Arsenal Banter Archive February 05 2019

05 Feb 2019 21:52:51
Not that it matters but just read a very good article that states and proves Dicks first 24 games in his first season for arsenal are better than maureen, poch and klopp. They didn't start very well then did they? Still hope then! Lol.

05 Feb 2019 22:26:14
Personally I think the fact the article is relevant says more about what Dick hasn't achieved so far than what he has so far.
It's where we are this time next year that will say most because those 3 managers the article is comparing Dick to all achieved champions league football in thier second season, plus 2 of them got to Europa league finals in year one and if Dick emulates that bit he will get real breathing space.

05 Feb 2019 22:31:58
Cant argue with that at all.

06 Feb 2019 07:49:45
Emery has done a fine job after taking over a team in decline and with one of the weakest Arsenal squads in recent memory. With a limited budget he brought in 5 players, of which two have been excellent signings, two are decent signings, whilst one hasn't been great, but was acquired on a free for one season.
Emery has had to contend with 3 season ending injuries to a numerically challenged squad, whilst integrating the new players and methods.

The team are currently 3 points behind 4th placed Chelsea, who are away to Man City, whilst Arsenal play bottom placed Huddersfield.
The January dea for Denis Sanchez may prove in time to be a bargain. The decision not to renew Wilshere's contract was spot on, and he had the courage not to renew Ramsey's deal, as that would have committed us to another player on absurdly high wages.

In addition he decided to send Nelson on loan to gain valuable playing time and now Smith-Rowe has also been loaned out, If reports are correct he wants a new CB and LB in the summer, whilst reports today indicate that Mustafi will be sold in the summer. With limited funds he has done a fine job and I believe as he forms his own squad and moves out players he inherited that are simply not good enough, we will see progress. WE just have to be patient and support him.

06 Feb 2019 11:59:51
No wonder we got rid of Sven, Dick was having to do Svens job and his own :-)
Hopefully Svens replacement will pull his weight and leave Dick free to organise our defence:-)

06 Feb 2019 12:23:25
RG61 - you saw Ed’s note that the summer signings had nothing to do with Emery. So I can’t blame him for Lich. His window was the winter window. Just wanted to ensure we weren’t praising or blaming him fir the signings 😉.

06 Feb 2019 13:35:16
RG isn't a huge fan of letting the facts get in the way of what he choses to think SY :-)
For RG his opinion trumps any fact you can throw at him :-) .

We can all say what we want about RG but I still think he'd be a brilliant DM for us, his share tenacity and determination not to be beaten regardless of anything would be a major asset.
Long after the goal had been given triple checked by VAR and the match restarted RG would still be trying to not accept the opposition had scored.

06 Feb 2019 15:23:13
I am, of course entitled to my opinion and that is the fact that Emery managed both Guendouzi and Suarez, so I imagine his opinion and possibly his assistance would have definitely have come into the equation. I cannot recall Ed's comments on last summer's signings and do not wish to undermine any of the Ed's. However, I do not believe for one moment that Emery is not involved in the process of players that are signed during his management of the team, even if it is just the simple task of giving his approval to potential signings, although my instinct tells me he would be more involved.
G62 - you appear to have a serious problem understanding my posts and have an idiotic concept that I do not wish to be beaten. I am not opposed to changing an opinion, if presented with a sensible well written argument or an idea that makes sense. Today I read that Ian Wright has suggested playing Mustafi at RB and, although it may not work, I thought it was a sensible, thought out suggestion, as Lichtsteiner and Jenkinson are simply not good enough. I suggest that instead of trying to get one on me, as some people that make comments in such regard, you concentrate on making serious, intelleigent comments. If you do not agree with any of my comments then explain why. Do you seriously think there was no input from Emery on any of the 6 signings made during his reign at the club? He may nit have scouted the players or been involved in the negotiations and may have been a simple do you want him or not? Interestingly reports indicate that Emery put an end to offering Ramsey a new deal as he felt the funds could be invested better. That doesn't sound like a manager that is bypassed.

06 Feb 2019 18:12:43
Well said rg.

06 Feb 2019 18:21:00
RG, what funny is your info comes from “reports” and they are from the sun or daily mail at best. Your constant and repeatative post are far away from fact and as you are entitled to your opinion you should accept other poster.
And Emery did not manage Gouendouzi at PSG so he had nothing to do with him.

