Arsenal Banter Archive January 09 2015

 

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09 Jan 2015 19:34:56
Agree with ed, he was avarage against us looked over weight too

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Sorry, this was supposed to be a reply to a post about gundogan

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Wouldn't say no to gundagon . Much better than arteta. But would prefer a proper DM. Rumours were back in for sokratis. Excellent player

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09 Jan 2015 18:51:33
We are desperate for some fresh thinking to be introduced to our coaching staff with fresh ideas.
Fergie changed his number two quite often most importantly they came from outside the club with different ideas, everyone we have are Arsene clone's offering more and more of the same which of course is deliberate.
But new blood is needed if not at number one then certainly in his coaching team.

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{Ed025's Note - fair point that mate..

Bet u didn't complain when the great Pat Rice was number 2!

Cammy Out!

Xz

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I just think we have become far to insular Ed and with a couple of fresh thinkers offering new input could even give Arsene a new lease of life.
I know he most probably wouldn't welcome it initially maybe but like many changes we all have forced upon us and we fear to begin withit could be the thing that saves him fading away rather than finishing on a high

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Out of all the pundits Martin keown seem to talk the most sence and I could see him giving a few players a good kick up the back side.

I agree a strong number 2 could help. Feel Wenger can be too soft on his players. Sometimes a player needs to be told when he's awful.

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Very good post G62. I had never thought of it that way.

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09 Jan 2015 15:11:06
Just watched arsene's press conference, quite positive that he's talking about signing defensive players rather than attacking players, just got to sign the defensive players . Let's hope that wenger is trying to sign khedira, would love him in an arsenal shirt!

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I think what we need is three or four more Sanchezes. As long we get a hardworking DM and a decent CB, I'm happy. The DM position is the key. Back four is more of a team work than individual, imo.

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The reason I want khedira is it may bring out best in ozil. Schniderlin. May be better for our team tho. Younger. Hasn't had bad injury and prem proven. Won't moan at khedira though love his attitude. Bayern on a free he'll go I think tho

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Hmm, I think spyder would be a good option too, probably slightly better due to being younger but also won't demand huge wages. But as you say, wouldn't turn khedira away! Well I think we need to act quick if we wanna get him, does anyone know if he's cup tied?

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I don't think we'll get khedira and Schneiderlin seems more likely next summer.
Don't know who we'll get but I really hope we get a solid DM this month and tbh I'd take anyone half decent to give mert some competition.

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I agree totally Treble, a good DM and CB as absolute minimum are desperately needed, plus the back four does need to be more of a unit working together as a team like Dixon Adams Bould Winterburn did so well.

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Couldn't agree more G62, they were amazing! The old offside trap springs to mind ;) I think what the team does lack as well though is a leader, I thought last season per would scream at the defence if we were sloppy at the back But he doesn't seem to do that now :/ like you say though a top notch CDM and defender and I think we will be back to winning ways again. But yet again, who's really available :/

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That back four with Scotty Parker in front of them, ah custard ;-)

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The only logical reason I can think of for Per's drop in form between last season and this one is the captaincy. I think he thought it was dead certain he would wear the armband this season and he got quite deflated when he didn't get it. That's all I can think of lol

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09 Jan 2015 14:15:16
This made me smile, whatever you (and at the moment I) think about Wenger, very well handled around Podolski's comments. He said: "I had many conversations with him, he had my agreement to go on loan. I deny that completely but I knew he did not get enough opportunities. We have many players, when a player of his quality doesn't get enough games you can understand he is frustrated.
"At some stage too many players is detrimental to the confidence. You need the right numbers. It had nothing to do with his quality. It is just a loan without an option to buy - that means he is back at the end of the season."

2nd chance for Podolski?

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09 Jan 2015 13:41:18
wenger saying we have three topclass goal keepers in our squad. can anyone tell me which three goalies we have signed iv missed the transfer news

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09 Jan 2015 14:33:37
Shezza: Joint Golden Glove last season - Regular starter for Poland and in his defence he has kept us at 2-1 countless times!

Ospina - Colombia #1 and our second keeper (Performed very well at Nice in his time as well) - Not bad for 2nd keeper

Martinez - Still not complete but for a 3rd keeper he has done well when called upon.


GKs are not our immediate problem In my opinion!

