Arsenal Banter Archive April 09 2018

 

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09 Apr 2018 22:12:07
Can city turn tomorrow nights game around and to some degree save what has been without question a super champagne season for them losing some of its fizz?
My guess is Liverpool will score at least once leaving City needing to score a minimum of 5 and who knows how many more to make the semi finals.

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09 Apr 2018 23:52:41
If there is one coach i can never bet against, it is guardiola. The way he can not only motivate a team but also get it tactically right (most of the times) , is amazing. Best coach i have seen in the last few years. I wouldn't be surprised if city score five and go through. It is not outside the realm of possibilities.

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{Ed0333's Note - who would your prefer Punani Pep or a Wenger in his prime?

10 Apr 2018 01:14:30
Klopp has found the key to unlocking citeh, i can't see anything other than a liverpool win.

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10 Apr 2018 02:44:17
Ed0333,guardiola all day. Wenger at his prime couldn’t even win the champions league. in 2004,i think we had the best team in europe we still got knocked out by chelsea. Wenger’s earlier success has a lot to do with the fact that he was far ahead than his competitor especially when it came to nutrition but tactically he is not really that impressive. Guardiola is another animal completely. He is an obsessive who meticulously analyses opponents. I remember a story once told by one of the Bayern players i don’t remember the name but the player was narrating about a story about how pep was locked in his office for long analyzing the opponent. during the preparation for the match, pep told the players the exact places where spaces will open up for his offensive players and the spaces opened up exactly where he said they would. That is what makes pep special, it is is like events happen in head before they happen on the pitch. That is what makes him a special coach. wenger on the other hand tells his players just to play their game which doesn’t always produce fruits. So pep any day, any night. He was my top favorite to replace wenger but i guess that will never happen.

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{Ed0333's Note - so how comes he got it so monumental wrong against Liverpool last week. If he was such a meticulous analyser why didn’t he have a plan b against us? Giving the ball to Sane at every opportunity doesn’t seem like he did much homework? He maybe culpable of gross arrogance to think Trent Alexander Arnold would buckle under pressure from his marauding winger. I think you pay Wenger a disservice mate his teams in their pomp were majestic to watch both offensively and defensively. Wenger was a genius in his own right for a multitude of reasons. Yes he didn’t win the Champions League I grant you but Pep ‘streets ahead’ of Wenger I’m not so sure.

10 Apr 2018 08:47:15
Liverpool will score at least 1 goal. And I fancy them to score first.

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10 Apr 2018 11:42:12
I think there will be lots of goals for sure Sanogo mate, if Liverpool do score first City might crumble especially considering the week they've had.
Mind you city's bad weeks are most teams dream weeks :-) 1 win from the title and champions league semi final still up for grabs.

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10 Apr 2018 12:19:37
As a neutral I’d like City to grab a couple of early goals then we’d have a real cracker of a game.

Who ever wins I’d love them to win the whole thing!

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10 Apr 2018 12:32:20
I can’t get away with cheering city on. City, Chelsea, united and spurs I could never cheer those clubs on. I want Liverpool to demolish them. I know city have played some lovely stuff this year but out of the two teams when Liverpool turn it up they are by far the most explosive and breath taking to watch. The main difference is city can usually play nice football for 90 mins where as Liverpool can be absolutely devestaing for about 20 mins and spells throughout their game. I actually fancy Liverpool to win the the competition. All three of the big hitters left outside this tie can be beat and beaten well.

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10 Apr 2018 13:41:23
Yeah I’d prefer Liverpool SLB but I’d root for City as the English club If they made it.

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10 Apr 2018 13:42:10
Punani: There is no doubt that Guardiola is an great coach, but a degree of circumspection is needed in praising him. Unlike Wenger, Guardiola has never operated within financial constraints, or with having to let his best players go, and still compete. I'm not sure he is as untouchable as you think, his tactics against Liverpool were woeful, and he had no answer to the United comeback. Great, amongst a number of great coaches over the years, but certainly not infallible - even with unlimited funds.

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10 Apr 2018 19:23:01
Your a better man than me stoner.

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10 Apr 2018 19:35:08
Liverpool fan here. Apart from Liverpool, I root for Bayern.

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10 Apr 2018 20:41:59
Liverpool 1sr chioce City 2nd Barcelona 3rd to win it.

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10 Apr 2018 21:39:03
Barcelona are out lol.

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10 Apr 2018 07:38:56
Tough question that Ed0333 mate. Pep has done it in 3 countries although Bayern in Germany are the equivalent of Celtic in Scotland and were European champions when Pep got them.
Arsene was a revolutionary in his day no question but he too inherited the foundations that George built and without those foundations has struggled since.
Jose has more titles in more countries and more champions league success with different teams while Fergie did it consistently with United.
Pep or Arsene are out on their own in the best to watch category and I'm probably biased because I'm an Arsenal fan but I think the invincibles were the best to watch but like I said being an Arsenal fan I obviously would have enjoyed the invincibles most.

