Arsenal Banter Archive August 06 2013

 

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06 Aug 2013 23:54:07
straight from the horses mouth (no offence suarez). he is taking his case to the premier league because he has a written agreement with liverpool that if they didn't qualify for champions league he can definitely leave for a club who have qualified.
that's no guarantee it would be arsenal but things are looking good.

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06 Aug 2013 23:39:36
The Guardian seem to have interviewed Suarez. Direct quotes and some positive hints that things might be moving up a gear.

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06 Aug 2013 23:31:51
Suarez told Pete Jenson of the Daily Telegraph and Sid Lowe of The Guardian that he wants to leave Liverpool for Arsenal (he didn't mention Arsenal's name directly - but its very much clear with other hints he given). He has now gone public to force his move out - seems like very positive for Arsenal. I hope it happens!

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06 Aug 2013 23:30:02
Tv sky: stating saurez has said he wants out and it is in his contract that any bid over £40m gives him permission to leave for a champions league club, so that is coming from the player himself, so Liverpool are breaking rules to try keep hold of him beacause they no there screwed without him, he has said that liverpool are going on there promise to let him leave. Eg: Liverpool said last year stay for 1 more year and if we don't make it in top 4 you can go, now there trying to say the same to make him stay but he wants out. Stop being stubborn w*****s and let the lad go. Will he come to arsenal I'm not sure but I hope so, it's great news for us since we have offered the £40,000001 so we have a great chance but still think we could pull it off?

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Conflicting is he talking verbal clause or written clause. verbal counts for nothing.

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He said in the article it was written into his contract.

Let's see. Who do the FA hate more. Arsenal or Liverpool?

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He apparently has it both written and verbal.

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Verbal contracts still carry weight. Particularly with a witness.

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06 Aug 2013 23:17:14
If I knew arsene was going to do sweet fa in the transfer market I should've gone on big brother to get away from the dross by the papers on about Suarez Rooney and monkey boy! COYG FOYS

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06 Aug 2013 22:52:21
Easy Ed's

Whats the chances of this lad Sebastien Perez joining?

Just watched a small YouPube vid of him and I know, You tube can make players look a lot better than they actually are, (Gervinio) but this kid looks like exactly what we need.

Seemed to read the game well, sitting just in front of the back 4 most of the time with a eye for a lovely pass.

Would be more than happy to get him. Also any idea on the fee? {Ed027's Note - he is on trial, he impressed me at the U20WC, but it all depends on Arsene, he would cost around 5m

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Would he get a work permit though, that's the question? {Ed027's Note - I read he already has a European passport

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06 Aug 2013 22:46:20
why has no one, when speaking of the suarez media rift, ever thought to mention the number of arsenal players who have had MASSIVE media coverage for doing unclassy stuff. compared to any other top 4 club?

surely arsenal's dealings with the media suggest that we handle them better than ANY club?

never hear about transfers untill they are practically done.

i honestly think aside from leaving the PL arsenal are his best bet.

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06 Aug 2013 22:23:34
Long time reader first time poster. ?

Well ha you get the sentiment, firstly congratulations for a bang tidy forum ed's and fellow contributors.

I promise to never claim to be in the proverbial know, or express any tranfer speculation that isn't pure deduction, guesswork or hunch.

When it comes to rants all bets are off lol.

Stating the blinding obvious quality transfers are neeeded, however Arsenal turned a corner last season and have progressed well into this preseason on and off the pitch.

In the sense that the squad are gelling together, understanding each others movement and becoming more cohesive. Flashes of that were on show during preseason.

Off the field: no departures of our first team regulars, all of our British youngsters handed contract extensions. A tremendous effort of clearing the decks of deadwood, new commercial revenue that was needed thus allowing wenger an extra 50-70mill per season on transfers and contract extensions.

All points rarely mentioned on here, Arsene Wenger could have easily packed his bags once he realised that an impending decade of financial restrictions were upon him in 2005/6.

Signed for real or bayern or any other European heavy weight at that time and continued is previous success. He didn't he stuck with us through those tough times like a trooper and yes he made mistakes, he's been stubborn, tried to do things in his unique way, been too loyal to certain players even naive some would say. But alas a new Dawn is upon us were we can splash 40mil on the Luis Suraez's of the world and do that without the reliance of Oil money or a Russian Oligarch. In World football on Arsenal and Bayern have that type of financial model, a rare thing indeed and one we should be proud of and realise Wenger and this board have allowed Arsenal FC to not only compete now with richest clubs in football but for the next century god willing.

So in conclusion wenger out! Lol

No seriously he needs to be given a new contract and afforded every opportunity to pick up from were he left off in 2003/4.

O ye of little Faith the second coming of the Invicibles is upon us!


P. s reinforcements I'd like to see:

Fabianski given his p45 asap he only has a year left on his contract anyway why keep him if no extension is planned?

In that case a keeper but not cesar who would expect to be first choice going into a World Cup that would ruin Scz development. So IMO a keeper along the lines of Vivanio of fiorentina if Cesar ends up there he might become available or Ruffier from Rennes or Patrico from Lisbon.

Central Def: Young, strong, quick and read the game has to Ginter plus he's 6'2 and German. Saw him play in the under 20's Euro impressed me.


Arguably the most important position needed to be filled is def mid, because I believe Areta had his best season sitting along side/or just in front of Song. Would love to se Gustavo from Bayern right age experience and he's left footed would bring balance to a completely right footed central mid except for Wilshire and yes carzola is two footed but he's naturally right footed.

If not hen Lars Bender who will be a mainstay in the german set up for the next 8- 10 yeas would be a great addition. Either really or how about both?

I expect a big season from Ryo miayachi down out left wing, I would love to see Bernard brought in a little ahead of ryo in his development but since the ox is playing in middle more and I can't see podolski staying beyond next season then Bernard would be a brilliant piece of business can play on either wing or behind the striker. And finally watching Suarez and Coutinho link up in the second half of last season, I think if we sign both Suarez and Bernard they could replicate that for us.

However if we don't sign Bernard am more then happy with podolski and Ryo.

Stiker position has to be Suarez if not maybe Muriel at Udinese and talk of a back up striker regardless of Suarez being signed how about Vydra who was at Watford last season quality little player still young, chech international and plays the arsenal way.


Two final punts if were unsuccessful with the above how about Michu and Xabi Alonso? Alonso has a year left in his contract and 15millish at Swansea might tempt them just a thought.


More to come.

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06 Aug 2013 21:54:50
I sign off twice NIGUNNER as its habit, stupid I agree will try and stop but since I have been trying to stop picking my nose since the age of 2 and haven't managed am not confident haha.

Holmesy

Dam it

Holmesy {Ed027's Note - lol

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HAHA!

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06 Aug 2013 21:06:22
for me there are plenty of positives to take into the new season, but also looking at the squad we need a few changes, not just in new additions but mainly defensive work as although some players have shone the defence as a whole has looked leaky when playing bigger opposition (Napoli, Gala).
Moving on we do need new faces and Wenger knows this. For a start there is a lot of quality in the side but the squad is thin having sold a host of players and we need to add a few more big players in terms of strengthening. The way I see it is wengers last year so why not spend big and go for a trophy.

The players I expect or hope to be brought in.

CB- Ginter- Seems a wenger signing, talented, 19, versatile, a good prospect for the future, he can add cover for the defence as a 4th center back. (7million)

CDM- Lars Bender- Exactly what we need, someone who can break down attacks and start them. (20million)

ST-Luis Suarez- The big signing everyone is hoping for this guy would be lethal upfront and could be 25+ goalscorer arsenal are in need of. (45million)

ST-Ciprian Marica- A wenger style signing, 27, experience in some big leagues and would be a more talented cover then, bendtner or park.

Player positives:

Laurent Kosceilney: Looks dominant, strong and pacy, seems to have a passion for the club.

Bacary Sagna: Looks more energetic than last season and versatile, looks stronger.

