Arsenal Banter Archive July 06 2013

06 Jul 2013 19:59:07
lets get first thing first, higuian will NOT sign for arsenal, as real Madrid are waiting on Napoli to sell to put a firm a bid in,
arteta was the player purchased that set the tone for how mediocre the players and ambition of the the board, before iam told arteta magic worl class their is players linked with the club i. e fellani fabregas arteta would be dropped in a heart beat,
the whole club lacks ambition has done for years,
our owner far richer than Chelsea only difference abramovich wunts it gets it,
have a cheek selling tickets for little desire we will be following in liverpools footsteps the dregs of the EPL.

Alright mate so when Higuain signs will you come back and admit you we're chatting rubbish? Arteta was a last minute buy and he is a mediocre player. He was at Barcelona in his young days and is a player that is very underrated in the prem. You talk of Cesc as if he didn't play and captain our team! Bottom line you is you know nothing and all your doing bringing negativity to this site.

Well this doesn't seem at all negative. Are you wanting this to come true for some reason?

Don't buy any razor blades
Flybo

Ok fair enough- its all doom and gloom and let's just prepare for mediocrity.

So you have no need to check arsenal rumours or transfers? Cause there is no point is there?

Or in the next month or so when most of our summer targets have been signed?

hmm I wonder what you will have to say then.

You will go back on what you just said, I assure you.

I know you are just trying to wind gooners up, but I guess you have succeeded at least on me. (I take it you are a trolling chav)

Where to begin with your post:
1. Usmanov is a minority shareholder in Arsenal, so although richer than Roman Abromovich, he cannot really pump any money into the club;
2. Kroenke is not as rich as Abromovich and is used to North American sports which are salary capped in general and make profits year on year (although the avalanche did have a big pay roll pre-salary cap NHL);
3. Arteta had the highest number of passes and highest pass completion rate in the BPL (yes he is in every way superior to Carrick and were he English everyone would recognize this) he is the metronome through which arsenal ticks;
4. Arteta's only problem is he can be harried off the ball / man marked so he does not receive the ball, which can disrupt our distribution and he is getting on in years;
5. You are naive if you think those players would walk into the team, you need a strong squad rotation and arteta would remain a vital cog in that rotation;
6. I agree Arsenal has been conservative in the transfer market for years ( because we built a multihundred million pound stadium, had terrible commercial deals, and I guess we are not owned by a fantasy football oligarch);
6. We have now renegotiated our commercial deals;
7. We have the fourth biggest gate in European football;
8. We will have some of the biggest commercial deals in European football;
9. FFP is coming into force (the jury is out on whether it will have any teeth in the BPL or in Europe, but if it does good for us);
10. In relation to 6, 7, and 8, we can now spend some money, not oligarch like money, but still some serious money; and
11. Hig will be the start of this change in philosophy (although arguably the culling of our academy and deadwood removal signalled the start).

Anyways you are entitled to your opinion, although it appears you have drank the club in crisis kool-aid.

If you are a fan I am sorry that you are Eeyore and seem to have lost your tail. If you are a chav, well I hope that FFP does not actually come into force for your sake.

Rant over

James R.

Great post james, well put.

Well said James intelligent & to the point

Thank you James good pints!

Josh09

Arteta in my opinion is the worst ever 10 million signing he can't pass (look at his success rate but all his completed passes are backwards). He is very weak, no creativity, can't score and just generally terrible

I love good pints josh


Cork city Gooner

Well written James!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

08 Jul 2013 19:47:18
@noname, did you notice how we fared when he was injured? I suggest you apply for the manager's job before they give wenger it again.

06 Jul 2013 18:57:07
Just watched sanogo the way he plays really reminds me of a young kanu. Wenger has unearthed a mager talent between him and higuain I'm expecting mager things.

Olloway gooner

I would understand spelling major wrong once but twice come on. I agree though I don't know why everyone is angry about the sanogo signing he's a promising prospect. hopefully with other new players coming in more majer things will happen at Arsenal.

Bournemouth Gooner

06 Jul 2013 21:25:39
I knew it looked wrong but o well you got the joist of it
Olloway gooner

Agree on Sanogo. Patience people, I don't claim to know any insider info, but common sense says he isn't going to be our major or only signing. He's a development player.

