Arsenal Banter Archive July 07 2015

07 Jul 2015 18:34:57
I really hope we don't sign higuain. was watching the highlights of the copa final again and he was wasteful, not to mention his penalty! even his team mates seemed annoyed with him! benzema and carvalho for me! COYG!

{Ed025's Note - hes a quality player for me G4l, all players have off days mate, but i do agree that benzema would be the one..

07 Jul 2015 21:11:16
I don't like him but he has scored goals wherever he has been. If the prices that are mooted are correct I can't see anyone paying over 40 million for him . We had a deal for him 2 years younger for 25million. Not for me would prefer a good few before him

07 Jul 2015 21:52:34
I think he'd do well but my own personal view is he had his chance and turned his back on us, I wouldn't be keen to give him another chance to do the same.
I'd much prefer to explore other options

{Ed025's Note - i think thats called...cutting off your nose to spite your face G62..

07 Jul 2015 22:01:24
That G62 is subconsciously why I probably don't quite like the idea. I was all up for it first time round

07 Jul 2015 22:10:31
Your right Ed but what if you get an even better nose instead though? and one that much prefers your face to that of the fat waiter with the wad of someone else's cash.
Brow think most of us were excited 2_years ago when he and his dad used us to get a better deal at Napoli but we've moved on from then I like to think mate.

07 Jul 2015 22:24:57
I hope so mate. Out of the strikers that are supposedly available or might be. There's benzema , lacazette maybe cavani so unless it's someone of that ilk then I don't think there's a significant upgrade out there.

07 Jul 2015 22:55:18
True mate available very top strikers are always in short supply and very high demand, maybe a cheeky Arsene of old style superstar out of nowhere? :-) this time last year 2 or 3 million would easily have bought you Harry Kane but not even Falco's eye brows

07 Jul 2015 14:35:35
What is the purpose of extending Jenkinson's contract, only to send him out on loan again? If he isn't of sufficient quality at 23 years of age, then surely we should try and sell him.
Debuchy is turning 30 this month, so should have at least 2 or 3 years left in him and Bellerin is only 20, but has proved he has the necessary quality. We also have Chambers, who was signed as a right-back.

07 Jul 2015 15:14:41
If it isn't costing us money, or at least not not a lot, i'm all for keeping jenko. didn't do coq any harm and we have a few defenders close to veteran stage and a defender with prem experience, played every week and able to judge his progess could save us in future. If he doesn't make it then we haven't lost millions either. With bellarin and jenko we could have rb tied up for years.

07 Jul 2015 15:17:43
Chambers seems to be thought of as more of a CB for the future, as opposed to a RB for right now. Debuchy had an injury plagued season and could well be sold/put on the fringes due to the progression of Bellerin (at the same time, he could come back straight into the starting 11). This would leave us with two RB's (Jenks and Bellerin) which is good depth, plus Bellerin could shoot off to Barcelona at any time, like we all fear.

This is just one way I can make sense of the Jenkinson situation, I may be completely wrong - it's happened before.

07 Jul 2015 19:44:28
WoW so steve actually wants someone to stay who actually isn't that good. Come on mate what have u been upto.

{Ed025's Note - im phoning the drugs squad..

07 Jul 2015 21:17:08
Mystifier, jenko not that good. From what I saw last season, he was pretty good. he's young , improving, physical and playing every week. You obviously don't read me much as I think the youth should be given a fair crack to make it. Sanogo, coq and chambers all need or needed time to grow into their potential. Players like gibbs have had their chance and maybe he's a different kettle of fish. can't think he's been on loan much, so maybe there is something in that.

07 Jul 2015 21:18:10
It makes perfect sense what Steve is saying. Also him signing extension is only good news for club as if we were to sell him we would get more

07 Jul 2015 21:56:16
I agree with Steve too :-)
Jenks is a young player learning his trade. A few more seasons out of loan will do him the world of good.

