Arsenal Banter Archive July 09 2013

09 Jul 2013 23:29:43
Does anyone have any news on a new Gk and Cb?

09 Jul 2013 22:28:41
I'm not ITK and won't pretend to be but all I say is FFS let's get out business done right this time. We have a good squad now do it's time to bring in those world class players that tilt the balance. As city showed last season as team of superstars don't make champions but we need a world class game changing striker who when were desperate will put that 30 yarder in or that 2 ff tap in. So come on AW finish in style and bring us a trophy back, up the gooners

09 Jul 2013 21:15:51
Although makes for good reading, this Higuain story really has shown how little people really know about what's going on inside the emirates.
Arsenal will end up without any of the suggest "big names" this season, it's all down to PR for selling season tickets & new shirt sales.
Sadly this is a little closer to the truth than any top player all us paying supporters deserve!

The shirt sales point is a little of the mark.
If you bought a shirt with Higuain on the back before he signed you don't deserve the money!

Just be patient we ll get the right players just keep the faith, shirt sales are only improved by signing new players I reckon we ll see some signings by the end of the week lots of talk about a return for a certain spaniard. Watch this space.
LP

09 Jul 2013 22:34:48
Season tickets were sorted in June. If a few promising bargin buckets from France arrive and no big players, then Wenger will become a very unpopular person. The signings, or lack of them will fall squarely on Wengers shoulders. the reason for this is due to the power he has at the club. He wealds more power than any other manager in the EPL and maybe more than Any Coach in world football. He tells the CEO how much we should pay in both wages and Fee. Time will tell. km

Hassan you've missed the point a little mate.

Season ticks have already been paid for this season (I know I've paid for mine ages ago).

So do you honestly think they are working on us now, with all this "PR", so that we will renew for next season!

Seriously, the fans are going to be furious when the win closes, without any significant purchase (s).

If it wasn't already bad enough for many disillusioned fans, IG has really set the expectations bar high with his announcement. I think the back leash will be huge, with years of mounting frustration.

Plus, they would sell more shirts by signing new players.?

Sorry your post doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me.

I am still (quietly) hopeful we will get some good signings this summer.
LG

The comments are misinterupted he didn't say arsenal hadn't been but that arsenal didn't have an accepted bid, so arsenal still bid just below Madrid's valuation

09 Jul 2013 20:58:51
25m plus Walcott for Suarez =title even with no more signings we would win the title so just imagine him and a world class cdm and great keeper ooooh my

Jelfy f

If we could buy a replacement right winger with genuine pace, ie with the kind of credentials of Arjen Robben or Alexis Sanchez then I could see it as plausible.

Gooner83

Why would we get rid of walcott. I don't get the minds of some arsenal fans.

09 Jul 2013 19:40:43
we all really know how this will play out, a bid for player a, rejected, we won't up the offer, man city or chelski come in and buy. we bid for player b, rejected. we won't up the offer man city or chelski come in and buy. see a pattern?
wenger you are in charge of this, you can't act like this anymore, if we want a player you have to pay the price, moaning you won't get into a bidding war won't cut it any more. the fan base really need a major signing, and soon

Why would the club listen to clueless fans like you when bidding for players.
most fans have no idea what it takes to buy a player you make it sound like buying a can beans from the super market.
as if the board gives a monkies what you think lol!
just watch the team when they play and leave the rest to the pros and if you don't like it then there are lots of other teams to go and support.
some fans are so up their own a**es its unbelievable.
COYG

Let's not get angry. wait and see but I bet I'm right. been supporting 45 yrs so think I got a handle on it

To the second comment i'm sorry if your not going to spend money why come out and say you have a war chest.

Leave it to the pro's we have for years and we haven't won anything celebrating 4th place like it's a trophy i'm sorry Arsenal are in a bad state or affairs if we don't sign some top class players how long do you think Wilshere will stay honestly without a chance of winning anything?

If were not going to spend the money we have why boast about it especially if we're holding back over a couple of million when were offering 22+. Yes players values are ridiculous and so are wages but were here in todays market not in the past if we want higuian pay the extra 2 million guarantee champions league and respect the fans.