06 Jul 2013 17:34:51
Yaya sanogo scores again looking good for the future!


SM1996

I just bought him on Fifa 13. And he's awesome lol. Might I add that as an arsenal fan, the Arsenal board sacked me due to my rather explicit outbursts and I am now sitting pretty at the top of the league at the helm of Wigan lol.

Explicit outbursts? Just signed gonzalo and he scored a hat trick on his debut :0)

Yeah with the Kinect if you get angry and shout obscenities at the screen you get warnings. Before I realised what was going on I got the boot lol.

06 Jul 2013 16:40:34
The sale of Vito Mannone was to allow Martinez to become our 3rd choice keeper. No new keeper coming in

06 Jul 2013 15:29:25
Sky's exact words are "Arsenal are still interested in Argentine forward Gonzalo Higuain". Reading between the lines, even though it is pretty easy for this quote, I think that the deal is no where near completion. Yes we've heard Higuain's agents talking about advanced talks, but I must admit I'm with sky on this one - they're pretty reliable and I think that the deal will take a lot more time. Sorry Malaga.

I think those words link well with the rumour that their is not a definitive agreement on the price of his sale, this only being since Perez has tried to recover more money from the sale. Sky earlier stated our representatives flew to Spain to close a deal, not start a deal close a deal meaning fees were agreed and personal terms were on the cards. The deal should still go through the player wants leave and Arsenal will pay a good price for him, be patient.

06 Jul 2013 13:29:05
Guys it's only 6 days in from the window can we please calm down, I might have an explanation due for the Higuain saga, what I think is he has signed and we will show him in our new away kit that he will score 20+ goals on the 9th
Just my opinion

Young Gun

Wow young gun, he will score 20+ goals on the 9th, who are we playing?

06 Jul 2013 12:08:14
Hi ed, looks like Madrid are playing hard ball with arsenal over Higuain. I think there early desire to sell him was based on the accumulation of funds to finance a deal for bale. Now with spurs refusing to sell bale for less than a world record fee, Madrid look like they will go with what they already have, supplemented with some affordable rising stars. Subsequently arsenal will have to go to prices that would leave arsene choking on his spaghetti carbonara. Therein lies the dilemma. We all crave new signings, but do we want to pay astronomical fees for essentially Madrid cast offs. Wenger has bemoaned the inflated fees and extortionant wages of a modern day footballer, he is not exempt from criticism, paying "rubbish footballers" 60 grand a week and tying them to long deals. He is definitely clearing the decks to bring in new players, most of the deadwood are being sold, loaned or e-bayed. I know we are all getting restless but I am convinced new players are coming in. This summer could be so fruitful, if we secure any of our top targets, notably, Higuain, jovetic, remy, grenier, kondogbia, Fellaini, Capoue, Wanyama, I can see us looking at a very good future. I think the next two weeks should see arsene's gold amex card take a pounding in the summer sales. Happy go lucky.

" do we want to pay astronomical fees for essentially Madrid cast offs. "
Comments like that p*ss me off. Just because he was behind Benzema (not a bad player) under Mourinio, he therefore is a cast off and not worth buying, rubbish!
At a push, if he is a cast off, then let's have one from Real Madrid.
It comes down to "will he improve our team". Answer put simply, yes. Why? Because he's a quality player and worth every penny.
Flybo

Robson said the same thing. Really bugs me.

Higuain is not a "cast off"- he came out at the end of the season and declared his will to move. He's scored 100+ goals for one of the best sides on the planet before he's 25.

He is about as quality as it gets.

On second thought, maybe it was Adams who labeled Higuain a cast off, either way the two of them should put a lid on it

How can you even say that about the player who since 2007 has only been eclipsed in la liga goals by the two best players in the world. You don't have a clue why you're talking about. Higuain is pure class and in a team like arsenal has the ability to make is great again. I think you need to YouTube him as you clearly haven't got a clue about what class is!

Stopped reading when you called higuain a madrid cast off.

Song, nasri, vela, rvp, cesc, henry?

when we sold these players were they arsenal cast offs?

song wasnt defensive enough for our setup, supposedly good enough for barca now and then

nasri was too greedy, but has still one more prem titles than any of our team

vela was unlucky and i'd have him back over gerv or park or bendy or chamackh

RvP disagreed with the powers that be, to quote utd 'no player is bigger than the club'

cesc, well cesc went back to his parents house, he can move back to his home in england when he wants

henry, and key to my point.
henry was never as good as when he was with us, his career was starting to trail off after us really, and who STILL wouldn't want henry back?


