Arsenal Banter Archive May 08 2014

08 May 2014 23:15:34
Arsenal poll of the day.

Is Giroud good enough?

Currently stands at 50/50.

Interesting to say the least.

Personally, I voted yes. I just think if you stick somebody alongside him, even Remy or Bony, we would get even more out of him.

Hes not what I look for in a striker. Lacks pace, not mobile, not especially good in the air and I don't see us winning anything with him as our main striker. I would suggest if it is 50/50 then he isnt. Would henry, wright or rvp be 50/50 I think therr is your answer.

You are spot on Dags he has scored 22 goals, let's say he scores another 3, how can we not be happy with a striker who scores that many when playing up front on his own?

Steve . those strikers you have mentioned would walk into any team in the world on their day, also look how many times Giroud has set others up, how much pace did Teddy Sheringham have?

Im sorry I don't rate him but I dont. He is not up to the level required to beat the best. If we played villa Newcastle stoke palace totenham or swansea every week fine, he's capable. I just don't think he has the tools for the elite teams.

Banbury for us to compete with any team in the world our strikers have to be good enough to play for them to be good enough to play against them

What a joke. So you've got to be good enough to play for the other team if you wanna play for our team. glad you ain't the manager

Jack if you take the time to read the whole posts you might just gry yhe gist.

Jacks right here steve,

is giroud good enough to work with the blitzing attacking speed of liverpool?

No.

Is he good enough to run on to through balls from nasri and david silva at citeh?

No.

is he good enough to play the lone striker at chelsea with his overlapping midfielders in oscar and hazard?

Yes.


one player doesn't make the team, in the same way utilizing wallcott as a defensive striker, holding up play ect, is stupid. saying giroud isn't good enough for certain teams is silly when they play completely different to the striker.


is giroud good enough for a guaranteed starting spot? imho not quite.

is he good enough to wear the red and white of the arsenal? I think so. we just need that fast attacking finisher, which we may have in Theo

Is he good enough for man u, no, is he good enough for real, no, is he good enough for barca, no, is he good enough fot bayern, no. The answer was a reference to something banbury had said. But I still say if hesnot good enough for the top teams why is he good enough for us.

And i'm pretty sure maureen hiho won't be banging down our door to get him.

08 May 2014 21:53:00
Ed, can you do the list of possible ins, outs, and players of interest for Arsenal at this time? Thank you

{Ed002's Note - Remind me next week.}

You must be mad EDs, that will change daily lol

{Ed002's Note - Fine, if it is not going to be of any use I won't bother then. I appreciate you letting me know.}

Pleasure :)

08 May 2014 16:41:29
The Ox is still out, get the feeling they over played him on his return and he's in for another of these mysteriously long lay offs. Hope not.

I would swear here but best not!

Bit harsh there Jenny, this is Arsenal, we don't do long lay-off's.

Oh, hold on.

#Tongue in cheek.

A mate from London has heard a whisper that he won't feature again for Arsenal this season, normally he is pretty good with info, though on this occasion he is 50/50.

Lets hope he doesn't feature and stay at home to watch the WC with Theo on the TV

Ive heard jack and the ox are almost fine.

with nothing to play for they are being rested for the wc, as wenger believes the experience of being an important player at a WC will do them both the world of good.

08 May 2014 14:04:16
tabling a £20m bid for a player valued at £32m.

and so it begins.

08 May 2014 14:55:23
Don't you just love the press, it must be like Christmas for them approaching a transfer window.

Especially with us, knowing the history of our spending, but what we the fans actually want Arsenal to do.

Keeps the money pouring into the bookies too, they must be making a killing off United right now.

Patience is definately going to be a virtue this summer, so just hang on and enjoy the ride.

Pointless fretting.

I really don't see many munich players moving, its not like they have had a rubbish season.

they may have lost the champions league to eventual winners but they have won the league and could win the cup against dortmund.

Besides Kroos who may join united, if they are offering what is being touted, then I don't see any other player leaving bayern, perhaps some who are on the fringes leaving and they will add more key players if there is such a thing for them.

Madrid, Barcelon, Man utd, Chelsea, PSG, will be the ones who will sell big key players to raise cash to make even substantial bids on other players.

We will land Lars bender, if we can agree a deal, and then we will pick up the what remains from the inflated auction.

