Arsenal Banter Archive August 09 2015

 

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09 Aug 2015 22:22:11
Reason to be cheerful 72, 423
We are only 1pt off Chelsea, if we had drawn and Chelsea won it would have been 2pts so the weekend could actually have been worse :-)

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09 Aug 2015 23:34:32
Resons not to be cheerful. The clouds over us that were drifting away are blowing back. Wenger get your hand in your pocket and freshen it up and quick.

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09 Aug 2015 21:56:27
I could, but I won't. :)

For what it's worth, I really wouldn't worry just yet (not that I'm saying u are), it's the first game in a long season.

Many times United had a bad first game in a title winning season (although I don't think u will win it) the first game is always tricky coming off pre season, west ham have had there season going for a few weeks so will be physically ready to fight, u looked (like we did yesterday) still a bit off pace with players at varying stages of fitness.

Football is back guys, be happy!

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09 Aug 2015 23:15:57
Hard to disagree with that Chris.

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09 Aug 2015 20:07:11
Arsenal are actually rock bottom of the premier league table, that's not something you hear said very often is it.
So when did it actually last happen? Has it ever in either premier league or old first division history? I'm over 30 and I can't remember it before, although I do strongly remember Peter marinello :-)

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09 Aug 2015 20:42:28
Lets just hope palace aren't top next week.

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09 Aug 2015 19:45:29
Ok I'm going to go an cool off. So annoyed. I fail to believe we won't sign a world class striker. I'm bored of that donkey upfront.

Have a decent week I'm off to chill and let's hope we sign that worldie

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09 Aug 2015 19:21:04
Terrible day yesterday, and the next two matches we need 6 from.

My view is, they had 2 non chances and got them both, both goals we goalkeeper errors end of story.

Apart from that we need a out and out striker as someone else stated, we didn't trouble much apart from pass left to right and lacked speed on attacks

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09 Aug 2015 19:20:03
Weren't over impressed with Cech but that's another story.

Same old, same old.

We have to get a plan b or we will be in trouble.

When teams defend against us, with 2 rows of 4, we struggle to break through.

Today, no width and too much tippy tappy.

Not impressed but a long way to go.

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09 Aug 2015 21:14:12
Bad day all round but don't be too hard on the new keeper mate, lots of poor performances and loads of mistakes from loads of players but the keepers are always the most costly ones.
We and Cech are far better than today suggests it really was just a bad day at the office mate.

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09 Aug 2015 23:17:48
Fair point G62.

As the song goes, "the only way is up".

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10 Aug 2015 07:37:14
we take too long around the box which allows the opposition to get back behind the ball.

I think the reason (and i don't like saying it because I like him) is Giroud. Need a striker who can get in behind, have a turn off pace, and give a good effort consistently. This will open up space and generate more movement around the box.

This should be our Plan A @dags
Giroud, Plan B

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09 Aug 2015 18:54:06
Reason to be cheerful 5378.
2013 we didn't come back and beat Vila on opening day but were top of the league at the turn of the year.
2014 we did come back and beat CPalace in opening day and our tittle hopes were over by November 1st and were well adrift of 4th place at the turn of the year.
:-)

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09 Aug 2015 19:12:34
THe challange seems to be keeping Cazorla in the middle with Coq, everything flows from there and having to fit Ramsey, Ozil, Ox and theo into the lineup is hard, but every time. Cazorla seemed on the outside a lot today as too many cooks in there.

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09 Aug 2015 21:04:28
I think it's a,mistake to try and find a system to fit the personnel aposed to the other way round.
Rambo Le Coq Caz
Sanchez Ozil
Giroud
Worked well last season but Ox Theo and Jack were injured so it was easy for Arsene, now it's the tough bit of making choices, maybe
Le Coq Caz
Ox Ozil Sanchez
Theo
Is what I'd go with against place
But Aaron is class and Theo is untested so its not easy.

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09 Aug 2015 21:14:37
Its simple for me as an outsider, with everyone fit Ozil should miss out, you have lots of better options as he floats in and out of games. Sanchez left, Ox right, Giroud/Walcott up top. Le Coq, Rambo and Cazorla in midfield. that's the lineup I would fear most as an opponent. Still think you need a top class striker and competition at DM to be sure of a fight for the title but you'll be there or there abouts regardless of yesterday. Down to Wenger now.

