Arsenal Banter Archive June 09 2014

09 Jun 2014 21:35:27
Can't help but think if we intend on signing greizman we had better get a deal in place quick. At his age, and a good world cup, he looks sharp too, his price could double

See Real Sociadad are reported to want to buy out Carlos Velas buy back clause for £8m + to stop us buying him for 3.5m. They obviously have a very good, larger offer for Velaon the table. Surely if we are interested in Griezmann then this should help us to sign him.

09 Jun 2014 18:33:22
Bob was in trouble. He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was
really pissed.

She told him "Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the
driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in 6 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE!"

The next morning he got up early and left for work. When his wife woke
up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box
gift-wrapped in the middle of the driveway.

Confused, the wife put on her robe and ran out to the driveway, brought
the box back in the house.

She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.

Bob has been missing since Friday.

09 Jun 2014 20:02:15
My title as this sites 'undisputed king of the jokes' remains intact.

Thanks Rue, lol.

09 Jun 2014 22:02:16
Talk about fat My wife got on one of those 'I Speak Your Weight' scales the other day. She jumped on and the scales said
"One at a time please"

Me and the wife were watching crime watch the other night and they showed a photofit of a man they were looking for and said "HAVE YOU SEEN THIS MAN? "
My wife rang up and said no, I've never seen him before

08 Jun 2014 19:34:23
ED002, I understand I'll probably get shot down for asking, but when you wrote your list on Arsenal's striker transfer targets, you said you think Reus will very likely be off to Barcelona. Are there anymore big "surefire" deals that aren't really known about yet? Or any big transfers which look EXTREMELY likely?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, how are you lot "ITK", if you will.

{Ed002's Note - It is tough to say anything is "surefire", but Barcelona believe that Reus will join them. In the same way as Chelsea are of the opinion that Diego Costa will join. I know only a little about the other Eds so I cannot answer that question.}

Ed is the first rule of Ed club that you never talk to other Ed's about Ed club?

{Ed002's Note - You have lost me there.}

09 Jun 2014 19:55:14
Lol Ed,

It's a line from a film called fight club starring Brad Pitt.

{Ed002's Note - I have never heard of it. Sorry.}

Sorry Ed it was a silly joke based on the film Fight Club where the first rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club.
I guess you had to know the film :-( sorry about that and please pass my apologies on to the many wife's

{Ed002's Note - I am not to hip to films with the word "fight" in the title. There are not "many" wives, just "some".}

Fantastic gunner62, laughed hard at that

Ed is it true you are actually the stigg?

{Ed002's Note - I was at the race when Perry had the "accident".}

Some say he once wrestled 2 crocodiles while changing the oil non a jumbo jet, also it's been said he sleeps on a mattress made of moon rock! All we know is he's Ed002

09 Jun 2014 13:44:26
Would you be dissapointed if we bought Draxler as our superstar striker? I know there was rumours last window that Wenger wanted to change him in to a striker.

From what I have seen of him. no. he looks the full package.

Ed has said that we are not longer looking at Draxler.

Yes I know they say that and sorry to say it but they are not always right. Who knows what is going on in this brilliant mind of Wenger.

Wenger and you play too much of football manager, draxler will end up at bayern and that's for sure.

09 Jun 2014 18:40:27
We had our chance to sign him in January but, for whatever reason, maybe his injury, we didn't sign him

That ship has sailed along time ago.

As others said, Ed and other media sources are adamant the deal is dead (even though the same sources were adamant the deal was done in Jan). But I would LOVE the see Hazard as our striker. Going to be one the best players in the world, very soon, no matter what position he settles into.

{Ed018's Note - lets just assume you meant Draxler and not Hazard}

Oh yes sorry! Was thinking about Hazard because if we don't sign DRAXLER it will be exactly the same as when we missed out Hazard. Turns into a world class player once another club snaps him up.
Apologies.

09 Jun 2014 12:08:28
Question for the eds or again anyone in the know. How exactly do clubs go about putting a value on a player? Do they literally just pick a number based on how much of his contract is left and market trends or is there some sort of actual maths involved?

