Arsenal Banter Archive March 06 2017

 

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06 Mar 2017 17:41:31
Anyone think perhaps Luis Enrique will be in the mix for the Arsenal job? What are your thoughts if he is?

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06 Mar 2017 19:39:54
wouldn't be happy with him at all. as a manager i think he's mediocre, he's only ever done significantly well at barcelona which isn't exactly hard. and he should never have gotten the job in the first place, he got it purely off of his reputation as a player.

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06 Mar 2017 19:44:36
No I don't think so, I think he said anywayhe wanted aa rest before his next project. Personally I see many over him.

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06 Mar 2017 20:32:22
Not for me Sharpie, it really concerns me who exactly the owner will go for. He instills no confidence in me whatsoever on that front.

Sampaoli or Allegri maybe, I really don't know. Don't want to hate on Wenger but we really need a change at the helm and next season can't come soon enough.

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06 Mar 2017 21:07:19
Max Allegri or Leonardo Jardim will do nicely. And maybe Thomas Tuchel.

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07 Mar 2017 01:34:24
Luis enrique is an average coach. The one coach who in my opinion was tailor made for Arsenal is guardiola. I have no idea why we never got him. Did wenger refuse to step down for him or could Arsenal not afford him?

People are raving about allegri but trust me there is nothing special about him. jardim, tuchel and sampaoli are way better. Sampaoli is good tactically (He watched argentina team on tape 20 times before the copa america final which chile won. He is good at identifying the oppositions weakness while making sure his teams still play attacking football. The downside to him is that he is 56 years old so he can't be around for long and he doesn't speak english. Jardim is also another good coach. His greatest strength is that he bonds with his players and really knows how to work with young players. His game is not really possession based. His teams thrive on fast counter attacks. His monaco team play great football but are defensively horrible. They concede easily and they have one decent central defender in glik.

Thomas tuchel is probably the best young coach around. He is too brainy (has a masters degree in economics i think or a bachelors not sure) plays attacking football and mixes it up. Sometimes he plays with 3 at the back and at times he plays 4 at the back. Tactically very flexible. Speaks fluent english and likes working with young players. He is no doubt a better tactician than klopp but less charismatic. His biggest weakness is that his man management isn't that great and he has never won a major title. Considering all this factors i think Tuchel is the best bet for us but if not tuchel ill go for jardim or sampaoli.

Allegri is a no go for me. Plays too defensive for my liking and is really overrated to be honest. Tactically there is nothing special about him as oppossed to say tuchel but allegri is a passionate coach. He will give the hairdryer treatment to our flops. There is nothing special about him though. The only titles he won were with juventus and Ac milan when both teams had the best teams in serie A. His only notable achievement was reaching the champions league final. If Arsenal want to ape our neighbours chelsea and feel italian, i will suggest going for montella. plays great attacking football. He is the current head coach of Ac milan.

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{Ed002's Note - Guardiola was not going to be joining Arsenal.}

07 Mar 2017 01:50:21
Ed002 did arsenal approach guardiola?

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{Ed002's Note - No, never. In discussing Guardiola's potential options at the start of the 2015/16 season I wrote this about Arsenal:

"Arsenal – As I have previously explained, during the pre-season and early on in the season there was an issue that was proving to be of great concern to Monsieur Wenger and there was a chance that he would not see out his contract. To allay fears that would happen, and after some discussions, he has now stated to the board that he will retire in the summer of 2017 when his contract expires. Unless the issue M Wenger is concerned about comes back to the fore, I think it very unlikely that he would step down next summer."

Guardiola is not and never has been an option.}

07 Mar 2017 17:43:19
Ed002 that is what is frustrating. how come we never approached guardiola? Before he went to bayern, i heard his choice was arsenal but we didn't approach him also. there is no 100% gurantee his team would win but what you will get is a coach whose team would go down fighting and he is really tactically good. Most pundits were of the opinion that Arsenal was meant for guardiola and that guardiola was meant for arsenal too because he plays attacking football just like wenger but the difference is that he wins you titles but that is gone. there are still good coaches around. sampaoli and tuchel and even jardim. any would be an upgrade on wenger.

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{Ed002's Note - Why is that frustrating? Arsenal never approached Mourinho, nor Conte, nor Jesualdo Ferreira, nor Ancelotti or even Bob Bradley. Guardiola has, to the best of my knowledge, never said he wants to manage Arsenal. I appreciate that you don't like Monsieur Wenger, who I personally think has done so much for the club, and you prefer a number of other managers (who I assume you have extensive knowledge of their coaching abilities in order to say the are upgrades). Jardim's tenure at clubs over the last 10 years averages less than 18 months - but you see him as an upgrade? What you need to do is start a Facebook page where you can share this seething hatred - no doubt there are plenty here that would join you. Then perhaps daubing abusive graffiti on the stadium - maybe even a small fire to get your point across. Sky writing and signs towed by light aircraft are becoming more popular. Actually one way we support the site is through our online store where you can purchase effigies of Arsenal owners, management, players and prospective players. You can then make the pilgrimage to the Emirates where there will be ritual burnings at half time. We are selling some very high-end voodoo dolls with a set of silver-plated pins thrown in for good measure. If you buy the doll with the glasses, you know you have an Arsene Wenger doll (we still have several boxes of them to sell). It is pitiful and embarrassing that Arsenal supporters cannot deal with the respectful change of tenure of the manager and have to demonstrate how cretibous they are. Certainly the current behaviour of the fans would be enough to put off people from taking over.

