Arsenal Banter Archive August 09 2016

09 Aug 2016 22:18:06
With everyone strengthening I think we will struggle to finish in top 6.clearly yhe money we have in reserve is not to strengthen the squad.
Everyone says the club is run well, I think the clubs run like all big companies the only people they care about is the board and top management. the fans are not even taken into account. wenger and kronke both overpaid paracites really am disappointed with the club, constantly patronising loyal fans with bs about looking for top talent and how hard to recruit them but all the other clubs can finalise there deals in no time . sad to say it but think it will be the worst season for us in a long time. why can wenger not address the problem areas we have had for years . even my 7 year old knows we are poor in centre defence and not clinical enough up front . ABSOLUTE joke.

09 Aug 2016 22:50:58
The club is being run as a short term financial project, people talk about our youth policy well what about our fan youth policy?
Yes those with family connections will still possibly become gooners but very few kids run around playgrounds playing 11 aside accountancy, not in this country or anywhere around the world to my knowledge.
Players with decent options are already giving us the cold shoulder and slowly but surely less and less kids will choose Arsenal as their team to follow.
United Chelsea City may have lots of dosh but they also have lots of ambition too and Liverpool may not be best equipped to win the premier league but the will and desire to do so has never been in question, Leicester? Well they have the heart to win hearts and minds while Arsenal? Well we have a big shiny stadium that far to often has less atmosphere than Jupiter and £200 million on the bank statement to offer I guess.

09 Aug 2016 23:34:47
Nice positive post ty. Can't argue with that.

09 Aug 2016 23:36:18
Evening!
Great start to the window and slow since.
If we got Mustafi to add to Holding for the defence -> that's a good start
Midfield -> Granit who looks very useful
Up front - > Mahrez would be welcome as would a more experienced Iwobi. If we can keep Gnarby fit that's another option to keep the wings covered. Plus I think Rambo will play wide right.
Striker - > hopefully Theo stays fit and we add one. He would not be first choice but Bony has been mentioned. Thought he did well at City when I saw him and would be a good alternative with EPL experience to Giroud.

For all my positivity - we need to get a CD and CF signed pretty soon!

09 Aug 2016 23:58:36
I think we need arse kicking and have some sort of bad season to wake up, not that I wish for it to happen.
We have a talented team but its not the finished article just yet. And as everyone is suggesting we are only couple of players far off being up there with man c, man u, and chelsea.

10 Aug 2016 10:50:16
Moe its always a tough one for me, I don't think wenger is taking us back to the glory days ever again but I don't want us to have a "bad " season to achieve or manufacture sone sort of a change.

09 Aug 2016 19:51:20
Was wondering as bony is available to leave would it be with a go at trying to sign him.

09 Aug 2016 22:11:33
Good player but just another Giroud mate, even if he's a better Giroud at that.

09 Aug 2016 22:46:54
But at least it will be a good signing if giroud ain't performing.

10 Aug 2016 00:48:25
Wasn't bony the top scoring player in the Prem for the two *calendar* years he played at Swansea? Man can score goals, no doubt.

09 Aug 2016 19:09:16
Swansea have accepted Evertons 12 million for Williams so that's the end of that debate for now, although I do feel it might come up again as the season progresses funny enough:-)

09 Aug 2016 21:17:56
Another missed opportunity Imo. Yes I know he is 31 but he has been consistently solid premier league defender for a number of years now and is good leader at the back. I guess he did not fit the transfer rule of he must have a sell on value, which is just silly. I think Everton have got good buy there considering the likes of a unproven Stones going for near 50million.

09 Aug 2016 22:15:05
Williams would have improved is no doubt - even if I do have Welsh bias. But he was far from the top of the pile so i guess ill just say we'll see if Wenger has something better up his sleeve. Only time will tell, it seems less than likely but as an Arsenal fan we have to have some ridiculous optimism about us.

09 Aug 2016 22:16:49
If we struggle and Williams does very well at Everton I think we could be talking about him all season.

09 Aug 2016 17:45:29
I am not in the buy Williams camp at all. Don't care how much he costs. If we assume Wenger prefers bfg and Gabriel when they are both fit again where does that put Ashley Williams - sitting on the bench and maybe he doesn't want to move somewhere and sit on the bench, hence Everton. So maybe he doesn't want to move to us for that very reason - we can't offer him two years of first team football. It is not a case of right buy him and if you don't you are an idiot or incompetent - He might not want to come! My solution is cough up buy Manolas / Mustafi if they are deemed to be better than BFG and Gabriel - happy for them Holding and Chambers battling for 3rd and 4th CB`s . Also think Mangala can't be as bad as last season so a cut price bid could be right up Wengers street. Enough of Williams and Evans . COYG ( Remember Manolas Mustafi and Mangala may not want to come also )

09 Aug 2016 18:38:55
I'm not so sure Ashley Williams would be doing to much sitting on the bench at Arsenal mate :-)
Like when Le Coq became a proper DM and after Cech played a few games Arsene would soon be saying " i didn't realise how good Kos was until I signed a CB he didn't need to constantly cover for '
Williams is a very good CB not world class but very good all the same and is head and shoulders above all bar Kos currently at Arsenal.

09 Aug 2016 19:40:40
That's a bag of M&M's get it ;)

09 Aug 2016 15:18:29
Guess who has landed a free ticket to the Liverpool game 😀.

{Ed001's Note - was it me?}

09 Aug 2016 15:53:52
There you go again. Being positive :-)

09 Aug 2016 17:10:45
Ed you won't want to be there! It will be depression for you 3-1 to the Arsenal.

{Ed001's Note - I would still love watching my team mate, it is just better when we win!}

09 Aug 2016 22:54:05
I've feel lucky mate! There's this guy who owns the local garage in my village and he and three friends have had season tickets for years but with work commitments the others can't always go so I usually get offered about 10-12 home games a year.

