Arsenal Banter Archive February 05 2016

 

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05 Feb 2016 18:52:25
Hi Eds

Can I request a poll? I know he is still under contact but I just want to hear the other fellows fans opinion:

Next season, do the fans want Wenger in, or Wenger out?

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{Ed033's Note - Ok poll is up. See below button


Wenger poll

06 Feb 2016 00:11:26
OK this was a tough one, although I don't understand so much of what he does or doesn't do or think he any longer has what it takes to make us champions, when push comes to shove with just 18 months to go I can't vote WENGER OUT!
If he decided to go a year early of his own free will I would be sad to see him go but on the other hand be very excited about what was now possible with some new ideas.

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06 Feb 2016 00:30:19
Strongly in Wenger's favour at present, but that could change come May.

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06 Feb 2016 07:35:57
Our best option for a replacement has just gone to City and the only 2 other managers I'd have conaidered are starting new projects at Bayern and Liverpool
So firmly Wenger in, we should have made way for Pep though.

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06 Feb 2016 10:01:28
I just hope Arsene spends this summer to leave us in better shape than Fergie left utd in, Cech Kos Mertesacker Monreal Caz and Giroud will all be well into their 30s in 18 months time and we might well be still be waiting for a 29:year old Theo to realise his potential :-) .
Arsene owes it to himself to have a real go in his final season as Arsenal manger but also he owess to the fans and the next manager to strengthen well next summer too.

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06 Feb 2016 10:48:28
It is really a tough one, I've always been wenger in but lately I haven't been pleased with his decisions, and the lack of new ideas. From the first time ever Ibwatched arsenal arsen was in charge and I thought wow it is so meant to be. Had a hug faith in him. But unfortunately I'm losing it now. I voted out and I wasn't expecting my self to do. Club come first under every possible circumstances.
But let's see how the end of this season plans out and hopefully I had a wrong decision.

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06 Feb 2016 10:58:46
Moe you remind me of myself two seasons back when I went from 100% pro Arsene to realising we would never be all we could be under him again, but with only 18 months to go we won't and we shouldn't replace him now but if he decided in the summer enough is enough that might be good for all.
I don't want Arsene's reign to end in protests and booing as we yet again become a team of two half of each season.

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06 Feb 2016 11:33:13
It's a really tough decision. How can you turn your back on a man who has done so much for us? Also can you trust the bunch of clowns who are the board to hire a decent manager who will do better than Wenger on the same budget? However I sadly and narrowly voted out, purely because I think Wenger looks a shadow of what he was 10 years ago. I think the Wenger of 2000 would put out a team and formation that would beat 2016 Wenger every time. Today he is starting to look what he is, an ageing man who is either struggling to, or refusing to keep up with the latest changes in the game. Looking at history and there definitely seems to be a period when a manager runs out of ideas at the same club and perhaps we are now at that period with Arsene. Just at a period when we need him to change his style once more and drive his team on, he seems to be at an age where change proves difficult, which is fair enough as generally in life as people get older they tend to become less prone to change. So as I said, a horrible decision to say out, and I really hope I am 100% wrong at the end of the season when I see Arsene holding the premiership trophy aloft.

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06 Feb 2016 11:51:21
Wenger out for me. No one should stay in charge of any one thing for 19 years. It leads to staleness at best and corruption at worst. Ferguson was a very rare exception and Wenger has for many years shown all the signs of hubris that comes with too much power for too long. Sure he seems a nice man but if he were truly wise he should have known to go 5 years ago. 8-2 could have been one hint.
Why do we need an established replacement? Wenger was not a world beater when he came here and neither was the supposed god of managers, Pep, when he began at Barca. So let's live dangerously and start with someone new.

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06 Feb 2016 11:55:49
Excellent post that Epping mate.
Most accept change is necessary for us to ever be champions again but also don't want to disrespect a our best ever manager.
The best case scenario is for Arsene to hang up his coat zip this May and go out with everyone singing his name and applauding him IMO.

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06 Feb 2016 12:25:48
You summed it perfectly Epping mate at least IMO, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. G62, definitely I don't want Wenger reign to end with boos and protest and I would love it if he finishes on a hi and I'm sure every arsenal fan and Wenger thinking the same way.
But he must find a differnet aproach to certain games from now to the end of career at arsenal.
Next season it going to be damn hard with all the top teams adding more quality and power to thier squad, but for us it will be every summer waiting.

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06 Feb 2016 16:32:39
For me it’s Wenger out. Every dog has it’s day and I just believe we will never take that next step to sign the true world class players we need to become genuine title and European contenders. We have our best chance for years this season to win the league with the turmoil surrounding the other top clubs and yet we are still struggling to keep a consistent run going and take advantage.

Yes Leicester have caught everybody by surprise but we should in the circumstances be leading this league title race. We won’t get a better and chance but the mental frailties and the weak links still present in our squad are still undermining our chances. If we had the mental strength, work rate and togetherness of Leicester combined with our talent we would walking this league this season. These frailties have not been addressed by Wenger for years now and he has to take blame for that.