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09 Aug 2015 23:20:44
On his day Ozil is a game changer,but, well you know the rest.

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09 Aug 2015 23:53:55
Honey ozil will always be a problem until he gets players in front of him who want to score. He needs protection behind and players who move in front, give him anything else to do and he's not on it. But in his defence he is a no 10 and he's playing with 6 other no 10s not enough variety. It is wengers problem and he's either stubborn or reading the situation wrong. We have pace and we have movement we don't have the power, height and desire to get into the box and mix it. I genuinely think we will be fighting you for third and fourth again unless we get two or three genuine all round beasts to make us nasty and varied.

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09 Aug 2015 18:53:47
Coutinho anyone? This is the year people believe me that he's a better number 10 than ozil. Bargain he was

Also cabaye would walk in any prem team. So under rated. He has an engine. Bite and a an for goal.

Sorry giroud fan boys but he needs to gom benzema in then we get a DM next and replace merts also.

One day we get there. Let's go again next seek and get a win

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09 Aug 2015 19:07:16
I'm a Giroud fan-boy and agree. We need a striker who can pull us out of trouble and not rely on others.

Not sure Coutinho is better than Ozil but he's more consistent for sure

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09 Aug 2015 21:17:35
Ozil is annoying to watch

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09 Aug 2015 23:21:17
Coutinho is class.

Simple as.

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09 Aug 2015 18:13:50
We are all extremely disappointed by today I was a wake at 6am this morning because I was so excited by today and the season ahead.
It was an awful day at the office which I personally put down to over confidence brought on by believing our own publicity and the hype surrounding us being considered serious contenders for the first time in nearly a decade.
We are the same side who finished last season so convincingly and ripped Villa to bits in the final apart from the fact we've added a world class keeper to our ranks.
Yes like the vast majority of our team today Cech looked poor but the reality is he's a fantastic keeper and we are an excellent team, at 1.29pm we were title contenders and that hasn't changed because of one set back performance.
We always had to go to Chelsea and get a point now we need to get 3 to wipe out today within a few weeks, 1 down 37 to go chins up people's

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09 Aug 2015 18:13:43
I like giroud he s good at what he does . We lack pace behind oppositions back 4 . Evidently wenger does nt want to play Walcot up front . West ham looked sharper than us today but they have played a couple of competitive games . We were poor . I think we need benzema!!!

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09 Aug 2015 18:44:31
I'm a big Olly fan 73 but I think today reminded me of just how poor he can be in front of goal not just occasionally but sadly for him far to often, I love his work rate and team contribution but unfortunately he is going to waste crucial chances in crucial games I'm sorry to say.
Obviously you can't base anything or judge anyone on today's alone but for Olly today probably was enough to remind and persuade his most loyal of fans that relying on Olly as our main means of scoring is going to end in failure for all :-(

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{Ed025's Note - i have to agree G62..

09 Aug 2015 19:31:03
Its a shame Ed but sadly effort doesn't make up for a natural eye for goal that Olly lacks, you can get your MF chipping in with goals all you want but your number 9 player needs to be able to win a tight game sometimes with just one chance and again sadly that ain't Olly :-(

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09 Aug 2015 18:12:53
Do you guys think we could play a 442 diamond like west ham did today? Say Walcott/Sanchez and giroud up top with Ozil right behind them, then Le coq as the dmf. Then I think ox/Ramsey/santi as the left and right mids. I don't think this is optimal for the possession game but it's something that we could practice in training to take teams off guard... We could even do In game tactic change to this formation and go a little more direct to the top three players


I dunno we just need a plan change to become more penetrative

Thoughts would be welcomed guys

Thanks

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09 Aug 2015 21:20:52
Carzola Ramsey coquelin



Chamberlain. Sanchez


Benzema/reus

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09 Aug 2015 18:11:34
lathargic performance. horrible marking again that caused the 1st goal. no pressure on Zarate's shot + Cech's catastrophic mistake for the 2nd.