09 Aug 2016 12:56:11
Y won't wenger sign Ashley Willian's!

09 Aug 2016 13:37:33
12m for a 32 year old? Nah your alright mate.

09 Aug 2016 13:56:36
Mustafi is a much better option.

09 Aug 2016 14:02:43
Willian's can play for atleast another 2 seasons he's experienced and a good leader yes he wasn't my first choice I wanted bonnuci or hummels but now there's only 5 days to the start of the season and he ticks most boxes.

09 Aug 2016 14:35:51
He's a snip at £12,000,000 that is very CHEAP

He's a defender and solid

Missed a trick there.

09 Aug 2016 15:55:46
If we don't tie up Mustafi deal, than I agree.

09 Aug 2016 16:23:34
Banbury, 12m for a 32 year old defender cheap? 😳
He wasn't worth that 2 years ago.

Van dijk is the guy we should go all out for if we miss out on Mustafi for some reason.

09 Aug 2016 16:27:27
Because he isn't good enough for Arsenal and is too old to consider. I like Mustafi and I am not avers to Evans, who might be just the type of tall, British CB we need for cold winters nights away to Stoke!

09 Aug 2016 16:39:18
Sign both - we need leaders and defenders.

09 Aug 2016 16:46:27
12 million 20 million or 25 million what difference does it make to us fans? Were Gooners? Not Accountants.
Utd fans could not careless about Pogba fee they only care what he can do in a utd shirt.

{Ed041's Note - I'd rather the money spent on players than going into the accounts.

09 Aug 2016 18:03:19
G62, Because if you stuck another £5/ £10m on that you could get yourself a better younger CB that's the way I see it mate. Get those 4 boxes ticked 😉.

09 Aug 2016 18:27:29
Je I respect your view mate but I'd rather spend 20 million on Williams than save 70 million on Higuain by bidding £1 for him.
What good does the £200 million do us fans sitting in the bank? 200 million or £200 billion to us fans is just numbers that do little or no good for the team on the pitch.

09 Aug 2016 12:16:47
It's all happening today isn't it! I knew the purchase of Pogba would start a chain reaction of transfers, let's hope our transfer will be Mustafi or lacazette 😊 CB is definitely priority right now with gabby out : ( here's hoping!

For Sunday I'm going for 2-0 arsenal ;) COYG!

09 Aug 2016 12:56:22
1-1 on Sunday.

09 Aug 2016 11:37:46
I just don't understand how stones is worth 50million apart from being young i don't het it, can anyone enlighten me? Every time i have seem him play he was average at best. If you had 50 million to spend on a defender i could proberley list 30 to 40 i would rather have.

09 Aug 2016 12:05:49
One of those things mate.

Everton weren't looking to sell him, he's young, English, decent on the ball.

Seems city REALLY wanted him and that just plays into Everton's hand.

09 Aug 2016 13:10:28
I don't understand the transfer market. John stones is 22 and wasn't always in Everton starting 11 but £50 million. Progba £90 million. Holding 2 million elneny 5 million. Now there all young and very talented, but not sure the price gap is justified.

09 Aug 2016 13:10:28
I don't understand the transfer market. John stones is 22 and wasn't always in Everton starting 11 but £50 million. Progba £90 million. Holding 2 million elneny 5 million. Now there all young and very talented, but not sure the price gap is justified.

09 Aug 2016 13:35:17
It's like a supermarket Mark.

If you buy a loaf of bread from Lidl, it's 50p

You buy the same, or similar loaf from Marks and Spencer, it's £1.75.

Your paying for the brand.

I'm not saying Holding is the same level as Stones, but it's a similar principle.

Both young, English CB's with great potential but not the finished article.

Difference is, Stones has played for a premier league team whereas Holding played for a recently relegated championship team.

Brand.

09 Aug 2016 14:10:22
I wouldn't give you 5 mil today for stones but that doesn't mean I don't think he might not turn out to be an accoplished defender. Just at the moment, an accident waiting to happen.

09 Aug 2016 14:17:21
I guess, those players will probably be there highest shirt sales and how much money the can make of marketing the players name, where as holding and elnenny are not popular names on the back of shirts in China or America.

09 Aug 2016 14:33:26
Spot on D

Spot on Steve.

09 Aug 2016 16:05:02
Im just not upset he's gone to city and not us. He would not have been an instant success here. I think it will be interesting how well he does at city, now and in the future.

09 Aug 2016 16:32:24
He's perfect for peps game, as he would have been perfect for our game but that's mental money they've paid right there but again they've identified the player they want and they've gone out and got him. Shame we can't do the same tbh #gettingjealous : (

08 Aug 2016 23:57:25
Fellas I know things are looking grim and it's tempting to think that a drop out the top 4 will bring about the kind of change we want to see, but it saddens me to say that I don't think it would.

Arsenal are a financial institution who places money over trophies on the priority list, and if we fall out of the top 4 they will only do what they think is required to get us back up in the mix again.

Enough of us just have to get bored with not winning and tune out, but let's hold our judgement until the end of the window.

. Oh, and don't look past Xhaka as a non-world-class player, that man is class and was exactly what we needed for our midfield. Well done Arsene, now let's get Morata and Mustafi and we're there!

Go Gunners!