Arsenal Banter Archive April 07 2013

07 Apr 2013 22:51:46
a question for my fellow Gooners if you had to choose one
Cavini
Falcao

Limerick Gunner

Limerick for me!

They both are very similar players, very hard to choose, maybe I'd go for falcoa just because he scored more
Waq

Falcao

HP

Cavani - quicker and stronger so would adapt better imo

Falcao more clinical full stop

Higuain, give me the guy that's bagged 100 for Real

If he's available he is priority number 1

Giroud

07 Apr 2013 21:50:49
Cesar, Dzeko, Bender, Sakho, Ashley Williams and Sanchez

Keep Sagna foe 1 more year plus Rosicky

SY4

You guys are difficult to please!

I thought this gave - age, experience, EPL experience, pace and height?

Sagna can play second fiddle to Jenko next season

Banter?

SY4

08 Apr 2013 09:03:04
SY4,

It's a question that we can agree to some but not to others, that's the reason for your split, I agree with what your saying but just not all your choices.

I'm not sure Cesar and Williams are where we should be going, others I've heard about but not seen.

We just need real quality, nothing less.

Stoner

07 Apr 2013 21:33:28
I really hope Van persie lines up to play against us, I know it makes the game harder, but really looking forward to his welcome (or lack of it) than the game itself at the moment.


Bergkamps apprentice 1

I'm sure he (RVP) will cry all the way to picking up the EPL title ;)

HB

HB, the great thing about attending matches is about the banter on the way to the game, during the game and the thoughts afterwards. Its about the fans, that make a club great not players who only concern is there car better than their fellow team mates.

07 Apr 2013 17:34:31
did some one stick a pin in the Spudette's bouncy castle?:):) hmmmm,
where's mr Flybo:):)
hahah:) well done everton:)

COYG:) andi

We cope a lot better under pressure than spurs can. we've had 16 years of getting into the champions league and this is when it pays off.
COYG
VICTORY THROUGH HARMONY

Spurs fan I peace here. I have even harping on this year that we have all bern as bad as each other. Up to now we have been the best of a bad lot.
Injuries is not an excuse for us as we failed to beat Fulham stoke Wigan Norwich and WBA at home.
We have been very good away, all but hanging on a lot of the time. Us, you and the chavs have been very inconsistent all season. You, as usual, are finding your form now. We had our surge mid season when we won 10 out of 12. It's just a surprise that we are still around you, the chavs and man city. A lot is still to play for but I will say I think 3rd maybe 2nd is yours and the rest is all to play for. I hope the chavs fail to get top 4 but, if that happened, roman would throw another £200million at it for next season.
Good luck for the rest of the season (ish) lol

COYS

I think that a fair result would Arsenal to be second or third, Spurs to get fourth with Chelsea missing out in fifth. That would atone for last years CL qualification by default. Just my opinion.

Not fussed who gets in champions league as long as we do tbh

As long as we finish ahead of spurs i'm happy, but I think everyone would rather have Chelsea in the top 4 rather than spurs as there is a chance bale will leave for champions league football if he's not getting it at spurs.

07 Apr 2013 17:21:50
So how many contracts do we have ending this summer?

07 Apr 2013 17:04:34
hi eds
douglas fo fc twente, his contract is up in the summer and has received rave reviews over the past 18months. is there any arsenal interest in him? it would be silly to pass up the opportunity.

sean {Ed027's Note - No intrest he was courted by Newcastle last summer

07 Apr 2013 16:56:56
question may sound silly.

if we had a couple of major injury's in the cb position b4 djourou left on loan do you think steve bould could have done anything with.

does any 1 sea anything in him.

malaga gooner

Theres something about him sometimes, maybe its because he only plays against a lot weaker sides. but of all people steve bould would get something.

i think he will depart permanently in the summer with at least one center back coming in if not two.

07 Apr 2013 16:10:54
I don't care whether Giroud gives 100% every match, I could give a 100% in an arsenal shirt but that doesn't mean that i'm a good player. The message i'm trying to get across is although Giroud gives his all for the badge, that doesn't mean that he's good enough for the job. If you disagree you either don't watch matches or you're deluded. People, a few of you are saying he's had a decent goal return, but have you actually gone and done some research of when he's scored and who against. Ok, fair enough he saved our bacon against Fulham, but apart from that he's scored against teams that we've more or less beaten, a la Newcastle and Reading. I'm talking about the chelseas, the man utds and the man citys of this world, these are the teams that he has to prove himself against. can't believe he came out and said he's had a better first season than van persie, although this is statistically correct, I don't think he's had a look at his age compared to van persie at his first season. don't get me wrong I hate van persie but he had the prowess to score against man utd, chelsea etc. something that Giroud does not possess.

CheetahChaz97 {Ed027's Note - 16 goals and 13 Assists in his 1st season so far, not bad, not bad at all

This is utter tripe. Giroud has had a very good season. Him not scoring against big clubs is a poor argument. Incorrect also. Bayern Munich anyone?