but oh yeah sorry! I forgot it's only our first game. "We shouldn't expect too much".... lol

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09 Aug 2015 21:18:34
Carzola should of closed down zarate

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09 Aug 2015 17:52:10
We looked flat we are just missing something from our team a world class striker give madrid the 45m for benzema and we should be sorted

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09 Aug 2015 17:02:08
I really don't get Wenger. He's constantly babbling about the cohesion of the team. The fact of the matter is there was no cohesion today! We went back to our old style of all out attack and slow passing on the edge of their box with no width or end product, instead of inviting early pressure and defending with intensity on the edge of our box and hitting them on the brake with equal intensity and utilizing the pace of the wingers we have at our disposal. A tactic which proved extremely effective during the second half of last season.


I genuinely believe that we won't win the title as long as Wenger is at the helm. His tactics are ineffective and one dimensional, with no plan b, and he is too stubborn to change anything. Year after year he fails to see where he and the side falls short, and he is no where near ruthless enough when it comes to making the key signings we need to be legitimate title contenders, and with regards to his team selection.

I'm not going to immediately start spouting 'Wenger out' because there is still time for him to prove me wrong, but I have absolutely no faith in the man anymore.

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09 Aug 2015 16:48:49
Ok first and foremost, yeah that was a pretty poor performance all round bar the obvious few, but let's not get too disheartened.

Still think we are someway off full fitness and west ham have had lots of champs league to prepare them for the start. Also that payet looked extremely good.

I also don't think we were too bad defensively, for the most part. Made 2 mistakes, conceded 2 goals. Yeah I know we can't be doing that if we are to challenge for the title, but with a new player in cech and debuchy coming back into the side after a long time out, we were bound to have some problems. I am pretty disappointed in cech but he's still world class I'm sure he will improve.

Offensively giroud didn't offer enough in the air or on the floor and for me just doesn't quite cut it, like most people think. If we aren't going to buy a striker is rather just give Walcott a few games on the trot in the team but doubt that will happen.

I think surely in the long run, especially when Sanchez is back to full fitness, wenger has to realise one of Ramsey, caz or Ozil is going to have to make way unfortunately.

Overall, I'm obviously extremely gutted, But don't think there are too many glaring frailties defensively, and there are options to improve offensively. Still think we have an unbelievable squad. COYG!

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09 Aug 2015 18:01:41
U mean Europa league

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09 Aug 2015 18:27:52
Good post Henry I agree with an awful lot of that mate, I actually think Mertesacker looked quite good today (threres a sentence I don't use often:-) but like he did in the cup final he looked very decent today.

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09 Aug 2015 18:37:57
yeah whoops europa my bad

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09 Aug 2015 16:28:24
Go all out and pip utd to signing pedro!

We need width to many CAM's on the pitch at one time, all creative but with knowone to pass to.

Pedro would be a great addition

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09 Aug 2015 16:16:11
I posted last week that we were still 2/3 players from being the real deal and I think today proved that. We are a proper leader at the back to play with Koscielny, a top class defensive midfielder and a striker who can win games on his own away from being there. We have (so far) missed the chance, yet again, to buy the correct players and put ourselves ahead of everyone else. Look at Chelsea last year, Courtois back from loan, Fabregas and Costa and they won the league at a canter. Why didn't we just go and buy 3 top quality players to do the same? Why?! I tried to remain optimistic that this team as it stands could challenge but deep down I don't honestly believe that it is realistic. Today was a massive reality check for us and the team. At least we're only a point behind Chelsea, who I still believe are the best team in the league right now.

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09 Aug 2015 16:45:59
It's the predictable tactics that contribute to this. 1 up front when 2-0 down. Genius.

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09 Aug 2015 17:51:39
Ozil, Rambo and Santi CANNOT play together in midfield. It does not work.

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09 Aug 2015 18:31:38
Shussh 95 its a secret, because of how well they did together last season during the whole of the second half of the season and in the cup final they and several million other people actually think they can play together :-) silly as it sounds.