As far as I'm aware (I'm aware of very little on this subject) there's a company or stock or financial market or something that works 'official' values of a player (it may even be insurance or something, the agent plays a part on his 'official' value, but the club value is different) but that's rarely how it works.

For example, transfermarkt (I know it's not the 'official' valuing one, but I forget it) states Aaron Ramsey is worth £17, 600,000 or £17.6m.

If someone offered us that right now, would you take it?
Of course not.

A club usually works out the value of a player depending on his age, talent, contract length remaining and position at the club.

Ramsey for us is a key player.
I'd dare say I'd personally not even entertain less than £40m for him.

Now let's say for arguments sake Ramsey only has 1 year left on his deal and came to the club saying he's not going to sign a new deal for all the tea in china.

Either you keep him for a season and see him go free, or you sell him to make money whilst you can.

That £40m offer I was saying would be needed to even think about it, now drops to about £17-20m because no club will pay full value when they can pay not at all and use the money saved to offer him a bigger contract anyway.
However, if like that Dutch lad, you have multiple clubs after you when you're going to leave, the club can play that a little to get more money for selling you, even if you only have one year left.


Same if Ramsey was still in this current form, but he's 31.
He's still a key player, but nobody's paying £40m for a 31 year old.
His value would probably be less than half that.

Wenger did well to get £20m for that Dutch bloke IMO

I may of gone off topic, I probably missed a LOT of key info and was quite possibly wrong on everything, but that's how I understand the general gist of it.

09 Jun 2014 18:34:55
They go on the web to
'We Buy Any Player'
You put in the players details, age games played including internationals, injuries etc and the club gets made an offer. If you accept the offer a rep pops round pays the club and takes the player with him. Hope that helps :)

09 Jun 2014 20:04:06
Lol Golds.

{Ed002's Note - I have found out recently that "lol" does not mean "lots of love". Did you know that Dags?}

09 Jun 2014 21:25:14
Lol Ed,

I always imply it as 'laugh out loud".

But I do use it a lot.

{Ed002's Note - That is not what people have been thinking man.}

09 Jun 2014 23:00:35
You could be right Ed.

09 Jun 2014 08:46:29
Calum chambers as Jenks understudy?
I'd be happy with that but I'm pro Jenks and think if not now then when will he get his chance

I think that'd work well. I would get a player/coach right back in there mid 30's to coach the two

09 Jun 2014 11:41:32
Completely agree. He has improved with every game I've seen him play. Not much point signing him when we did, if we weren't going to give him a go when Sagna left. You'd think he'd be pretty unhappy if we brought a player in over him, and it would only be fair, IMO, to let him move on to find first team chances if we did.

09 Jun 2014 13:01:27
Jenk's'll never leave. even if he was 5th choice. Carl's a GOONER

I agree with Outback. what's the point of having Jenks as Sagna's understudy for two years if we don't now promote him.I Don't agree with signing a player the same age as Jenks (IE Aurier) as ultimately only 1 can play regularly, and Jenks would be devastated if he now wasn't given his chance surely? Much better to sign either a young back up or a very experienced. but not in the middle.

My opinion is that Wenger would have done his utmost to keep Sagna if he thought Jenks was'nt ready for the starting place.

Therefore I calculate that x -z * w squared= . what was I saying again.

09 Jun 2014 00:11:36
France best Jamaica in a friendly.

Benzema, Giroud and Griezman scored 2 goals each.

Hmmm I wonder.

What about Remy, Dags?

Matuidi scored twice. Giroud only once mate.

Benzema played great alongside Giroud even thou he played from th wing. Interestin because we also like playin wit one cf & two wingers.

09 Jun 2014 09:10:30
G95, Remy was having a well deserved rest, lol.

You are correct Aussie, thanks mate.

I would be happy with Remy as a cheaper option as long as we got Griezmann. Griezmmann and benzema would be a bonus