Arsenal Banter Archive April 08 2017

 

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08 Apr 2017 14:24:09
It's the raver coming through in his Subaru, I've just topped up my tan while watching the best football side in the league cruise to another win.

R.G, the classy dele alli has scored more goals than the whole Arsenal midfield lol and you think iwobi is better and to make things worse the lethal Harry Kane Is back, beep.

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08 Apr 2017 15:20:49
Your time in the sun has finally arrived Raver mate its been a long time coming for you boys, enjoy it you've done brilliant under Poch mate.
I just hope it proves only to be a mini heatwave for you Spurs fans and not a full blown long one that leaves us in the shade for more than a season.

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08 Apr 2017 16:14:11
I'm thrilled for you Rav, have you ever seen spuds this high in the league? It must be v exciting for you?

Let's hope you don't sell this Summer, I know Levy has got his budget wrong for the stadium.

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08 Apr 2017 19:03:35
Raver, I'm enjoying watching Chelsea play Bournemouth, good match isn't it? The pain at the lane just goes on 1961.

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08 Apr 2017 19:41:03
14 points behind your mighty neighbours and no champions league football next year, bye bye Sanchez and co.

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08 Apr 2017 19:59:03
Raver when it actually becomes mathematically impossible for us to catch you i hope you're not going to make a big thing of it mate? :-)

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08 Apr 2017 22:48:49
I can remember when Spurs won the League. That's because I'm a pensioner and was alive when the world was black and white.

It was way back when the world was younger then. I could take my then girlfriend out for a meal and drinks and get change from a ten bob note, normally five bob. What fun we had on holidays all down to Hi de Hi land knobbly knees and glamours granny competitions. Breakfast, dinner. and tea in a big canteen. Sometimes it even stoped raining.

Oh they were the days, then as if the modern world took over. Swinging London full of music joy and colour (mainly red) the sun reappeared in the sky shining down casting huge great shadows where the world didn't develop and people were sad. Ahhh the memories of an old man, it was so long ago and far away. So long that there are old people that don't remember it. Sometimes I think it might be just my imagination. Maybe it is.

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09 Apr 2017 02:20:25
Forget the last time Spurs won the league. When was the last time Spurs even topped the league for one day? I cannot recall it at all in the 47 years I have been following football.

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09 Apr 2017 08:42:29
Raver - Bournemouth - 1961 - 7 points - Trophies won during your lifetime? Mum's rusty Subaru. The pain at the lane and Wembley, just goes on.

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09 Apr 2017 12:26:09
Sagalout the 60s must have been a nightmare for you watching Tottenham winning everything the double, fa cups and watching jimmy greaves smashing Madrid for spurs to become the first British club to win a European major.

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09 Apr 2017 17:36:08
Ahh so long ago so far away. What 6 seasons in the sun raver and so long. Those 6 yrs in the sun raver. Paid for by so much shadow since. 2 good managers Arthur Rowe and Billy Nick. But those years in Div2.
Sadly the list of honours tween our 2 clubs sadly and disapointadly leaves yours lagging. The top 3 clubs in England re honours are Man U, Liverpool and The Arsenal. Not sure where you come on the list.
I worry for you as the price of your stadium rises by the month. But for the first time since about 65 you've a decent team. You play good stuff nearly as good as Blanchflower's side.
But next season looking for a new manager deep in debt hmmmmm. I hope you get thru it but I do worry for you. Now you are in London (you arrived late in '66) and being a Middlesex boy, I want success for all our London teams, so good luck on your long jny to catch us up over here on the brightside of the road.

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09 Apr 2017 20:00:04
We were also better than you in the 80s saga with hoddle, ardiles and co as we won more trophies.

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10 Apr 2017 09:07:04
Sadly it's a chat that can last forever it's easy to pick a period where one team is over another. The only way to truly judge is over a 100yrs cause that shows consistency. Over the last 100yrs apart from about 3-5 seasons we have won more honours. Obviously I'm not including such luminous honours as 'hospital cups'. But just add them up.
Never mind mate you nearly chose right just a matter of looking at where that shining light glowing gently in the soft morning lights and realising something wonderful was in Highbury walking down seeing the glory all around and knowing this was home. 😄
Enjoy your time in the sun it will as always be brief. Oh and I do enjoy your posts they can be fun.

