Arsenal Banter Archive December 05 2014

05 Dec 2014 20:45:55
With shawcross saying stoke fans don't like arsenal, I would like to know why the help not? When did we ever break any of their legs?

05 Dec 2014 21:43:46
Tbh mate who cares about Stoke or there fans.

05 Dec 2014 21:48:24
I wouldn't pay much attention mate.

Just a bit of 'pre-match winding up'.

I'm not really bothered, its just the hypocrisy! :p

Stoke fans don't like anyone who plays football!

Sooner they go down the better

06 Dec 2014 10:45:36
Do any of us like Stoke? I don't

Apparently Ramsey somehow refused an apology from Shawcross and wouldn't let him visit in hospital, while Shawcross claims to have been devastated by almost ending Ramsey's career. Ramsey is always the player they boo the most. However, I remember them doing that when he was being stretchered off with his ankle basically hanging off. there were even some fans flying the v's at him. On top of that, I don't see why he is under any obligation to forgive him when his decimated ankle is much worse than Shawcross' hurt feelings.

All that aside, we are a proud club and should be encouraged to get a result when other fans give us stick for no reason.

As Mr Durham has been labelled.

You're all "STOKEISTS"

I've invited Ryan Shawcross over for xmas dinner, forgive and forget I say!

05 Dec 2014 13:35:17
Wenger has stated that Sanchez is playing in the 'red zone'. Well it hardly takes a genius to realise that he needs a rest. Perhaps this may wake Wenger up, use his squad and sign sufficient players of quality to enable some degree of rotation. What's the betting that just as Walcott comes back, Sanchez will get injured?
We have Campbell, Podolski & Rosicky, who could all have come in and played.
On Tuesday we must play as many reserves as possible. Belerin, Hayden, Rosicky, Campbell, Podolski, Sanogo & Ganbry should all me played, possibly with a couple more young defenders to make up the numbers.
I can't begin to imagine the state of our defenders come the end of December.

I'd quite like him to start on the bench against stoke, and not be in the squad tuesday. We have more than enough players to give him a rest, and if he gets an injury due to over playing then we are going to be in real trouble.

Might as well get Diaby on the pitch against gala, injury or no injury :P

05 Dec 2014 21:23:40
I think if he was rested before now there'd have been uproar given our form.

We need him tomorrow I think. He won't be near the Gala fixture if we've any sense

05 Dec 2014 10:47:36
Would it be unfair and unreasonable to say to Arsene its got to be top 3 or tat ta at the end of this season?

05 Dec 2014 17:06:32
Top 3 is good, but still unacceptable after the amount of years we've been waiting. I think he should just hand to reigns over to someone else. We're a big club with good finance, squad and facilities which would attract many managers who could do a fantastic job, who's tactics are new and modern not naïve and stubborn like Wengers. He has been absolutely incredible but I think his times up and would love change.

I think giving this seasonto actually show real progress is expected even if its only 3rd its improvement and moving upwards apposed to another stagnating season.
I think top 3 is fair both ways and reason to carry on but another 4th should be the last under Arsene.
A bit of pressure and accountability might be the making of him as anyone who's job is too safe must lose their edge its human nature

05 Dec 2014 21:34:02
If the board don't want him to go, which I don't think will ever happen it's just a pointless discussion tbh until he decides to leave.
I'd like to see him win another League trophy and bow out gracefully for the incoming Pep revolution.

06 Dec 2014 01:33:29
I think that is a fair statement. Top 3 would be seen to represent 'progress'. I'm not convinced it would represent progress, but it would be hard to argue against it.

Howeveer, iif Chelsea, Real, Bayern or City finished 3rd the manager would be gone. If van Gaal finishes 3rd next year I would expect him to be gone unless the circumstances are exceptional. We need more ambition; but that is not going to come under this board and owner.

05 Dec 2014 09:08:50
Cheers ED

Back to normal

05 Dec 2014 08:06:05
Ed025 I have my postie thing back :-) cheers mate, I'm not sure many others will thank you but at least I'm happy about it.
Just goes to show you can't plese everyone all the time but you can make me happy so hey ho where the problem :-)
Thanks mate

{Ed025's Note - no probs mate..

