Arsenal Banter Archive August 06 2016

06 Aug 2016 16:54:24
Is everybody in agreement that any signing we make is now too late to feature against Liverpool?

Scousers must be licking their lips.

Man City on sunday will be a more accurate assessment of whether the young back line can hold firm start of the season.

06 Aug 2016 17:07:39
I think it's too late yes. I'm not sure who we start CB. Gabs and holding/ chambers/ biliek.

06 Aug 2016 17:11:37
The two lads who run the local shop near me are Liverpool fanatics and they are very excited, we were chatting last night about how a poor Liverpool ran Gabriel and Chambers ragged for the first 45 minutes last season and we all agreed wether it's Gabriel and Chambers or Holding and Chambers its unlikely to be pretty to watch for Arsenal fans, if Kos ain't available whatever combination we use looks totally lost without Kos to hold their hand which is a ridiculous situation.

06 Aug 2016 17:17:42
We have enough to beat them without new signings, 3-1 for the Arsenal.

Looking forward to the Xhaka - Elneny powerhouse in the midfield and they are both newish and a nice improvement. COYG.

06 Aug 2016 17:27:21
I think 'pools front line will be far too lively for our defence, we won't have it easy the following week either.

I commented a couple of weeks ago, a bad defeat to Liverpool might rush Wenger into the transfer market.

06 Aug 2016 17:28:15
We have enough to score goals Red, yes

Defensively I'm not so sure.

06 Aug 2016 17:36:24
Its never too late, a new face will give everyone a lift. It is too late but it isn't, if uou see what i mean.

06 Aug 2016 17:42:04
Just sign Ashley Williams for 12 million how could he not improve us as a player and motivator?
Forget all about resale value just do what needs doing.

06 Aug 2016 17:50:48
Their defence might be bit suspect too.

Skrtel n Kolo gone. Sakho is injured I think and having off field issues. They might have to debut that Estonian they've signed. Big game to be making your competitive first appearance.

Goal keepers could be decisive. We have a worldie in Cech and they have the Belgium backup in Miglonet.

While their forward line is tasty it might not be all doom and gloom.

06 Aug 2016 17:52:03
I agree 62, just get him.

06 Aug 2016 18:05:09
Steve - agreed. Never too late for a new signing as it shows intent.

06 Aug 2016 18:35:59
Liverpool hammering Barcelona 3-0 .

06 Aug 2016 19:01:14
Good hopefully they will treat us like we treated West Ham on the opening day last season after we beat Chelsea in the community shield:-)

06 Aug 2016 20:20:46
Love the optimism red, bring on loserpool. They've got nothing on us ;)

4-1 home win 👍🏻.

06 Aug 2016 21:37:24
I really like Ashley Williams, perfect age to let Chambers and Holding develop - don't know why we didn't sign him a the last couple of years. Ramsey here to help him settle - c'mon Arsene!

06 Aug 2016 22:14:11
Ashley Williams is exactly what we need, bags of premier league experience, leader who wouldn't need Kos to hold his hand through games but instead would relieve the pressure on him when playing together and would also hold our defence together when Kos is missing like no one currently can.
Such an easy solution to our CB problems its unreal and at 12 million so easily affordable even for us.

06 Aug 2016 23:14:24
My doomsday device has just tuned up.

06 Aug 2016 23:43:27
You'd think we'd snap up Williams, I don't quite understand why we'd turn down such an opportunity.

07 Aug 2016 00:59:56
I do think if we don't sign anyone before liverpool and we do lose, the sh £t will hit the fan and we will probably get our arses into gear and sign someone to quell the discontent, so a defeat wouldn't be all bad. I seem to think we have been there before.

07 Aug 2016 07:01:19
Yep Steve

That's exactly what will happen

With a full squad it's hard enough playing Liverpool, without the Euro boys . well.

06 Aug 2016 10:36:32
So wenger has been quoted saying. "We do not have to panic but make the right move when the opportunity comes up. " so come the end of the window we have not signed a striker, he can just say the right opportunity didn't come up.