06 Feb 2019 19:18:31
RG the Eds told us long ago that Arsenal were going to appoint a coach not a manager as we know it in this country, responsible for picking and training the team but not buying new players, a new back room team were brought in to identify and sign new players that would be bought for the coach not chosen by the coach.
This is a system Dick has been used to because it's the norm through out European football and has been for years.
Ed001 once again told us yesterday that Dick did not chose any of our summer signings, not even litch.

I know it doesn't suit you to accept this information but Dick and Guendouzi were not together at the same time at PSG.
I know it's tough for you to hear what you don't want to be true but there you have it, you can continue to post what only you actually think is true that is up to you but don't expect too many people to agree with your single minded view no matter how many times you agree with yourself my old thumb :-)

06 Feb 2019 19:19:08
Hi Craig :-)

05 Feb 2019 08:28:45
Have we slipped into a parallel universe?
Steve is complaining about other posters being negative and doing nothing but moan about the manager :-)
Steve when it comes to moaning about the Arsenal manager I think you are still well in credit mate :-)
That is funny :-)

05 Feb 2019 15:38:05
Gunner, i try and post one positive post a year.

05 Feb 2019 18:32:54
Steve I had to laugh when I read it mate, it was like me complaining about how often people post, the length of thier posts or their spelling and grammar :-) .
The irony wasn't ĺost on me mate :-)

05 Feb 2019 19:05:11
I like a good moan gunner but to moan on everything arsenal is boring. At least i can say, i have moved on and i am in the process of looking forward to a newly powered outcome, Come what may. And by the way, i'm sure people found me boring, once i had done with wenger and wanted him gone. I still think he stayed two years too long at least. I can actually look at us now without any frustration against the manager, for now. That doesn't mean he is doing everything right but he is doing it his way. I will assess in may and again next may. The guy hasn't failed yet. Maybe we can have another lucky 22 game unbeaten run. Solskear has turned utd around when he came in, dick was lucky in his 22 game unbeaten run. Its all in the way you look at it. But what matters ultimately, what you have or haven't achieved at the end.

05 Feb 2019 20:04:39
It's all about respect Steve and we don't have to agree with each other to respect each others entitlement to feel see and think differently.

You were Arsene out and now your a huge fan of Dick in :-) I respect your life choices my friend :-)

05 Feb 2019 20:19:37
Well on that note gunner, i'm all for that.

05 Feb 2019 22:23:45
Steve - I agree and I don’t mean to moan on my posts or pick on you. But remembe you were tough on my Wenger position.

05 Feb 2019 22:36:43
Sy, i think its ironic that you are berating me for being so positive, when you used to disagree with my negativity. I accept my part in the turn around too, i couldn't get over your faith in wenger and now you negativity. Ironic but funny all the same. You have turned into a bigger moaner than me, wear the crown well. Lol.

05 Feb 2019 22:40:48
And Sy both you and me are opionated, we will always get flack and learn to give it back. I get now i must have been a right boring sod where wenger was concerned and i pi55ed people off. But we are what we are. We both ultimately want the same thing.

06 Feb 2019 02:05:32
Very true and you along with others have impacted / changed / challenged my opinions and that’s great. I never take anything too personal on the site and know w just want a great team to support. I had high hopes of the change, read about his tactics etc, saw AFC.com post loads of propaganda in preseason which got my hopes up. Unfortunately I am very disappointed but happy to give him time.

06 Feb 2019 03:54:49
Well this is nice.

06 Feb 2019 06:55:45
Tpg, gives us couple of days, it will soon change again. Big game Saturday.

05 Feb 2019 02:18:41
We need to review our business strategy if this is true.

"Unai Emery to have a transfer budget of just £45million this summer as Arsenal boss continues to work with stringent financial boundaries"

Or reset our expectations - we are in dange of becoming permanent also-ran

Embarrassing financial position - almost as bad as our defence.

05 Feb 2019 07:32:05
Think that report started in The Mirror so worth taking with a big pinch of salt. Getting rid of a lot of the dead wood we have will be a start and should free up quite a lot of cash but With teams spending 70mil + on defenders these days we don't stand a chance with Kroenke as owner.

05 Feb 2019 08:04:58
To be fair because everyone knows our loan only winter window situation and the state of our defence it's a very easy story for the media to bend shake stretch shape into anything they want it to be.
It's obvious with the club trying to off load Mesut from the wage bill that we are trying to correct the mistakes from the past which is why we didn't give into Aaron's demands.
I actually applaud this stance and think we will be better off on and off the pitch because of it long term.
I was never a fan of us over paying under achievers and it was horrible watching players hold the club to ransom in order to feather thier own nest at way above market value wages for thier ability.
Running down your Arsenal contract in order to fleece the club became the thing to do amongst the cosy club.