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08 Apr 2017 12:27:34
A bit off the wall maybe but would anyone take Marco Siva as manager?
Looks like he knows his way around the PL already. Dark horse but maybe.

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08 Apr 2017 13:02:17
Yes I would and named him in a list on here a few weeks ago. Frankly I'd take Long John Flippin'Silver over Wenger at the moment.

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08 Apr 2017 13:41:25
I know the feeling Max😂.

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08 Apr 2017 13:47:24
I'd be happy with short Bill bronze as his assistant too Max mate :-)

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08 Apr 2017 06:00:05
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08 Apr 2017 04:54:21
We really need a top notch striker and I can already feel the disappointment coming. Not all down to us but Chelsea, City and Utd all need at least 1 additional striker.

Where does that leave us - scrapping for a risky deal. If we don't get top 4, sort Ozil Sanchez plus manager contracts out immediately after the final whistle of the last game then we will be chasing the pack again as too much uncertainty added to lack of success added to poor budget.

Sort out the instability please BOARD - it's going to hurt us.? Extend his contract, set tough target and give him the budget to achieve it. Then tell him to bring in a Keown type player to train the defence. Then start working on our old fashioned way of turning defence into attack in seconds rather than our current slow ass attack. I don't care about shouting from the side but I want some leaders who boss the players around on the pitch, in warm ups and at halftime.

Come on - enoughs enough -> let's get it done and start acting like a club that wants to WIN the league not come top 4. Come on BOARD!! Sort your responsibilities out.

If you are only happy investing top 4 budget and top 4 is the goal -> then tell your customers so we know what to expect

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08 Apr 2017 09:45:48
Agree on the top striker requirement SY. The trouble is, the board did give Wenger nearly 100m to spend in the transfer market last year, more than enough to get a top striker, but he decided to blow the majority of it on two players we didn't need and then spent what was left on a cheap striker that he doesn't bother to play. If you were the board why would you give him any more money? Also we already have a keown type player coaching in Steve Bould, who obviously is told by Wenger to keep quiet as if you remember him playing there is no way he would stay quiet.

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08 Apr 2017 09:52:34
What if the board try to implemented all the things you ask SY but Arsene won't accept thier changes?
What if Arsene says i will not work under such conditions?
Arsene is in the totally unique position where 50% of the fans value him above results while 20% of fans are desperate for both Arsene and competitiveness while the other 30% have had a enough and want a new manager next season.
I personally think the board should be brave and do what's right for Arsenal regardless of what Arsene wants but i do accept they are in a uniquely​ difficult position where they will get the blame for all that goes wrong if Arsene stays but will face massive hostility if they try and make changes that result in Arsene not being manager next season either by not renewing his contact or by making changes he won't accept and he walks.

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08 Apr 2017 12:43:46
There's a lot of truth in what you say there mate. One thing I have noticed whilst been at games is the warm ups before and at half time, especially noticeable against the top teams that have come to the emirates this year namely psg, Munich and city.

Their warm ups seemed structured and regimented whilst our players appear to just pass the ball around with no real organisation. It looks all very relaxed whilst opposing teams are doing sprints the cones are out the passing is in tight circles. I'm no football coach so don't know if it makes a difference or not but it's something I always notice.

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08 Apr 2017 12:45:32
I'm genuinely sick of reading headlines where a quality player is rumoured to be leaving his club and Wenger declares an interest in failing to sign him.

There is no way we are going to buy a quality striker, we are going to have to produce one.

The owner has already declared no interest in winning the title, he is perfectly happy with what the club achieves and how it's being run.

What owner in their right mind would sit back and watch their two best players leave if they had a modicum of ambition?

I don't see us achieving a great deal under Kroenke's leadership. Everything is in place to move up a level and he clearly has no want to do that.