He is basically too stubborn to change his philosophy to adapt and also far too loyal to underperforming and constantly injured players. He is too nice and too much of a mate to his players he needs to be more ruthless in this department, look how long it took him to release Diaby for example. His stubborn sometimes ignorant mentality of the current situation feeds down to the players and they often play like they have nothing to prove and not prepared for the fight. Yes there are exceptions to that Sanchez for example but I believe that is because he has not yet been tainted by the lethargy that seems to creep into some of the more longer-standing players.

In addition though the board have also got to take their share of the blame they have not put enough pressure on Wenger and allowed him too much power really. They with Wenger have been too willing to extend contracts of underperforming players and paying un-established young players too much too soon giving them less incentive. They have just got to comfortable with the steadiness of Wenger. It kind of like when you get too comfortable in your current job security. You end stuck in a rut up not willing to expand your horizons and skills by testing yourself to take yourself out of the comfort zone.

The harder question is who should replace him and that is part of the problem like I say better the devil you know, the board are too fearful of change.

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05 Feb 2016 22:40:02
Mesut has had a couple of quite games but I think our its between him or Cech as our best player so far this season, whose your chioce?

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05 Feb 2016 23:24:41
I'm going to say Hector Bellerin.
He's still a kid, playing in a foreign country and although he was injured, has kept an established quality player like Debuchy out of the team.

He's defensively solid, gets forward when he can and is faster than Ed025 dashing off to the kebab shop :-)

Quality player.

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{Ed025's Note - i like him dags..but hes not as fast as me mate.. :)

06 Feb 2016 00:29:30
I know that Ed, but just thought I would say he is faster than you to add a few £m to his valuation.

Got the brain of an agent me :-)

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05 Feb 2016 17:56:35
Heard Sturridge is not too happy at Liverpool.

So, what with Rosicky leaving at the end of the season, shall we buy him?

Seems a shame to let a bed go to waste in the treatment room.

You with me?

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05 Feb 2016 18:15:50
He would be perfect for us if can get fit. But we said that about diaby. I think he needs to move for sure and if he's still injured regularly after then he's cursed.

He would get injured doing your job dags. Pull a hammie during a hill Start.

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05 Feb 2016 18:23:23
Lol, you are right Derby :-)

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05 Feb 2016 19:04:31
Before the world cup he didn't have an injury issue so its a little soon to completely write him off imo.

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05 Feb 2016 14:44:27
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05 Feb 2016 11:00:03
Just seen what Sunderland have done to help people with autism attend matches, hopefully more clubs follow, and they get installed in every ground.

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05 Feb 2016 18:23:50
Totally agree MGM.

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05 Feb 2016 06:30:49
It's such a shame that we have let the lead in PL slip over the last few matches. We need to get back on track with a win against Bournemouth, after which we have a home match against Leicester coming up soon. With Man City playing Leicester and Tottenham also playing Man City in the near future, we desperately need to go on a winning run.

Against Bournemouth we must take the gamble of playing Coquelin and Elneny in front of the back four, as Flamini is simply awful. As Bournemouth tend to play an attacking game, particularly as they are home, we must have pace in the team to expose them on the break. I might be tempted to play Ox on the right and Walcott up front. With Sanchez on the left, this will give us a very pacy front line.

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05 Feb 2016 10:32:03
We've played 12 with and 12 without Le Coq this season, with we've taken 26 points which is a title winners return and without we've taken 19 which a is mid table teams return.
To me we have nothing to lose by playing him now because without him we've no chance of getting back in the race.

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05 Feb 2016 10:32:22
I think your right about Walcott! Both him and olly seem to play better when they are trying to make that possition theirs . But I would go with Joel Campbell instead of the ox. I think he has a better final ball!

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05 Feb 2016 11:39:38
draw this weekend i reckon. with afobe scoring.

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05 Feb 2016 12:20:20
Na we'll beat Bournemouth Derby mate then its the visit of league leaders and champions elect Leicester city a game in which we'll get right back in it or be seen off for another season.

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05 Feb 2016 12:59:52
Ahhh elneny the new next worldclass player, well until he makes a mistake then it will be flamini again :)

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05 Feb 2016 15:42:49
We shall see. There been predictions on here for wins in the last four games. Non happend. I actually see us beating Leicester at home more than Bournemouth away.

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05 Feb 2016 16:03:19
CTR how's your boy mitrovic doing? Stil heading to a top class European club one day?

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05 Feb 2016 17:58:16
Mitrovic?
Couldn't even get into a nightclub never mind a top club.

Pants.

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05 Feb 2016 09:18:04
Rights every body (including me) is panic stricken and losing their minds, we are stuttering badly. But it's not over by any stretch of the imagination, it is still in our hands and we should turn it around.
The run in is difficult but if we play to our best we should pull through, if we can't then we won't be Champions its simple. I choose to remain positive and not right our chances off so soon.
People should remain level headed as they are when we are winning, We have not become a bad side overnight just a blip.

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05 Feb 2016 11:32:24
Stop being so positive, positive :-)

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05 Feb 2016 10:07:36
The next two games could swing our chances! We have bournmouth whilst city and Leicester and then we have the foxes! Could be on top!

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