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09 Aug 2015 18:37:37
Unfortunately G95 we are 2-3 players away every season, but our direct completion ad 2-3 players every season so we never seem to catch up
I've been saying it for ages, Ozil just isn't cut out for the EPL, he's a great player but you need 10 outfield players that can work for the team, track back stick there foot in when needed and I'm sorry Ozil is never going to be that player, were constantly playing with 9.5 outfield players in the hope he's in the mood and produces something

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09 Aug 2015 18:49:58
G95. Its been obvious for 2 years but Wenger doesn't see it. I'd rather play gnabry and ox on the wings and drop one of them.not an ozil fan my self as people know tho

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09 Aug 2015 16:12:02
What a great start that was who saying we don't need a striker then couldn't even score past west ham what a joke

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09 Aug 2015 16:02:05
Credit to Billic, he had his tactics nailed. Not difficult against Arsene 'who needs a plan B' Wenger. And massive credit to Winston Reid, lad was immense today, will be surprised to see him at west ham this time next season.

We were woeful today. Ox and Theo gave it a go but otherwise we were flat, slow and nowhere near clinical enough. Once again Giroux buckled under the pressure of proving that he can lead the line and help us mount a decent title challenge. Ramsey was awful and way too greedy at times, Santi was average, and le coq did no more than what was expected of him. Unfortunately the players we needed to show up, excluding the ox, didn't turn up today.

Zonal marking needs to go, we looked like schoolboys defending that free kick.

If this isn't a wake up call to sign benzema I don't know what is.

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09 Aug 2015 15:59:34
At least you won the treble in pre season 👍

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09 Aug 2015 18:50:19
atleast it gives United fans a reason to go onto a another teams page to troll until United drop points. it happens, it'll happen to every team. Even yours. Let's not have a wet dream. there's 37 more games to go. everyone stay calm

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09 Aug 2015 15:59:03
I don't think Ozil deserves the no10 role for me carzola should play there he's more clinical and isn't afraid to have a shot

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09 Aug 2015 15:42:56
What was I saying all summer??!
As soon as we take coquelin off, BANG WE CONCEDE THE SECOD GOAL.
We have no cover for DM position.
We have no cover for striker position.
Theo wanted to play there, he was drifting and drifting, but he was TOO WEAK!!
We should've done our business, bought a DM and a striker.
It would've done a world of good, if we had Benzema on the bench to bring on when we were 2-0 down!
Sanchez looked so tired, man give this guy a rest!!.
He can't win us the league by himself.
Even hazard needed costa to score 20 goals along with Willian Oscar remy and all other players!.
We won't win the league with this squad, simple!
Things can change before September 1. But for now NO!

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09 Aug 2015 15:50:15
They scored the second whilst le coq was still on the pitch mate. Granted when he came off we were worse

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09 Aug 2015 15:50:54
Coquelin was on when we conceded the second one
His awkward sliding tackle was one of the reasons Zarate ended up having the ball

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09 Aug 2015 15:56:12
He was. On his backside when they scored the second

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09 Aug 2015 16:45:19
When the 2nd went in Le Coq is on his feet 100% in position between Mertesacker and Kos after recovering from a less than great attempted tackle, it was our best player in the game Ox who lost the ball for the second goal, Ox did least wrong today of all our players and Le Coq wasn't that far behind him.
Petr Cech is a top class keeper who had a very bad day and the Ox is an already fantastic player who will get better and better still who had a good day but the truth is both cost us a goal apiece today, it happens

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09 Aug 2015 17:57:56
To be fair, both their goals were HUGE keeper errors.

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09 Aug 2015 15:35:32
Are we sure Szczesny didn't put on a scrum cap and send Cech off to Roma? I know we played poorly but we handed them the win on a golden platter.

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09 Aug 2015 15:33:34
We are going to win the league easy I have heard from your fans well you lot are deluded.you have been chasing shadows against poor west spam at home and there will be more stuffings coming your way this season don't worry. Cech looked like 50 year old keeper today lol

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09 Aug 2015 15:43:48
Trolling is for kids. I'd happily place a wager with you that we win more than we are 'stuffed' . Now put your big boy pants on and put your money where your mouth is, otherwise run along with the rest of the prepubescent 'deluded' little girly mates. the season is 38 games not 1 game.

