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07 Jun 2013 19:51:24
Hi
Don't want to be a party popper but funny how the season ticket deadline for renewing is ending today or tomorrow and Ivan makes statement like that, think it is just a another Ivan stunt if we go funds why they wasting time looking at people like Williams and Taylor.
07 Jun 2013 18:59:18
I don't think Fellaini is the solution to our problems and would be gutted if that's how we spent 24M plus I would guess 80-90000 a week in wages. He is not worth the money I want top draw in there position and Fellaini isn't in either of his as a DM or second striker.
Holmesy
07 Jun 2013 16:14:36
Chief executive of Arsenal used Wayne Rooney as an example when saying they are going into a new era of " financial power" so I Rooney of to the emirates?
Last year Wenger claimed he could sign Benzema if he wanted to.
Dont fall for it
It's the usual spout of bull by gazidis as he lures us in to renew our memberships! I will renew Ivan but your talk is cheap! Act now and get the players signed IF you say we are in a position to do so. Devongooner
07 Jun 2013 16:28:02
Apparently we have activated Fellaini's release clause would be absolutely amazing. IMO just what we need.
kb
07 Jun 2013 16:06:13
I have it on good authority, someone I trust who works at Arsenal that they are trying to sign Rooney and his words 'they wouldn't waste their time if Rooney hadn't said he was interested'.
The biggest obstacle now, he said, is the Man Utd's pride in whether that'll sell to Arsenal or abroad to one of two (my opinion) French clubs, or maybe even keep him and put some spin on it- label it a change of heart or clever negotiation skills by Moyes for brownie points.
They loved being able to poach RVP from us, it would wipe that glory if we did it to them.
Paul
Did you work that all out your self.
i think you should change your name to mystic meg or maybe septic tank.
malaga gooner
No need to be rude. You always have too much to say for yourself and are not nearly as funny as you think you are - Malaga Muppet
Yes you are right no name poster
paul.
i hope you except my apology for being abrupt and rude.
sorry
malaga gooner
07 Jun 2013 14:51:46
Regarding Rooney, there is definite interest from Arsenal from sources connected with the club.
According to the sames sources Higuain is another target for us and could well happen if Rooney doesn't. Hence the stalling so far.
A deal for Cesar at this point seems to be off due to the player's personal demands although if personal terms can be agreed it might happen but Arsenal would have to pay QPR compensation.
Fellani are spoken very highly by Wenger and is seen a a good fit having proven success in the Premier League. As far as stories go especially from David Ornstein, please remember this is the same tv Journalist that said a deal for Arteta was off and that RVP was keen to stay at Arsenal. According to Ornstein RVP was willing to stay after his holiday, whether a new deal was reached or not whilst RVP has come out and completely rejected those claims with his version of what happened behind the scenes.
Jovetic may happen if Fiorentina can drop their asking price of 25m but Arsenal remain interested and hope to agree a deal for just over 20m.
Josh09
07 Jun 2013 14:24:30
according to a web site, which is a reliable source, we have activated a clause in fellaini's contract. as much as this news will please many gooners, he is not the right player for us. we play a fast paced game and he is slow
He's about as quick as Vieira was which is quick enough. Class player, EXACTLY what our midfield needs.
AG
How can you say we don't need a player like fellaini?
i guess you just cannot please some ppl
after the way the last 5 years have gone in transfers you would think that gooners would be drooling over this, and yet some just continue on complaining
simply amazing
07 Jun 2013 14:23:06
Arsenal are not in for Cesar or Rooney Jovetic is still a target although Dzeko and Higuain are preferred.
Josh09
07 Jun 2013 14:13:16
Hey Eds
In your opinion when do you think we will see a potential takeover move from Usmanov?
Sheila {Ed029's Note - Ed02 provided some updates about this but there was nothing that put a firm put a date on anything.}
No he hasn't. {Ed029's Note - Actually he did.}
Ed02 for president!
still hoping you make a come back mate, I always appreciated your opinions and insight
(as with all the Eds of course!)
Peace,
Trinidad-Gooner
07 Jun 2013 13:41:35
could be unrelated to us but michu has been removed from the player profiles section of the swansea city website today.
No he has not
He actually was but was then returned once the error was noticed.
07 Jun 2013 20:54:46
This is one player I don't want. 3/4 of a good season.
07 Jun 2013 13:35:40
If this fellaini to Arsenal thing is true, I expect it to happen.
I don't see Manchester United willing to sanction a fee to capture fellaini, with uncertainty in their ranks regarding the wayne rooney situation.
