05 Apr 2015 19:13:08
Quote from Santi Cazorla
When we defend together we always win, brilliant to hear one of our best attacking players talking about the impotantace of defence and the togetherness of the team.
Everything really is wonderfully different 2015
05 Apr 2015 20:36:43
Lets hope they remember that for the first half of next season as well. Its no good playing well only on the run in.
{Ed025's Note - bit harsh that mate..and change your IP...there is only one G62 fella..
05 Apr 2015 20:49:38
Even I thought it was harsh after writing it - but what the hell.
{Ed025's Note - it was imo mate, but its ok to have different views..
05 Apr 2015 21:33:35
Thanks Ed :-) what's done is done mini me and the future is looking good, we are more mature and adaptable than for a long long time and are truly challenging the best again and that's enough for me. Winning the title is obviously the ultimate but putting in a serious challenge is brilliant.
06 Apr 2015 08:43:56
Sorry g62, ure challenging the best? How?
{Ed025's Note - the best in the league are chelsea chris, and arsenal are their nearest challengers..so whats wrong with that?..
06 Apr 2015 09:44:45
Well Chris finishing top two is a challenge that has been beyond us for a while now and finishing above city even if not above chavs is a massive step forward for us, but listen at me banging on about us what about yourselves and Southampton? What a season you two are having.
I always knew we'd lose that 4th place trophy one day but who'd have thought you might be in a position to pick it up! Amazing, I know much like many teams who over achieve your not pretty on the eye and trying to con the referees to bridge the gap in talent isn't seen by some as right but needs must and Southampton have the same option should they wish to stoop
06 Apr 2015 09:53:30
Hardly a challenge if u finish 8/9 points behind mate, ure just the best of the runners up.
Ed I'm not denying arsenal are up there in terms of ability but the post said g62 was happy that arsenal are now challenging the top clubs, I disagree, arsenal are exactly where they were last season and the 8/9 before really. The league is funny atm, Chelsea have that game against Leicester in hand and when they win that the points gap will be back to about 10 points on arsenal, sorry lads but that's hardly a serious challenge imo.
{Ed025's Note - i think you are doing arsenal a disservice there chris, they have a major chance of finishing second which is an improvement on recent seasons, and G62 said challenging the top clubs mate, that includes city and liverpool (i deliberately left out united) so for me that makes him right..
06 Apr 2015 10:43:32
Ok that's fair enough mate, but top clubs challenge for trophies not places mate.
I'm not getting at arsenal either I will point out, but to just be happy being in the mix for 2nd/3rd/4th is not the actions of a top club wanting to win major honours, sure it's a stepping stone, but u have to push on.
The moment u except mediocrity is when u are going to fail.
Now I'm sure G62 will now tell me they are heading in the right direction, valid comment if not for that being said for the last 9 years. After all arsenal have ONE trophy in TEN years. Sure they may again win the 3rd choice of cups but there must come a time when the fans look around and think "is this really good enough for arsenal fc".
I don't think it is and if next season as I suspect goes the same way as the last few seasons we will be here again after arsenal finally get there arses into gear being told how they are moving in the right direction.
There surely has to come a time when they reach the end of that direction they are saying they are heading?
{Ed025's Note - teams do go through barren times chris, (remember division 2?) and of course the aim is higher and better things, but sometimes it takes time mate..
06 Apr 2015 11:14:42
Chris at the end of the season one team picks up a silver cup the other 19 don't your right mate but being all you can be is as much as any fan can ask of their club and to that ends we are both very much on target.
Us playing beautiful football and you? Well were all have different tastes and ways of doing thing mate :-) I mean some people actually really prefer Turkey ham to fillet steak
06 Apr 2015 11:24:09
No I don't remember that eddy, I'm far to young.
I get what your saying and again I'm not deliberately putting a downer on arsenal. I just think its been this for 10 years. There has to come a time when they finally kick on, and thus far it's a continuous cycle of nearly there.
Top teams don't want to just be considered the next best in the league they want to be the best. Too many arsenal fans imo are just happy with being in the convo for titles.
next season they will go into the league with optimism and hope of success and imo will again fall short.
Cycle continued, bad start followed by a great run that breeds optimisim for the next year. Take Chelsea for example, they wernt happy with 3rd went out and done what was necessary to be the best this year, I just don't see that in arsenal. But for some reason the fans are happy with that each year.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think they are happy chris, but its hard to keep up with the chelsea and citys of this world with their spending power..
06 Apr 2015 11:34:47
Yes and when the record books come out u will be nowhere on them for the last ten years g62, but at least u can tell your grandchildren u played the best football.
I'm not saying u ain't a top club and I love the fact u have principles mate but under Graham u won a title or 2 and I'm sure u would happily take that football for a year if it ment a title?
Yes we have put in some dour performances this season but come may we might end up with exactly the same as u mate with a genuine hope that we will get back to the top. But in ten years our fans will not look back and say what a successful time that was.
hate us or hate us more, United strive to be the best and will not accept 2nd best, A trait I think arsenal have lacked for the last 10 years and one I only see continuing.
Ask yourself after u win the fa cup if I would of offered u this season how happy would u of been to accept it?
{Ed025's Note - FA cup and second is success in my book chris, not there yet but a good chance mate..
06 Apr 2015 11:40:36
Chris,
The point I'm pretty sure g62 is making is that we have this season turned a corner in our ability as a group to go for things next season on a much more level footing.
We wasted an opportunity in the Champions League to get a round further are still in the FA Cup and still an opportunity to finish 2nd but most importantly we look like a team that can defend and attack in equal measure. That is the reason to believe.
None of that may happen but we are now better equipped at any time in these last 8/9 years to expect a lot lot more next season.
06 Apr 2015 11:52:46
I don't doubt for a second ed a 2nd place and fa cup win for an Everton fan is success :)
Imo arsenal should want and do a lot better.
{Ed025's Note - well that makes me feel a lot better!..thanks for that mate.. :(
06 Apr 2015 12:18:08
I no wot he means dog mate, but I just think u could cut and paste that comment every year buddy.
06 Apr 2015 13:06:36
You could Chris but now we can defend mate, which for me is the big difference and will make the difference in what we challenge for.
06 Apr 2015 14:02:43
Didn't u have one of the best defensive records last year dog?
06 Apr 2015 14:59:17
Not going to lie Chris speaks sense.
{Ed025's Note - chris supports united...so how can he speak sense?.. :)
06 Apr 2015 15:19:02
I come from Cambridge eddy, we are educated well down here :)
{Ed002's Note - Rather than "well educated" then Chris?}
06 Apr 2015 15:31:31
lol ed, prob should of read as educated as a well.
06 Apr 2015 15:34:44
I nearly was going to give ed25 the credit for spotting that to batman, I should of known better :)
I would of got away with to if it wasn't for u :)
06 Apr 2015 16:46:38
Chris even as a United fan surely you can see this is a totally different team defensively?
06 Apr 2015 17:55:08
Yes mate I can see, problem is I also see the same team that went on amazing run 2 seasons ago to clinch 4th from under spurs and bales noses.
06 Apr 2015 23:43:53
Hmmm...except this team has this minor additions of Ozil and Sanchez....