Aaron Ramsey: Seems to be getting back to form and runs all day and has a desire to fight.

Jack Wilshere: Getting back to full fitness and being available from the start is promising for us to have a good start.

Tomas Rosicky: Looking more like the player who first joined, quick in moving the ball around.

Ox Chamberlain: Strong, quick, an eye for goal this guy looks like he could be on the verge of braking into the starting 11 to become a regular starter.

Olivier Giroud: After a decent first season and pre season, he looks like finally he can cope in leading arsenals front line and can finish what is put in front of him.

Youth: Gnabry, Akpom, Sanogo, Zelalem, Jenkinson, Miyaichi, Eisfeld all look good and could provide good back up next season, with some looking like bursting onto the scene.

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You've even got me believing!let's just hope, bender is the key

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Good post agree almost entirely, just would change second striker for keeper, Suarez alongside current strikers would be plenty of firepower. Just sooner rather than later eh!

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Best post I've read in here in a good time.

All valid points (save Sagna, don't know if he's got a full season at said level)

Kos is still the boss, Ramsey is going to surpass Arteta in my eyes, wether this season or next, he has the ability and his fitness level considering the horror leg break is nothing short of astounding.

Willshere is still lacking fitness I think, but Arsenal are the best club and the league at developing fitness (see Ramsey comment above)

Giroud. Hungry for goals. let's hope he fuels that fire. I personally believe in him.

Let Spurs drop 26mon Soldado while we watch Giroud rack up the goals (and assists to boot!)

COYG

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06 Aug 2013 20:58:33
Wonder if we could pinch lukaku from Chelsea? 20-30m? I do rate this lad highly.

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I wouldn't complain -he's class.

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Chelski will sell no one under about 25 or so, over last few seasons abramovic has been clever and bought in lots of talented kids to replace players as retire without spending stupidly when ffp comes in he will be in strong position

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06 Aug 2013 20:10:08
hi everyone,
i have read on a couple media websites that we maybe interested in another spanish wonderkid
Alvaro Vadillo.
real betis 18 years old
i wonder Ed's if there's any truth in this or you have anything on the player?
thanks {Ed027's Note - not heard anything on it mate, i'd imagine we'd offer him a trial first, this hasn't happened

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Trial. haha. not even zlatan can stop our trials

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06 Aug 2013 19:54:02
Hi Eds, can you please tell me if the below scenario is possible?

As Liverpool don't want to sell Suarez to us (premier league team), can we team up with some non-premier league team like Napoli and request Napoli to buy Suarez for 40 million and later sell him to us for a little more money? {Ed027's Note - that will not happen mate

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That would make us the most dispicable club in the world worse that city and chelsea

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06 Aug 2013 19:34:12
Hi Eds any news on deals for a CDM? Are the Fellaini or Bender deals still in the works or have they gone cold? {Ed027's Note - we had a bid rejected for Bender, that was that. We frowned upon Fellainis buy out clasue, that could be that as I expect Utd to sign him, Sebastien Perez has a trial at the moment, he is 20 years old, and I would not be surprised if he is brought in to do the job

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06 Aug 2013 19:30:15
just thought to mention if anybody hasn't read todays Le Grove blog, they should do so, I thought it made a interesting read
Thanks for the site Ed {Ed027's Note - i'll give it a read

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The Mean Lean one is really good (Arsenal Vision) and gives a more reticent analytical standpoint. Also good info on Suarez transfer.

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You have to agree with most of the blog, Ivan might become the fans best weapon. If we don't start the season well I can see the trigger being pulled on Wenger. Wenger always says the club is most important, well he better understand it and act quickly otherwise he won't be at the head anymore

Holmesy

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I read Le Grove every day. There's no denying they have a decent take on things, regardless of whether I agree. I often don't. But I read every single Le Grove.

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I really hope Ivan acts before Wenger makes him look like an mug, really think there are lots going on behind the scenes which will end with one leaving

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06 Aug 2013 19:21:12
Heard there might be a possibility that Suarez wait for his dream move to. . Real Madrid, oh what a shock, not.

Mark my words Wenger will miss out, is he waiting to attract more players by being in the CL? this will leave him 3 days to do his business.

I am finding Wenger to be very odd, I have said it time and time again over the last 2 or 3 seasons, we need to finish 6th or 7th to get any response from the board. Bring back David Dein.

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We all think this as well

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06 Aug 2013 19:13:29
Oscar Cardozo has come out and said he wants to leave Benfice due to interest from abroad, Ed any chance Arsenal could bid for him? {Ed027's Note - last I heard he was on his way to Ukraine

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06 Aug 2013 19:11:12
I say rather than blow most of the transfer funding on the volatile and toxic Luis Suarez, I say we invest heavily on a quality left winger, maybe Sanchez or Lamela, or Di Maria, any of them would probably be available I we gave their respective clubs a decent whack. I believe if we stick with Giroud and Podolski who will both have improved in their second seasons as our centre forward, keep Walcott on the right after an impressive season and put Sanchez on the left we'd have a very dangerous front line.

Other than a new world class winger, if I was AW I'd go all out on a Lars Bender type midfielder, unfortunately our interest in him seems to have died down eds? He would be a perfect tough tackling anchor to allow Wilshere and Cazorla/Arteta to move the ball forward. I also think Ginter would be an incredible investment I've heard great things about him.

And finally, I think that missing out on Ashley Williams would be a mistake, I think a defensive partnership of Williams and Koscielny would have the perfect combination of leadership, bite, presence and tough tackling.

Just my thoughts.

Fab

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I pretty much agree with you mate.

i really can't see us signing Suarez-
would much rather we focus on someone like Lemala or a creative player - then invest in some quality in mf -
for the life of me I just don't know why we're not in for Luis Gustavo.

I really believe Wenger hasn't a f**king clue what he's doing.

i have the same feeling of impending doom I had 2 years ago when we bought all that crap for pittance

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06 Aug 2013 19:04:36
Hi Ed, I read somewhere the other day that clauses (release, buyout etc. ), and the one Suarez has are supposed to be confidential. Was just wondering if that was true. If it is, doesn't that defeat the purpose? Cheers. {Ed027's Note - search clause in the search function and you will find a nice piece by Ed002

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06 Aug 2013 18:22:09
Anymore news on Omar andylrahman ed.
Kb {Ed027's Note - a trial has been offered, I haven't got a clue if this has started or not, we have taken a few other on trial too, Perez of course, and this Morrocan winger who has shocked a few

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I've heard that the trial was rejected by his club.

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06 Aug 2013 18:17:30
Hey eds, good call on the registration requirement, just have a question, do you think the Paul mariner announcement has any weight to it? Espn seems a pretty reliable source {Ed027's Note - Ed002 has said for some time Suarez will be leaving

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And what did Paul Mariner have to say

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He said yesterday that arsenal were granted permission by Liverpool to speak with suarez over a transfer. I'm assuming that a new bid was either placed or accepted. He also said that he is surprised given suarez's comments on the English media, but that it is certain he will be leaving Liverpool.

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06 Aug 2013 17:42:13
Am I the only one who wouldn't care if we just paid Liverpool 50 million and got the deal done?

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No really- tbh its todays market.

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True bud I would pay the 50 and get the deal done Deon gunner

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06 Aug 2013 17:31:42
Let's sign a bloody left winger

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I agree

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Agreed like a quality winger to be added, Griezmann, Muniain and Vela would be my picks.

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Definitely need a quality left winger. Podolski didn't do enough last season to keep the position, even if he did he would never be completing 90 minutes.
Can't expect too much out of Ryo and Gnabs so it leaves the Ox.
While he deserves more game time this year I don't want to 100% rely on him.
Schürrle would have been a good signing, Muniaín would be nice as well like Will said. Arda Turan might do a job, Di Maria would be nice.
I think at best we will end up with Nani and to be honest, that would not disappoint me.

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06 Aug 2013 17:31:16
Friday. Come on!