Also they are monitoring the Ronaldo situation, and it is all about putting your eggs in the right basket.
in the end, they could end up losing, fellaini and rooney and even not get ronaldo. but on the flip side, they could get ronaldo and then fellaini to Arsenal may not be a game changer, neither will rooneys departure.
i still see united as waiting to pull something big, if not then cover their options.
not steal our bid for fellaini just because moyes is linked with him by the journos.
07 Jun 2013 13:23:27
I'm an Everton fan, so I think I have a reasonable perspective on the Fellaini situation, and this is how I see it (this is just my point of view, I don't have any inside information or anything).
I don't think Fellaini will join you and I think, for you, that is for the best. On his day, he is fantastic and literally unplayable, but these days don't come around as often as Match of the Day would have you believe. You either get a 10/10 performance, or a 1/10 performance. Not a lot in between. He has popped up with a goal in games which would have been a 1/10 and the media has hailed him as our best player, once again, when he has in fact been one of our worst players.
In terms of his style, he doesn't fit you either. In my opinion, you need a sensible, deep lying midfielder who will win the ball and lay it on to Arteta or Wilshere for them to do all the intricate, creative work. Morgan Schneiderlin would be perfect in my opinion. Fellaini isn't like that. His preference is to play in that role, but he isn't very good at it. He works incredibly hard, but he just can't tackle - he gives away a foul with every standing tackle, and hasn't done a sliding tackle in his entire Everton career - and because of his work rate, he finds himself miles away from where he should be, leaving the defense exposed. Put him as the second striker and then you get the best out of him, personally, but the rest of the team suffers. You find yourself lumping the ball up to his chest rather than playing to other players feet and the team performance becomes a lot worse.
Finally, there is Man U. You triggering the release fee doesn't put you in poll position. Chances are other teams will just do it sooner than they had planned and will be in the same position you are. With Man U:
- He likes Moyes, and Moyes likes him, so there is that.
-They are the champions
- Man U play a lot uglier football than you, which will suit him more
- He wouldn't have to move house to move there.
For all these reasons, I can only really see him going to Man U but if he does go to you, I can't see him being a huge success. This is just things how I see them, someone with quite a lot of spare time. If you disagree, that's fine and if he does sign for you, I'll accept I was wrong and genuinely hope I'm wrong about him being a flop because I only want him to do well and I want you back challenging for the title (I had a career mode with Arsenal on FIFA 07 and have been fond of them ever since), but I just don't foresee it happening.
AB1878
Been getting stick at college all day for saying I don't want fellaini, thank god i'm not the only one!
i hope to god wenger doesn't overspend to shut us lot up, schneiderlin seems a lot better like you say. and it seems more of a 'Wenger' signing, would love him at the Emirates.
and I think a lot of people are fond of everton as a club too, you seem to do it 'the right way' like Arsenal, if fellaini goes i'd be happy for you as you would invest it properly.
Okay well you can have Schneiderlin and we'll have Fellaini.
Also, didn't Everton fans say the same thing about Arteta?
Maybe Wenger knows he can't get Schneiderlin. Certainly it has been known for a while he was interested but I suspect if any contact was actually made with Saints the situation would have been clarified pretty quickly.
I will not say never, but certainly not this summer.
Saint Martin
Fellani is what we need, if we played him deeper he could be out net vier a, he elbows tugs shirts, and goes in with crunching tackles, the last proper no nonsense midfielder we had was vier a, sure there was gilberto but he wasnt an aerial presence, we need someone who can scare the opposition, that someone is fellani.
Bergkamp5353
07 Jun 2013 13:17:29
Manchester united fan here in peace. Just wanted to give my 2 cents on the Rooney to Arsenal rumour going on.
From a financial point of view, its no secret Arsenal are one of the most stable clubs in europe. And considering the fact you guys have the most expensive season tickets in the country, the board knows they have to give the fans something to cheer for. And in terms of making a statement of intent, what better way is there than to buy England's best player by quite a margin ( though imo Wilshere will soon overtake him)?
I read on here that some don't rate Rooney that highly. While Rooney has been having one of the worst seasons in his career, I think it has more to do with the fact that not only Van Persie became the focal point of our attack and Rooney had to make way to fit him, there's also the fact that the fans have warmed up to Van Persie who became the hero of old trafford. Therefore you could see he lost interest in playing with us, and his form and fitness have suffered.