We have one of the most expensive season tickets in the world and have a positive balance most years. People are happy to spend money if its reinvested in winning. How the board and wenger can raise prices and in some cases their wages without any end product is beyond disbelief i'm sorry saying other fans are up their own ar**s for wanting to show some ambition is ridiculous. You're the kind of fan that holds us back who is happy for 4th. When most people think 3 world class signings would have us competing for the title and would at least show the respect to the fans they deserves as we pay so much money.

If we have 70 million spend it don't dilly dally over a couple million if they're your main target and someone you think will improve and fit in the team take the chance. You don't get anywhere in life without taking risks.

Every year its the same false promises and fake hope of change. I personally want Wenger to stay but only if he changes his policies of transfers and wages given to players who don't deserve it.

Yeah you should support the team whatever, agreed. But they lie, deceive and then in some cases it seems blatantly mock us or take us for muggs. So don't call us plastic fans or persons for thinking the board should listen to their fans. The board should give a MONKIES how we feel, we should be relevant to them, were they're income. Unfortunately that's the only way they view us apparently. Big pr stunt at the kit launch watch out! = Some players in kits. Wow.

I think and hope this year will be different, and I would love for me to be wrong about how are clubs run. I want quality signings and think they could happen but its same every year. So inside i'm just going to wait and accept were not that active anymore and if anything happens I will be extremely happy.

If we signed Cesar, Fellaini, Higuian and a cheap midfielder/playmaker. I would be happy or a CB/RB like Richards even happier. It might happen probably wont.

I know a bit doom or gloom in some aspects but how long have we been denied the truth and deceived. Why do we pay so much for fake hopes with no respect shown to us. Because we accept. I hope things change. Well wait and see. Hopefully there's some updates or arsenal.com soon. COYG

Bournemouth Gooner

I'm with Bournemouth 100%, as a season ticket holder this will be my last year with a season ticket unless there is significant investment in the team - I'm tired of paying high prices to watch some players amble about like they don't give a toss, and a manager who never seems to pull the players up if they don't put the effort in. Far too muych is given to squad players in wages - check how much they'd be on at Man United or Liverpool, no way would they pay what Wenger sanctions to bit part players and seldom used subs.

09 Jul 2013 17:50:37
Eds is it possible (i don't know if this theory has been said already but. ) that we're bidding for Saurez to test out the price Real were going to bid initially?
So now Real know not to bid less than £30million etc etc etc.
So in the dark about how football transfers are done, wish we could have a fly on the wall for our favourite teams

PdotY {Ed027's Note - one or the other, that is all

Some crafty tactics,
it's like back handed drug deals man

PdotY {Ed007's Note - How do you know that?????? ;-)

WELL!
'i don't know anything about dat' - a wenger

PdotY

09 Jul 2013 17:47:33
NB 52 to stay and be our new star striker signing

09 Jul 2013 17:40:27
Arsenal looking to cash in on giroud with inter Milan the most likely destination in a deal that would fund the signing of Marouane Fellaini

Giroud isn't going anywhere and we aren't getting Fellaini.

Nick.

Nothing to do with your news mate- but my immediate response to this, is, yeah cause we really need the money don't we?

Just ask IG.

I smell something what is though? Hmmm oh it's bulls**t! Why would we sell our only recognised striker?! He had a decent first season and will improve plus we're trying to build a squad not break it up!


SM1996

Ridiculous! Why on earth would Arsenal sell Giroud to fund the transfer of Fellaini? Arsenal do not need to sell before buying. The money is there, and transfers will happen. Just got to be patient, guys. A lot of players had left, and replacements will be bought! We will get a big-name signing this summer, and the future is bright.

Norwegian Gunner

Announce we have a fortune
Say we can buy basically anyone
Say we can do more than £250kpw for a player
Sell Giroud after one season to be able to buy a midfielder?

Ich don't think so.