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06 Aug 2013 17:27:46
tv: Luis Suarez misses liverpools game today with apparent foot injury

Kent Gooner

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06 Aug 2013 16:52:51
Suarez not travelling to Norway with rest of the team. "Injured", they say of their official club-page. Could this be because of negotiations with Arsenal? Are we finally getting our major signing?

Neighter Rooney, or Bale, are travelling with their teams due to injury.

My prediction is:
Suarez-----> Arsenal
Rooney-----> Chelsea
Bale-----> Real Madrid.


Norwegian Gunner

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The old `not travelling due to thigh strain` yeh, if that's the case with those 3 players, its bad news for their current teams. Hopefully it means Suarez on the go and we can move on from this sorry drama.

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06 Aug 2013 16:48:51
suarez has not gone on tour with liverpool. hopefully that means we might be able to sign him soon.

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06 Aug 2013 16:31:42
Suarez out of Liverpool's tour with Norway with a "foot injury". Any chance of this being a cover up for an impending transfer?

Copthorne Gooner

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06 Aug 2013 16:00:13
Watching the emirates cup both days over the weekend I was both impressed and dissapointed with Arsenal in equal measure.

Positively

I felt we showed good ability to create chances and that several players have gained a little more expieriance and confidance in their ability. I also liked the english core of players that now runs through our team and its good to see Wilshere finally looking like getting back to full fitness.

Negatively

We lack denfensive stabilty which is caused by lack of protection in front of the back four. We are also a very tactically naive team who cannot seem to realise times in the game where we are vulnerable. A specialised DMM (defensive minded midfielder) whos sole purpose is to protect would go along way in our squad. Also I am alarmed by how Wenger seems to love the fullbacks to be ultra attacking to the point of it being detrimental. Attacking fullbacks are fine IF they can cross and IF we actually get bodies into the box.

I feel obviously we need 2 or 3 players but more than that the players need tactical help, the ability to realise the times within a game which they can attack and the times within a game that they need to be more cautious. The ability to read the ebbs and flows within a match is a skill within itself. The squad itself is good we just need a lift and a new perception on how things should be done.

PTG

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Quality points, definitely agree on the point about the full backs, a topic not brought up enough.

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{Ed027's Note - Non-registered users posts will slowly be removed from the site, so please register up to get your posts posted}

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06 Aug 2013 17:29:57
why ed? {Ed027's Note - so we can see how credible posters are, no name poster lose all creditability in there posts, and are usually fans from other pages, registered users cannot be impersonated which is a bit of a problem

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Prefer to be incredible.

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06 Aug 2013 15:50:27
I know people are starting to get impatient, but why would we clear out so many players if we were not going to replace them?

Yes, some youngsters are expected to step up, but our premier league squad can consist of 25 players over 21, so there are a lot of room still.

I expect 1-3 major signings, depends on suarez. And also a couple less big signings to give the squad some depth. I believe the signings will come late, as Wenger thinks the price is lower late in the window. Also we shuld be in the CL.

COY

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Come On You.?

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Gunners ofc, too quick on the trigger there

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Ha always is that's why he is not popular on here.

malaga gooner {Ed027's Note - register please

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06 Aug 2013 15:47:42
Hi eds

Any ideas of any progress in transfers this week, we must be in talks with someone.


I've just got this sneaky feeling cesc will be back with us. I don't know why I just think so {Ed027's Note - we have taken on a few lads on trial, I am really expecting a signing

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06 Aug 2013 15:32:43
If Wenger can not get Suarez I don't think he will attempt to buy another striker. Suarez is the only world class striker available, that is capable of dribbling and scoring goals.

I realy doubt we can get Suarez before our spot in the Champions League is secured though.

Rumours suggest Suarez will take the 40mill clause-case to the court if he must, as he believes Liverpool is legaly bound to sell him if a bid over 40mill is presented.

We will see.

COYG

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06 Aug 2013 15:23:56
I think we're all getting abit carried away here boys. Desperation has got the better of us all. Anyway to the point I was going to make.

I'm still convinced we will get top 4 regardless of happens, let's just think about it for a minute. Bale got the 24 points last season on his own. He's off to madrid we all know that. Regardless if they've signed paulinho and soldado there no way them 2 will get them 24 points on there own. Bale is irreplaceable, levy, AVB All know this it doesn't matter what the transfer fee is. I cannot see for the life off me that they will better last season points total. We've cleared so much off the wage bill that a few top signings will happen before sep 2. Have faith boys it's not all doom and gloom just yet. {Ed027's Note - register please

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Forgot to log in. My bad

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What you are saying here is: We are going to get less trouble finishing 4th this year?

I think you expect to little, Arsenal should be fighting for prizes. And Chelsea, United and City are improving.

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06 Aug 2013 15:14:23
Hi All Spurs Fan, what's your thoughts on the transfer window?

We have spent £49 million so far

Arsenal have spent £0

Are you still the biggest team in North London?

How can we spend so much & Arsenal 0

I really do not understand, Please put me in my place & shed some light on how this can happen

Reply with common seance answers, yes we are going to sell Bale that's Life, and NO he is not worth £86 million! If you are honest you must be pulling your hair out lol that's it for now have a good season. {Ed027's Note - I don't see how we aren't the biggest team in North London, there's nobody bigger than us lol, i'm not joking either

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I think you've spent well, on two players who were very good in their respective leagues.
Whilst I feel Paulinho will take a year to adapt, I don't feel Soldado will at all.

That's not bitterness, I love Soldado, I wish we'd of bought him, just for intent!
But I don't feel he's going to kick you up a gear.
The biggest, meanest, toughest defenders in la Liga last year (not best, just the aforementioned qualities) for me, we're Amorbeita, Pepe and Sergio Ramos.
Soldado did well in the league, against most teams, but when he's got the thugs like Shawcross, Huth, Terry, Vidi etc kicking seven shades out of him, how will he react?

Also, NO la Liga central defenders bar Ramos have a real turn of pace, not like Kompany, Luiz, Koscielny and even your own Verthongen can turn on.

Soldado's real talent lies in his ability as a poacher, he can lurk around the box and make something happen.

If you do keep Bale, you've then got a player who'll supply Soldado with crosses to meet, as well as link up with him.

If you sell Bale, you've lost your quality out wide.
Lennon offers nothing other than pace, and Chadili needs a season or two before he settles.

Unless we sign 2 key players for key areas, DM and Winger in my eyes, you'll push us close to the wire this season.
But we always have, and will have the mental edge.
Tottenham fans, players, board and staff all know that we just won't lose out to you in the league.

Not being cocky, but our mental strength (oh god, I sound like Arsene!) is impeccable!

North London is red my friend, and to be fair, if Abramovich hadn't whored Chelsea, London would just be our stomping ground.

D

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City have spent more then united I'd still say unite are the bigger team?

You've spent all that money and are still going to w challenging 4th we spent none and we are challenging 4th?

If we spent 50 odd m we'd be challenging title that's the major difference
Dan dan

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06 Aug 2013 15:38:56
1. To call yourself the biggest team in north london even before the season has been kicked off is ridiculous.
2. you obviously need to replace your whole team (bale) before next season, so that's the reason you spend big.
3. Arsenal has not spended yet, because we will sign world class players, and that kind of deals take time, also our spot in the CL is not secured, so that also has an impact.

You on the other side are secured spursday night football, so enjoy that.