But in terms of sheer ability and talent, few come close to Rooney when he's on form. For the past couple of seasons before RVP's arrival, Rooney carried the team to a premier league trophy and a champions league final, where he looked like the only player who could actually hurt Barcelona. And at Arsenal, he would be given the striker position he wants so badly so that he could do what he does best, score a bucket load of goals. The move woukd not only benefit Arsenal from a footballing point of view, but commercialy speaking Rooney is one of the most recognized faces in world football. The move woukd also benefit england hugely.
As a manchester united supporter living in france, I would love to see him in ligue 1 with PSG but with Rooney gone, that can't have a good effect on the premier league as a whole, since its looking likely that Suarez and Bale are also on their way out.
I. the premier league, Arsenal and Chelsea are the most interested parties and while Chelsea woukd be willing to pay a biggef transfer fee, the thought of an on form Rooney linking up with the likes of Mata, Hazard and Oscar is terrifying and with all due respect, I think Chelsea have a better team than Arsenal ( possibly best team in the premier league ) and with Mourinho at the helm, that's a scary project.
Any thoughts?
Mick
I think rooney has issues which worry me.
always see pics of him smoking fags on night outs and constant issues with fitness throughout his career.
Considering how united are very high on fitness and muscle build, going by most of the players you guys have, compared to arsenal, more on the side of endurance training rather than physical build, i'm not quite sure how rooney will do.
its not like he is obese, but if he has no motivation to prove himself at united, why would we want him?
granted that he is a great player on his day, I feel his time is up. you can get away with things like fitness in the early 20's but he's closer to 30 and every game means he needs to be at his optimum.
you don't see ronaldo and messi, having drinks and a cig on a weekend night out. they probably head home and wake up early to work even harder the next day. not that I have a issue with that. it just shows their determination to be the best of the best. and the gap between the rest shows.
for me the ideal arsenal signing is higuain. His stats are off the charts, and his efficiency in goals to game and goals to shot ratio is just phenomenal. RVP who?
Also Higuain is younger and his peak is yet to come. if Arsenal recognise the potential and the rewards. pairing higuain and fellani would not only be a coup, but the missing pieces of the jigsaw to go with our core.
at this moment it is all speculation, and logic dictates we should have rooney over higuain on our target list if there is one. but will united sell him to a EPL rival? I doubt that one.
to end it off I still think there is something regarding theo walcott and liverpool. not that anyone will believe me, but that's all I can say for now.
In my opinion, current England players 'better' than Rooney:
1. Hart
2. Cole (that hurt)
3. Baines
4. Lampard
5. Wilshere
Rooney has prioritised his private life issues over his career for some years now, and perhaps fairly enough. However he hasn't been as fit as he should be, everyone can see that, and his temperament hasn't improved from the angry 'red mist' teenager we all witnessed flourish on the world stage.
I would see signing him as a huge mistake and one of a very few 'panic buys' by Arsenal (only Jeffers comes to mind right now- buying an overpriced English player to please the fans)
Paul
Hey Mick,
Truth be told, I have always secretly loved Rooney and always maintained that if I could have one player from United, it would be him. He's a wonderful mix of strength and skill and plays with real passion. I agree that he's the best English player right now but that will be Wilshere's team in a few years.
I am sure that if he came to Arsenal to play striker he would score goals and would do well, but I have two concerns:
1) he's currently on 250,000 a week, our top earner is on 100,000 a week, would he really take such a massive pay cut to comply with our wage structure? Would Wenger break the wage structure for him?
2) assuming he plays striker as he said he prefers, where does that leave Giroud and Podolski?
I am more intrigued by the Fellaini rumours to be honest.
Peace,
Trinidad-Gooner
07 Jun 2013 15:33:11
As a gap filler to Football try following the British Lions on tour in Australia. Before someone comes back and says "What the Fu*k has this got to do with Arsenal?" I tell you friends, if we could emulate the players attitude & desire to be first choice in their position in the Test team, the fierce competition in the squad to raise their game in case their opportunity comes along, as well as the supportive team spirit, we (Arsenal) would cruse the Premiership and possibly produce another Invincible team! (Arsenal supporter for 45 years, Welsh Rugby supporter - all my life)
Totally agree, lions lions
So why does Higuain come from the bench most times and why does Real want to sell him?
Why we need both of them, I am a proper Arsenal fan and am not fond of shrek but he bosses people about, screams his head off and shows real passion.