05 Dec 2014 02:45:09
Over the nest two transfer windows I would love to see the following signings:
Clyne, Hummels, Mings, Schneiderlin, Sissoko & Dybala

To create space in the squad and raise some funds in fees & saved wages, sell/release:

Monreal, Arteta, Flamini, Coquelin, Abou Diaby, Rosicky, Miyaichi, Podolski & Campbell.

Or Van Dijk instead of Hummels, if the transfer fee is too high.

Hummels we won't get.

Depending on how serius the Saints are about making top 4 they won't sell Clyne or Schneiderlin to us.

Mings is possible, personally think he's overhyped and over priced but he is our type of signing.

Sissoko is good player, not great but would add depth to our team. Also possible.

Dybala would cost in the region of 30 + million and for me that's a never. Potential to be a top player? Yes. Massive risk? Yes. Could we get better for £30 million? Definitely.

We need just bite the bullet and spend X amount of money on 3 top, top, top players in the postions we struggle in. Then we will be a force. For the price of those you have mentioned we could have Godin, Bender and Bony for instance. I know what I would want.

Hummels - I agree, hence the subsequent Van Dijk suggestion.
Mings - Ideal cover for Gibbs, at the right price. He is English and at 6'3" could cover at centre back.
Clyne & Schneiderlin - If the offer is sufficiently high & the players become unsettled there is always a possibility.
Sissoko - a damsight better than Flamini & Arteta. Will add youth, height & power.
Dybala - I agree, a risk at £30m, worth a gamble at £15m. Reus would be another option.
The overhaul, I suggested would rid us of players that are simply not good enough to challenge for the Premiership & the Champions League. Whilst signing quality replacements.

At some point in time I would like us to sign a defensive midfielder, before the 2020 European championships would he lovely but I do realise these things take time.

{Ed025's Note - i do enjoy a bit of sarcasm G62..

Sorry Ed I couldn't resist :-) its Friday and last working day so I'm in good spirit's

{Ed025's Note - i will let you off this time mate.. :)

Hummels will join manu soonish I think. they will invest heavy again I believe

You get the impression they want the title to be a 3 horse race again Derby?
So do i

This year manu will not win the title or come top 2. but next year they will go for it. will they win it I don't know/ the season after though i'm sure they will be up there.

we need to invest or we will get left behind again

Utd treated Moyes badly we know it they know it, city to Mancini wasn't exactly great either and chavs have treated a host of managers including mourinho very harshly, I'm not saying I agree with this sort of treatment of no patience or time to change things at all type mentality but it has and looks like continuing to be the way of winners, sadly.
I do believen giving a manager time and support can be just as successful but there has to be limits on that time.
No pressure at all has done neither Arsene or Arsenal any favours.
There has to be a middle ground between ruthlessness and total lack of competitiveness

05 Dec 2014 15:36:43
Has anyone actually watched Mings play? Or even heard of him before Wenger mentioned him the other day?

All the names that are mentioned on here and this is the first of Mings

27 Nov 2014 15:41:49
hi ed, can you name any potential targets we will be looking at in jan. thanks


{Ed002's Note - I suspect Arsenal will see if a deal can be done for Petr Cech. Arsenal may look to a CB in - Schar or even Mings, but January is not the best time to be looking to buy and there is stroing interest from elsewhere for both players. In terms of a defensive midfield player, long-term interest from Arsenal and Sevilla in Hamburg's Torgay Arslan remains - and I understand from someone in Germany he is a player much admired by van Gaal. Kramer may well be an option - but Khedira and Schneiderlin are much less likely right now. It will always be difficult in January.}

05 Dec 2014 17:16:07
Ya I did a search on it, mid November seems to be the earliest mention, and it was indeed Robbie Gunner. I think only one other person mentioned him besides yourself ed.

I can just imagine how many people are going to be "in the know" on Mings over the next few weeks after what Wenger said.

He will obviously need time to adjust to the PL ah here comes next seasons excuse/ I mean reason for 4th place