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09 Aug 2015 15:47:27
Raver, what a load of tripe you spout, anything you say sounds rediculous. West ham played well and desreved to win. Your the one who wants to open your eyes and your mind and look at your own poor team whom i guarantee will struggle this year and probably a few years to come.

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09 Aug 2015 15:52:52
Il happily put anything you want on the fact we will finish at least 10 points clear of spuds. Yeah we lost it happens Chelsea were lucky to not loose yesterday it happens

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09 Aug 2015 16:21:47
Raver, what are you like 12?

You obviously don't pay much attention, if you think you can talk to us about chasing shadows... You lot have been chasing our shadow for years!

I'd put my car and my £20k guitar collection on us not taking any 'stuffings' at all this season. The last time we flopped the season opener we broke our transfer record and spent more days at the top than any other side, and our side is stronger now than it was then. Just another wake up call for Wenger to make the signings we need.

All you have to look forward to is more mediocre signings and years of spursday night football... Until you get knocked out by another mid table Italian side.

Run along to mummy now. The adults are talking.

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09 Aug 2015 17:10:14
Its great getting you gooners biting today my name is mr Kippling I'm having an exceedingly good day lol

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09 Aug 2015 17:22:02
Fill ya boots rav today is a great day to be a spud, you don't get many so stay up late and enjoy every minute of your parade and civic reception.

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09 Aug 2015 17:39:27
Typical spud the only good days you get are at other people's expense. Sad really.

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09 Aug 2015 18:02:04
not sure you got to many bites. just put in your place. Is it a good day when everyone sees your minerals shrinking?

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09 Aug 2015 15:31:55
Not the best way to start our season. "Arsenal can't perform when the pressure is on". I don't remember who said it but it's painfully true. The biggest issue is not to sign new players. It's to overcome this mental obstacle. The pressure seems to affect the harmony and as a result we lose the flow of our game, get frustrated and ultimately make mistakes. It can happen to anybody but it seems to happen to us more often than anyone else.

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09 Aug 2015 15:53:55
If we don't get a goal early we start to make hard work of things

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09 Aug 2015 19:05:09
That would be me ✋

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09 Aug 2015 15:31:40
The last time we lost the opening game of the season (versus Villa) we paid a club record transfer for a player (Ozil).

Lets hope the rumours about Benzema are true!

But there was no urgency or vibrancy in our play today. Aside from the Ox and Monreal, the team was poor. A few observations:
> how is it that we switch the Ox to right back, but all the attacking play is down the left with Monreal?
> Ramsey (my favourite player) starts on the right, but typically plays in-field and therefore offers no width. There's a lack of discipline there to not provide the width when the opposition are playing 3 central midfielders
> we played poorly, but the Hammers got their tactics right.

lets see how we react in the next game and get a response. It'll be tough though - Palace away won't be easy.....

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09 Aug 2015 15:45:42
I have never been a Ramsay fan, Ox was by far our best player. Poor all around for me, but fair play to WestHam. That was organisation at it's finest. And fair play too the young lad they played in Midfield. looks like talent coming back through at the Hammers.

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09 Aug 2015 15:30:38
First of all West Ham deserved that win
That should say it all
I can't remember a game with so many misplaced passes as today from us
We never looked like scoring a goal while every single West Ham attack was looking far too dangerous
Worst players on the pitch by far for me wher Cazorla, Özil and Ramsey (not in that order since I really don't know who was worse)
How can it be that Alexis has to come on? We need a decent left winger to provide cover for him Cazorla or Özil just don't work there
Only bright spots where The Ox and Monreal for me
Even Cech looked foolish
Well it's the start of the season maybe this will do us a Villa and we will win the next few games in a row

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09 Aug 2015 15:28:57
groundhog day... Only Alexis show some real danger in a completly harmless team.
So gutted!

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09 Aug 2015 15:27:11
We always struggle when teams clog up the middle. Pick either santi or Ramsey for the middle and put a real winger out wide. Not these central players that have the instinct to come inside


Also chec should be cut a lot of slack. It's a new system and new back line there will be a little adjustment period

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09 Aug 2015 15:26:44
WENGER OUT!