Bergkamp5353
Far to many? marks surrounding rooney these days, is that what we want? to take a chance on a player whos motivation theses days is suspect, its not like he would be coming on a free for 40k a week is it? why do you think utd got rvp? because rooney has lost his edge over the last two seasons, utd are a massive club with a lot of history, if he can't motivate himself, or indeed stop smoking for them, then there's no chance of him doing it for anyone else.
trev the gooner
07 Jun 2013 13:06:45
i was the guy that said I saw j. cesar in harrods don't look that silly now,
my spanish friend at work seems to think we will sign tello or villa, twitter feeds seem to link us with a late move for damiao.
How do we make a late move in the middle of June?
Wouldnt mind tello could become great and it means chambo could play more centrally. In my opinion villa use to be one of the worlds best now he's past it
Bergkamp5353
07 Jun 2013 12:54:05
now that gazidis has come out saying arsenal will spend, I ask is he real or he just wants people to renew tickets? I just hope he is honest. we have been waiting for long. 8 years is a lot.
07 Jun 2013 12:49:46
The Times newspaper and Belgium newspapers are reporting this story about Arsenal and Fellani as it turns out, The Times sourced the story first and g.com found the story and searched it as well. The Time's sourcing it makes it more legitimate hopefully the deal goes through.
Josh09
07 Jun 2013 11:30:13
Stewart Robson is being his usual positive self, and slating Arsene Wenger. this guy speaks about as much sense as David Icke. mind you from certain angles Arsene does have a `lizard like` appearance. Wenger is going to prove all the `haters` wrong, so let's stand up for `The Cannon`. God Bless The Arsenal.
The Walrus.
I agree what a complete knob robson is- I heard what he said on the radio. I have never heard wenger say that those players will be world class- complete nonsense.
Fact is wenger has had to get the best he can within a budget- you can argue how well he has bought, but he never claimed that those players would turn out to be world class.
Didn't he used to play for you guys once upon a time a go?
07 Jun 2013 10:38:10
So M'Vila is taking a long time completing his medical.
Guys, I would take the Fellaini rumours with a massive pinch of salt. Just like every season (Such as the M'Vila rumours of last season) there will always be rumours that we have agreed fees and such.
07 Jun 2013 09:32:43
A lot of debate is raging on this site and other sites with regards to the rumoured new contract being offered to Wenger. As far as I am concerned, there are only 2 managers in world football who can do the job he is doing with the same ideals and care for the running of the whole club (including the academy). These are Klopp and Wenger himself. Klopp won't leave Dortmund as he is championing the same sort of project there as Wenger has been orchestrating at Arsenal.
We already have the best manager for the job, it would be huge news for him to sign a new deal with us. Everything is looking up for those of us whose cup is half full. Our best players are not leaving, players who have drained our finances for the last couple of seasons are moving on (Squid, Arshavin), we are in the champions league and finished above Spurs (as should always be the case) and the club, through Gazidis, has delivered a strong message to the footballing world today by saying Arsenal are now reaching the financial heights of the world's biggest clubs. That money, coming through a combination of new sponsorship, freed up funds from certain players leaving and of course the stadium debt rapidly diminishing, leaves us in a favourable state.
Mark my words, there is no better manager out there to take this club forward than Wenger himself. He knows serious strides have to be made in the transfer market this summer, and is not ignorant to the fact that Spurs came too close this season.
So let's keep the faith and get behind the manager and the club. Expect the usual summer furore of transfer expectation, and expect those couple of world-class signings to supplement the the younger players that will come in, both for the first team squad and the academy, which has been depleted following the release of 10 players, and the previously announced departures of the likes of Monteiro, Ebecilio and Angha.
HarrowGooner.
I totally agree with you. We have one of the best managers, only sometimes the players have not turned out to be what he had hoped so recently he had some lack of judgement regarding few players.
The way we have played against Bayern in the the return leg and for the past 2 months he is kind of vindicated to trust this set of players, only if these players have performed like this from the start and certain players could have stuck with Wenger a little longer.
Future is bright, so let's look forward to the next season!
SM
Agree wenger is a great manager, but world class signings? people need to stop doing crystal meth
07 Jun 2013 09:07:51
For the powers that be to come out and say "we have money" and "we can compete for players" to then not to, would be sick and twisted and quite sadistic.
I've mentioned it before, but the only thing us Arsenal fans want, is to look at our squad at the beginning of the season and think to ourselves, "That squad is good enough to compete. " I have no idea who we will buy, but I am optimistic we will.
WENGER KNOWS he needs to spend.
If he doesn't, then expect a lot of red seats and black scarfs on show at the Grove.
