Arsenal Banter Archive May 09 2013
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09 May 2013 23:02:43
I know the whole Rooney rumours are rubbish, but I wouldn't take him anyway.
I'd rather not buy uniteds players, 4 years ago I wouldve said yes, but now he's past it and if we want to be better than united, buying their scraps is not the way to do so.
Nick.
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Ridiculous to say Rooney is past it, he has been unhappy for a couple seasons and players get reenergised with a transfer when they are in happy, what if we and taken the same attitude with RVP at 26-27? I'd take him in a heart beat, he can destroy teams and infact he is exacttly the type of player we are missing.
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Rooney is and will always be a world class player all that's happened to him is that he has lost his drive at utd amd wants a new challenge.
I would have him at arsenal anytime because he is world class and a natural born fighter and winner which is qhat we need.
We are always saying we need to replace rvp and we need a world class striker but when they become available like rooney you all say crap about them
Ali
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100% agree with you Ali. I'd love to see Rooney next season although I can see him going to Real Madrid in exchange for a Ronaldo come back. Just out of curiosity, would we be able to match his wage demands anyway?
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Funny how all of you are defending player just because he is English. personally I think that Rooney is rubbish. honestly, he gets away with lots of the stuff during the games (swearing at referees etc) scored some nice goals but overrated sooo much. don't want to see that ugly guy in Arsenal shirt
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Im not defending him because he is English, he needs no defence as he is clearly one of the best players around! wathc the clubs that will go for him if he becomes available, Madrid, Bayern Barca will all consider him as will City Arsenal etc, nobody would pass up the chance to sign him i'm sure of it.
Ive never been his biggest fan but his talent is undeniable, and I would rather he was in my squad than one I was playing against.
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He swears at refs, he's ugly. Unnamed poster I'd hate to see what you would say about Martin Keown!
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09 May 2013 19:20:34
Just think, if the spurs only get a draw against stoke. We'de only need to beat wigan and we can start celebrating St totteringham's day. ( it seems to be getting later and later every year. )
Bearing in mind the sh#t season stoke have had. How many times have stoke lost at home in 18 games.
A. 4
They ain't no mugs. I just don't want it to go to the last game. The thought of all the games going on at the same time, wth soccer Saturday darting between them all. I'm just going to puke my ring up I know it.
So all together now. SWING LOW! SWEET CHARIOT!
Flybo
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09 May 2013 19:17:43
Rooney rumours are nonsense. I doubt he will even leave United this year let alone join us.
Detroit Gooner
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Rooney is Michael Owen.
Decline has begun. Weight and injury issues will persist now.
He's the next Torres. Expectations will shackle him wherever he goes.
I do believe his run at United is over.
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Again ridiculous
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Podolski is a better footballer than Rooney.
Take the Pro-British specs off and realize Rooney always won with better players at his side. Ronaldo and now RVP
I'm sorry, at the international stage where individual brilliance matters, where has Rooney been? How many sub par tournaments does he need to have until his "cemented" place is questioned, as it ought to be.
SAF has rarely if ever been wrong about a player, and in crunch time, Rooney was not in the starting lineup
If you want to spend 20m, there are far better options
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Take your arsenal glasses off US as podolski is not a better footballer.
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Poldi has 100 plus caps for Germany. Rooney would be nowhere near
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Mertersacker has 100+ caps. His consistency in the last 2 years wouldn't back that fact up!
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10 May 2013 16:47:17
Saying Podolski is better than Rooney is ridiculous. Rooney has had afew seasons where he's scored 30+ goals and even when he's not been at his best he's still been better than anything we have atm upfront.
I would like a player if his ability but not him in particular. Rooney in an Arsenal shirt? Never going to happen.
Detroit Gooner
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Poldi has 20 more caps than BFG, think about that
Rooney has less caps than BFG and England is a junior team compared to Germany. Argue with me on this one.
Rooney has only ever scored more than 20 league goals twice
You continue elevating Rooney's status and the rest of us will continue not being worried when England lines him up to lead the line
I'm not even joking, either you're deluded or want to believe something that isn't there
Even SAF saw he was past it, but our fans are willing to accept their scraps
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10 May 2013 18:11:47
He hasn't done well for England, but Podolski hadn't exactly set the world on fire for Germany. I think Podolski I'd a great player. But Rooney is better. More caps doesn't really prove anything. Mertesacker has more caps than Terry at younger age. But I know who I would rather have.