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08 Apr 2017 13:30:50
Martin keowen a very strong Arsene supporter has just said on football focus Arsene runs Arsenal top middle and bottom and he doesn't see Arsene relinquishing that power as it's something he has always resisted in the past.
If a football ambitious owner came in as at city Utd or Chelsea then they would not put up with Arsene's​ resistance to change for even a season.
For Arsene to continue he needs a weak money focused owner and board to be in place, Usmanov has often stated that Arsene is Arsenals greatest asset why? Because he knows if he wants to gain control of Arsenal it will be easier to achieve with the fans on his side and to the fans on his side he needs to be pro Arsene but much like politicians seeking power what he says to get elected isn't necessarily what he has in mind once he has it.
Only an owner who isn't afraid to upset the fans can make Arsenal great again.

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08 Apr 2017 13:47:59
62 - on your question to me above. If Wenger doesn't accept it and the board are commuted to investment and progression then unfortunately it's no Wenger as I support Arsenal FC. I really want the board to do their job for the club or step aside and let another board do so.

Progression and ambition is what I want as well as doing the right thing so the club is around for my great grandkids.

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08 Apr 2017 13:55:41
Not sure what the deal is with Bould. He must go mental at the zonal marking mess, especially as even TH14 pulled our zonal philosophy to bits and he doesn't always seem the sharpest as a all round football expert like a Neville. He was p@ssed at our zonal marking and rightly so. So what the hell does Bould think? Keown is very pro-Arsenal not sure pro-Wenger but knows where his bread is buttered so won't be too outspoken but he still has a little dig when needed but professionally. Would love to see Keown in the training staff -, he stands for everything our club needs and he's a great guy plus loves OUR club.

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08 Apr 2017 13:44:31
Your bang on stoner it's by far more the owners that hinder this great club. We will only sign and have signed top players that have been unfancied elsewhere. Current on form players can pick and we are unfashionable in Europe .

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08 Apr 2017 14:10:23
I agree SY mate but I'm not sure the board have the nerve to stand up to the fans by upsetting Arsene.
The board are not popular but by allowing Arsene a free hand are tolerated if the board go Arsene goes too but if Arsene goes the board have to suddenly man up and show real football ambition.
Arsene need the board and the board need Arsene to maintain the current situation for the foreseeable future.

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08 Apr 2017 14:32:39
62 - probably right but I think a non top 4 finish and our two stars not signing contracts has made them sit up and take note. The next step is an important one that will define the short term future of the club because everyone else is investing and improving. The top 6 are pretty strong while 3 of those have an unlimited budget.

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08 Apr 2017 14:54:12
As far the board backing Arsene is concerned I just don't see what more they could have or can do than back him with everything he has asked for 100% SY mate, the more Arsene spends the worse our points total becomes season in season out.
The only blame that can be liad at boards door is their handling of Arsene surely.
Arsene himself admits they have never refused him anything he has asked for.

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08 Apr 2017 00:19:47
Say Sanchez makes up his mind and wants to leave (Probably 70-80% likely at this point) . Would you rather:

Sell him for whatever the likes of PSG, Juventus, Chelsea etc will pay for him. Granted nowhere near his transfermarkt value of £55m given he is going into the final year of his contract.

Or do we keep him regardless and let his contract run down.

I personally think if he is here another season he will continue to give 100% and perform for us, I can't see him doing a Payet or Tevez and refusing to play. there's always a slim chance that if we show ambition in the transfer market and do better next season he might sign a new deal if we offer him the £200-£250k a week he is worth.

Thoughts?

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08 Apr 2017 01:12:58
Pay him what he wants, it will cost a lot more to buy someone to replace him, with someone not as good. Players like sanchez do not come around too often. He is one of them irreplaceable type players. Whatever we do we can't sell him to another prem team, ever.

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08 Apr 2017 12:40:31
Get rid of some of the deadwood and use that money to pay him what he wants.

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08 Apr 2017 14:03:47
Steve do you honestly believe it's money with Sanchez. Obviously a pay rise is a must but I'm sure the main deal breaker is direction and ambition with him!

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08 Apr 2017 18:11:49
I don't know though. I reckon it's a bit of both.

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08 Apr 2017 23:54:48
Sano, he obviously wants to see ambition as well but that's no different to most fans. I think the money is obscene but that's the game nowadays and we won't get better value than giving him a payrise instead of buying and paying someone else not in the same class and costing in the end far more.

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09 Apr 2017 20:06:08
No he can get the wages we offer anywhere. He wants to win things and earn good money. And why not.

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