09 Jul 2013 17:24:53
No chance of us signing anyone of notice before we go on tour, in fact I doubt seriously the arrival of any big name. The club is doing great business selling/loaning players away from the club I fully support and hope it continues there's still lots to go.

Why is everyone wanting Fellaini? Did I watch different match of the day last season? He was ok, had a a couple of stand out games but nowhere near the value being bandied about.

Holmesy

Honestly, I think Fellaini thought he would be sold in January. He was having a world class season up til then, and he dropped off soon after the close of the window.

09 Jul 2013 17:00:41
Arsenal will sign Suarez, Fabregas, Rui Patricio and Fellaini before july ends.

09 Jul 2013 16:18:20
Aguero has said he wants to go to Barca. Man City will scupper something for someone - probably Higuain knowing our luck!

Barcelona really don't have money for another forward.

aguero will cost nothing under 40mill euros.

Alexis sanchez and a few others would need to be sold. rumours is a absolute no go.

besides city will want a mega name and higuain is not it for them.

09 Jul 2013 16:10:33
Truly audacious that!

Pfft. I think they do all this JUST to wind us up.

We'll learn one day. I bet they think hanging out the washing is a orgasmic experience.
Expect the worse, hope for the best.
They f**kin owe us fans big time.
Flybo

09 Jul 2013 16:08:31
Did this unveiling involve Higuain then?

DazGunner

Yup they unveiled he plays for a team in spain called real madrid.

09 Jul 2013 15:45:58
This is what will happen.

At the next Arsenal press conference, Wenger will be asked about transfers. He'll play coy, say something like

Wenger: ". We are looking yes for top top quality, and only for the right player to improve our squad"

Journalist: "What about reports of a deal for Higuain?"

Wenger: "He is a player I like"

Then he'll be pushed on it, something like

Journalist: ". are you in talks with Real, is he on his way to Arsenal?"

Wenger: "We have already Giourd, and Poldolski in that position, Theo too. Also we have Sanogo to provide us wid a lidil bit of options"

Journalist: Does that mean you are not interested in Higuain?

Wenger: ". he is a player I like. Like I said, we have top top quality in our squad"

Journalist: What about other reports linking you with Fellaini and Barry?

Wenger: "I don't know about dat"

Transfer Window Closes - The End.

Justagooner

This is spot-on. The nightmare scenario that I've had disturbing my sleep! I've just listened to talkcrap and somehow you have to agree that with a purported war chest of 70-100 mill. we should have secured at least one marquee signing. Talkcrap have an obsession with our club, and I usually lol at the tish that is emitted. However they have a point. Yes, there is enough time, but who is our top target (s)? Other top English and Euro clubs are buying now. I'm reaching for the Valium.

Haha so true.

I was imagining the press conference as I was reading it.

Brilliant.

Nick.

I believe in this in this team individually collectively blah blah blah

Bang on

Wolvo gooner

Great post.
AG

What they said ^

09 Jul 2013 15:08:14
So the new launch today expect a copy of the existing wrap arkund the stadium with club legends this time with Jenko, ox, walcott, Gibbs and wilshire showing last nike away kit. Don't expect a signing you will only be disappointed!
Arsenal are only interested in your cash people have in thier wallets.
kroenke sports enterprises are sucking us the fans dry.
I am not a black scarf activist just a fan who has clarity and is fed up and annoyed with the club he has followed for 20 years.
We have three new sponsorship deals totaling 200 million plus inluding tv deal and we are looking to bring in Benteke do me a favour!
Someone with sense analyse the accounts inter company service charges not divedens that's is how he could take money! He won't spent he won't sell the club and we have to foote the bill guys tough love is needed in America the only time he listened to angry fans was when they boycotted the games get active guys. And letem know we are not happy!

09 Jul 2013 14:45:53
Why are people expecting a surprise at the release of the new away kit?

Sure it's fun to speculate but I don't see anything happening, other than the release of the away kit.

As long as we wrap up some quality signings before the Asia tour I'm not fussed.

Nick.

The aisia tour is on bloody thursday not looking good is it?