Edo27,, was giroud not bought as a 2nd striker. did he not say that in an interview.
i am pretty sure we were looking at other editions last summer when we sold rvp.
i am pretty sure I read some where there was a chance rvp was staying and when the club decided to sell we had a target that did not pay off.

i know there is all ways loads of bs around including my self but you can't tell me wenger did not at least try to sign a quality forward.

i can understand the gamble with alex song situation we do have a load of midfielders to cover him even though I am not happy that he gambled.

i believe wenger plan is off load players 1st b4 he buys.

i do not believe a transfer kitty is the issue.

when you look at our wage bill how much money is removed from it this summer.

if we get cl next year it will have worked

when you think about how good a wenger team will be with that step in player quality its quite exciting.

i do not believe wenger will walk away when finally there will be money to spent.

i think I could be wrong about ASENE WENGER.

he pushed for stadium there had to be a plan.

the stadium had to have the priority.

time will tell

malaga gooner {Ed027's Note - RVP would of stayed in the end, but Wenger and the board are stubborn. Jovetic is being looked at for a reason, so yeah Giroud will proabably be our back up striker, he would be perfect for that.

07 Apr 2013 16:51:18
I get where you're coming from to a degree because some things he does almost make him look amateurish, that constant jumping for a header and missing the ball for one.

I do like the guy and he is an upgrade on our other two loaned out legends. He's scoring for one and his stats are good.

I posted earlier about squad players and he in his first year is a great squad player, I'm hoping he'll really find his feet next season but at the same time that we buy a clinical finisher to go with him.

Stoner

He's also scored against bayern, liverpool, spurs and schalke forgot to mention that though didn't ya! 16 goals and 13 assists but he's crap you don't make any sense! We do probably need another striker but its his first season and he's that productive I really don't get what your moaning about!


SM1996

One game vs bayern, remember the miss vs Chelsea, Liverpool, Sunderland, Schalke, the list goes on. Top post.

LegoBlock {Ed027's Note - Ok so how about RVP he misses countless sitters

Yes the sitter he missed against Ac Milan 2nd leg last season that would had made it 4-0

I don't understand the first season argument that well.

1. Its ok if we buy a striker who is young 21-22.
2. Or if we buy a striker in Jan.
3. Or pretty late in the transfer period.

Giroud was bought very early he attended all of pre-season training aswell with us I suppose. Ok I understand the defenders in EPL are more pacy than back in france but its not like he is going to develop more pace next season. Nor is he a skillful player who dribbles etc. And his link-up play is already very good so I don't understand how he is going to improve so much next year. One quality that he misses is how to miss the marker which RVP used to do well always had 2 runs in mind one for the marker and one for himself.

On the other hand other teams now know Giroud better so they know how to defend against him. And with less Pace/Individual brilliance thing can actually get even harder for him next year.

07 Apr 2013 16:01:23
Giroud is a second string striker. He's not good/fast enough to lead us against the best EPL and CL teams. We need a much more potent threat. Too many people confusing his work rate with his effectiveness.

07 Apr 2013 15:54:12
Even the Giroud fans have to admit that Podolski is a much talented footballer, and what I don't understand is that if he's fit enough for the bench why ain't he fit enough for the starting eleven.

LegoBlock {Ed027's Note - There's a reason he's been subbed off 99% of his games, he needs an op

Am a Giroud and Poldi fan mate, possible to be both as long as they have heart and perform. no need to divide the team. You can have Chamakh though!

07 Apr 2013 15:12:45
Congrats to chuks aneke & crewe!

Well done lads!

-Homesick-

07 Apr 2013 08:41:52
Ad any truth in Arsenal working to bring back Dennis Bergkamp from ajax to join the coaching staff. ? {Ed027's Note - Possibly, Ajaz want to tie him down

07 Apr 2013 02:31:35
hi eds
do arsenal have any interest in martin cacares of juventus for a summer move?
he would be a very good addition as he can fill rb and cb spots in the team.
do you know of interest ed/s? {Ed027's Note - nope

07 Apr 2013 12:24:54
Had to look twice at the league table in the paper this morning. Arsenal up to 4th - just made the world seem a better place.

07 Apr 2013 12:17:07
allt hese negative posts about giroud, its depressing when the fans of a club abuse a player like this, yes wecould to better but u can always do better unless youve got messi in your side (which will never happen) so instead of slating our players, why don't we talk about the future and what could happen at the club. my first post



afcb wyrm

I don't think Giroud reads this page so slating him here is better then during the game

He leads our high pressure when defending, he always runs his socks off just to get the ball, which is always what you want from a centre forward

I prefer centre forwards to score goals.

And as a centre forward he does score goals- for a first season in epl he's done very well. Until podolski got an injury and theo also he wasn't starting that many games. I think he may well prove to be a real find.

exiled clock ender

07 Apr 2013 11:25:33
Giroud is fantastic, those against him here are not real fans just want to criticize who needs it. this is a big guy with passion and bags of talent as seen by sublime backheel to Ramsey. You don't find them everyday. Watch his confidence grow, no thanks to you lot!