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09 Aug 2015 15:47:56
Yeah let's bring David Moyes in. He does fantastic with average sides like Man United so imagine what he could do with a top side like Arsenal

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09 Aug 2015 15:25:31
Great game from Cech.

You really do look like the real deal this season.

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09 Aug 2015 16:16:23
Really he was not good today

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09 Aug 2015 15:24:36
Freaking aye memories of Aston villa two years ago

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09 Aug 2015 15:21:13
Pretty much our best team out at homecand west ham yes west ham have kept them at arms length all day. Not a championship performance, not a championship winning team. No signings no improvement.

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09 Aug 2015 15:28:34
a bit harsh. yes the gk was a t fault, but the strikers did nothing. it was all alexis sanchez or ox to do something.

watching diego costa yesterday the fight in his game alone was causing swansea problems. giroud is not clinical and gets pushed very easily..he does not seems to be able to keep possesion when it counts.

if wenger is going to get another striker, this was his chance to show he does not need one..but our forwards did nothing. theo taking shots, off target that too, and giroud unable to dominate in the air or on the ground.

yes its one game but the idea was to start strong and yet again they failed.

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09 Aug 2015 15:30:05
It hard to argue Steve. Only the ox looked any. Trying to pass it through a box with 11 West Ham shirts. We could be playing till next Saturday and never score

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09 Aug 2015 15:21:07
Credit to West Ham payet was quality

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09 Aug 2015 15:18:33
As I said pre season is for fitness that's it,all the hype we won this we won that, it comes down to today and we haven't been good enough, we need a winger and a striker desperately and if he can't see it then that's us done again season over in August

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09 Aug 2015 15:18:15
So you have 2 players Ozil and Giroud who pretty much offer zero contribution to the game and you take off Debuchy and Le Coq?
How about taking off the 2 players that aren't contributing and get 11 players on the pitch rather than make it more comfortable for West Ham by putting our own defence under more pressure by losing 2 contributing players

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09 Aug 2015 15:35:39
You know, I can understand Coquelin coming off for an attacker.
I could also understand Debucby coming off for an attacker IF we went 3 at the back.
Why take him off and put our best player on the day, on AoC at RB?!
Baffles me.

Giroud should of been off, regardless of his form, after the injury.
Ozil was terrible today and this is coming from someone who's supported him at almost every turn.


If any positives can be taken today, it's that Le Coq is still playing well, that surely that'll spark Wenger into realising we do need a bit of strengthening.

Cech today was the most disappointing by far though.
He was at fault for both goals.
You can argue that Kos and Naxto should of marked him better, but Cech shouldn't of been out that far.

Performance has to be much better next week.

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09 Aug 2015 14:50:40
Think it's been a case of going out being over confident.

How can Wenger say we don't need a striker? That donkey giroud couldn't finish a sausage roll!

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09 Aug 2015 14:49:22
Time to find out just what we've got in the mentality locker now, tough but not impossible by any means

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09 Aug 2015 14:25:34
That was a pretty poor half of football there from us.

Oxlade-Chamberlain looked really up for it, played very well.

Özil and Cazorla haven't been able to get much time on the ball and Ramsey seems poor.


Everyone else seemed almost complacent, very lacklustre.

West Ham have really got about us and stopped us playing.
Only in the last few minutes of that half did we seem to up our tempo.
Starting poorly will cost us a title challenge.
Yes, Chelsea drew yesterday, but that's the sort of thing we need to capitalise on, even on day one.

What was Cech doing for that free kick?!
Bring back Ospina I say'

I still think we can win it, but the lads need to come out this half and work harder.

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{Ed001's Note - Coquelin has been doing some good work.}

09 Aug 2015 14:32:41
Ozil has been really poor chamberlain needs to attack Tomkins on the right bring on Walcott and Sanchez

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09 Aug 2015 14:43:17
Almost all look off the pace with passes being well over/under hit missed timed tackles etc, typical first game stuff that will get better and better, hopefully starring today.
Just shows how deceptive the community shield on a very big Wembley pitch with lots of time when both sides are only at 85% can be, this is the premier league against a very pumped up west Ham with a new manager to impress.
keep calm and don't panic captin mannering sir

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09 Aug 2015 15:13:42
He's done what he does best Ed001, quietly going about his business!