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All I'm saying is there not top class. Can them keepers win us a title. Doubtful. Martinez looks good prospect tho

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09 Jan 2015 17:50:22
I think de gea shows the difference a top keeper can make. Its hard to tell how many points he's got untd and which saves a different keeper would of also made, but I honestly think they would be bellow us without him

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09 Jan 2015 10:55:43
To say that Podolski is not good enough for us when we are lying 6th on the log and 13 points off the leaders is shocking.

To say that Podolski is not good enough for us when we give first team chances to an unknown 21 year old Frenchman who we did not even see come into Arsenal is worrying. the boy was about to quit football to become a postman but somehow Wenger found him good enough to play for us.The boy is sooo clumsy I swear at some point, I thought I was watching an Episode of Fool Britannia

Wenger has brain washed so many fans into believing his philosophies.

If Podolski who was selected as a squad member to represent the eventual world champions Germany, even if it was for a few mins the entire tournament, it shows that he must have an attribute that Joachim Loew thought was good enough. So the world champions thought Podolski was good enough to wear the jersey, Arsenal who are 6th on the log and have not beaten a big side for a really long time think he is an overpaid bloke who doesn't track back enough.

I will eat my words when France win the world cup with Giroud and Sanogo as starters or subs on the bench.

Rant over

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09 Jan 2015 11:40:37
Maybe just maybe because the likes of Sanogo, Giroud, Monreal, Mertesacker and Podolski play for us is exactly the reason why we are lying 6th.

I'm not sure people have actually said he is not good enough just that had he got his head down and showed when given the opportunity as a striker that he could cut the mustard he may well still be here.

It's ok to smash a couple of thunderbolts into the back of the net but you have to have more than that.

Sanogo is not the reason he has moved on.

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Poldolski is a great finisher end of, no pace no work rate no real contribution to team effort.
If you look at our whole team only Welbeck Sanchez Ox Debuchy and probably Rosicky to be fair have that much interest once the ball is behind them in tracking back on a regular basis and regaining possession when we loose the ball , most become spectators or at best jogger's hoping someone else will do it.
Our work rate without the ball is shocking through most of the team

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09 Jan 2015 11:46:21
Podolski is not good enough.

Welbeck, Alexis, Ox, Rosicky, Santi, hell even Joel Campbell give more for us on that wing with work ethic.

He is also on astronomical wages for a bit part player.
I love the idea of Podolski.
In theory however, it has not worked out that well!

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The problem with Pod playing for Arsenal is that he was stuck out wide. He's not a winger or a wide player, his work rate isn't up there for that. I like the guy (but it did irk me how quickly he donned the Inter scarf) but his game just isn't compatible with ours. Put him with an Everton, a Newcastle or a Cologne and he'd bang them in but not for Arsenal, Munich and I doubt Inter either.

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09 Jan 2015 14:27:43
Firstly, had Marco Reus and Mario Gomez been fit they would have gone to the world cup ahead of Podolski. He came on as a sub in one game. Hardly a world cup winner.

Secondly, Podolski is a different player to Sanogo. Whenever played as a ST Podolski has been disapointing. Sanogo is a better option as a ST. FA Cup final (may have been semi final) I believe Sanogo was subbed on and made a real impact.

Thirdly, Podolski was not getting any game time behind Ox and Sanchez. And not with Walcott back he goes even further down the list. i'd rather give those chanecs to Gnabry or Campbell and help them develop.

Finally, Podolski is an excellent finisher and has a fantastic shot on him. Other than that what does he offer? Campbell proved he can score, has energy and can beat players. Ox and Sanchez both have fantastic work rates. Even Cazorla out wide is a better option imo.

Podolski leaving was the right move for everyone, its cleared 90k off out wage budget and now we can get in players in the areas we desperatly need. Like CB.

Peace out

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09 Jan 2015 09:33:59
I'm liking the prospect of us signing Paolo Dybala. I watched him last season and a bit this season for Palermo and he looks mustard. BT sport were calling him the new Messi. Wicked left foot. Reminded me of Eduardo in his hay day. Worthy acquisition.

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09 Jan 2015 10:20:59
Did Edwardo have a hay day lol

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{Ed025's Note - good point chris.. :)

Best striker in Europe before his leg was broken. We would have strolled to the title that season imo.

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09 Jan 2015 11:47:06
*Eduardo.