05 Feb 2019 10:31:09
If the reported £40-45m, plus amount raised in sales is true, then it will be another tricky window for Emery.
From an already short squad we stand to lose: Cech (retiring) . Ramsey, Lichtsteiner and Welbeck (Out of contract) . I doubt Holding and/ or Bellerin will be fit for the start of the season.
In addition I expect we will/ may sell: Ozil and Elneny.
That would leave us with only 18 fit players, including Suarez (assuming we sign him permanently) , Jenkinson and Martinez. Plus youngsters such as Nelson, Smith-Rowe, Willock, Nketiah, etc. Reports are that Emery wants 3 players including a left back and a centre back. Presumably we will be on the look out to sign players who are out of contract and available on a free.
Clearly Gazidis and Wenger left a financial mess. It would ideal if Kroenke put his hand in his pocket, but as we run a self-sufficient model I doubt this will happen.

05 Feb 2019 11:58:52
It would be possible to increase that to around 100m if we manage to sell to the right buyers. For instance, Ozil wants a large wage so perhaps a Chinese buyer will surface? If so, easy 40m at least for him! If he stays in Europe then he'll need to take a pay cut so perhaps 25m. Obviously convincing the player is another thing! Elneny could fetch another 10-12m and Jenkinson a couple million to the championship or even bottom premier league sides. let's face it, Kronke isn't interested so we will have to struggle on the way we are!

{Ed002's Note - It is not as simple as that.}

05 Feb 2019 12:33:58
Hi Glenn1308 - Ozil is almost unsaleable on wages of £350,000 per week. Yes, we may get £7-10m for Elneney at best. Jenkinson £2m at best.
I am then struggling to think of any other players that we would/ should sell, who are saleable and would achieve a reasonable fee. Possibly Chambers £10m, Iwobi £15m and Mustafi £20m. The problem with selling Iwobi and/ or Mustafi is that in the summer we will have a numerically short squad, without selling theses two.

05 Feb 2019 12:36:49
I can't see us getting a fee for Mesut as any potential fee would be swallowed up in wage subsidising in order to get him off our wage bill.
Poor financial management has left us in this situation and we are simply going to have to suck the lemon left over from the past in order to clear the path for setting fresh seeds that barefruit in future.
We have two choices as I see it and niether are exciting or easy please ones.
A spend what we have the best we can
B cash in on an a prize asset and reinvest the money generated on 2 or 3 other players.
I know it's not what we all want but it's reality as this is the real world of football not fantasy football computer game.
The books have to ballance not just for us but for everyone.
United are able to generate huge funds because they are a huge world wide brand
City have very estute investors who are both wealthy and prepared to invest (not give away money on players)
Chelsea are no longer the buy buy buy club they once were, I think their books ballance quite well now days.
Liverpool have self generated most of thier spending from sales and champions league success.
Spurs are self sustaining.
In today's football running up huge debts on spending simply isn't an option, . which is a very good thing because no business can stay afloat forever by simply spending what they don't have. Liverpool came close to going bust due to debts from past crazy spending and that isn't a good business model for anyone to follow.

05 Feb 2019 14:40:12
Depends how you look at it. Obviously there are payment plans and things to take in to account but the money will come in to the club regardless. It may mean initial outlay will be higher but we won't necessarily pay for players outright either. Either way the maths still remain the same and if we want to boost our available funds then we need to trim the squad. Plus the additional funds from champions league qualification may help also if we can get there!

{Ed002's Note - No, you don't understand the finances at all - just try and avoid discussing it.}

05 Feb 2019 14:56:03
Okay Ed, we will all see the finances when Arsenal release their Group Annual Report in May anyhow.

{Ed002's Note - That does not relate to this season - just accept you are beginning to make a fool of yourself here. Just stop.}

05 Feb 2019 15:16:43
Did I say it relates to this season? No I didn’t. It relates to the current financial year which includes the latest transfer window funnily enough. Will give us a better picture of where we are financially for the summer.

{Ed002's Note - You are not taking the hint and it is getting embarrassing.}

05 Feb 2019 17:22:00
One thing is for sure, no company or sustainable business can survive every year with a £40 million net spend and not balancing the books.