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We are and always have been the biggest club in north london since our move from south years ago. Although we are going through a rough patch when was the last time you won the league? When was the last time you where in the champions league final?
Have u ever gone the whole season undefeated? and for the record you will never finish above us and haven't done in how many years. So dream on {Ed027's Note - register please

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Not only are Arsenal the Biggest Club in North London, until 1965 they were the ONLY club in North London.
Spuds were a Middlesex club until Toot was incorporated into the New London Borough of Haringey in 1965. In fact we have always been a London club. Twenty seven years in Woolwich and 100 in Islington! Makes you proud to be a real London Club, don't it! LOL. {Ed027's Note - register please

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Could you please stop with this silly banter. Why do you think you spent the money well?
Soldado is not good enough for a top4 side, no matter how much you'd like to believe, Spain rather plays without a striker than start him or they start torres
Paulinho is completely unproven, once we see him in action we can talk, Chadli, never heard of him
You can make arguements about money spent all you want, but sometimes 24m is enough (RvP) for a title, sometimes half a billion isn't.
I still hold my opinion that we strengthened this year by not selling any 1st players.
We still have time to spend, nothing would please me more than just buying suarez for those 50m and getting it done, if he flops he flops, or he can give us that push we need upfront. so please, stop with this big club thing, because right now, you aren't even close. Build a new stadium, get a global fanbase, get in the Cl then we will talk

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I'm sitting on the train with my brother. He bought €12 worth of snacks. I spent zero. He hasn't gotten any bigger.

He'd have to do a lot of eating to catch up to me.

Arsenal are 6ft2"
Spurs are 5ft6"

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Spending money equals biggest team? Go support PSG or City with such reasoning, I mean they spent the most so they are the biggest team now?

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At least went until the transfer window closes.

And even then spending doesn't necessarily mean anything- you have spend more than us in the last 10 years (fact), let a lone this window and yet we've finished in a higher league position- are you sure you can gloat?

Besides, If you're a big club you would have to won the league at least once in the last 50 years.

So perhaps come back when you have a league title as well.

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Will talk common séance only with the deceased.

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Firstly, admitting you're a spud is always brave in public, so fair play.

Secondly, you need to spend loads of money because you are so cr*p.

Blah blah blah, if spending money is all you have to boast about them go support a real team.

Lastly, if monkey boy goes you will need to spend double what you get for him, people used to call us a one man team with RVP, but nobody can even remember any of your other players names because you're such a one man team.

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I think it's up to you to convince us your the bigger club. You have spent more then us for quite a few years and where's it got you? Below us.
You pray every year for Champions league.
Us - tick
You want to build a state of the art stadium.
Us - tick
You want to win the premier league.
Us - tick tick tick

You've won the league twice in your whole existance.

We've won it 13 times. Twice at your place.

Come on fella, you can do better then this surely?
Flybo

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Yes mate your correct we have not spent anything yet lol lol that's the only valid thing your statement says It would be pointless arguing with you my friend just look at the facts of the lpremiership since it started and answer this Have you ever one it and how many times have you finished higher then us ok mate you best go back to your own site bye

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So you spend Money. Good for you spuddies! Spend that Bale money before he is sold, I do hope you are unable to sell him and when you miss out on CL, yet again, I will enjoy the "firesale" to keep the club going.

Maybe you can take out a mortage on s**** Hart Lane when the numbers shines red? Top, top quality cesspit in a great surrounding where the people arange outdoor activities like setting their neighborhoud on fire. Great part of London Tottenham is, a great part.

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06 Aug 2013 17:11:12
I think the Forbes rich list, size of ground, 13 league titles, constantly higher league position. We've had Henry, Pires, Bergkamp, Viera, Petit, Fabregas, RVP etc and you on the other hand have had Bale.

You are quite simply another team in North London who have recently performed on a par with Newcatle or Everton.

When you genuinely have something to crow about, or in your case, chicken on a football, pop back and give it some.

Stoner

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06 Aug 2013 15:12:00
I am confused, when you hear that we have made no offer for Bernard, Ginter and Williams - ever- to name a few and then everyone gets upset that we have not signed them it makes no sense. How many fake bids are reported out there? Le Prof is clearly very discreet and we don't really know what he has been up to aside from Suarez and Higuain.

For sure he will not sign a keeper, probably not a right back - thankfully Sagna is back to form, no DM because let's face it he is grooming Ramsey to replace Arteta, no AM because he likes Rosicky behind Cazorla and Wilshire.

I would suggest 1 star striker, a CB and maybe one more offensive player tops - but I am fine with that because I have the good fortune to both support our team and actually like our players. Peace ;-)))

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CB, DM and Winger, that's what we need,
Seriously,

Allow Walcott to play as a striker, along with Giroud and Podolski, giving us 3 international strikers who all scored over ten last season, two of whom on their debut year, and one from the Wing!
Use Poldi and Giroud as central strikers, Walcott out right, cutting in to play off Giroud, or being out centrally and Giroud taken off for a wide player.

CB, we need for obvious reasons, depth and injuries, I'd LOVE Alderweirled, but I'd take Williams, Zouma, Sakho or Kara to be honest, versatile (bat Williams) CB's who could play 4th choice this season, and take the reins if super Tommy V starts to decline this season again (though I expect the big man to return to full strength this season)

DM, Kondogbia certainly isn't the one yet, not by himself anyway.
Fellaini, Medel, Capoue, Diame would all do for me, some more than others, but I'd take some muscle in any form right now!

But I just really feel a quality winger to supply Giroud would make all the difference!
Di Maria should be priority if spurs sell the PG tips monkey.
If not, then I'd Love Munian, El Sharawaay, Reus or that Ilk, but don't see them as realistic.

To be fair, Griezmann, would be too notch I reckon!

Just opinion!

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06 Aug 2013 14:57:28
Lets be clear I don't ant Wenger to go, yes to change his stubborn stance a little but leave no. However in terms of his departure and who would replace him I feel there are at least 10 top level coaches who play football in the style and flair we have made famous. Some of these coaches even believe it or not organise a defence, understanding that great attacking is born from great defending. So please do continue Mr Wenger but let Bould do the defence and spend time sorting them out.


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06 Aug 2013 15:20:30
look at that guy Gary white, who is only one of about 20 people on the planet who has the elite coaching degree, and who can't get a job in England. why can't a guy like that become a coach of some description with us?
I know he isn't going to manage but what a waste with his qualifications if he can't get a job here, and he's English. mind baffles {Ed027's Note - register please

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Why sign off twice?

Just noticed a lot of people do it. {Ed027's Note - they probably don't know that there registered name will appear below automatically

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06 Aug 2013 14:02:47
Now that Gervinho has gone miyachi and ox will step up

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06 Aug 2013 13:25:54
Be careful what you wish for. Yes we all want Arsene to invest and strengthen the team. Yes there is no doubt without real action 4th place is our only ambition. But.

Let's just stop and look at what others have been doing while we curse Arsene for wasting money on players that javen't made it and cost th odd million here and there.

City bought Robinho, Tevez, Adebayor, and Nasri. None fulfilled anything like their supposed potential £110m badly spent between them.

Chelski? Torres, Shevchenko, Wright- Phillips all a waste of money. Price tag - £105m.

United - well we know Ferguson never bought duds don't we? Berbatov, Veron, Anderson, Nani and Hargreaves. Oh and £113m gone forever.


Liverpool? - Carroll, Keane, Downing, Aquilani, Henderson, and Allen - wow £171m blown away.

Spuds - Bent, Bentley, Pavlyuchenko, and Rebrov - a healthy £59m messed away. They look good though don't they against the big four wasters.

Arsenal - Reyes and Jeffers - £28m! Even if you were unfair (and I accept Tevez at City is a bit harsh) and include Arshavin the total is still only £43m.

The moral of the story? Signing big doesn't mean success, oh and maybe Arsene is better than we sometimes like to think at this transfer business.

Yes I want us to sign but.


The Ghost of Terry Mancini

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Fair point but a lot of the people you have mentioned are one season wonders or came from different leagues. Premiership is a steep learning curve. Suarez is proven in this league for a number of years.

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Yeah but a lot of the players on that list were really badly bought most people thought a large amount of them would flop. I want Arsenal to spend money but obviously not like that that. And they won't.

