Arsenal Banter Archive June 05 2015

05 Jun 2015 22:25:15
A box to box player is someone like Toure, Veiera, Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, a holding midfielder (a CDM for those of you that only understand football through acronyms) is a player like Wanyama, coquelin, makelele, those kinds of people so can people please stop asking for a CDM in the Veiera mould... It's just ignorant.

05 Jun 2015 23:40:38
Exactly Saint,

That's why its ridiculous when people say Wilshere should be our Defensive Mid.

No, no, no.

That's why Coquelin is doing so well.
He's a proper DM like Gilberto Silva or Petit.

06 Jun 2015 00:55:31
I can't find anywhere someone has. but maybe suggested that a CDM was not in there league and on the grand scheme of things it's a bit like having a debate about giroud and someone saying yeah he's ok but he's no Thierry Henry and then someone autistically replying ' for God sake they are not even the same sort of striker completely different old chap' to take things out of context and get rediculess about silly details is unreal. It was always 4-4-2 lol and now we have box to box, dynamic midfield and God knows what else to describe central midfield players who operate in different ways. Have people forgot about sweepers and anchor men haha. Any way there must be bigger fish to fry. Start learning the alphabet backwards rain man. Because I'm sure your a real good driver

06 Jun 2015 08:54:02
unbelieveable, half my point was that in Cazorla, Ramsey, Wilshere and co. We are already well stocked in box to box midfielders

06 Jun 2015 10:18:14
It's a shame you don't get half points in the premier league! And I do understand how frustrating it is when someone doesn't get the point and gets all serious 😜

07 Jun 2015 11:31:22
To be honest it was lost on me when u mentioned Cazorla being a box to box CM lol.

{Ed025's Note - my old dad used to say to me chris.."if you cant say something nice, then dont say nothing at all"....i was bloody glad when we got him locked up.. :)

07 Jun 2015 12:35:18
Lol ed.

Oh congratulations on beating villa to the signing of the English Xavi mate.

👍

{Ed025's Note - thanks for that chris.. :(

05 Jun 2015 05:19:56
So I might be in the massive, massive minority here, but does anyone else think that Sanogo just needs game time and he can turn out rather good? A loan at a championship club or club low in the French ligue 1 to start with, anyway, like Lille

05 Jun 2015 07:45:06
There's specialist and secure places for people like you.

Be strong my friend, be strong.

Help is just a phone call away.

05 Jun 2015 08:07:37
Anyone remember Kaba Diawara?
Strong, physical, looks like a footballer until he gets the ball at his feet.
That is the closest comparison to Sanogo that I can think of

05 Jun 2015 10:37:00
Lol Sussex, nail on head mate.

05 Jun 2015 12:58:26
I actually forgot there is someone named Sanogo.

(sad face)

05 Jun 2015 14:20:22
In all fairness I saw him score two goals in one game for Palace this season - both disallowed unfairly.

05 Jun 2015 16:21:34
In all fairness, I think that = no goals

05 Jun 2015 00:13:29
Not sure if this was mentioned before but Le Coq has made more interceptions and successful tackles then every single dmf in premier league since the start of the year. Players include Matic, schinerlin and wanyama. Also has won more aerial duals then Matic.

Lucky to have you Le Coq

05 Jun 2015 00:58:56
Are you his agent?

05 Jun 2015 07:25:30
Le Coq 2015 was second to know one in terms of excellence including Sanchez.

05 Jun 2015 07:30:30
Couldn't agree more noodles, if you actually watch him, where he moves, what he covers, how he organises and that he makes it all look pretty simple.

It's just his name that isn't flash enough. I'm not sure what people expect after 5 months in a role.

Chelsea actually flogged Matic then had to buy him back again.

No one is yet to proclaim Coquelin as world class but he has done a hellava job for us exactly where we needed it.

Maybe Bellerin isn't really that good either. ;-)

05 Jun 2015 10:42:20
As Wenger said, "People discount Coquelin because he didn't cost £40m".

I've been calling for the signing of Schneiderlin all season.
If we don't sign him, Coq's form will soften the blow for me.

His biggest plus is his discipline.
He doesn't get forward but patrols left and right, covering the back four and the gap in between defence and midfield.

He's a top boy.

05 Jun 2015 12:45:52
I think all arsenal fans ( me included ) have whole heartedly become part of the ethos that wenger has brought to the club where we stick by players and have stability and continuity. I'm all for this and that way saw us reap rewards until... Abramhovic and the wealthy sheik's at City whos whole way of thinking and cold cut approach to winning! If you look at matic fo example we all knew he was good but at the time chelsea didn't quite fancy him then he came back and was the finished article. And I do think le coq is great and will be come amazing I'm not dissing him at all but when wenger said they never paid 50 mil for him and that's why people might question him but the fact is he isn't worth 50million ..... Yet. Bellerin has shown enough to not need replacing we bought debuchy and bellerin took his chance and its his position now. You have too look at the side that won the league the past two years. Would you leave out matic and yaya for le coq? Not a sniff no way. Our club is the best run club in the league and we should show loyalty but we need to find a halfway house now we can afford it. But let's face it the difference between our club and city or chelski is that when we win things it's real well earned and honest and it will feel far better than the hollow victories of the synthetic clubs of city and chelsea

05 Jun 2015 14:01:10
I think you can use stats to back up anything. Comparing Le Coq's stats versus those other DM's but only for 2015 is pointless IMO, as they all played a full season in the Prem rather than half either on the sidelines or in the championship. let's see how Le Coq fairs against them after a full season in the premiership. However, that's not saying that I don't highly rate what i have seen of Le Coq, and here's hoping he does continue his fine form next season....

05 Jun 2015 15:26:44
Sanchez Kos and Carzola in his first season apart who of our players have ever had a complete fantastic season?
Le Coq may have only had half a season but during it he was very very consistently excellent, many of our players have been in and around the first team for many years now and would snatch your hand off to have a 5 months of consistently performing at the same level as Le Coq already has under his belt.
He's the real deal people and saved us a fortune not to mentioned sparing
us from another 4th place trophy.

05 Jun 2015 17:05:22
Couldn't agree more Gunner62. still remember the game against Man City when arsenal lost possession in our own half just before half time and Le Coq had to mop up and went mental at the players. For a player who Arsenal career to be over who only just got into the team to have a go at players like Cazorla, ramsey and sanchez takes some balls. The game when he was concussed, had a broken nose and blood pouring down his face. Some players would of wanted to get subbed. But he soldiered on. Surely he is the player we have been looking for years?

Kos and drogba has proved you don't have have to be an amazing youngster to be world class. We have a hell of player in our hands why try to ruin it.

Yes we should always try to improve the squad, but is schiderlin and wanyama really a upgrade. We are not talking about mascherano here. They have had good season at southampton but le coq has had a very good season at Arsenal. There is a huge difference on having a good season at southampton and having a good season at Arsenal. If they were bringing top level experience, winning mentality or unbelievable leadership skills like Mascherano then i will say sign them up. But they not, they are very good players but surely 25m is too much money for a player who will be back up to Le coq? Especially when we really need a CF?

05 Jun 2015 18:24:36
100% Noodle's mate, i wish replacing Le coq was our biggest need I really do because the day he's our weakest link we will be Premier league, Champions league, both domestic cups and world club champions league that season.
But unfortunately for us there are many who need upgrading before we have the luxury of worrying about bettering Le Coq