Oh and I think 5 3 to city tonight by the way, Liverpool v city is the hottest ticket in town right now and easily the best two teams to watch.

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10 Apr 2018 19:41:25
Ed033,as much as i agree with you about guardiola not being infallible, you could see what pep was trying to do at liverpool. He was trying to overload the midfield so that he maintains possession and then probably attack Liverpool in the second half when they tire.

The main difference between pep and wenger is that even when pep's team lose, they lose fighting. He instills desire in players that only perhaps jose can. His teams may lose but are never rarely outplayed. Even when they get knocked out you can never accuse them of not trying enough. For me he is the best coach in the world and the number of times he got it wrong tactically can be counted. They are rare occasions.

What about wenger. Remember 8-2? Remember man u knocking us out of the champions league? Remember 6-0 to mourinho? Our first half collapse at anfield in 2014. Wenger made rodgers look like guardiola! .

Wenger has been past it for years and even at his prime he wasn't the best coach in the world. His biggest contribution to the world of football wasn't about tactics, it was to do a lot with dieting and nutrition! That says a lot about him as a coach.

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{Ed0333's Note - I would love to respectfully counter your claims mate but my team have just gone through to the semi final of the champions league and my wife is wearing a low cut top which is showing her ample cleavage and I’m about to give her the best 3 seconds of her life (that includes foreplay by the way)

10 Apr 2018 21:24:36
Ed- Wenger in his prime.

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{Ed0333's Note - I agree mate

11 Apr 2018 11:40:31
Ed we can respectfully agree to disagreee. isn't that what the ameicans like to say before they invade your country lol.

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{Ed0333's Note - yes mate let’s beg to differ.

09 Apr 2018 19:26:49
Winning the Europa will be great but I am pretty sure that will make Arsenes stay for another season and even if we did not win it considering the blokes arrogance he will still probably stay for next season unless the fans not taking their seats for the last few games take it to the next level and don't renew for next season which hopefully make the board act.

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09 Apr 2018 20:03:45
I'm pretty sure Arsene will be our manager next season regardless of the europa league outcome 64 mate.
The club don't have the heart to sack him and Arsene simply can't give it up.
There will be new signings this summer but why they will work out better or achieve more than Mesut Welbeck Debuchy Chambers Sanchez Cech Xhaka Mustafi Elneny Lacasette have I've no idea.
Signing players alone simply hasn't over the past 4 seasons and won't over the next summer eithet change how we do over 38 games, we will simply be spending more huge sums of money on more players who quickly become worth a fraction what we paid for them, save the money for the next manager how ever long it takes.

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09 Apr 2018 23:55:57
There is no way wenger is leaving, seems you haven't reached the final stage of grief which is acceptance mate lol. Most of us have reached the acceptance stage seems you still are at the denial stage. The more you accept that wenger isn't, the better for your health.

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{Ed0333's Note - the final stage of grief is Roy Hodgson mate.

10 Apr 2018 02:45:02
lol ed0333.

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09 Apr 2018 17:04:04
I don't know if we have ever been this divided as a fan base. I have friends who also support arsenal who want us to lose the Europa league so that at least wenger can walk away at the end of the season.

As much as i understand their frustration, i think it is a bit too much to wish for your team to lose so that at least the manager may walk away. Personally, i want us to win the europa league whether it means wenger stays on or not.

What do you guys feels about the situation? Would you want us to lose the europa league if it means wenger walking away?

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09 Apr 2018 17:26:41
No mate I don’t ever want us to lose and have simply accepted Wenger will leave when ever he chooses.

I’m also pretty certain his inability to get a team to defend will in itself ensure we don’t win the Europa Dopa.

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09 Apr 2018 17:29:17
We have to all want Arsenal to win it for every reason imaginable Punani mate.
There is nothing to be achieved by wanting us to lose as we could lose the semi final and Arsene still be our manager next season, so why would anyone want us not to win it makes no sense as it will change nothing.
If it was a case of if we win it Arsene definitely stays next season and if we don't win it Arsene definitely goes in May then we'd all have something to seriously think about, but that isn't the case so we have to all got to want us to win it.


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09 Apr 2018 18:10:58
Aa for fans being devided in general Punani, it's still Arsene that devides us but no one I've spoken to lately Arsene in or out now thinks he can ever make us compete for top prizes again, but some still think he could get us 4th place again while others think that is now beyond him too.
The Arsene divide is as wide as ever it's just the preamiters of the argument have shifted downward for the Arsene in camp.