Besides at the end of the day, if he doesn't become an Arsenal regular or is wanted by other clubs, then we have a asset we can sell. Doesn't do Chelsea harm with this model. They've been buying young players and loaning out for years.

07 Jul 2015 12:23:07
Since it is being reported this morning that Arteta has signed a new deal, does this mean as suggested our pursuit of a CDM will end, or is a new CDM being regardless of Arteta's future? Furthermore, do you have any information on Theo Walcott and his contract situation?

07 Jul 2015 13:03:46
I think that if a DM becomes available for the right price, Wenger will attempt to buy him as he's already proved that he is prepared to strengthen positions in the team that aren't necessarily a top priority (Cech for Ospina/Szczesny).

If this is the case, Arteta will be the new Flamini (3rd choice DM) and the new signing will be cover, or a replacement, to Coq. Remember, Arteta IS the captain and has a great off-the-pitch influence just by being involved in the club.

I saw an interesting question in a blog this morning that highlighted a point that the Gooners' thirst for a new DM signing may be related to the fact that Coquelin was something of an internal solution: if we bought Coquelin for £20m in January, would we all be screaming for Arsene to buy another now?

07 Jul 2015 11:19:12
Much as I really like Arteta, I am disappointed that we have extended his stay. He would not command a place in the squads of the two teams who finished above us. We needed to replace him with a younger, more mobile option. My own choice would be Schneiderlin.

07 Jul 2015 09:43:23
Hearing that Arteta has been handed a one year extension! Does this mean our hopes of having a new DM are slowly moving away? For me arteta isn't mobile enough!

Carvalho seems to be staying at sporting, with the manager having him in his long term plans

Schneiderlin Is getting bids from United. Seems like a matter of days before that one is done ( can't understand why we've let that slip! )

Vidal will go on till the last day but is Vidal really a DM? Everytime I've watched him for club or county he plays either attacking or box to box.

Any other targets EDS' Or do you think Wenger might be planning another classic arsenal gamble!

07 Jul 2015 07:17:34
Arteta has apparently signed a 1 year deal?

He may be a nice bloke but unfortunately he is a mediocre defensive midfielder. if arsenal are to move to the next level these are positions that have to be improved. He's just average at everything - aside 5 yard passes and penalties.

07 Jul 2015 09:33:05
I tend to agree, I'm not sure I see any positives

07 Jul 2015 09:56:40
A tad harsh.

He was a terrific player at Everton.

More of an attacking mid, even à Number 10.

At Arsenal, due to our surplus of AM's, Wenger dropped him deep, more of a DM.

Arteta sacrificed his normal game for the development of the team.

Granted, not the best DM in the world, but always gives his best, never complains and is a good Captain, who has always been respected by his team mates.

Yes, we need a younger, fitter more dynamic DM, but let's give Arteta the respect he deserves.

07 Jul 2015 10:28:38
Totally agree Dags as a DM Arteta makes an excellent king emperor penguin but that's not his fault its Arsenes.
He's done the job he was asked to do to the best of his ability and dispite being fairly useless at it never complain or gave less than his albeit inadequate best in this position.
Arsene tried to make him something he wasn't or could never be and its only Arsene's stubbornness that made Artetta and Arsenal less than they could have been for so many years trying to prove himself right all along.
Arsene has done far more good than bad for Arsenal football club and only a fool would argue against that but his stubbornness over the years has made sure many of those mistakes will be remembered every bit as much as his fantastic achievements, shame but true

07 Jul 2015 12:23:17
Sorry, don't get me wrong, I think Arteta has done well for us and as you guys say he has sacrificed his normal game.
I definetly don't mean to be disrespectful, I just think he will be a step back if he plays

07 Jul 2015 13:51:21
Agree G62.

It's OK DavidE, we know you didn't mean any disrespect, you just called it as you saw it, and that's fair mate.

07 Jul 2015 18:45:04
I agree with dags

{Ed025's Note - so do i mate...if it wasn,t for his jokes he would be a damn good poster.. :)