Arsenal Banter Archive August 09 2018

09 Aug 2018 21:12:17
Looks like Mr Wise shares our concern

Wise says there is not enough pace in the Gunners backline which will ultimately be their downfall this season.

"The defenders that he's brought in, I think that was a key part of where Arsenal struggled, " he said (via Express) .

"I think they conceded 51 goals which was quite high for Arsenal. But what they haven't added is pace.

"Sokratis is not for me. I watched him play against Chelsea and he got dominated and he lacked a lot of pace.

"Lichtsteiner is obviously 34 years old, hasn't got a lot of pace and they haven't added that.

So, therefore, I think they're going to struggle.

"I look at the personnel that they've brought in and the position they ended up, sixth last year, and that's where I see Arsenal.

"I don't see that they've improved loads. My concern is their defence still.

"He hasn't convinced me with who he's brought in.

Difficult to argue and a bit disappointed in Emery's attempt to sort the defence. Happy to give me the benefit of the doubt despite the crazy Chambers decision.

09 Aug 2018 21:32:23
Is Mr wise Denis Wise?
Yes I would have liked to have seen more radical overhaul of the defence and the Chambers decision is still very strange to me but Leicester fans 2015 -16 probably weren't thrilled with the prospect of Hugh and Morgans pace going into that season but as I remember they were pretty awesome at the back that season and none to shabby going forward either.
Who knows but new managers sometimes get more out of the same players and get very different results with them than their predecessor did.

09 Aug 2018 21:38:21
Im sure we may well get caught out a few times but last season most of the goals we conceded were just rank bad defending, lack of awareness and organisation, which led to sloppy goals. The percentage that were solely down to a speed race was minimal. i'm sure Dick will account for that in our set up. The player who actually got done as much in a foot race was Bellerin.

09 Aug 2018 22:05:39
Hope so 62 as he has put a target on his own back with his first window. In terms of being organised: the Chelsea game showed we are no smarter. Be it corners, pissing around with the ball at the back or getting caught with a high line by a simple ball over the top.

If it was budget - then sell Mustafi don’t buy a keeper but buy a strong defender

Fingers crossed that the midfield really helps and Emery has a strong first season.

09 Aug 2018 22:55:31
If we'd beat Chelsea 10 0 and denied them a single shot i wouldn't be thinking job done SY mate and neither am I thinking here we go again based on that game.
Is Emery really so naive as to take this job and not see what everyone outside Arsenal has seen for years? That's to far fetched to put in eastenders, what are the odds on Arsenal finding the only other manager in the world other than Arsene who thinks our defence is ok as it was?

09 Aug 2018 23:41:53
How well Torreria settles in the DM role will be key to how well we do I feel, if he can provide that essential protection well it can negate the that lack pure pace of the CB's. Sokratis as it stands I am 50/ 50 on tbh and jury is out weather he can hack the pace of the EPL but Greeks are generally good defenders so we will see. Kos is still a big miss and I will be much happier once he is back. Loaning chambers is odd move a this point. Attacking wise we look good and I think Ozil free from the shackles of the National side can really shine this season and give us a A game. Aubu and Lacazette are gauranteed goals given the chances and I would not swap either of them for any other sides forwards tbh.

10 Aug 2018 06:45:10
Defending is not solely about pace, but positional sense and timing are essential. John Terry wasn't blessed with pace, but was a top class defender. On Sunday we may play two rapid fullbacks in Bellerin and Maitland-Niles, whilst Mustafi doesn't lack pace. With Torreira adding much needed protection in front of the back four, Leno being more a sweeper keeper and Emery's new defensive coaching and tactics, we should compensate for Sokratis's lack of pace. I had not noticed him being exploited whilst in Germany. In addition the pressing style Emery utilises leaves little time for opposing players to make quality passes in behind the defence, as they will be under pressure to pass. Modern defenders need to be quick over the first 5 to 10 yards, which is often aided by quick thinking and positional sense.

10 Aug 2018 07:26:51
Emery was right to allow Chambers to depart. Having seen him in training and in pre-season matches, he clearly believed him to be the weakest of our 4 fit CB's, which I fully concur with and I fail to understand fellow Gooners who rate him. My reservation is that we only have 4 fit CB's until the New Year when Koscileny should return and we are able to buy a CB. A single injury to a CB means we have one CB to cover 2 players for half the season.

10 Aug 2018 08:31:27
I don't think it'll be as bad as everyone makes out. If they can read the game well I'm sure it'll be okay. Most importantly let's wait and see them play before we panic.

10 Aug 2018 08:36:59
Dennis Wise hates Arsenal, what've they done? brought in jorginho and a quality keeper. anyone see his interview (jorginho) saying he's going to show the prem something they've never seen before? game passed him by, last two i seen him in that shade of blue.

10 Aug 2018 11:34:07
Forget the friendlies this Sunday will be out first glimpse of Arsenal under Emery, the test is a tough one but to be enjoyed not feared.

09 Aug 2018 19:35:07
With Perez gone and auba looking like playing as a wide forward in either a 4231 or 433 if welbeck leaves who is the back up striker? Is Nketiah ready?
If welbz leaves he needs to be replaced.
Laca
Auba ozil Miki.

Nketiah or Welbeck
Iwobi Ramsey Nelson.

09 Aug 2018 21:04:18
Nketiah deserves a shot in my view as first backup. Wellbeck is a good pro don't get me wrong but he his not at the level we need if we are serious about getting back into the big time. Put it this way I rather put my money on Nketiah scoring in a one on one than Wellbeck, which is what counts at the end of the day for strikers.