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09 Jan 2015 14:07:42
Thanks Rob mate :)

I don't know how I forgot to spell his name considering the foot print he left on the PL and arsenal :)

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09 Jan 2015 14:13:43
Do you really believe that Davros?

He could finish I'll give u that, but best striker in Europe? Come on pal, Raul, Rooney, Torres Adriano, Crespo to name a few, I think might have something to say about it lol.

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09 Jan 2015 14:34:49
Sorry Chris - Edwardo just made me laugh too much to not comment.

I agree - not world class but he was playing some great stuff before the injury!

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Lol, chris how dare you bring Shrek to this argument

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09 Jan 2015 04:12:36
Eds is there any truth in the Alexandre Lacazette rumours? Personally I think he'd be an ideal signing along with a CB & DM

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't know much about rumours.}

09 Jan 2015 06:52:00
After Podolski's criticism of the way Wenger treated him, it is something that I have noticed. Some players can do no wrong, whilst others are continually overlooked. Podolski had a good end of season, followed by the World Cup and was completely overlooked upon his return. The same goes for Campbell who had a fine season last year and a decent World Cup, but Wenger has hardly given him any opportunities. Rosicky has only been playing recently, due to the huge injury crisis and Jenkinson was shunted out on loan, despite only the lack of first team defenders.
If Wenger had boosted the confidence of the players I mentioned, I am certain their contribution would have been better.
Meanwhile 9 days into the window we have realeased one player on loan & look no closer to making any signings, other than a 17 year old Polish player, which is dragging on. Is Kim Kaleestrom on the way again?

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Robbie you have allowed your expectancy levels to be raised you must get them back under control for your own sake mate.
Expect nothing and then if anything happens its a bonus mate.
Try not to think what should happen and who we need and should be trying to sign and think what is the most likely outcome of the January window.
Faint hope is fine becuse you never know but expectancy will only make you sad

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09 Jan 2015 08:27:21
A quote from Mr Podolski,

"He said nothing to me. He did not call me or say goodbye."

"I don't need flowers or a kiss from him."

"But it is about respect, about saying goodbye. For me respect is important."

I'm guessing your own phone was bust or your ability to walk in his office and thank him for the opportunity was not an option before you jumped on a plane and took the easy option.

Once players like Sanchez and Welbeck arrived and showed him what work rate could achieve and he failed to step up to the mark but rather just whined on social media then his chances were further limited.

We have way better options.

Rosicky has done what Podolski failed to do, be professional about his situation. Jenkinson wasn't shunted anywhere and Campbell hasn't yet proved his worth with opportunities given.

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Red your right about poldolski work rate it was abysmal.
But its interesting how Sanchez and Welbecks work rate is so easily noticeable in our team, for me the only one of pre summer signings who matches their work rate and obvious effort is Ox.

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We knew what we were getting, a world class finisher … so none of this would come as a big surprise. Poldi did what we asked of him, if that was not enough then why bring him in?

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09 Jan 2015 10:14:27
Cost Red Rooster,

What was considered the best we could get for the money, like Mertesacker, Monreal etc.

We now need to and hopefully are aiming higher. People talk of Wenger being too loyal yet when he offloads someone they're still not happy.

He wants first team football, didn't want, like I said, to put the yards in so off you trot Mr Podolski.

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09 Jan 2015 01:00:38
Any chance of us buying pauliniho from spurs, just the player we need real box to box tough tackler?

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Go and wash your mouth out with soap.

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09 Jan 2015 06:27:02
Soap! I'd be more inclined to use nitromors:)

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He isn't good enough for the Toot, so why on earth would we sign him. The only player I would consider signing from the Toot is Lloris.

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09 Jan 2015 08:32:29
I recall Gooners saying we should have got him, Holtby, Dembele and Capoue before they joined the toot, everyone of them has since showed how pants they are.

Paulinho is probably the worst of that lot, utter gash!

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One had move doesn't make a player rubbish, if Ozil doesn't work out for us it doesn't mean his next club won't get him back to his best again.
Sometimes players chose the wrong club at the wrong time, Suarez and Barcelona come to mind

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For me, once a player signs for Spurs, it should entitle him to many things, including a long career. But the one thing that signing for Spurs should permanently remove from you future career, is ever having the opportunity to play for Arsenal.

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