Arsenal Banter Archive June 08 2018

08 Jun 2018 16:10:59
So i see Leicester have announced the signing of Jonny Evans for the much publicised bargain basement fee of £3.5 million. This is the same player and fee constantly linked by the press with hard up Arsenal, and yet he signs for someone else with no mention he was stolen from under our nose! Another reminder to not believe anything you read in the press in regards to our supposed transfer targets or our so called limited transfer budget. If we genuinely have little or no money to spend then why didn't we go in for him!

08 Jun 2018 17:12:33
Wenger was apparently interested in him, Emery obviously isnt.

08 Jun 2018 17:42:55
Hopefully this means we are not looking for cheap solutions but the right solutions at the best price available.
So far we have shown real (non media hype) interest in only 3 players one we've signed, one we look almost certain to sign Papawhatever and the young lad from psg who works at Aldi.
If we are only interested in bringing in certain players who fit the jigsaw Emery is putting together well then that's fine by me whether they are freebies or what ever, huge fees never excited me much I'd rather sign the player regardless of fee than try to impress people by spending for the sake of it.
Next May only points will matter and £s will be totally irrelevant as to whether the new management team has done well or not.
75 plus points will have us all :-)

08 Jun 2018 18:02:16
I would think we have papawasarollingstone all tied up and he is one of two maybe in defence.

08 Jun 2018 18:53:58
Papawasarollingstone:-) love it Steve :-)

08 Jun 2018 20:25:44
Papawasarollingstone 😂😂😂.

08 Jun 2018 09:53:19
Steve, in terms of Bellerin how can you think he is so bad? The guy has to operate the whole right flank on his own with next to no protection. The team was so unbalanced that you literally can’t blame him. Modern day football isn’t as simple as having 11 world beaters who look good on paper, it’s building a team where units are cohesive. Every player deserves a fresh chance under the new manager and I for one am sure just like ox Bellerin would flourish elsewhere.

08 Jun 2018 10:13:50
I am hoping that Bellerin will shine under Emery. Personally, I do not want to see him or Xhaka go anywhere. They are both brilliantly talented players and just need to focus on what they are good at! Neither of them have been coached to their strengths and have been bullied in to the old Arsenal way of sideways passing and overplaying. They aren't the only two either!

08 Jun 2018 10:14:59
Totally agree mate, I'm not a fan of Xhaka Mustafi or Iwobi but if Dick wants to give them a fresh start so will I.
Belerin despite being the youngest for some reason has copped the most stick and the only obvious reasons I can see for that is because the expectations are higher of him than the rest, why? Because he's actually delivered at a high standard consistently for a season and half where the other apart from Kos have only ever done it in short bursts here and there
It's not Burnley or St Johnston who are interested in Belerin but Barcelona and Juventus and that has to tell us something.

08 Jun 2018 11:54:58
There are so many examples of this. Bonucci at Milan, Pogba at United, Zlatan at Barcelona. Otamendi last season vs. this season.

Give Bellerin, Xhaka and Mustafi a chance and I think they will take it. More conserned with Iwobi and chambers who in my opinion doesn't have enough intensity.

08 Jun 2018 12:32:17
Im sorry i don't rate bellerin or xhaka. My original point was, rumours are we are still in for a right back. IF true, neither does Emery. I see things in both those players that tell me they are not geared for prem football, not at the level we aspire too. If the boss can make a silk purse out of a sows ear, then he will do miracles for us.

08 Jun 2018 14:39:52
If Emery doesn't rate Belerin then it's right he should cash in on the lad, personally I think he would be making a mistake but it's what he thinks that matters as he has do what is best for the team and squad not individuals careers.
Arsenal or elsewhere Belerin will come good again, he hasn't lost all that ability that he showed consistently for 18 months week in week out, he's just lost his confidence and I'm sure if we don't Jurgen and others will happily help him get it back again.
Some players are inconsistent because they think they are a lot better than they are when in fact they play a few good games here and there in patches but are equally poor at other times, Hector doesn't fit in that bracket as a player or person in my opinion.