09 Jul 2013 13:59:57
The thing about this kit reveal is, why?

Why make this big a fuss over a kit? I can't logically think of a time when we've ever done this before nor a reason for making this kind of fuss. Especially when we already know what it looks like.

Surely Arsenal know full well what conclusion we'll jump to, and to be honest, it feels like nothing will happen and it's another exercise in stringing us along again. Which if it is, why?

God, I'm so confused by this whole thing. Makes no sense, UNLESS a new player is modelling this kit. But then it'd have to be a big signing that'd get people excited enough to justify that kind of grand reveal and I just can't picture it.

I will however hope for Higuain, a Cesc return or that maybe we've been saving up for the last decade to buy Messi, and that Barca singed Neymar as his replacement ;)

I think like someone else said, could be a Bergkamp statue, which he totally deserves, but will leave me dejected no doubt.

Imagine if they used a new singing to unveil the kit and nobody had a clue who the guy was! I would cry with laughter!

So what if it's just a kit revealing
cermony, are u not curious at all? The more the club do to make people interested, the more fans we get. The signings will come, trust the Arsenal!

Dejection it is then

Well it seems Arsenal and Gazidas consider a picture on the side of the stadium an "audacious publicity stunt", it must have taken then months and a lot of effort to come up with that. perhaps we should sue them under the trades description act as its not audacious and barely even a publicity stunt

Viking, I agree with what you say, but if the marketing director of Arsenal comes out and says be prepared for an audacious stunt we expect more than just our homegrown players standing on a podium in the kit. He's not stupid, it was a stunt, but it was a stunt to get as much spotlight on the kit as possible, nothing more, sadly! Still, best away kit we've had for years!

09 Jul 2013 13:36:19
The new kit has got a collar! Whoopee!
Unveiling it? Who can be bothered to pay any attention to an unveiling ceromany of a football kit. Get a life!

09 Jul 2013 12:22:45
Everybody needs to just calm down!

It is true we have not signed anybody yet, but we are still 2 months away from the end of the transfer window.

Have some faith in the club, I feel this will be a very positive window for us this season. We will be in a far better position with our squad than we have ever been at the END of the transfer window.

If we do not sign anybody of a decent calibre the fans on here who are criticising the club will still go to ever game, Yes you will moan but you will not take any action.

If the club let's us down then we will have to find a real tangible voice but until that happens, let's be patient and have some faith that the people who run the club are in tune with the fans, but more importantly have the vison and ambition to match the passionate support that we show for our beloved club.

PTG

Im very mellow

malaga gooner

We have been very very patient for a good number of years now. We have the money to improve the team, quality players have been made available and the cleverer teams have done business, so why the F. K don't we buy the players we need and bed them in during the close season.
What have the board been doing for the last 5 months, they should have been planning for this opportunity to improve the team but clearly they have not. Its time to change their attitude to wanting to improve and win things for the fans!
I hope Usmanov forces his way in shakes this stagnant board up!

09 Jul 2013 11:38:39
Submitting a bid to Suarez, I believe it is physiological game between Wenger and Perez
I believe the idea is " ok, you don't give us Hig, we will get your target Suarez.
I might be wrong, but don't think Wenger will want to deal with such an attitude as Suarez. look at the past, all those attitude players are gone, and he doesn't want players with such an ego. or maybe it is a game between BR and AW who knows to teas Madrid

Macedonian gooner

09 Jul 2013 11:15:28
Firstly, the story on Barry is coming from the Star. Why does this make it automatically true.
What annoys me is when the press print story's like 'Arsenal in for Higuain' or 'Arsenal in for Fellaini' EVERYONE DOUBTS IT!

When the print negative story's like Barry people believe it and slate Wenger, the Board etc, everyone has the right to criticise but atleast be consistent or at minimum at least don't slate the squad based on transfer garbage in the Star. Bids and Enquiries are concrete on: Rooney, Higuain, Bedner and 'apparently' Suarerz (according to the Eds here) to whom I have no reason to doubt) So we have changed our policy and we are willing to spend. It will take time though AW will still like a bargain and if clubs know what we have available financially then we will be priced out so the negotitations will take some amount of time.

