Arsenal Banter Archive July 09 2014

09 Jul 2014 22:30:38
What time is the kit luanch

D16 says it's 11pm. So work on Friday can just be me sleeping!

09 Jul 2014 23:01:18
Serious? that's wicked late!

09 Jul 2014 23:03:56
It's Defo 11pm I looked on arsenal.com. Well that's when the presentation starts so who knows what time. Stupid time to be fair

A dumb time, no players mentioned until the weekend then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, maybe

10 Jul 2014 00:00:46
I can't see me doing any work tomorrow night

Is that not the time they go on sale?

I can see why people think a player would be unveiled tonight but I can't see it. Puma are investing a huge amount of money on arsenal. Their first major deal of this size in football. Why would they want to share the limelight?
If it was a puma endorsed player maybe. Also Wenger is still in Brasil and will be till next week. I may be wrong but I'm not getting over excited about it

Good point Rocky. If we unveil a new signing at the same time as the kit, the player will steal the headlines and overshadow the kit.

Maybe the player would further promote tge sponser. i.e sanchez would promote puma in chille.

10 Jul 2014 16:48:23
I see where your coming from but
unveiling the players would be good for Puma when the story is reported on every article will say
"At the launch of the new puma partnership etc."
Plus it gives them an opportunity to take the credit

-Puma with they're landmark deal has afforded Arsenal the financial might to draw big players, yada yada bright future, more stars, puma brand etc.

10 Jul 2014 16:50:55
Plus they're are people who have no interest in Arsenal/Puma association but are definietly interested in the transfer dealings.

It's all about having eyes on the brand and Puma will be plastered on every background of every snap that makes every article.

Let's wait and see though. Maybe we haven't signed anyone yet even!

09 Jul 2014 21:16:16
Steve r,

Just noticed your avatar.

I wonder why you chose Jack Dee?

love it mate.

PS, Ed025, where's yours?

{Ed025's Note - i am not a technical guy dags...an avatar is a 16ft alien in a film to me mate..

Do you know dags, I haven't got a clue. I think it must have something to do with my past life or maybe my future life. It is a good likeness though. NOT. i'm far better looking. From the back.

09 Jul 2014 21:31:34
Ed,

There's a pic of a cool dude in shades, strolling down the beach with a Southern comfort in hand that's got your name written all over it mate, lol.

09 Jul 2014 22:14:13
But you do have the same dead-pan sense of humour, lol.

09 Jul 2014 21:07:03
Just throwing this one out there.

Does anyone else feel a little "underwhelmed" by Mathieu Debuchy potentially becoming an Arsenal player?

I just don't feel he's quality. He's a good solid RB but could we aim higher or am I being harsh?

Sanchez on the other hand. Call me McDonalds because I'm lovin' it!

{Ed025's Note - debuchy is a solid full back greeny, arsenal are not barca mate, and cant afford world class in all positions, it will be a blend of world class and prem quality players imo..just the way it is fella..

09 Jul 2014 22:04:34
Debuchy is quality mate.

Solid right back, gets forward and has a very similar stats to Sagna.

Defensively, as solid as Sagna, 3 years younger, experienced International, Prem League experience, and has kept Sagna out of French team.

What's not to like?

I felt like that to begin with mate but I read an article today that made me feel a lot more happy with him.

No specialist right-back in any of Europe's top five leagues won more aerial duels (four) per game last season than Debuchy.

That's got to help with set piece defending, an area we can be suspect at times.

Its hard to use the words world class when you think of right backs (Lahm the exception for me) but we've lost a player and replaced him with the man keeping him out of his national teams starting 11.

That has to be a step up right?

Hes ahead of sagbo and aurier in french team, so someone thinks he's an upgrade. We will see.

Agree with you on this one Dags, he is a good reliable signing, suited to the PL

Do you mean Aurier who plays for the Ivory Coast?

I'm quite happy to be honest. He's 28 and had 18months in the premier league. We don't need to wait for him to "acclimatise" to the league. He's got better the longer he's been in the league. And at 28 it kind of still gives hope that Jenkinson can up his game when/ if given the chance so in 2-3 years he can take over. There was a lot of call for Serge Aurier. But he's 21, would need that settling in period. Something we don't want to be waiting for now.

09 Jul 2014 23:17:50
I think he's good, not great.

But it's been pointed out before that there are very few great full backs these days. Particularly on the right.

It's not a bad acquisition but like you're saying its Underwhelming.

Would love to have gotten Aurier, but we need more EXP and Debuchy is the right choice I think.

Personally I'd jettison Jenko for a chance at signing Aurier while he's ~£8m

Well spotted wg keep thinking he's french but only plays in france.

At least it will be a more even keel for Jenks to force his hand into the team! We have Gibbs and Monreal who on each of their days are very close ability wise and now Debuchy and Jenks can battle it out healthy competition on both flanks :)

10 Jul 2014 16:36:17
i like Debuchy,i find him so under rated,if we would have signed Aurier then jenks would have been gutted ,
in signing debuchy we have a premier league established player and at nearly 29,if jenks potential comes on,then he can take over.so I for one am very happy with Debuchy.
And an apology to Mr Wenger,if you pull off Sanchez,get Khedira/schnerderlin/lars ,throw n a C/B and a goalkeeper I will be ecstatic,not too sure on Remy(sorry Dags) we have Poldolski, (fear he will be sold) an under rated player and should be used more often.

