger being brutal and only selecting on performance, or keep starting a player that isn't performing great only for them to repay that faith with a big season.

I also want to see Wenger do something different tactically when our normal formation isn't working.

If that happens, but we're just beaten by better teams, I'd be happy with 4th. I would like more of course. If we just scrape through by luck, or play atrocious football and lots of players don't give their all, I won't be happy with it.

I'd even play all youth and fringe players in the domestic cups so we can focus on league and champs league.

04 Sep 2016 17:09:08
Good question.

For me, it's a no.

As a business model, you should progress every season.

4th (although 2nd last season) , is pretty much 'our spot'every season.

It's ok as a bare minimum, but as a 'business' you should always aim to progress.

We have spent good money in the summer and bought some good players, as well released players who should have gone 2 year's ago.

For me, it has to be 1st.

05 Sep 2016 00:46:08
I think this season success should be judged by whether or not the team does enough to get Özil and Sanchez sign new contracts imo. It would show we're still attractive to the big boys. If not we lose two *world class* players who could be very difficult to replace.

04 Sep 2016 07:12:55
G62 i agree with you to a certain extent, but it's been proven that if the media can repeat a falsehood long enough, the people public begin to accept it as fact.

The stats do not lie, I know for a fact that people use stats to belittle Arsène and Arsenal on a regular basis. West Brom were recently praised for keeping their 23rd clean Sheet under Pulis, but we have had 27 in that same period and its the best in the league. But it doesn't fit the negative coverage so it gets ignored by the media and our fans alike.

Raver Mate i Like you but only Harry Kane and maybe Toby Alderweired would Start here.

Cech> Lloris
Koscielny> Vertonghen
Alderweireld >Mustafi
Bellerin> Walker
Monreal> Rose
Xhaka> Dier
Carzola > Dembele
Alexis> Eriksen
Walcott > Lamela
Ozil> Ali
Kane> Giroud

Fuser i hate how criminally underrated Monreal is, he is a great left back and for the last two years has been a pillar of strength for us. Ozil, kos, Alexis and maybe Bellerin would start in any side you mentioned too.

04 Sep 2016 09:01:33
Positive its true that if people say something enough it becomes falsely accepted as fact, captain Kirk never once said ' Been me up Scotty ' but we all think we remember him saying it :-)
Stats? Olly's goal scoring record stats suggest he's an excellent finisher with a 1 in 2 strike rate but if we look at the facts more closely he's anything but a prolific goal scorer, he's extremely wasteful in front of goal which is why most people felt during the summer we needed a top class striker to challenge for the title.
Unfortunately stars are very unreliable indicators of anything more than what people want them to show be it in a positive or negative light, which is why clubs have scouts rather than a computer to find new players with.

04 Sep 2016 10:31:52
Walcott better than Lamela? Christ. Should have put Ramsey there instead.

05 Sep 2016 22:56:53
Sorry CMP, but I seriously just don't rate Monreal. He's decent enough but even though LB has been a problem area for Chelsea over the last few years I still wouldn't take him.
A few corrections to your list:
Cech = Lloris
Dier > Xhaka
Monreal = Rose
Lamela > Walcott.
Cech and Lloris have slightly different areas in which they best each other but overall very similar levels. Monreal is fairly defensively solid but Rose is better offensively. Dier ahead of Xhaka because Dier was one of the best DM's last year and Xhaka hasn't been here long enough imo. And lastly I'd take any of Spuds AM's over Walcott.

City would take Bellerin and possibly one of your CM's. Although with Kompany a bit crocked, you could include Kos.
United: personally I'd put Ozil or Sanchez in for Rooney. Along with Bellerin. Potentially Kos but I like the look of Utd's defence.
Chelsea: Depends on formation and how well our newest signings fit in but definitely take Sanchez. Potentially Bellerin but that would leave Dave at LB. Kos again potentially but I think a partnership of Luiz and Zouma will suit our system. We don't play with a no10 currently so no spot for Ozil.
Who I'd take for Arsenal from:
City: Aguero, KDB/ Sterling for RW. Kompany/ Stones for Mustafi/ Merts/ Gabriel
Utd: Ibrahimovic, Mhkityran for Walcott. Pogba. Shaw. Potentially Bailly for Mustafi. And then probably DDG, simply as I currently rate him as the 2nd best keeper.
Chelsea: Costa, Hazard, Kante, I'd take Dave over Monreal and possibly even Bellerin although that's a tough one. Zouma over Mustafi/ Merts/ Gabriel. Then Courtois and Cech is 50/ 50 on whether you want experience or long term.