Chill the nerves, take a vallium, put the feet up and let what happens happen.

Also, please lay off the signing of Sanogo, we have lost a lot of fringe / squad / youth players and they will all need replacing, some of the comments towards Sanogo have been utterly embarrassing and anyone criticising him because he isn't Higuian or Rooney should be completely ashamed and hang their heads. You are the same 'fans' who will say 'I knew he was class' if he does well.

Part pooping moment: Also the 'Audacious Stunt' today is the unveiling of a massive banner outside the Emirates with the current squad in the new kit, I have seen images of it being put up last night.

09 Jul 2013 11:04:34
Today at 3:30 Arsenal officially unveil the new kit.

Call it a hunch but i'm expecting a surprise along with it ( I may be wrong)possibly the announcement of a player returning? let's wait an see.

No. They'll unveil the new kit. End of!

Don't get your hopes up. I would suggest you do something worthwhile and not be disappointed.

09 Jul 2013 10:40:45
Suarez link was to force Real into making a decision over Higuain and now Benteke is available Perez knows we can redirect our intention away from Higuain, leaving Real with a player who wants to leave.
I expect Higuain to move by the end of the week and Fellaini to follow aloing with one or two players from France

09 Jul 2013 10:08:35
Would Barry be as bad a signing some seem to think?

He would be a safe but unspectacular signing which is kind of what you want from a DM. A defensive midfielder is not really a young man's position, Barry for example started out his career at Villa on the left of the back three before moving onto the left wing via left back, before settling in the middle of the park. He could be an Arteta-like signing (albeit older and less technically gifted), one crucial thing is that he is a Premier League winner.

Providing he has realistic wage demands I think he could be a good short term signing.

No! please! A cast off like Sylvestre.

Not just a bad signing would be a terrible signing. We keep talking signings of intent well Barry would not fall into that category but the backward step signing category. Please just be paper s**t.

Barry has played over 30 league games each season he has been at Man City. Silvestre managed a total of 17 in his final 2 seasons at Utd. If Barry is a cast off he is a cast off due to a change of manager and apparently Man City fans rate him very highly.

Don't get me wrong I would rather see someone like Fellani however Barry is not 5 times worse and the money could be spent elsewhere in the team.

Barry is awful. We shouldtry to sign Fellaini.

09 Jul 2013 10:05:25
Any 1 think we should ask about kaka? £35 million 4 him and higuain and we want it done by Friday!


Azzy84 gunner

09 Jul 2013 09:28:23
We are Arsenal and well known to be brilliant, I wonder why we are now getting blown off by a cheap transfer puzzle.

Remeber when we were kids and teacher gave a puzzle like: 2+2+ (__)= 10. 5, and still went on claiming the answer is not 6. 5 'psychological game' wake up!

Questions to guide your thought:
-Juve pulled out of the race given a rather too ridiculous excuse (they avoid to state that another club has wrap up his deal)
-If HG is still available, why is he not link with other clubs?

XYZ Gunner

You what?

09 Jul 2013 09:13:16
so higuain to rooney/torres fellaini why are we linked with barry 32 year old never was been very dissapointed mr wenger I know this could be another smoke screen to help push the fellaini deal through but barry jesus christ man

09 Jul 2013 08:28:00
I really think that Arsene Wenger has already made some signings. Its just an lnkling, not from anyone's dog or anyone's second cousin twice removed who works for Emirates etc. Arsene understands the pressure that the club is under, more than all the fans put together. I do not think he will make the past mistakes again. One thing I do know is he will try and get good deals done in secret. As experienced as he is, I do not think he waited until the first of July to start negotiations. Targets have long since been identified and am sure some deals have already been agreed. I think its a matter of timing when to announce the signings.

If I am wrong, then I will be convinced that the problem rests with the board rather than Arsene. because they should be pushing him to buy since they "gave him such a big warchest"

Hope you're right.