Cast offs ey?

06 Jul 2013 11:52:52
interested to see what people think on the Luis Suarez to Arsenal transfer I personally can't see this happening but William Hill stopped taking bets after a strange betting pattern in Spain and a lot of bookies have short priced him now to where were favourites or second favourites to sign him, I for 1 don't know if i'd like to see him in an arsenal shirt because on his day he is the best striker in the premiership and got everything you'd want out of a player but the things he do ruin that, and I thought he needed to get away from the English media for bullying him.

And with regards to papers linking us with Gareth Barry I would hate this very much, second most overrated player in english football behind Stuart Downing.

Who rates downing?

So you think barry and downing are overrated?

really man? REALLY!

06 Jul 2013 11:25:52
Just a thought if we are to keep hold of verminator who would be keen to put our faith in miquel as 4th choice center back as we have put a lot of work in to his development and he is coming in to the age where he needs to be playing. Give him the cups to shine in till christmas then if he is out of his depth we can look at signing a replacement 4th center back?

Like the look of miquel, would be brilliant to produce another gem from la masia, especially a position that they need.

06 Jul 2013 10:41:39
Seeing that Francis Coquelin has moved out on loan, I really don't see a replacement being brought in with a keeper, striker and a defender priorities. so I feel that this is a big season for Frimpong and the emergence of Hayden and Yennaris

06 Jul 2013 10:08:54
Why is it quiet on the site today like someone died? Come on, let's remain positive no matter how tough it is!

Nam-gooner

It's because it's sunny. Everyone is going out

Chimney sweep josh

06 Jul 2013 09:22:03
Note for ed
With Moyes now coming out and sayin Rooney is not for sale.
Do you think Arsene will make a move for Remy from QPR? Wenger has been linked to him for years. surely he'd be a cheaper option and better suited than other potential strikers. He looked pretty impressive in prem last season. Strong and powerful.
I also think him and higuain (if he signs)would make a decent attacking force some5hing arsenal lack atm
what are your thoughts ed? {Ed029's Note - Posted elsewhere by Ed02 - Remy may well move on this summer and QPR expected an enquiry from Spurs - that never happened. Inter see Remy as a cheap solution and have sought assistance from someone at Marseille to help persuade him to move from England, where he is apparently keen to stay. She tells me that any interest from other clubs, such as Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle at this time would seem to be no more than speculative with Newcastle making it clear that they will not be declaring any interest at €8M. This one could run all summer or he will need to return to mainland Europe.}

06 Jul 2013 08:49:50
Higuain is tipped to be more advanced than van persie at his age. from the videos I have seen he looks awesome especially with one on ones, this guy will light up the prem i'm sure.

06 Jul 2013 08:05:49
I think GH medical will be done today if he would have only left argentina yesterday and people expect him to straight to coloney or wherever they take place and do a medical really don't think there is a problem with the fee

Cork
City
Gooner

06 Jul 2013 07:29:53
Think I had a post mid sentence please disregard if you get it

Hope all is well w you guys

Look at this site and where it is! Testament to you guys

Cheers {Ed001's Note - sorry if I posted it by mistake, or someone else did mate.}

06 Jul 2013 05:47:13
Hold on to your undies lads, No 4 is on his way back, I believe it to be a last minute deal, this my friends is just a hunch I have.

Higuain is a done deal in my books, Aw is creating another immortal team, some of the lads already have that never sae die attitude already, can't wait.

The only troubling thing is I heard Diaby mark II (sanongo 22) is injured again.

Totally unfair comment about sanongo - he was injured *once* and come back from that injury.

Is this the same sanongo who looked a lively, talented young player who got on the score sheet this afternoon?

Some of our fans are like spoilt brats!

06 Jul 2013 00:19:15
I think other clubs wait for Arsenal to negotiate a deal for a player before making an offer, in such a scenario they know they are in for an absolute bargain. And then come in with a bigger pay package/guaranteed trophies etc to lure the player away from us. Very possible and smart.
Just my opinion.

I will cry if this is an actual tactic used by clubs

PdotY