Arsenal Banter Archive September 05 2013

05 Sep 2013 23:27:52
A serious question Gooners.
Can anybody name a high profile player that left Madrid and went on to have a successful career elsewhere?
There must be, but I can't think of anyone off the top of my head? {Ed007's Note - Arjen Robben?}

Sneijder?

Sneijder? Huntelaar?

Sneijder, Claude Makelelel, Ozil ;-)
Flybo

Eto'o . .

Cambiasso, Figo, Seedorf come to mind and an older one would be Luis Enrique.

Anelka!

05 Sep 2013 21:12:52
Rumours s of Ozil wanting to join utd but them not wanting him can mean only one thing! We are being taken seriously again by top teams. Been a long time since we experienced sour grapes on a transfer we got and competitors didn't.

Typical Old Trafford deflection technique. "Our transfer window was a shambles, but we were offered Ozil first and turned him down."
Says a lot about a club which didn't know how to buy a Spanish player by lodging the appropriate sum with the Spanish FA.
Woodward makes Gazidis look competent.

I think united didn't want ozil as he is similar in playing style to kagawa. the only difference being. he is 10x better

05 Sep 2013 18:08:58
hi eds
I am curious about one think(probably as meny gooners) you eds some time in a winter time was talking about ''big think'' at the club.talks was about board and Wenger.later you start to talk about big signing.But seems like Ozil was last day or two stuff.Could you please ''open cards'' (of course as much as you can) for us gooners that was going on at Arsenal? {Ed044's Note - Ed02 said there would be significant changes at the club by September 2014.}

Thanks.i am looking forward to that

Hopefully uamanov takes over. Can't wait till September 2014 now!

We should find out by october who bought those shares and i'm quite certain it is usmanov.

i don't want him to pump money, just make bold decisions.

we have 60 million from sponserships plus tv money. and I understand we have outgoings as well, but I think we should be able to have atleast the capacity to buy a striker for 50 million. a proper world class striker like suarez or aguero.

and then just add quality players to give depth and challenge. recruit young players and keep it rolling that way.

i think we are one superstar away from being major contenders. let's not become madrid where every position has a superstar, and not getting the best out of that player.

05 Sep 2013 15:58:08
Alan hansen said in 95/96 season when utd lost to Aston Villa 3-1 on the opening day you can't win anything with kids. Utd went on to win the double. Everyone has wrote us off this season after the villa defeat, I wonder if we can prove them wrong?

I remember losing 3-2 at highbury to villa opening day of season and mickey did it Anfield last game of season to win us the league. Who knows if history repeating but instead of Mickey T it could be Mesut O. Here's dreaming

05 Sep 2013 13:18:33
Özil seems to have moved to us for a personal reason. He doesn't seem all happy at the moment and I think it will take time for him to reach his best with us.
Imagine having the best names in football being shocked by your move from Real Madrid to Arsenal. He doesn't know an awful lot about the club - maybe because he hasn't had enough time at all to do some research!
So I think is very much for personal gain, his move here

Nevertheless,
COYG!

I think he saw the light - they signed Isco when they had Ozil. I think he just used his brain and got out, he wipes the floor with Isco but Isco is the new hometown hero so to speak. As Ozil said, if you aren't Spanish they don't really care about you. Never had his name chanted but Isco was chanted in his first game. There's more to life than playing for Barca or Madrid, glad he sees it that way.

Also it's a world cup year and imagine if he was a sub behind Isco, that could jeopardise his international status. Germany have so many amazing ACMS. I think it was a wise move! He joined a team on the rise, that he walks into but is big enough to merit having him, we're a waking giant and he is now the future of our midfield.

