Arsenal Banter Archive November 08 2017

08 Nov 2017 18:26:17
We should not even be considering any wage rise to Ozil, clubs are not exactly qeuing up to sign him are they. He is a luxury Arsenal cannot afford. In the case of Sanchez if we progress further in the cup competitions and if he gets a sniff of a medal than i think he will do the
business. Walcott is one i would unload pretty sharpish as Coquelin. The main point is with the above mentioned players with the possible exception of Sanchez is they are all recipients of Arsenes biggest fault that is his loyalty to players who are not good enough or have no heart in the club. Another point is what do people think is Kroenkes cut off line in respect of giving Arsene the sack a disappointing season I. E. No trophies No Europe and the possibility of plummeting season ticket sales . Arsene is only Stans man if he is making him money. I was talking to a West Ham fan at work and he came up with the scenario of bad season for us, bad world cup for France and Arsene goes and rides to the rescue for his native country
Oh how i wish.

08 Nov 2017 20:18:46
I doubt that kronk even looks at tables or cup comps. It is all about money and he will give wenger at least the two years.

09 Nov 2017 09:37:33
If we went from invincibles to our current setup over one season there would be absolute outrage and demands for change from every man woman and child, it's the slow but sure decline over a 15 year period that has made everyone's expectations slowly but surely sink and sink to new levels of acceptance.
If you could go back and speak to your 2004 self and ask " what's the minimum we should expect this season I'm sure you would answer "top 2 in the league and champions league last 4 "
A very far cry from today's top 7 and cup new absolutely mimimum requirement.
We just keep lowering and lowering the bar why? So everyone can still get over it why? So everyone can continue to get over it i guess.
Just imagine the summer of 2004 that arsenal had sold Vieira Henry Bergkamp and brought in the quality of Xhaka Welbeck and Giroud to replace them? We'd have gone crazy, but slowly but surely our expectations have declined so much we've lost track of just how huge our club really is and exactly what it really is capable of achieving, still!

09 Nov 2017 09:58:13
Ask yourself this question are your current expectations of Arsenal football club or Arsene Wenger?
Do you believe Arsenal football club are no longer capable of challenging for titles or Arsene Wenger is no longer capable of challenging for titles?
If the answer is Arsenal are no longer capable then ok let's just carry on as we are
But if you really feel the club is sill capable then surely it's not rocket science how we start the long journey back to our former self's again.

09 Nov 2017 13:20:46
In a nutshell. We are a cup team.

09 Nov 2017 19:04:41
You can live in a state of denial for as long as you want but it will be apparent when Wenger finally goes and we still achieve nothing that the clown Kroenke is the reason this club has maintained a 4th place is fine attitude.

He has absolutely no want to invest in the team to take it to the next level as with all his American teams, mediocrity is just fine.

We are simply buying enough in the way of players to achieve that, never enough to win big things.

No owner worth a toss would allow contracts to run down or continue to employ the same man who doesn’t go the final mile if he really had that winning attitude.

Give me the Mansour’s and Abramovich’s of this world every single day of the week over that dufus who owns Arsenal.

09 Nov 2017 19:07:12
We are for now Dags.
We are currently in the middle between top and 10th places and heading in the wrong direction.
We've dropped so far in the last decade you have to wonder where we will be in 10 years time if we carry on with the same people running the club.
If Newcastle get the right owner and Everton the right manager it's easy to see how even the europa league places might become extremely difficult to get in the future if we continue as we are.

08 Nov 2017 14:10:54
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08 nov 2017 12:20:34
does anyone believe ozil will be given a new contract for £300,000 a week. personally speaking the way he's been playing i wouldn't pay him £30,000 a week.
if we were not so thin on the ground and for the fact we just can't seem to attract any decent players or they just don't want play for us i would show him the door.

08 Nov 2017 12:47:13
Hi Kick off - No I'm not sure he is worth £300,000 a week. I have a feeling there is very little true interest in signing him at such extortionate wages, despite being on a free. Just to irritate raver61, I mean Sanogo, we would be better off saving the wages to pay a decent CB pr ideally two, cover at RB and a quality DM.
We have options already at the club who could play in Ozil's position; Ramsey, Wilshere, Nelson, Iwobi, Cazorla (if fit) . Ozil on his day is a great player, but those days happen too rarely.

08 Nov 2017 13:07:09
It’s not just his poor performances that worry me. I’m sure I used to see one of the Ed’s maybe 001 few years ago it was the other players letting him down which made him look bad. Maybe it was ed025. If they catch this be nice to hear their view on ozil. Anyway it’s also the terrible attitude that annoys me. Against city he was just sulking at the end and it’s embarrassing. Personally I’d let him go in January. Same with Alexis.

{Ed001's Note - Arsenal are a mess, there are lots of little cliques and people at loggerheads with each other, like Ramsey and Sanchez who hate each other. For a passing player like him, he needs teamwork and movement to get the best out of him. He needs to leave Arsenal.}

08 Nov 2017 13:43:42
Can't you just see the tension between those two.

08 Nov 2017 13:50:27
I think he will sign for bayern in january.

08 Nov 2017 17:07:27
The irritating fact about Ozil and Sanchez is that we should have sorted this situation out when there was 2 years to go their deals. Sign or be sold. To allow them both to leave on frees, possibly to our PL rivals is absurd in the extreme.
I would like to see us try and salvage something for them in January and bring in a couple of top players to compensate for the loss of these two.

08 Nov 2017 23:29:54
Thanks for your reply Ed001 I do genuinely like hearing your views. It does seem ozil would be of better leaving. Just one of those things where both may be better of parting ways.

{Ed001's Note - he is one of those players, like Fabregas, Pirlo and a number of others, that are very reliant on others to create the framework around them. Give them the right team and they can win you games, give them the wrong team and they are a liability. Ozil is at the wrong team and is a luxury that Arsenal do not need and cannot afford, at this time. Wenger has never understood how to build a team around him and that is why he is better off moving on to work with a manager who will.

Nice to chat with you D16, I think I am one of the few left that does not just blame Ozil for everything! I watched your last game and the commentator was actually complaining about Ozil not tracking back, being lazy etc as he was chasing back and forced the opponent to play the ball back from a dangerous area to the halfway line. They never even mentioned that he just did that and only mention what he doesn't do. It gets on my nerves to be honest as they will do that of certain players, Sturridge being another one. I have seen him race back to cover a fullback caught up field and the commentator gave the credit to a completely different player. It makes you wonder how much people's perceptions are shaped by things like that, as the commentators clearly have personal agendas against some players.}