I get what you're saying G62, and don't get me wrong here, I'm not suggesting for a minute that this game means we're going to have an awful season, not in the slightest.

But these are the games we need to win, if we really are to challenge for the title.
Yes, as you say, new manager syndrome will be affecting those West Ham lads, but the fact we've had to bring on Alexis AND keep on a possibly dazed Giroud, shows how much the boss knows we should be getting something here.

The West Ham lads heave been well drilled and countered well.
But we've put our best player today, in Oxlade-Chamberlain, at right back, so we can bring on Alexis!

Today has been a bit of a comedy of errors.
Regardless of it being the first game or the last game, it's really not a good enough performance.

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09 Aug 2015 14:22:19
Pre season over, not the best start. Cech that's not what we bought you for, you've been watching shez.

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09 Aug 2015 13:08:05
Happy to see giroud start against west ham. We need that physical presence against them. Interested to see debuchy start and bellerin hasn't even made the bench. No news on an injury though, anyone got any info on this decision?

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09 Aug 2015 13:24:10
Come on Olly silence those critics mate, a nice hatrick today would be a nice place to start.

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09 Aug 2015 14:21:19
45 mins in and he's been woeful

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09 Aug 2015 14:46:49
At least he's highlighted the fact we need a world class striker, so he's not been a completely empty wasted out for for Giroud

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09 Aug 2015 11:27:02
Does anyone know of a decent stream for todays game

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09 Aug 2015 12:13:53
USA goals.com

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09 Aug 2015 10:59:50
I don't know whether to be excited or not when Wenger was asked about Henry's comments about benzema, not once did he mention that we are not interested, he was saying that "one player can't automatically make us win the title" what do you take from that lol? Is that a "yes we are buying him" or is that "no we are not interested in him" surely if you weren't interested you would just say "well those comments may be true but we are not interested in him" he's got an amazing poker face.

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09 Aug 2015 12:32:59
Its the one rumour that won't go away until either he signs or the windows closed, the telegraph said it was definately happening on Friday for sure and another paper said last Wednesday its 100% happening today.
I'm 50/50 on whether he will leave Real at all this summer but if he does I'm sure Arsene will be at the front of the que with a few others fighting it out.
It would be brilliant if it happened but not the end of the world if he joins a rival might well yet happen, I know some people don't want to accept that as a possibility but until he actually signs for us anything could happen.

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09 Aug 2015 07:37:25
I've got this funny feeling Wenger has no intention of signing benzema or any striker. I think carvalho was the only big target. I'm just going by various comments by him. He does always keep his cards close to his chest, but I think some of his comments are more cut and dry than usual.

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09 Aug 2015 09:04:30
its a results business. he will not string anyone along for the sake of buying season tickets.

the interest in players is genuine, however it takes 3 to tango. the two clubs and the player. the personal terms, the transfer fee, the players wish to leave or stay, the project which is sold to him.

look we may not end up with benzema, but 4 years ago we were selling our best players and now we can keep our squad together in the summer.

i don't buy into the hype that if we land him we will win the title, becasue money never guarantees titles. he could adapt to the team brilliantly and be a massive hit or he could do a di maria and want psg in a year...it all depends on timing.

lets see what happens. but i hope we make a signing if not a striker a CDM to strengthen.

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{Ed025's Note - good post that lakes..

09 Aug 2015 09:19:01
If he comes he comes if he don't so what it certainly won't dampened my enthusiasm for the season ahead.
We are looking very very good without him and our seasson ahead is a very very long way from being Benzema dependant.

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09 Aug 2015 00:04:31
We are currently 9th in table.

Another poor start to the season for us, as usual.

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09 Aug 2015 11:34:07
I've just burnt my season ticket Dags, i had high hopes for this season aswell

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09 Aug 2015 14:23:27
Lol Perfect

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