In the past the Arsenal supporters here have generally shown themselves and come across as being pretty good. It seems that the quota of shaven-headed, lager-swilling, pot-bellied, tattooed, knuckledragging morons is growing.}

06 Mar 2017 09:56:53
Hello everyone the situation at the moment
is due to one thing and one thing only the will i or won't i saga of Arsene, s new contract. It beggars belief that we are in a situation where one man and one man only is calling the tune and leading us into a very
bad situation. We have players whose contracts are winding down, players who are on contracts who quite basically not fit to where the shirt, disgruntled fans like me and others on this site who saw the problems coming a few seasons back despite 2 cup wins that only papered over the cracks and here we have a manager whose stubbornly has refused to change his footballing ideas and lead us into this position has now got us waiting for his decision what he thinks is best for HIM! . Not us the fans, players or anyone else for that matter. I don't believe a manager of Allegri s class has agreed to come to us if Wenger decides to leave, if Arsenal have approached him and said that to him i know what i would say. i'm not worried about Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Utd or Spurs finishing above us its about getting a new manager in with fresh ideas settling everything down, calming a unsteady and undirected ship, not about a once great manager playing a part of a control freak who clearly for reasons only known to him refuses to change, i would go further to say that it would not surprise me one bit if he has already secretly signed that contract. If he hasn't what is so wrong in letting us the fans know NOW! If he is staying or going. I think he has been loyal to us when in his better years other clubs came calling but we have also been loyal paying some of the highest ticket prices and still getting big attendances and him still being paid one of the highest paid managers in the world. If the board want too name a stand after him but Arsene do us all a favour and go so we can start to put things right.

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05 Mar 2017 23:36:38
I am genuinely concerned about our top 4 finish and life without our star player (S).

Champs league was worth 53m in distribution proceeds last year to our club plus it would impact sponsorship and box prices. This would be a huge loss. We don't have a rich owner who throws money at the club.

Our cash position isn't great either:

" Group's cash and bank balance was significantly lower at £123.7 million, compared with £226.5 million at the start of the period."

This could be a disastrous season with huge implications. The boys need to have a big meeting, sort their stuff out and provide a miracle.

I will be sorry to see Wenger go and I believe he will go now. I don't want to see him finish outside the top 4 or see us not in the Champions League.

We have no hope in the FA Cup as the next two rounds will be too strong for us after Lincoln. So, that's a rubbish end to a dynasty for Wenger and I am a little sad for him but he has brought some of it on himself.

We invested 110m in players with only Mustafi to show for it. We cannot afford that. We have to be wiser and better. Ozil is missing Santi - we should have a Santi replacement by now! He misses games most years now.

I want a winger like Hazzard who can run at people and I would have been happy with a striker like Mane. Crappy ending for a great manager. He has also left us in the shite with a poor finish and star players not happy while running contracts down.

Sell - Jack, Campbell, Gibbs, Theo, Coq, debuchy, that Brazilian centre half.

Last chance - Rambo, Perez, Iwobi, Ox, Wellbeck, Granit.

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06 Mar 2017 03:02:04
Why is it last chance for Perez? He's great, Wenger just doesn't give him a game for whatever reason. Welbeck, too? He's by no means our saviour but we're a better team for having him, he brings so much energy to the team when fit.

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06 Mar 2017 03:25:10
And last chance for Iwobi?
He's 20 and in my opinion on his way to being a very good player.

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06 Mar 2017 08:40:48
Last chance for Ramsey? no thanks.

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06 Mar 2017 10:25:21
There are so many things wrong at the moment it's difficult to know where to start, failing to sign up Sanchez and Ozil months ago will do for a start.

Stating we couldn't compete financially for Kante's signature when he is on £20,000 a week more than Xhaka who we paid £7 million more in transfer fee for is another.

Dropping our best player to the bench in yet another absolute must win game is up there with the stupidest things he's done.

I've stood up for him so many times but it's beyond that. I'm not surprised but disappointed he hasn't done the decent thing and gone. Honouring a contract is admirable but not in this situation.

It will take a miracle for us to make top 4 and he doesn't have it in him any longer to get this squad to do that.

We are going to lose our best player, we will not have Champions League football and a new manager will have to build again.

The most damning thing is the pathetic owner allowing this mediocrity to continue. We are a joke of a big club who cannot compete with other big clubs, sitting bottom of the top 6 table with 5 points whilst Liverpool sit top with 19 says it all.

No club big or small fear us, we have become also rans, and will win nothing of note for the foreseeable future.

Wenger really is a busted flush and him staying is now just embarrassing.

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06 Mar 2017 09:59:39
Jack? Get out of here. no way!

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06 Mar 2017 11:32:53
It's his stupidest decision ever, why would ever do that

Has Wenger actually lost the plot, the board should be questioning him

Good post Stoner.

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06 Mar 2017 14:06:38
I think the players just aren't playing for Wenger anymore. Look at Ramsey, total tripe for us, but put him in the Welsh shirt and he is fantastic. I think we have a stronger squad than we think, we just need a new man at the top to get the best out of them. This includes players playing in their correct position, for example the Ox. Through the middle he shows signs that he could be a replacement for Santi (if given time) , but as a winger, how does he offer anything different than Campbell? Either play him in his best position or sell him.

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06 Mar 2017 16:47:54
It's because Wales actually play him in his right position, not as a winger or holding midfielder.

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06 Mar 2017 20:50:38
That's another talking point Banbury, the don't and won't.

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