COME ON YOU GOONERS
Flybo
P. S
Has Wenger had an affair with Stuart Robsons' wife?
Just wondering :-)
Spot on flybo! It's clear. Gazidis has immense faith in Wenger but the money is there. It's seem s to me that there will not be any pressure on wenger to spend, but he certainly if he wants. What excites me is that we have a person to look at now if the squad isn't right come August. That said, wenger had come out himself and admitted there is money, and he has done this for two years now. This summer he can't go hiding. As le grove predicted, gazidis and Co have protected themselves with that interview and also shown just how much faith and power wenger has from them.
As for Robson, well,. I'd put money on wenger's wife being hotter even at her age!
I thought it was only me who was wondering! And lately Perry Grove's daughter as well?
Yeah, what's up with Stuart Robson? He has a massive downer on Wenger. Takes every opportunity to slag him off. You could be right - it does sound personal.
Gonad
07 Jun 2013 07:47:03
Very interesting reading from the Guardian, what Gazidis has to say and the future of Arsenal. If true then we could well be in for a treat in the very near future.
Andylat
Always talk no action. fellaini thing died quicker than a sewer rat stinking up a restaurant.
07 Jun 2013 07:39:50
Everton fan here seen all the reports today about the release clause being activated for big mo, anyone doubting the price tag only sees his motd highlights because the guy is unplayable, still young enough to learn and adapt he will do crazy things under wenger unfortunately anyway back to my point, I seen one website reporting its not the release clause you've activated but 16 million plus verm�len? Just want someone to confirm it or confirm there's bob hope of verm�len leaving as part of the deal as i'd ofc prefer the cash plus verm�len Than an extra 7 million think him and jagd would be quality, any EDs know anything? Or anyone infact?
Cheers
I heard it was the just the release clause. I doubt it would be Verm, no offense but I really can't see him lining up for you at the start of the season. Nor can I see the Fro lining up for us, think Man U will come in soon and pip us to the signing.
07 Jun 2013 07:02:12
Please. not Rooney. Over-priced, over-rated. If we're going to blow the wage structure and risk alienating the rest of the squad then let's do it for someone who's truly world class. I'd rather have Tevez!
Gonad
I have been amused to hear Man United fans saying he is behind van Persie anyway. Would they have said that two seasons ago? Truth is it was Wenger that made the van Persie we know today. Although I don't like Rooney, if truly we sign him, the world will see a brand new Rooney in six months.
I'm sorry but rooney has a proven record of getting over 25 goals a season, we have the most creative midfield in the prague, possibly second to Chealsea and the second best defence, rooney with the service will replace rvp. plus, i'd love to see Manchester United fan's reaction. oh how could he do this to the club when we've got stick from them for the whole season. Arsenal for the title!
Bergkamp5353
07 Jun 2013 02:24:22
Lets not get a "HEAD OF HAIR of our selfs;))
nothing concrete until its on the AFC website, I learned that the hard way.
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if any I is interested we are in talks to sign a world class striker. my bbq is giving nothing away but I think its lewandowski, I think the dortmund rb is to throw every 1 of the trail.
this is the transfer window we have all been waiting for, so let's enjoy it.
malaga gooner
ps, I really want to tell you the last bit of info, but I don't think the EDS would enjoy the abuse that would be posted.
lets just say it would be hard for any club to beat it, no MESSING.
Not sure if its this summer or next year.
Never thought I'd see the day that these words were said by MG
"nothing concrete until its on the AFC website, I learned that the hard way. "
For once I'm almost, yes I've said almost, believing the Lewendowski news. Partly because of the recent links with Podolski to Dortmund.
2+2=5 though I tend to think on this happening.
Malaga- You said about 9 months ago you have no source and apologised for the stupid guessed posts because you were inbetween jobs and bored.
Why come back now?!
At least you've stopped using all the other names you used to use
Malaga has only ever been Malaga! Not Metal, CC, not anyone. He didn't have any other names for Christ's sake.
I don't know how many times the eds have to clear that up. Nice one Ted.
Plese tell us the last peace of info, I ussually find the players malaga links us to are great with arsenal on career mode. for me they've all put on an Arsenal shirt
Bergkmp5353
07 Jun 2013 00:12:50
Hi Ed's
Lot of people posting the rumours of Fellani to arsenal but haven't seen any editor say anything about this. Any of you have any inside information on it? Thanks for your time keep up the great work :) {Ed027's Note - Not a clue
Thank you anyway ed027, fingers crossed though right!
D16