Suarez is different to Torres and Adebayour they can't be compared. {Ed027's Note - register please

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Surely the point is how many duds to sucsesses you sign - you can't make a judgement based on one side of the equation. {Ed027's Note - register please

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What are you saying - Wenger buys well?
We have just lost a lot of money letting Arshavin and Santos go for very little money. Arshavin was played out of position and wasted, and Santos was not good enough. I'm not going to list everyone but Schillachi, Park, Chamakh, etc - all very poor buys by Wenger.
Most of the players mentioned above would have improved Arsenal as we have such a bare bones and poor squad anyway.
Why are people still defending Wenger and the board? I just don't get it. Been going backwards for 9 years {Ed027's Note - register please

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3 of those teams have actually won something in the past 8 years, while Wenger is far from innocent with his numerous below par purchases.

Conor {Ed027's Note - register your name please Conor

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Totaly agree, the reason we actualy have the money to spend big this summer is because we have been careful and cleaver with our signings earlier.

Now we can afford prooven world class, wich I hope and believe we will get.

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Fair point this is only one side of the coin so let's look at the top ten expensive signings b the 'top clubs' to see the successes.

City - Aguero £38m, Toure £24m and Silva at £24m to be the successes but only Silva is worth more than he cost. Three out of nine (not counting Fernandinho) success rate.

Chelski - Hazard and Mata possibly but one season so can't count Them yet. Essen £24m, Drogba £24m, and Luiz
£21m. At a guess 5 out of 10 worth the
money.

United - Ferdinand £30m, Rooney £27m, RVP £24m, Van Nistelrooy £19m, and Carrick £19m. So same as Chelski 5 out of ten.

Liverpool - Suarez £32m, Torres £20m, oh and that's it. A terrible 2 out of ten.

Spuds - Modric £15m and Defoe £15m are the only obvious successes. The trouble being four of the big signings have been in the last 12 months so too
soon to judge. That gives a 2 out of 6. But fair point less successful than seen the other way.

Arsenal? Oxlade - Chamberlain £15m seems a reasonable success, Wiltord £13m seems no doubt, Nasri £12m well we doubled our money so yes, Eduardo £12m I'd say success not his or the clubs fault his career was so badly set off track, and Hleb a success and cheap at £10m. I've left Santi out as it's his first season. I kind of think Van Bronckhorst at £9m was neither a great success or a failure. So that gives us 5 out of 8. Hmm the best success rate!

I had no idea what the outcome was going to be when I set out doing this response by the way. But which ever way you look it does look better than I expected for Arsene.

I want to be clear - I want Arsenal to sign and sign well- I am just cautious about spending being the answer. Liverpool prove it s not.

Suarez is worth £40m and even though I dislike him at many levels I would never argue he would make a real difference. My concern has always been - I don't think he alone is enough - and I worry all eggs are in one volatile basket.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

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06 Aug 2013 13:20:54
I think I've discovered what is wrong with our club regarding transfer business and why we never sign anyone while other clubs can.

The following is an extract from an article regarding the brazillian Bernard, who is looking increasingly unlikely to join us:

!The Brazil international has previously been linked with a switch to England, with Tottenham and Arsenal strongly interested.

However, Atletico president Alexandre Kalil has revealed both Premier League sides failed with their bids and that Shakhtar are the only side to have met his asking price.

"Tottenham made an offer of �18 million [£15.7m] for Bernard, but they withdrew, " he told Radio Itatiaia.

"Arsenal told us that they would bid, but never did. So what we have now is a �25m [£21.8m] bid from Shakhtar. "!

There it is, the magic words. ARSENAL TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD BID BUT NEVER DID!

Im not versed in Law, a football agent or have ever been involved in the transfer of stock from one company to another, yet even I can see that IF WE WANT THE PLAYER WE MUST MAKE AN OFFER!

It's like me offering a friend a lift in my car, we can both get into the car and buckle our seatbelts BUT IF I don't START DRIVING WE ARE GOING F**KN NOWHERE

The clubs out to sea at the minute without the strong wind of change to blow us in the right direction and although I myself am trying to keep the faith with the current leadership. I can understand why others are starting to mutiny

Peace

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06 Aug 2013 12:34:34
Anyone think that possibly Gervinho to Roma, could not be part of the deal but an agreement for us to sign Lamela in return?

Mark

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LOL OMFG
Now they will sell you Bradley Johnson and have an agreement to sign Wilshere.

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Navjyot put it well.
Selling a player to a club, generally does not affect them selling a player to you in return. If it did it would be part of a swap deal.
The fact we sold RVP to United doesn't mean it was a deal to get Rooney this year, for example.
Clutching at straws Mark and I don't blame you for a second, but I highly doubt that even crossed the minds of the men involved.

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06 Aug 2013 04:49:42
Eds. Can anyone tell me who would be the quality and I mean! Quality signings that are still available for us to go after with a price tag of between £30 and £45 million. EXCEPT FOR ROONEY PLEASE!
The other point I would like to make is WHY! do we always struggle in the transfer window? {Ed027's Note - Suarez

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06 Aug 2013 13:07:56
morning lads. anyone got any gossip? this just far too quiet!

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Jessie is prego and doesn't no who the father is. Davey thinks it's his but he's not owning up, niether is Sean and Mark is in love with Jess so he wants it to be his to lock her in. But she told me she never meant to sleep with him it was just a drunken mistake. Gavin is also in contention but is likely to battle out for fourth with JP.

Anyone have Jeremy Kyles number?

Oh ya Suarez won't be coming : (

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I think you're right mate, wenger thinks into areas that not many other managers would think of. Him keeping signings secretive will give him a boost for the start of the season. He'd unleash players that no one would have even studied.

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06 Aug 2013 12:37:51
Hi

Who said we wanted to have say in business. you crazy due, you r the only Gooners who besides signing or no signing watch AFC. You r wrong mate. We also watch, no matter what, but let's face it with so many players gone (27, I think and still counting) we r short, very short of players. AW every season says we r trying hard to get players, if they were trying they should have bought any one of the top players. The truth is wenger does not want to do overspending. yes correct but when the market is like that you have to let go 5-6 million more than his expectations. Well this is not the late 90 s, how many top quality strikers are there? not much therefore less supply, but more demand leads to inflated prices. We pay avg. 30-60 pounds + conveyance + food + sometimes bet to watch arsenal, we can win trophies but what do we get. no trophy in 8 yrs. Therefore we have the every right to speak up as fans and well wishers for AFC. We r not saying spend like Cfc, rm, Barca, man city, (we can't), but atleast buy some players who can help us win. 2-3 players would do. why wait so long and buy nothing (oh yes. yaya, may be Capracia as well, both free). (By the way please let me know who scouted park-chi-choo-yoong, someone must be given the best scouting medal to him) they could have selected from Gooners.

This is not about not supporting the club, this actually more about our love and passion for the club, we want some good signings. when he will. sign on 2nd September? other clubs r foolish they have already signed players and looking for more.

you know what kills me freaking spurs have signed 2 top quality players already. when most clubs from the day season ended and till date how many players they have managed to sign (2 -3). and AW will sign 4 players in less than a month. somehow it does not fit right, or may be he already done the deals and will announce 3-4 days before Epl starts so that others won't have enough time to look at our new players ( I know I am being ridiculous), but these theories help me. to be positive and hopefully we will sign.

also our own players have spoken about. we need 3-4 players quite frequently in the media ( 8 times - koscielny, arteta twice, jw, sagna, giroud, theo, bfg). Never before so many players of ours have talked abt the need of getting new players. (8 times by different key players). this means something; if we don't get them, most of our top players will leave. jw, santi, koscielny, theo, now even giroud have been linked with different clubs this year or last year. But AW needs to get not only new players but atleast 2 world class players). I don't want our beloved club

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This just has to be read "in a Russian accent", absolutely hilarious!

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06 Aug 2013 12:22:01
Arsenal are said to be battling Tottenham for the signing of Alvaro vadillo, who has been dubbed "the new ronaldo"

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06 Aug 2013 11:17:41
I like it when th eds take part in Discussions, post their thoughts, comment wit humour. It makes th website more fun & interestin.