Spot on metal

05 Sep 2013 11:10:19
Who like me was surprised when ribary* went Munich a few years back because even tough they had great history in the Cl and at home they didn't seem to be an attractive option for one of the leading midfielders in Europe at the time but look at them now they can attract top top players. Maybe Özil signing for us is the start of a bayern Munich type revolution.
The only shame is the sugur daddy clubs making it harder for teams like us Munich and Dortmund t
But wenger seems to like the German model we now have 5 Germans in the squad maybe wenger will turn up to the colony driving a polo!

05 Sep 2013 08:56:16
I did ask at the time as to what the wait was all about once the medical for ozil was done, well I have just seen this on the lfc site.
{Ed001's Note - not true, Ozil waited to see if United wanted him, they turned down the chance to sign him. Moyes didn't want him.}

interesting, he OBVIOUSLY only wanted arsenal because he is a gooner through and through not

If we only ever got players that felt for the club like we do, we'de be disappointed. As long as when they play they give 100% then i'm happy.
Who cares how we got Ozil, we got him. Happy days.
Flybo (thanks to the Ed who sorted out my registration troubles.)

I don't care if he wanted united first. As long as we have him now, he can show united what they misses.

Jealousy thou name is Derbyshire dave

05 Sep 2013 12:01:06
Are you bored chatting to the other two posters on your page Dave.

See you've been getting it from all angles. Did you by any chance listen to what Khedira said about his mate Ozil. No, I thought not.

Its so funny how "players who don't want to wear the shirt should play for someone else" this has been quoted many many times on here yet now guess what "we don't care if he wanted united first" are you for real. I am not going to say your fickle because we would all be the same if we had a chance to get ozil but its funny he wanted someone else first, hey I know how that feels willian didn't want us first choice then he went to them. as for jealous I think I am among one group of fans who really, really isn't jealous I am still purring over the SEVEN signings we made and that was a nett spend of zero so no not jealous more curious as to how such steadfast fans can change. it is a good job he didn't go to united though for all of us. as for bored as stoner suggests not bored I love banter keeps us going in between games. good luck and let's hope that ozil can handle the epl as you lot seem to think people from the spanish league tend to struggle in this leaguie or is that just for soldado lol

05 Sep 2013 13:31:27
So exactly as I thought, you didn't hear it.

Soldago we'll do well once he gets the service.
Flybo

Oh Dave,

You are purring like a kitten are you?

You needed more than 7 signings mate, signing £100m worth of players is not enough to even beat us at our lowest point.

spending that type of money on individual players does not make a team, that's what got your manager the sack from chelski.

Now pussycat, scamper back to the spud page and be a good kitty.

mmmmeeeeooooowwwww!

Stoner, I am not looking to argue as to who signed the best players as that is obvious at present (erikson and lamela will eventually contest that). I did hear what all these stars said about ozil DID YOU because they could not believe he went to arsenal and not one of the big clubs. maybe he will return you to the heights you were but everyone seems to conceive you as an also run now, that's the bit through all of this that would concern me. I however think with the players you have and stay injury free you have a real shot at the title this year so good luck

I don't care if he wanted another club first - he's here that's the main thing.

Some players may choose a club specifically, but most are professionals, who perhaps gain an affection for a club after sometime.

We have been 'also runs' as you put it, mainly down to funding the stadium, which meant we couldn't afford to replace the quality we had as they left, especially in an inflated market (thanks to the sugar daddies).

But we are in a fantastic position financially now, so there is no reason why we can't recruit the likes of ozil and get back to the those heights you speak of.

We the have the stadium, training facilities, resources, etc. of a big club- we just need to add a little more quality and then we can really start competing again.

With all due respect to ed001, there are many media outlets reporting that United DID make a last ditch effort to sign Ozil up on deadline day but by that time it was too late, Madrid were not entertaining any more offers and Ozil had his mind made up on Arsenal. So there you go dave, believe what you want, but in the end, OZIL is A GUNNER!

Ps: I hope pool is not up top in the table by winter transfer window, because there are rumblings that Suarez could still make his way to Arsenal!