COYG

I think your having a laugh if u think Giroud reads what is said on this page. I am a real fan, I don't think he's made the grade yet (i hope he does, I like him) but he isn't up to par. One good touch a game isn't enough for me i'm afraid.
By the way, most post won't hurt his confidence as it's a opinion site with banter. not the dressing room before a game

If Giroud or any other professional player let's the fans sentiment effect their play; 1. they're in the wrong job 2. The oppo fans will be all over them. This isn't an under 10's league.

07 Apr 2013 10:16:29
cant believe all the hostility towards giroud.

he has had a great 1st season.

he said him self he did not expect to play as many games.

did you not hear the way are loyal away fans sang his name yesterday.

better than chamach, park and nb52.

malaga gooner

Being better than chamakh bendtner and park isn't the best achievement to be honest, but in some respects you are right he has had a good first season, he would have been the first person off the field yesterday, we need to hold on to the ball and that's not something he is great at,

1404

1404 big step up from france I think he's done good.

i just want our players to improve every season.

next season will tell the tale.

malaga gooner

Malaga I agree with you on giroud he has done brilliant in his first season re goals and assist's and I think he will come good I have said this many times on here.

But yesterday when we went down to ten men I thought he didn't do enough to help out his Midfield he walked back most times in the dying mins foster drifted past him with the ball like he wasn't there. When he had that shot in the end realistically he should not be shooting from there at that stage of the game when we were a man down why not bring into the corner and waste some time and give the midfield and defence a chance to push out. We were under unreal pressure and he just chose to basically give the ball back to them with a shot he should not have taken. I like giroud but you have to understand some fans frustration yesterday I feel when we went down to ten he did not step up.

Dave it was not his better game I agree.

when your down to 10 men I all ways believe your better of having speed up front.

he does not have speed we know that he's a target man and needs players playing of him.

no 1 mentioned how many times we got the ball wide and we could not get it past the 1st defender.

for me he had no service yesterday.

he has 16 goals this season if he gets 4-5 more goals he's over the 20 mark,, not bad for a 1st season.

i like a moan as much as the next person as you all know that BUT your picking on the wrong player.

malaga gooner

But that's it Malaga I love giroud and think he has a brilliant future at our club chances that man creates are unreal look at Ramsey yesterday lovely back heel And the man can score.

It wasn't his chances or his general gameplay from yesterday I had a problem with but his effort when we went down to ten men. Now I could have strangled our back four the amount of time they pumped it up to him and he had no one to knock it down to as we were a man short I'm not blaming him for that but he just seemed to stroll around the place not helping anyone with any real conviction.

Something that the commentators said on setanta and I agreed with when he had his toe stood on the ref did not stop play when he was down and they kept on playing was his toe that bad that he could not get up and try win the ball back all of a sudden we're down to nine men over a sore toe. Now I'm not saying it wasn't that bad I don't know but a Vieira or Henry or Adams would have got up chased the ball and got treatment later.

Jesus I'm reading back now over my post it looks like I hate giroud I don't I just feel he deserves some criticism for his effort yesterday.

Oh by the way love reading the posts Malaga.

Dave 6

Hi dave,

wanted to watch the 2nd half again b4 I commented any further.

he got a couple of bad tackles especially when a wba trod on his foot.

he did not have a good 2nd half but if ramsey scores we would be all going on about giroud and what a great goal and would be 3-0 up at half time.

ifs and buts I suppose.

malaga gooner

Malaga suppose it doesn't matter we both rate him and the game and three points were won even when we were down to ten oh and spurs are losing.

Love the Arsenal

07 Apr 2013 06:33:17
I can't believe I ever supported Giroud or thought he would come good.

It would take a pair of something between the legs in order for that to happen.

The occasional one touch doesn't make up for one or two good touches. Olivier you should be playing for Norwich, except Holt would start over you

Unreal, watched the match again, what a joke Olivier. Foster is running looking to play a ball in and he is jogging. jogging with 1 min left. What, is he saving energy?

R u feeling alrite?

07 Apr 2013 10:35:19
If you watched how much running he did all match, especially towards the end, he was destroyed, and he sustained a leg injury during game. Give the guy a break.

Detroit Gooner

I personally think we can do better, however in his defence he did take a nasty knock yesterday and may have been feeling it towards the end, or it may have been that he could have been instructed to stay up top for the chance of a late break as they were throwing players forward.

If Foster had lost the ball he would have been clean through.

As I say though he is not a starter for me.

337

07 Apr 2013 01:24:40
Is that the same Kuyt who scored countless important goals for Liverpool and is loved by Liverpool fans?

Giroud is a top class player. At times his link up play is sensational. He snatches at chances ATM but that's not helped by fans constantly getting on his back. I've never seen him give less than 100% which also goes a long way. His season reminds me a lot of Drogba's first in England. If he gets close to that level ill be happy.

I love him to bits!

Giroud is a great squad player who though not world class gives it everything and doesn't hide when things are going wrong. Misses a few, scores a few, that can be said for all good strikers. He clearly loves playing for us and is obviously well liked by the majority of us supporters, espically by our fantastic away support.
Thanks for the site Ed
Heybridge Gooner