Once Madrid land their Main striker then the other teams will react. If Aguero is actually on the move it may force a reaction from barca, if the messi rumours are to be believed, which means Madrid act, which means money goes a bit nuts and then we will slide in with some crazy offers, make some deals and call it a transfer window.

but yet again I do not see us adding that special or world class player until the last week of the transfer window, going by what wenger said, and the fact the world cup will just inflate prices.

I don't think Arsene is unhappy with what we got (scary I know) he will only spend if the player he really wants is available, ie last season no Saurez no striker.
We will deffinately strengthen the squad but as for players who can make our best 11 if its not exactly who he wants it ain't going to happen.

08 May 2014 10:10:21
Question for the Gooners:

Will the likes of Sagna, Mertesacker and Giroud play this weekend or will they be rested for the FA cup? Will AW want to show off some of his youth players seems Arsenal cannot finish no higher or lower than 4th? Thanks.

I'd like to see the likes of bellerin, eisfeld and akpom given a go,
Like you say there's no point risking injury to key players.

I expect the team will look something like this;

Szczesny, Jenkinson, Per, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Flamini, Wilshere, Gnabry, Zelalem, Rosicky, Sanogo.

The FA Cup final team will be something like;

Fabianski, Sagna, Per, Kos, Gibbs, Arteta, Ramsey, Ox, Ozil, Cazorla, Giroud. (if Ox is not fit then Podolski)

Thanks for the replies, my rivals on my Dreamteam are close behind me and they have Sagna and Giroud. I am hoping AW plays Sanogo seems he's been disappointing and this game could be perfect to break his duck.

Have to be careful 'resting'players' as they need to be match sharp. Prefer to give them some time on the pitch at least.

Would love to see Jenks get a game if Bac is leaving us

08 May 2014 01:39:14
on the Arteta Vs Kallstrom debate, for me they take up the same role in the squad(next season at least,

experienced (aka older)
midfielder
Benchwarmer

in my opinion arteta is the more possession minded, and is good when the going gets good, but seems to have forgotten his route to arsenal, via scotland and merseyland.

Kallstrom for me has the legs on arteta and is more direct, I see him synergising with rosicky well and from what i've seen his standing tackle is much better.

Arteta obviously has more weight in the dressing room, which could be argued is the most important factor given his role (experienced midfield
Benchwarmer) but as a bench player i'd rather someone who can change a game than someone who can keep one ticking over, and kallstrom to me has more chance of doing that.

Loyalty to players is something i'd like to factor, but at the end of the day we just have to ask a few players in the top 3 about loyalty and there's only 1 i'd listen to, even if he slips up now and then :P

Thoughts?

Neither Arteta or Kallstrom are the type of player to "come on and change a game". Both are exactly the type of player to bring on to hold the fort.

In any case, Kallstrom won't be here next season so discussing his suitability is pointless.

Alright let's try this one more time, so-called ARS supporters;

- Arteta on short notice took a gut in pay to join our beloved team,

- he has prolific offensive talent but subdues it for the benefit of the team and helps with wonky season,

- critically switches positions knowing he will not get the credit he deserves and works tirelessly for the club,

- is one of the best guys in the clubhouse that all the others look up to and helps welcome the Cazorla types,

So when he is lumped in with some nobody who was here for a cup a tea, its a joke. He should be allowed to go out on his own terms - if he wants a support role fine, if he deserves to start (my opinion) great, if he wants a more front line role elsewhere fine - he has earned the right to choose because he gave it all for the club. Nuff said!

You keep crowing Rosster - greqt post. We should all look towards the loyalty the player has given and the ability he still has and treat him with RESPECT!

Hi red rooster.
excellent post, totally agree.
M Arteta is awesome and plays for the team, does the role set for him, and puts 100% in every time. some of the rest should look to do similar.
smashing post!:)
COYG andi:)

I like your questioning of supportive loyalty rooster, even though you couldn't be bothered to type ARSENAL out :P

but on a serious note, arteta has been a loyal player, who's attacking prolificness is really relative to averageness at arsenal.(we mainly sign attacking passers)

he took a 10k p/w pay cut.
its like a 12% pay decrease (which is a lot even I admit, and i'm used to 10% agent fees for my art.)
but you forget the added win bonus' from champions league football which arteta was desperate for.

if a player is simply doing his job for 'deserving credit' and not for the actual team then I want him as far away from us as possible (unless its nxt door)

i stated that he has massive weight with the foreign lads at arsenal, but what do we want a HR worker or a decent player?