09 Jul 2014 18:44:27
Gooners, how is our 25 man squad list looking and what impact will any incoming transfers have on it since moat of us agree that we could beef up our assault on trophies next year with atleast 5 players (ST, RB, DM, CB/LW &GK? Will we have to sell before we can buy not because of finances but to accommodate them in the list?

We may not need to offload players from the 25 squad list before bringing in all the rumoured (5 players?) since Bendtnr, Sagna Fabianski & Kim Kallstrom were released from the 25 man squad anyway & thier place could be taken up by Sanchez, Debuchy, new GK & Bender.

That means filling one space in the 25 man squad which we didn't fill last year but since last season's transfer window when we were also trying to get Demba Ba in addition to the Ozil acquisition we still hadn't bought a striker even in the Jan window after, Kallstrom surely can't have used up our striker slot?

GK: Szcz
DF: Per, Kos, Vermaelen, Jenks, Gibbs, Monreal
MF: Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wilshere, Ox, Rosicky, Arteta, Flamini
FWD: Giroud, Walcott, Podolski, Campbell

So that's 19. So we have room for 6 more. That's with out Vermaelen, Cazorla and Podolski going.

We could easily buy 7/8 players this summer and still be fine.

Dont forget Diaby. he's like a new signing :D

Alexis Sanchez and Debuchy. all add up to 22. Then we look like getting a DM and we need a GK which is 24

Podolski/Vermaelan/Cazorla/Arteta all chance of going I feel really hope its not Cazorla as he is magic and Podolski because he such a happy dude.

We in fine shape and have younger players Akpom/Bellerin/Eisfeld/Zelalem/Gnabry.who could all be looking to make head way into 1st team during pre season

Was just wondering, are the youths included in the list of the 25 man squad? if so then I expect gnabry and zelalem to be included

{Ed025's Note - not at present waq..

I forgot Jenkinson :) I know he is a life long gooner and all but I'm not sure he's got it

I know I am the same as most on here in that we have been brainwashed into thinking that because we're actually looking at making some decent signings we're are defiantly going to have to let someone go, such as Arteta, Pod or Santi to pay for it. Well I say not any more. Ok so Pod or Arteta may become expensive squad players, but who cares, it's not my job to worry about money, that's the board. Also it's not my job to keep everyone happy, that's Wengers. All I want is for us to have the strongest possible team out playing in every game. So I say enough, we're a big club who needs a big and strong squad, and our squad is stronger including the players I have mentioned. So for me we get new signings and keep the current players. As Harry Hill would say, I want nanna AND toast.

{Ed025's Note - nothing wrong with that EG, in fact i agree with all that mate..

Totally agree EG! We need to add quality to the squad and keep the majority of the current crop. Not sell them. As my post says above we can easily buy 7/8 no problem with out having to worry about.

09 Jul 2014 23:21:46
My feelings exactly Epping

Very good point EG, we can't be selling off any important players starting 11 or squad

09 Jul 2014 17:50:13
Hope the rumours about Bernard are not true, overrated player that personally I don't think will do well in the premier league

09 Jul 2014 18:40:24
agree

09 Jul 2014 23:23:10
100% batch

Just read the rumour and I honestly felt sad.

09 Jul 2014 14:29:47
Well there goes any hope for me of us ever signing Lukaku

"No dissrespect to Arsenal who is also a big club but I don't understand why ozil has left real madrid. I guess will never know. "

Doubt those are the words of a man who'd be keen to join us. Let him rot with the spurs if that's the case.

The Latest waste of talent if it goes that way.

09 Jul 2014 15:46:43
Can't beleive you want the guy, over rated lump with attitude, did nothing much for Everton whose fans weren't that keen, did not a lot for Belgium and you want a Mourinho cast off.

Would love you to waste money on him like United and PSG have with Mata and Luiz but your boss won't go near him.

Think far to many people see a player, someone refers to him as the next best thing or a beast or the new Drogba when in reallity he is none of those things.

He won't be with us much longer so fill your boots.

What gets me is how completely unprofessional the comments are.

He has no cause to be commenting on a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with him.

Particularly since he didn't exactly shine at this world cup except in a cameo against an already knackered US team.

I don't know maybe he's trying to endear himself to Chelsea fans as he expects to stay at Stamford bridge next season?

I hope Germany win the world cup so Ozil can send him a nice picture of his medal.

If he was that good chelski would keep him, ask yourselves if he isn't good enough for them why is he good enough for us.