06 Aug 2016 08:23:32
Arsene said last night, when asked about a striker;

'"The price of a player is down to four ingredients. One is the talent, two his age, three is how much you expect him to improve your team, and four his resale value.

What utter rubbish.

He's just bid £20m for Jamie Vardy, a 29 year old with almost NO resale value after 2-3 seasons.

This stinks of 'I have no plan and I'm waiting to see what happens elsewhere'
Eventually, it'll be too late, nobody will be selling because they can't replace and then he'll be going on about 'we were active but there was nobody available'

06 Aug 2016 09:09:43
D - if you read the quote, it unfortunately makes lots of sense. Vardy at 20m would have added value and probably required zero sell on value. Vardy at 30m probably required some so would not make sense.
The four point plan is perfectly sound business reasoning and explains why we pass on certain players while signing others. What's unusual is that the manager makes these statements rather than the chairman.
There are clearly still plenty players that tick those boxes and we have signed such players eg Sanchez, Santi, Granit, Giroud, Ade, Henry, Paddy, Elneny, Overmars, Anelka, Cech etc etc
The 4 point plan was effectively why people on here were saying we would not sign Higuain but thought Gruezmann may be an option.
We all want signings, it sounds like we have a plan and sounds like he needs positions filled so let's see.

06 Aug 2016 09:27:12
Arsene stated (not word for word here sorry! ) that 'if a player meets all 4 points, then price is not important'

As far as I see it mate, he's saying he wants players that would have resale value, in case they want/ have to leave, but Vardy would of had none.

Look, I'm all for backing Arsene and I certainly don't want us spending money for the sake of it, £70m on Higauin would definitely been silly.
But at the same time, I have a real feeling that Arsene and co are waiting around for transfers that may never happen, instead of actively chasing reinforcements that would benefit us.

06 Aug 2016 09:35:13
That's a different argument but I get that one buddy

Still 25 days to go :)

06 Aug 2016 09:57:31
That is true mate.
I do really hope something is pulled off, I'm pretty sure we'll see one addition, wether it's one that's a real top level, remains to be seen.

06 Aug 2016 10:21:30
D

It's not going to happen, I said weeks ago unless we sell a couple of players to fund another buy it won't happen, when do we spend 70,000,000 without anything coming back

TFI always works on net spend

He's happy with what he's got

The season starts next weekend, as I said a couple of days ago . it's too late.

06 Aug 2016 11:42:29
It's so frustrating tho. I really don't think that much even needs to be spent. A CB. I reckon we could get for around 25m. If that's too much throw like 15m for Williams see what they do. The CF sure that'll be more but I still think we can get by without one. Only if the likes of ozil, Ramsey, cazorla, ox, Alexis and iwobi chip in with more goals. And giroud to I guess. Surely they should have enough attacking power between them. A solid back line would do more for us than a CF I think. In the ideal world they'd get both but I can't see it.

06 Aug 2016 12:55:40
Agree with that 16, Williams would be worth 15 mill, get him quick.

06 Aug 2016 13:11:07
Exactly. i know he hasn't got many seasons left. But he's solid and I'm sure he'd do wonders for chambers and holding to learn from.

06 Aug 2016 13:29:20
I know he's getting on. in football terms but he's still less than Chambers was and will no doubt contribute more.

06 Aug 2016 04:47:34
DAGS. DAGS. DAGS.
You are so sexy when you are angry.
Listen mate I posted that financial report that stated we had a comfortable 50 mill to spend unless we went into the overdraft which had another 50 mill to dip in to.
That was ages ago. That came from a reputable company that I wouldn't imagine would mug themselves off by publishing a load of bo££ocks.
Then you get the financial whizz kids on here that spend a week explaining the ins and outs of a cats arse about what we should have in the bank when its already been published by the club! .
Fact is Dags I think we should realise by now that when it comes to transfer negotiations Arsenal are messers mate.
Wenger didn't get that hooter by coincidence Dags.
😂😂😂😂😂.

06 Aug 2016 08:07:18
Lanesra,
Unfortunately you are correct.

What riles me is that the board say, "We have money to splash out", the day after club's shut the door on us because we refuse to increase our initial derisory offer.