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06 Aug 2013 11:44:38
I am not sure whether getting rid of AW is the right thing to do. He is a legend who has changed not only the face of AFC but footballing around the world but I think its time we stopped thinking of the club as a money making business and concentrate on making us a power in europe again.

We seem to be happy with 4th place in the EPL and if we make a final along the way then even better.

We came out and said we have a £70m+ transfer kitty and can buy and pay some of the biggest stars in the world but so far an injury prone 20yr old French striker.


We need to show we mean business and for the last 8 years that simply has not been the case.

Other teams (Swansea, Norwich & Spurs) have bought players in during the early weeks of the transfer window and thus giving the players time to bed in. I can one of two things happening :

1/ Lots of last day transfers giving them no time to bed in before and taking time to settle.
2/ No transfer happening and AW saying we tried but due to reasons we never completed any deals.

I am long time Gooner back to 1971 watching Charlie George score in the FA cup against LFC and have supported through thick and thin and will continue to do so but I think its time the board and AW take a long hard look at what the fans are saying and come out and explain what they want for the club.

In AW I trust but my loyalty in wavering

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Wenger has clearly let the pack ahead go away.

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I first went to Highbury in71 as well, ah great times, I moved on from Wenger after the man u game, can't forgive him for that sorry.

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Yater,

So you can't forgive that one match? Can I take it you don't share the cups and great teams he gave us too? Obviously a 'fan' who sets everything on one abhorrent game clearly wouldn't have double standards as to take the great bu not the bad?

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

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Yes I do but come on when your times up its up, move on gracefully

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06 Aug 2013 10:51:53
Why are we so concerned abiura a striker I think wel William babele no real problems up front ora the defence that worrys me

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Post of the month! Agreed with every word, even when reading it backwards (which helped make it slightly more intelligible)!

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Tried typing it in to an online translator, but it said 'language unrecognised'

Thats hilarious!

337

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06 Aug 2013 10:50:32
Guys, gals and of course EDs I have to believe that we will buy players. My reasoning for this is simple the squad is now paper thin after the many departures, including some first team shocks I. e gerviniho. I know he wasn't the best but his pace and directness created problems for the opposition in the final third of a game.
I think we have to some irons in the fire cause if not then this will be our worst season ever given no new signings and still the glaring weaknesses. Here's hoping come on AW do the right thing.

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06 Aug 2013 10:50:15
Talk Sport Just announced that Rooney was seen leaving AW home.

Have no idea why it would be announced on the radio so there could be some truth in this.

Personally I think he would fantastic for the club as he is not afraid to shoot.

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Are you sure they weren't just having a joke?

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Could be movement at last, good player who needs a new challenge

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Talksh1t radio is seriously Anti Arsenal so assume everything about Arsenal is a joke.

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06 Aug 2013 10:40:17
Gervinhio out surely means a forward is coming in? Coquelain loan and Diaby injury surely means a CDM is coming in? Djourou out and Vermaelen injury surely means a CB is coming in?

Is Wenger keeping his Cards close to his chest or does he genuinely believe we have a strong enough squad? We are a couple injuries away from relying on untested youth such as Miquel, Bellerin, Sanogo etc.

City, Chelsea and Spurs all improving whilst we have not progressed. With this squad getting CL will be just as tough as last year. Even with Suarez our squad is too thin and we'd only get 3rd/4th.

Btw Ed I will register as soon as I return from holiday :)

Detroit Gooner

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Spurs may have improved? Soladro and Paulinho (Spelling) unproven in Prem, but they have lost or loosing Dempsey, Caulker, Defoe, Avabarndoor and possibly the Baboon, so? {Ed027's Note - register please

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06 Aug 2013 10:34:49
Let's keep this civil, I believe wengers time has come to move upstairs, he is increasingly sounding like he is losing the plot, refusing to strengthen when ALL our senior players are calling for help, has let 20 yes 20player go, we are down to the bare bones and it look like another tough fight for 4th place, it could have been so different

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Window hasn't closed, and i'm sure, like me, you were one of the people begging for AW to let all these deadwood players go and replace them with quality/quality depth
don't be so quick to judge
AW still has atleast 3 weeks to do something

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06 Aug 2013 10:24:38
Do any of our boo supporters ever stop to think if a potential signing was to view this page, what he would think of all our very loyal fans who complain all the time?

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06 Aug 2013 09:46:15
Is Malaga Gooner aka Kev the Psychic chicken back from his vacation yet? I miss his predictions. because I know whatever he predicts won't come true so I can eliminate our targets that way

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No still on holiday though the latest rumor is his been in talks with AW and will be announced as our official correspondence. Person. For the dealings of transfers.
Don't. Forget. You heard it hear first lmao

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06 Aug 2013 09:39:50
Was there a link to Lamela as a possible alternative to Suarez? If so does ayone know where this originated.
Thanks.

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06 Aug 2013 09:30:39
I understand to a certain degree we need to re enforce certain parts of the team, but the situation isn't as terminal as people think. We've got a month left and we need a back up defender and another striker. We don't need a GK or midfielder, more than strong enough in those positions. People just need to lay of Wenger. Your just acting like a bunch of brats begging your father for an expensive Xmas present, when all your toys are more or less good enough

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Nice mate, people use this site to express their feelings, and they have every right to vent a little. But of course you have the divine right to insult those you don't agree with. Who said you opinion was correct or even worth considering? Havent even got the cohonas to sign off. Troll.

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06 Aug 2013 08:44:58
Btw all these Wenger out brigade. Who do want to replace him with?
Oh yes it's difficult isn't it.

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Any top manager, such as Laudrup, could replace Wenger and given the resources available, which Wenger clearly refuses to use, then 4th place would be achievable for any quality manager. I still believe Wenger has many qualities, but since Dein & Fiszman departed, he has been relatively unsuccessful, not winning a trophy and has made some poor decisions, such as his 'Socialist' wage policy. Selling top players, whose contracts were allowed to run down and stubbornly refused to invest in top quality experienced players. I am being patient during the window, but I would be extremely surprised if he buys the 5 experienced players the squad clearly lacks. I would love to see:
Begovic
Williams
Fellaini
Nani
Suarez

We would then have a squad capable of competing for honours. don't forget, we didn't beat any of the 3 teams above us last season, as far as I can recall and the current squad isn't strong enough to beat any of them this season. One could argue that the squad is weaker, with players departed or departing that played some part last season.

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Jurgen Klopp

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Mr low from Germany please.

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I agree with you that we owe a lot to wenger and as it stands I will back him to the hilts but if he were to leave I can think of three suitable replacements

Jürgen Klopp
Jupp Heynckes
Michael Laudrup

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Klopp

Easy

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Jurgen Klopp or Michael Laudrup. Would be my two top choices.

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I would give him this year and then go for Klopp or Laudrup

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The crap about who is available is just that, crap.
You don't sign every player on a free (No Arsenal jokes please) You decide who you want and you go get him.
There are very few managers in the world, that would reject the Arsenal job if you gave them Wengers wages and promised them £70million to spend on players.
Jürgen Klopp would be fantastic. After this year, I think Laudrup will be ready to step up to a top club. Joachim Loew could be an option, bringing in Frank De Boer and Bergkamp would be amazing. Marcello Lippi is currently managing in China, so is definitely "available" and comes with a great track record. Otmar Hitzfield and Fatih Terim are both managers that go largely unnoticed but could do a good job. Jupp Heynckes is currently out of the job after the most successful season any manager has had in a long time.
Then take in to account the fact that Pep Guardiola's first job was the Barca job, I'd say he did OK.
Wenger is a great manager, few could do what he has done with the resources he has used. The problem is, he has resources available and isn't spending them.
Maybe you don't love all those managers, I mentioned many to give an idea of those that could step up to the plate to manage our great club.

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Jurgen Klopp

Plymouth Gooner

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Malaga gooner for me!