10 Aug 2018 06:37:03
I would prefer us to keep We;beck and extend his deal. He is only 27 and he offers quality cover for both the central striking role and both wide attacking roles. Nketiah has potential, but at 19 needs at least a couple of seasons to mature as a striker. Indeed, if we play Lacazette up front and Aubameyang wide left, then we need cover for both players.

09 Aug 2018 18:02:25
Hi Ed's,

Who are we looking at signing in January 2019.🤔.

09 Aug 2018 18:13:05
Better yet Ed’s could you please tell us who they’re looking at in the summer of 2020.

09 Aug 2018 19:04:50
What free agents can we ask about on a daily basis until January gets here :-)

09 Aug 2018 14:16:19
how come the window closes at 5 today? it always used to close at 11, did they think everything needed to change?

{Ed002's Note - Did who think?}

09 Aug 2018 14:59:15
the clubs when they voted to close the window before the season started, i liked staying up late drinking and watching it with mates, but ignore me, it was just a random musing, i don't want to bother you, i hope you have a good day, i'm sure you're getting enough hassle! you should of taken the day off that would of screwed with people!

{Ed002's Note - They wanted it to align with the working day for submitting, although not processing paperwork.}

09 Aug 2018 15:31:43
thanks mate, it does make more sence than 11 tbf, have a good day :)

09 Aug 2018 12:45:52
Wolves, Fulham, Liverpool and West ham have had exciting Windows not. Complaining about ours but could of done with a few more players that will push into the first team the player I'm most looking forward. To is. Terreira seems like a little pitbull that won't stop running as for Lichsteiner he can play in a back 3 and is very versatile with experience expect him to start a few matches because of Bellerin poor Form sokratis hasn't impressed in pre season looks. Like. Another mertesacker slow clumsy and not very agile so maybe he needs teirrera protecting him I think miki will have a great season alongside Aubameyang.

09 Aug 2018 12:56:44
Yeah we are 4th top spenders this window so far, but as always it's not about how much but how well you spend that counts as I'm sure Leicester will tell anyone.

09 Aug 2018 13:13:21
Needed more we never sign what we need new manager but sane terrible board who won't put much money in to us.

09 Aug 2018 13:35:14
Are we top 4 spenders? The only thing keeping me going is the Mourinho quotes 😂😆😂 I wish we had them first game instead of city.

09 Aug 2018 14:11:54
i think we are 8th top spenders g62.

09 Aug 2018 14:45:34
Oh ok Eden mate its probably changed since I read it this morning but it was Liverpool Fulham West ham then us in the table I read.
I think it's all about getting right people in more than a spending competition in reality last season we 100 million plus on 2 players and had our worst season in years.

09 Aug 2018 15:13:37
yes, I've got my fingers crossed more discipline and tactics will proove more valuble than any players and we will be like a different side! the list i saw was the same clubs you said also chelsea, leicester, everton and utd.

09 Aug 2018 15:13:37
yes, I've got my fingers crossed more discipline and tactics will proove more valuble than any players and we will be like a different side! the list i saw was the same clubs you said also chelsea, leicester, everton and utd.

09 Aug 2018 15:25:49
Been a decent window as we done the deals early which is a bonus but could have been better. Torriera is the main key signing let's hope he can give that valuble back 4 protection we crave. Sokratis does look a little slow but should be strong and good in the air and hopefully lead the back line better, but we do need Kos back ASAP.

Lichtsteiner is good signing strong and decent enough on the ball and could possibly cover CB also but is obvs only going to be a short term solution. Guendouzi has been impressive in pre-season so looks like a good buy but one for the future. Leno not really what I would call top class but with Cech coming to the end a keeper was needed not sure he will be the long term answer in goal though, is he any better than Ospina?

I think we still need another DM like Nzonghi for the harder way games and also a proper winger would be nice. I think Ramsey should have been sold to get Nzonghi tbh

Daft that Chambers was allowed to go on loan as I think while KOS is out a back 3 with chambers as the sweeper next to the slower Mustafi and Sokratis would be more solid when we are under more pressure in the big games.

09 Aug 2018 08:29:37
Hopefully we get another cb and a winger today but I ain't holding my breath on any coming in today.

09 Aug 2018 10:56:40
Agreed. Loaning Chambers and selling Perez leaves our squad too light in my opinion. Our first choice attacking options are great, but after that its Welbeck, Iwobi. that's it. not good enough.

Same with CB, Mavropanos and Holding are our backups until Jan when Kos is back.

Cant help but feel like we've messed up here.

09 Aug 2018 16:59:07
Perez going has hardly left us light, how much was he? £13 million with a goal return.

09 Aug 2018 18:31:19
So our attacking options to fill 4 positions:

Augbumeyang, Lacazette, Welbeck, Nketiah, Ozil, Iwobi, Mhkitaryan and Nelson.

Those backup 4 are likely going to be Welbeck, Nketiah, Iwobi and Nelson. i'm sorry but that is simply not good enough. Not saying Lucas Perez was the answer but we should have got somebody in.

Compared to our rivals bench/ squad its not good enough.

City - Gabriel, Mahrez, Bernardo Silva
Spurs - Llorente, Lucas, Lamela
United - Rashford, Martial, Mata


We start to lose afew through injury (which we definitely will) and we're buggered.

09 Aug 2018 06:52:56
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 9th August 2018