Despite reports in the Spanish media that Mesut Ozil was waiting by the phone for a move to Man Utd, he had already signed for Arsenal, writes John Cross - Mirror

05 Sep 2013 16:12:05
Dave,

Unfortunately like a lot of opposing fans and including a few of our own you fail to look at the bigger picture.

Yes we could and should of maybe pinched the odd trophy in the last 8 years but we haven't, what we have achieved was achieved with shackles on, they are now off.

Thus we are like Metal has aptly said further up, a sleeping giant waking up.

We are not the done deal yet but Ozil represents a significant start.

We have no guarantees of anything in the way of silverware yet but a minimum of 3rd and a piece of it will be a start. Then we will see a big difference again.

How your guys bed in and how quickly is the important thing for you but the race for the title I'm sure won't be the boring snooze fest of rubbish football playing champions this time around.

Definitely LG1 a good versatile group of players and I think a great manager who knows how to get the best from what he has. 337, check your facts about chelsea and his signings also with your comments you sound kinda like a child. we, however were trying to have a grown up conversation between two rival fans (it is possible) you can feel free to join if you want. but it is true we did need to spend that ind of money just to catch up

I don't think they were surprised he didn't go to a top club, they were angry that Madrid sold him because he's the best number 10 in the world. And that he's a good person as well as a good footballer.

And at 42.5 million. Compared to lamela at 30 million. Ozil is a steal!

Unfortunately I agree with the sleeping giant as stoner refers to, and yes we have to hope our fella's gel quickly and it should make for a great season. ozil by the way is pure class and am I jealous. you bet I am

Derbyshire Dave may as well wade in here but I have read what his former team mates have said and not one of em have said they can't believe he has signed for arsenal just they can't believe Real Madrid agreed to sell him.

If utd had the chance of Ozil he would be there now, they haven't been so successful over the years by turning down players of his quality who wanted to join them. Don't believe it! Won't believe I, he has always wanted to play for arsenal you can see it in his eyes when he talks about us and if you look back over the years at its always been there, the eyes never lie

05 Sep 2013 05:22:41
Not an Arsenal fan but I think Ozil is a brilliant signing. More assists over the past 3 seasons than anyone in Europe, but aren't Arsenal fans slightly concerned he won't be able to reach those heights (through no fault of his own) when you consider who he was assisting? Not knocking Giroud who seems to be bang on form but he's no Ronaldo and to be fair I think gooners were quite ready to replace him with either Higuain or Benzema.

Hig or benzema were never garenteed a starting 11 spot if they joined, wenger always said he's looking for super talent, but they would have to fight for their spot.

I think he will do brilliantly. And I hope mourniho is right in saying we are title challengers with mesut in the team.


COYG
FOYS

I don't think that Ozil is the end of our spending but as the start, I can see arsenal buying players Bayern Munich style and getting one good player (20+mill) per window as needed with a mixture of youth.

We have the money, stadium, training facilities and depending on who you ask on here, the right manager to take us to the next level and I think Ozil is that next level.

Giroud wasn't to be replaced a new striker was an addition 1 we still need. Ollie is going to surprise so many people this season

05 Sep 2013 03:32:53
Hi Eds and fellow posters, Buzzing about the Ozil deal and how it affects our season, automatically helps us achieve our goals not only due to his ability but also increasing confidence and ability in the current squad players Theo and Giroud will love him in the squad and could get 25+ goals each. 1 question 2 any of the eds, was there real interest in Rooney and Ramos and would we go back in for both or any other player back in Janurary. {Ed013's Note - There was interest early on, but not towards the end of the window. Its really hard to say if any interest will develop in January when prices will be higher and no manager wants to sell their best players half way through a season}

05 Sep 2013 00:23:04
When's ed 022 back ed can't wait to hear what he has to say bout the ozil. {Ed001's Note - I don't know mate.}

Cheers ed thanks for everything this TF window too I'd say ye were busy boys for TFDD.