Let's hope so I am hoping that wenger has done the deals already? If not they need 2 answer to the fans

09 Jul 2013 07:52:03
Hi guys

Does anyone think we will sign Jovetic now gomez is at fiorentina, if so do you think we will get higuain? Could be like Henry and Bergkamp again. I'd love to see it

Bergkamp5353

When higuain is available then we should get him.

Teams in Italy can't afford him, teams in Germany the big teams have their strikers, and I really don't see Bayern wanting him, they should land lewandowski at the last minute.

Mancity, Spurs, liverpool and US. those are the teams who would be interested in him.

liverpool won't do a swap, as it would devalue their striker, and I don't see it happening. Man city are still very quiet and I fear they may take him from us. spurs would probably offer him the moon, so its an open game now.

09 Jul 2013 05:50:29
ARSenals big striker will be Henry lol and as for Gareth Barry this has to be a joke right?

09 Jul 2013 04:40:20
signing Barry would be an offence worthy of sacking for me. He is a disgraceful player.

Just some perspective, it depends who else wenger brings in- if he is a short-term squad/back-up player, because we have brought a good dm whatever as well, I won't feel so bad.

So for me its in context (although I still won't be exactly happy tbh).

If he is the only type of central mid added to the squad this summer, then I would have think what the hell is wenger doing and for me it would be a serious backwards step.

Haha, post of the day for me

His lack of pace and mobility would be a problem in our team. He has decent left peg but overall not good enough even if he may come cheap. There are much better DM's out there.

09 Jul 2013 03:21:14
Do you think that the talk about all this money and big signings was just a lie to get people to renew there season tickets. I know 7 ticket holders and all except 1 said they was getting rid this season. But with all the talk of this money they have renewed. They could just drag the rumours out as they usually do and come up with the same excuse the price was too high or the wages are too much, and end up buying second class players.
I hope I am wrong but what do you guys think
G man

09 Jul 2013 01:02:09
Well it's one thing to leave because a massive team came in for you and offered your club a fee they couldn't ignore - it's another to have a club fork out a massive fee for you, only for you to go an ditch them after one season.

I can completely understand that money talks and big players want to play at very highest end in football, but honestly, Benteke handing in an actual TF request? That's a disgrace. Make no mistake, Aston Villa are a big club, they're trying to do things the hard way and they have a manager with a long view who is building something with young players in the hope that they gain experience as a unit and develop into a successful team. It's highly ambitious and he showed faith in Benteke when he had Bent at the club. Aston Villa have literally lost a fortune on Bent because of what they did for Benteke. Weimann signed a new deal (I think) and they have a project that needs the belief of the players.

Benteke has strolled into the prem as a kid, done very well and actually ASKED to leave at first proper chance. Sorry but that is a disgrace and I would be absolutely gutted for the Villa fans. Obviously I know exactly how it feels as a gooner when players don't believe in what the manager is tryingt o achieve, or they don't want to give back to the manager for the faith and investment in them, or they think the grass is greener elsewhere.

Guess what Benteke, if you play badly at Villa you'll get picked every week. You play badly at Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal or anywhere else and you're getting dropped. You're a kid with a lot to learn, bad ditching the club that brought you to the spotlight!

Spot on its players like that we don't need and I can't see villa letting him go cheap 20/25 mil. I think he will be one of those players that always looks for more money
MgM

Agree with you metal gooner, but will Arsenal fans accept him if he comes to you?
Davo

This reminds a little of adebayor. (gggrrr) -has a good season, gets too big for his boots, etc.

How has it worked out for him, I can't recall?

09 Jul 2013 00:47:09
The higuain deal seems to have gone dead just like the jovetic one.
Kb

Everything is quiet, and that's good news for Arsenal.

Trinidad-Gooner

I hope that means it's done. think about it, no other clubs seem to be interested anymore. For me that's a sign that they know it's done

Trinadad, gone quite! really, real do not want us to have any player from them, typical spainish team, will take but not give and we wre mugs to sell to them. hig will not come real will do anything they can to stop it.
fear we will not have any signings heading our way. all talk from wenger yet again