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09 Apr 2018 18:42:15
Im an arsenal fan, regardless of what he might think wenger is not arsenal. I really don't care about the league run in, results wise, we finished strong last season and it was all smoke and mirrors, if they finish 6th, that for me is the sack anyway regardless. I do want us to win the Europa League though. For me it is our innept league inconsistency that is the thing that should set the alarm bells ringing to all fans and the inability to sort it out that is down to the "coaching" by wenger. Like gunner said, if it was black and white and losing meant wenger gone, i would take the hit but it isn't so arsenal come first. We/ I just have to hope the board are savvy in deciding the best thing for arsenal fc.

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09 Apr 2018 19:12:11
Arsenal > Arsene.

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09 Apr 2018 19:38:48
We haven't lost since Brighton away but it's easy to overlook of our 6 game winning streak 5 games have been at home.
Be interesting to see how we do against Newcastle Sunday although I'm sure Arsene has already drafted his post match interview explaintion with the long trip to Russia featuring highly should our away day woes continue.

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09 Apr 2018 20:15:17
Gunner, for me and i think for a lot more people now, i see his lips move but all i hear is blah blah blah blah.

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09 Apr 2018 20:41:08
Steve, Arsene The club and the team all lack any credibility.
Arsene has been trotting out the same old excuses for years
The club are incapable of doing what's best for the club the team the fans
The players for a variety of reasons just just don't have in them to deliver over a prolonged.

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10 Apr 2018 00:03:28
Gunner mate almost all my friends are wenger out. I have never seen a coach who is still in his job when majority of the fans want him out. It is baffling. No matter what happens he won't walk away so best thing is for us to win the europa league but the sad thing is if wenger continues, i see fan unrest again next season because we will be performing poorly if wenger is in charge unless he announces he is leaving at the end of next season.

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10 Apr 2018 13:38:22
I can't believe any fan actually wants us to lose just in the hope that it means Wenger goes. I call them fans, but what i actually mean is total imbeciles. As others have said, there is certainly no guarantee that he will go whatever the outcome. In fact i would say there is as much chance of him walking at the end of the season if we win it as if we don't. At the end of the day, i do want change, and i want him to leave. However, to be that bitter and want him (and therefore the team you supposedly support) to fail at the job he loves and a team he has devoted a large part of his life to, just to justify your own want, would make you a horrible, pathetic individual. Yes, I want him to see sense and walk away at the end of the season, but i damn sure want to see him holding the Europa Cup up high and proud before he goes. If that increases the chance of him still being here next season, then so be it. Yes it will be disappointing but hey, being Europa cup holders would help to ease the disappointment.

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10 Apr 2018 16:38:55
The thing is would Spurs accept 2 consevutive seasons of non top 4 from Poch and let him carry on regardless?
Liverpool Klopp? And we all know the answer about City Chelsea Utd with Pep Jose Conte.
At Arsenal for Arsene the same rules don't apply as for other managers at other top clubs and surprise surprise we get a different level of performance and results to other top clubs.
Top clubs pay very top wages simply because they expect and even demand top level performance from players and managers with very little room for excuses for or from either, at Arsenal it's not like that we have both players and managers who are allowed to not deliver at top level consistently.

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09 Apr 2018 15:15:58
Just saw on arsenal.com that our seasons top goal scorer is Ramsey with 9 goals. That's not right is it. If so that really is shocking although I'm sure abameyang would've had more than that throughout the season.

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09 Apr 2018 15:37:26
Are you sure you read that right 16 mate? I think if you take another look at the clubs official website you will find Aaron has actually scored 29 goals this season :-)

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09 Apr 2018 23:07:12
I don't think iwobi is on that list.

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10 Apr 2018 01:24:54
Must just be a technical error.

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Legends of the game part 4: Johan Cruyff

09 Apr 2018 15:09:44
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Legends of the game part 4: Johan Cruyff

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09 Apr 2018 10:25:27
Arsenal football club is standing by its own figures of yesterday's official attendance being 174,000 :-)

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09 Apr 2018 12:15:14
Not surprised. They've been telling us bollox for years.

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09 Apr 2018 12:51:00
True Mark mate but I'm not sure the premier league and uafa are going to buy into our largest suggestion that for this season as a trial only home points are counted :-)
Whether the league and uafa accept our proposal or not the club is using this system to calculate our official league position currently making us top 3, it works pretty much like the emirates trophy where we didn't get the most points but still came out as champions :-)

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Review Of The Day 9th April 2018

09 Apr 2018 07:10:43
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 9th April 2018

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Johan Cruyff - The Total Footballer

09 Apr 2018 00:21:54
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Johan Cruyff - The Total Footballer

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