Great avatar Steve :-) love it

09 Jul 2014 20:41:42
I would hardly say utd wasted 40m on Mata! Lol come on Marcellus mate mata is an excellent player and I find it somewhat sad how u quickly turn on him and scrap him simply because he left your club :-)

Im not suggesting Chelsea wanted to keep him and u made us pay top dollar for a top player, he simply didn't fit mour's tatics hence why you have gone more for the strong players this window than the skillful technical type, because it ain't your type of play! Your a 1-0 type of team ;-)

{Ed025's Note - how come a utd fan is arguing with a chelsea fan on the arsenal page?, i dont mind visitors guys...but come on!!..

They are behaving exactly like their clubs ed25

They'll attack us, belittle us, dismiss us as little threat. but they are always keeping a sneaky eye on what we're doing ;)

{Ed025's Note - good analysis that UG, i think they are afraid of the gooners, and i say..be afraid....be very afraid!

09 Jul 2014 21:23:03
Lol ed dnt u worry ill be ovee on the Everton page soon to have it out with a few spurs soon!

{Ed025's Note - im sure the everton guys will welcome you with open arms chris.. :)

09 Jul 2014 23:27:48
Marcellus Wallace? Was the gimp particularly rough tonight?

I sense your a bit agitated.

09 Jul 2014 13:35:41
Ed any truth in the runours regarding Manu getting Vidal for around 32mil? I know you have no interest in discussing money, but any chance you can confirm if a bid in that region could buy him?
Reason I'm asking is surely at that price arsenal should get involved, after pogba the next best CM available IMO.
Also are bayern still looking to sell schweinstieger, if they ever were? Another good option. Not that by me saying it arsenal go and enquire, just curious.
Thank a much

{Ed027's Note - Juve would want a big offer for either Pogba or Vidal. I doubt Bastian will be leaving Bayern any time soon, especially with Kroos on his way to Madrid

09 Jul 2014 11:27:20
Sanchez officially an Arsenal player. Look at his Facebook page!

Lol that's a fan page

09 Jul 2014 09:58:51
Don't know about you guys and girls but I would take the Spyder over either Bender or Khedira all day he is a very good player and is more of sit and hold DMF I think the German lads are a lot more adventurous when we have all the adventure we need in Rambo and Ozil what we need is not to let in 5 or more goals in multiple big games next season!

For me it's Kedhira > Bender > Spyder

09 Jul 2014 08:08:36
Mesut will be waking up this morning pinching himself and saying damn that was goooood! To you sir I tip cap and to the rest of ze Germans well played! Great example of team play

Totally agree PL2. Ozil played very well. He delivers so many killer passes

09 Jul 2014 00:38:07
Who do you think we will get or who do you prefer? I've heard Arsenal have agreed a deal for Lars Bender and others say Schneiderlin, Plus we are in for Khedira. Personally I want to see us sign Khedira.
Any truth in the deals for a DM?

I think if Bender was fit he would have played for German team ahead of Khedira. Plus he is younger and cheaper than Sami. Still both of them are great players and TBH I will be happy with any of the there players we are linked with.

I'd prefer either of the Germans. Think aussie is right if Bender was fit he would have been in the squad and a starter. Bender and khedira are probably the future pairing for Germany as Schweinsteiger won't go on forever.
Khedira lady night in the first 45 was awesome. Showed what he is capable of.
Both would cost 20+ mill but would prove good value for money.

08 Jul 2014 23:32:07
Long time Lurker, First time Poster!

Okay, enjoying the world cup in general! Feel abit sorry for Brazil, but hey maybe they should just get better at footie. Harsh.

Im going to be simple here:

Debuchy - Is fine, not ecstatic/not upset
Khedira - never will and never have liked him, hope he doesn't come/isnt coming. Just how I feel
Schneiderlin/Lars - interested in both, but we will see, I ain't in the know so yeah.
Sanchez - potentially a great signing personally (due to world cup watching) and hoping for this. don't rate him much for barcelona though (yes I watch spanish league games)

another note: I feel sorry for ozil, he just seems. meh/so so all the time just now. But I really want him to be awesome again.

Generally I really hope Arsenal make good on signings, keep getting rid of all the flak that is clogging up wages and just being a joke!

Only thing ill sign off on is maybe Hello Eds/Everyone, questions are any clearing up on anything I've said, legitimate interest in strikers cleared up, I read up on transfer news every damn day pretty much. and anymore big signing information would be graaaand but ill live if not! :D

Anywho don't wanna spam too much, got lots to say or discuss about. but ill wait

Cheers in advance eds/everyone :)!

{Ed025's Note - welcome aboard revonix, but i think you have got khedira all wrong there mate, the guy is quality..

08 Jul 2014 23:55:02
Ed's,

Where's 025's avatar?.

Is it going to be a pic of the Southern Comfort guy?

{Ed007's Note - It'll be Christmas before he susses out how to set it up! He went out to get a new computer last week and came home with a Commodore-64.}

09 Jul 2014 00:16:16
Hehe

I heard he upgraded his car last week and bought a Sinclair C5.

{Ed025's Note - bloody cheek.. :)

09 Jul 2014 01:18:03
He still uses a black and white tv:)

{Ed007's Note - He can remember when Gandalf only had a goatee!}

Hahah. when gandalf had a goatee. hahah