08 Jun 2018 15:07:43
I suppose Gunner the question is do we miss ox, will we miss bellerin? The answer to that would be who we get in to replace them regardless of how they do elsewhere. We seem to have got a player better suited to us than he was at man u. Do they miss him? Its all about who plays in their ex place for you.

08 Jun 2018 15:58:15
I think the criticism put on Bellerin is absolutely fair, in that he lost any ability to defend, coupled with his complete inability to offer anything going forward other than a sideways or backward pass. You can see better crosses at the local park on a Sunday morning than he can deliver, despite the fact he was supposedly a forward before becoming a full back? Perhaps he should watch some videos of Monreal, who despite his many critics, offers more as an attacking threat in 5 minutes than Bellerin managed in the whole season. However, despite this criticism, i think he is ultimately a good player, who has just lost his way, and i am sure we will see him back to his best soon.

08 Jun 2018 18:05:15
Epping agree but for me, bellerin was never the same after Alonso clattered him. For me also his bravery is in question and for a defender that's no1 requirement. Reyes was the same, one tough game and he didn't fancy it anymore.

09 Jun 2018 22:30:09
Reyes was a total shock in how badly he fell away Steve. He looked the part for us, and then fell away massively, and unlike some other players who re-ignighted their form and career after they left us, such as Carlos Vela, I don't think Reyes ever really picked up his career again.

09 Jun 2018 23:54:40
Epping Reyes just didn't fancy a bruising battle and neither does bellerin. In bellerins case, with him being a defender, he has to look forward to a dual, take it on with relish and he doesn't.

08 Jun 2018 06:15:48
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 8th June 2018

08 Jun 2018 07:12:46
Hard to believe we had Joel Campbell for 6 years, was he ever here for a whole season?

Ed01 thanks for the Tyson write up, I found the other pages from the boxing site, great read. 😁👍🏼.

{Ed001's Note - waste of a talent that with Campbell!

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed.}

08 Jun 2018 07:45:44
Totally agree Campbell much like Gnarby for some strange reason wasn't given a fair chance by Arsenal despite doing well on the very rare occasions they got a glimpse of first team football.

08 Jun 2018 08:50:39
I sure after we brought Rene Adelaide he was getting a bit of game time when Iwobi was and Adelaide looked way better but Iwobi some how gets in the first team. Baffling to say the least.

08 Jun 2018 09:23:52
The same with Xhaka regardless whether anyone rates him or not he has obviously struggled for the whole 2 seasons since he joined us but was an ever present in the team and we even let Le Coq and Ox go because we couldn't find room for them before the the struggling Xhaka?
Arsene certainly did some very baffling things with players and it does seem if your face fitted you were in and if it didn't you were excluded unless injury forced the issue.

08 Jun 2018 10:05:21
For all arsene was lauded for his youth policy his record wasn't that great in my opinion.

08 Jun 2018 10:18:37
Xhaka and a number of others haven't been coached based on their strengths. Sanchez, Ozil, Xhaka, Bellerin, Mustafi and Iwobi are some among a long list of players who looked promising but then fall in to the standard Arsenal regime. Sideways passing, slowing the game down, not feeding balls through to the strikers who like to make runs in behind, no shooting outside the 6 yard box, the list goes on. Emery will allow the players to show what their capable of and I believe some of these players will shine! Not everyone can succeed but certainly some of them will!

08 Jun 2018 12:03:53
I think the biggest change the players will benefit from and enjoy is being able to tackle properly in training, non physical training has made us soft mentally and physically over the years and I think we will all see a huge difference very quickly from this one change alone.
You can't train for a boxing match by only shadow boxing, if you want to be at your peak on fight night you've got to throw and take some punches in training to be ready for the real thing.

08 Jun 2018 12:34:06
Cambell hasn't really torn it up away from arsenal. Average Jo for me.

08 Jun 2018 14:45:02
But at Arsenal he out performed Ox and Walcott when injuries gave him his chance but still he's was dropped once they were fit, as Arsenal wingers Joel showed more consistency in the 7 or 8 game run he got than Theo or Ox ever did.
For some reason he just didn't fit in despite showing fantastic effort during his short run of games.