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Good chices there by HassanAFC

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06 Aug 2013 08:42:38
We owe everything to Wenger, so people really need to step back and look at themselves. Stop behaving like spoilt little children. I'd happily give him another 8 years.

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No one is bigger than the club they represent, we are falling back into the pack and need reinforcing asap, so yes I do think wengers had his time, bring in a new manager to move the club on. Sorry but can't see any way out of the currant situation we are in, how can you let 20 players out, no matter how bad they are and not replace them, not that is bad planning 10days out from the start, not forgetting we play the spurs before the window closes, not a great prospect in out currant line up

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Another 8 years of scraping 4th. You are as deluded as Wenger how could you put up with his lies and statements like we could challenge without additions. His days are number if he doesn't make good signings. The man has lost it completely I no longer have faith in him. Yes we owe him a lot but you can't live of past glories forever.

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That because you support the business that is arsenal and not the football club!
we don't owe him anything! us the fans pay him £8m per year to win nothing. and spend nothing. I want to see us win trophies. and I don't think i'm alone.
papey

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And not win anything for another 8 years?

Plymouth Gooner

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Who are you to call us spoilt kids? Jump off wengers nut sack! Yes he's done well given our current financial status and our new stadium. But he's still reluctant to spend money on players we desperately need! What's the point in being financially viable and having a trophy winning teams stadium? Sw18

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So Mr wengerism do you get the point. Yes. move on from wenger. Any manager with our resources can compete for 1to3 place not this endless 4th place battle

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I've been here for 30 years. If anything Wenger owes me for his huge wage and the trust the club and supporters have put in him. It is ARSENAL FC not Arsene FC FFS.

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06 Aug 2013 08:15:55
Floating on Manchester United rumors page someone claiming they spoke to a journo in Spain bout Cesc apparently his keen for a move to the Reds if they offer a big enough deal. Don't think this is true could it?.

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Money talks he'll go if they pay him enough, don't expect any loyalty any more

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For gods sake no, it's not. the only thing he has said is that he doesn't say anything, even to close friends and family

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If you believe everything mentioned on this rumour website you would be wondering why both Rooney and Suarez don't now lead our line with Cesc and Fellaini supporting them.
Cesc isn't going to leave Barca, if he does the only place he is going is home.

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No just think that Manics really want it. If anything it's more the silence or recycled news worded different. Just wanted to get thoughts on this.

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06 Aug 2013 08:08:57
If I were manager and looking at players to buy, I'd start with the core of the team.
Cesar would be a good bargain as experienced and a decent keeper.
Hummells of Dortmund
Shawcross from stoke
Chiellini from juventus
These could all play with koscielny.
Midfield, fellaini would add some much need presence/height in there since we lost vieira, Gilberto, edu, and petit and never replaced them.
Strikers are the problem, Darren bent would be a cheap option but not the answer.
For me Suarez isn't the answer as too disruptive in the club and would cause problems for us like he has at Liverpool.
Torres is past his best
Rooney would be a good buy as he needs a new challenge and maybe could be convinced since he's not the main man at Manchester United since they took rvp from us.
Huntelaar would be a good buy as proved in the cl against us last season.
This is my opinion alone and feel we need to strengthen the spine of the team and then we may get back to winning trophies again.

Sd76

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In an ideal transfer window we need to get rid of the deadwood fans who boo their own players and manager. And replace them with the loyal die hard fans we were once famed for having.

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06 Aug 2013 10:38:21
I stopped reading after you suggested Shawcross!

AlexDP

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Cesar is not a bargain as he is on massive wages, Shawcross is a thug, Bent wasn't good enough for spurs.

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The thought of the thug that is Ryan Shawcross in a Arsenal shirt makes me shudder. No thanks.

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Crawl back into your hole "Wengerism". You aren't a shareholder in the club by any chance are you?

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06 Aug 2013 07:56:32
Hi Gooners

Guys yesterday was watching Fox Sports and there was this news regarding Roberto Solgado signed for Spuds. They compared his conversion rate with other Epl strikers (RVP, suarez, Rooney, ba, torres, bale etc. ). this guy has the best conversion rate than any strikers currently in EPL. 27% was his stat even better than Suarez, bale and RVP ( who had 23%). They have spent 50 million for pauliniho and Solgado plus this 50 million is from player sales including selling caulker and Dempsey. Arsene wenger please sign some top players before its too late. Capracia, is fine but only if he is to add depth in the squad.

We want to win UCL. its really bad considering Arsenal history we have not won UCL. Even Notiggaham Forest have won European Cup, we deserve better. but for that we need depth and 4 (atleast). quality world class players. signing youngsters is fine, I understand you build them and then sell them for a nice healthy profit. But, don't. forget regarding our current mission to win trophies, for that we need players like suarez, cabella, arda turan, cesc fabregas, and yes most important a top quality experienced goalkeeper like cesar.


Hope you atleast listen to us this time. by the way we have money and and no way we can'rt afford players of world class quality.
also one thing, buy kaka. coming back to his best after injured so long. we can afford Rooney surely we can afford kaka. also if negotiated well might take a pay cut for regular first team football.

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You can't compare his conversion rate in Spain to here, are you aware of the difference between our two leagues. Get real mate, it's incomparable!

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We will see how he settles in to the EPL, It is very different to any other league, don't panic. They've only spent the money because monkey boy is leaving.

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If we wanted a striker with a high conversion rate then we should of pushed through the Higuain deal

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06 Aug 2013 05:59:31
Becoming increasingly fed up with all the bashing of the manager and the Team. If no one thinks they are good enough and keeps booing them then of course we will be on a downward spiral.
As fans we are the extra player and we should support the team and manager regardless, apart from last summer when has Wenger ever done business in transfer markets early?
Last year he made 4 good signings and i'm happy to see us not paying over the odds for players that perform no better than anyone in our current squad.

Regardless of signings I will still watch every game as a fan and not like I have some rite or say in what Arsenal FC do or how they run their business.
You don't go into a car showroom buy a car and then over the years buy some of their merchandise and expect to have a say in how they run their business.

Lahori Gooner

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Very well said my friend. Please expect some abuse for your wise words. Some people just don't get it.

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I note your comments, but understand fellow fans frustrations, although I would never ever boo my team. The frustration is born out of the fact that the squad is extremely weak numerically to compete in the four competitions.
As for your car example, one can vote with their feet and change car manufacturer. If enough customers do the same, the manufacturer would have to change. Indeed, car manufacturers carry out marketing surveys to ascertain what their customers want. Football is different, as fans are loyal.

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Ok I will make it simple, we struggled into 4th last year, we have shifted 20players out we are now weaker compared to the end of last season, the players are crying out fir New faces, no one coming in. and you still think the manager is right?

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I agree booing the team increases negativety but bashing the manager is fine he deserves it at the moment.

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Y21 - struggled to 4th are you kidding - what was our record the second half of the season. We struggled to get started because we lost players, but we finished strong like a bull - hardly struggling!

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06 Aug 2013 03:28:46
Hey Ed, any chance you can throw this up a few times or keep up the top so everyone can get involved?

I'm all set and booked up for the Q&A at the arsenal members day and been told that Wenger will be there.

The few questions you guys have asked me to asked are :

"How does arteta's hair always look so perfect "

Yada yada

Anyway got my dictaphone sorted and a book ready so I can bring back some words for all you guys and review the day and Q&A for you.

So any questions you want me to ask?

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Who will be our next manager?

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Well he's not going to answer any of the questions we really want the answer to, transfers, takeovers and the like, but what about whether there really is the possibility of expanding the stadium capacity, or the desire to do it? Thanks.

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Ask wenger if he can rap?

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Does Wenger think we would have challenged for titles if we had signed Paulinho, Chadli and Soldado for the price of what we might end up paying for Suarez? And how did we not compete for these three players in such a "slow" market according to Wenger.

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Good one Willesden! Gazidis said it would be hard to increase the capacity of the stadium but that seems daft to me. Why build a new stadium without the possibility to expand? Surely the aim for any club would be to attract higher audiences and generate a higher match day Revenues.

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06 Aug 2013 14:02:34
1. Does he feel he is in touch with the fans and holds any kind of affiliation to us.

2. Does he understand how some fans feel about him as in want him out and are they right to feel that way?

3. Does he want to win the Champions league with Arsenal.

4. Would he ensure Cesc came home rather than to Utd.

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06 Aug 2013 01:30:01
I hope to god these Torres rumours are load of ****! He's been on a severe decline for years if this is wengers master stroke then he needs to find his own stroke across the channel!

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Valley-Gooner,

As good as a point you provide, I am at a point where Fernando Torres would be welcomed! It's gotten that bad - it's a shame because for Liverpool he was outstanding but the switch to Chelsea has KILLED his football.

Hell. I would even settle for Defoe.

Lacklustre.

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Torres would be alright as long as spend Suarez money on bender or pogba instead along with defender and GK and we will be a decent side again, defensive mid fielder of quality is needed more than strikers in my opinion. And I did predict Torres weeks ago

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I believe if you were to ask any Lfc fan they will say that Torres was in decline for his last 12 - 18 months at the club.

His decline did not just surface at Chelsea

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06 Aug 2013 01:18:09
Everyone saying "Wenger out" wil b shouting "In Wenger we trust". Mark my words. Too soon 2 judge.

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Agreed, I much prefer the way we are run compared to most teams. Every season someone is after Arsene, he stays loyal to us and we should do the same for him. If in 4 weeks we have no new signings then so be it. can't wait to see this young team who have now got some good playing time together under their belt kick up a storm.

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06 Aug 2013 08:28:39
I agree with you

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I am one of those guilty of screaming Wenger out, but if he gives me reason to believe in him again, then no doubt I will change my stance. As of now, I have no belief

In Arsenal I trust, with or without Wenger!

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Are you sure. 8 years and counting

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100% agree with you Nam Gooner

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Sorry guy but should have been sack after the man u debacle, very weak leadership at our club sorry but now he must be replaced, maybe Mr low German manager, but wengers time is up

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Arsene isn't stupid everyone, he was able 2 maintain Arsenal in top 4 wit a low budget while Liverpool etc were spendin cash (more than us) but couldn't go above us. Imagin him now that he has money, & yeah its takin damn long.

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Not me, I've been consistently Wenger out for at least 3 seasons now (not counting the one about to begin). Every manager has a sell by date, and Wenger is long passed his. He has failed to adapt to changing styles of play, tactics, training methods and refuses to listen to anybody.

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06 Aug 2013 00:36:26
Heard anything about Victor Andrade from Santos Ed?

Apparently Arsenal and Chelsea are interested.

PS. I know absolutely nothing of him. {Ed027's Note - nor me mate, but I have heard we will be 'more careful' when bringing in kids outside from Europe, as the procedure of loaning them out and waiting for a permit takes to long and I some cases maybe most is pointless. Botelho never kicked a ball for us and he's gone, Galindo will leave, Joel Campbell Cost Rica's big hope will also be sold in the future, the idea of no being able to have the kids for a few years straight is not looked up upon, there progressed is some times hindered abroad

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I agree. Seems pretty pointless. You'd think they could come up with a better work permit system than the current one though.

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05 Aug 2013 23:44:14
Hi everyone, I just want everyones overall opinion on what we need to strengthen this year, so for me I say we need a new right back, in the quality of abate or someone of high standard as sagna is loosing the speed to get up and down the pitch as we saw on the man. u game at home when he gave the pen away, and convert sagna into a cb as he is very good at heading and has good pace for a cb, and I personally believe mertesacker is no good, he is not composed on the ball and panics too much as is extremely slow and can't recover from bad situations, koscielny and vermealen are excellent on their day and I believe that partnership can get us far, however we could do with a new cb like mangala, who is amazing strong face and would cost similar to ashley williams however is younger and in my opinion better to play alongside sagna and koscielny as they are french, and our left back position is sorted, so basically to have a good defence we need a right back of first team quality and a cb who is quite young but not too young and has shown quality, and I personally believe szczesny is a very good gk and should be our no1 gk, but good competition won't do him any harm so cesar would be a good addition as well, so to sort our defence we spend £10-15m new RB, £10m new CB, £5m GK, that's £30million and we would have a strong defence and we could even sell mertesacker to make some money back (but realistically AW isint going to sell him any time soon). Now in midfield this is what we need, we need someone to play Defensive midfield, someone in the quality of pogba, which would cost £15-20m, and then we sign bernard to play LW because let's face it podolski is quality however he is no good on the left as he cuts in most of the time and stays centeral alot, and bernard would cost £20m so that's £70million spend in total and I know we haven't got a quality top striker like we wanted however Giroud is capable of scoring at least 20 goals. and I just want to say PLEASE WENGER PLAY SANTI IN THE MIDDLE, his less effective on the left. By the way i'm a arsenal fan that never missed a single game last season, so please don't send abuse, just tell me if you agree with me on the changes. LINE UP. szczesny, ABATE, koscielny, vermaelen, gibbs, POGBA (CDM), wilshere (CM), cazorla (CAM), walcott (RW), BERNARD (LW), giroud (ST). thanks Ramin1994

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I agree with you, moving sagna to cb with koscielny, and then having abate at RB, could be a recipe for great success. but also it could be awful. mertesacker is often a liability, but then he is also often a great source of joy from set piece attacking/defending.
pogba is totally out of arsenals range, but to find someone as dominant in the middle would be a huge plus for us. bernard is decent, but i'd really like to see arsenal play with proper wingers, and not people who always want to come inside.
valencia at utd for me is one of the best players in the league, and most effective at just charging up and down the flanks.

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Paragraphs. They are beautiful things my friend.
I would definitely bring in Cesar, even if it means Szczesny stays as first choice, at least he realises I need to knuckle down because I have competition. If he doesn't put in top performances then drop him for Cesar.
Sagna had a difficult season last season and Jenkinson is improving, neither are amazing but there are more important area's to strengthen so its not an area I would improve until other areas are sorted.
Everybody love Mert until the Emirates Cup, he like every player was jet lagged, the difference being he played 2 games in 2 days. He is decent, his partnership with Kos is good, whereas Vermaelen looked poor last season.
I would instead sign a new first choice CB to partner Kos.
We need a holding mid, preferably Fellaini or Bender, Pogba would be nice but I want experienced, proven players. Would not say no to Pogba though!
We definitely need a LW, I think the Ox will step up this season, and he has to, otherwise we are in serious trouble. But I would rather we don't put too much pressure on the lads shoulders and signed a LW. Sanchez would be nice, as would Bernard. Unlike other fans I would take Nani, on his day he is unplayable. If you could get come consistency you would have a great player on your hands.
Upfront, Giroud has looked quality and deserves his chance, that said, he is our only CF and we need another striker. It has to be a proven striker, preferably one that can play with Giroud if we want to switch it up, or lead the line on his own, Suarez would be perfect.
You gave a line up, I'll give one to.
Cesar, Sagna, Koscielny, Williams, Monreal, Fellaini, Cazorla, Wilshere, Walcott, Sanchez, Suarez. (4-3-3)

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If I had it my way I'd play 4-3-1-2 I'd replace Shezza with the likes of Ter Stegen, get a nice CB to replace Per mertersacker, I'd move Walcott to behind the strikers and chamberlain out right

I find Walcott to be a very selfish player, even with his assists he could all but double that tally if he passed a bit more. So I'd give him a more selfish role.

Chamberlain drifts to the left.

I think we are fine in midfield but haven't found the right mix. Stick giroud up front with a new striker

And we will be laughing, 3 signings and we will be fine.

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I know you mean well sir, but anyone who does not put Arteta in the lineup as one of top 3-4 chosen has not looked at the record of W-L's - we have a hard time when he's out. I cannot believe the disrespect that guy gets and for 2 years he has been big part of keeping us in CL. Peace

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