Rooney may be past his peak. However you could argue the reason he hasn't been playing at best is because he's playing CF/CAM rather than ST. He plays best there and bangs them in for fun.
Detroit Gooner
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Podolski was never mentioned in the same breath as messi and ronaldo podolski never scored in the champions league final
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09 May 2013 18:16:17
Arsenal and Chelsea have joined the scramble to sign Wayne Rooney this summer, a web site has learned.
Ed, how do you rate this rumour? Personally, I can't see it happening. {Ed027's Note - Nope don't rate any Rooney news until Utd say he's leaving
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If its from a certain football website, in the same article it says the transfer window opens in 11 days time! That should show how reliable that source is!
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^^^Window does open in this country when the last game has been played its Europe that is June
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No the window in this country don't open after the last game of the season it opens on the 1st of july
Ali
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Was und the impression the window opens between July 1st and August 31st.
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English clubs can do transfers between each other when the last competative game has been played. But we cannot do transfers to/from europe etc until 1st July.
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^ what he said
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09 May 2013 17:44:06
Is there any truth in the rumours on a web site. co. uk that we are in for Wayne Rooney? If there is any truth in it we should make a move! Anyone else got any real possible deals to share?
Two Barrels
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09 May 2013 18:27:12
If we win our next 2 games we are in for Robert Lewandowski. Only stumbling block being wages. Dortmund don't want to sell another star to Bayern and Man United look less than appealing atm.
The main players are chelsea, Man City and The Arsenal.
We are definately in the mix.
Chances of pulling it off are more likely than other seasons. His asking price will be 15-25 mil due to being in last year of contract. Players like cavani falcao suarez and rooney are on the market this summer aswell so bigger teams have bigger fish to fry.
Everyone say a prayer.
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He will be sold for at least 25m. RVP was sold for 24m aged 28. Lewendowski is 24 and had consistent injury free seasons at Dortmund.
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Pretty sure suarez and Rooney are not for sale! However Higuain is also available this summer.
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Personally I think if we could get lewandowski for 25 million we should jump at the chance- we would then have fantastic striking options and backup.
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09 May 2013 18:07:50
According to a web site where looking for two marquee forward signings. Jovetic where are in advanced talks with and Edin Dzeko and Robert Lewandowski are two other strikers high on our list. Rooney is a new player that has become available and as 'goal' reports it is a scramble between Arsenal and Chelsea to sign him.
For all those questioning his wage demand or fee.
Arsenal and Chelsea have joined the scramble to sign Wayne Rooney this summer, a web site has learned.
The striker's wage demands would appear to price Arsenal out of the equation, but Thierry Henry was paid the equivalent of £200,000-a-week in the final year of his first spell at the club and the Gunners will be loosening the purse strings this summer to attract A-list talent outside of their tight wage structure.
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09 May 2013 17:22:53
So with Rooney unwilling to work under moyes (or so we're told)
who would be willing to take him on if A)his wages were reasonable (im talking 80k wage cut from his 200k p/w) and b)we got him for £25mill ;thanks to RVP deal and fergie still being at utd.
Personally I've always seen rooney as a poor mans ibrahimovich, strong and a good eye for goal. but doesn't suit our team at all. less he is playing DM!
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Said it yourself, doesn't suit our team
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09 May 2013 17:20:01
this rumour about wenger being indispute with the board over a player is nonsense. The Arsenal board would not dare question wenger over a player, and Arsene is the sort of manager that if he was being undermined he would resign. Wenger picks the players and sells them, I don't think anyone on the board has a say on players that's Arsene s job. The only thing I hope is that we make some decent signings in the summer. would love Rooney, but I just can't see it some how. As For Wengers successor I hope it's Jurgen Klopp classy manager.
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09 May 2013 16:57:04
I know people are talking about Rooney but how about Javier Hernandez? I will prefer him to Jovetic as he will be cheaper and as good if not better.
And we can use the money saved towards a world class forward. In my opinion Higuain will be best for us, then we will have some strike force!
Opinions please!
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09 May 2013 15:16:54
According to news, Rooney doesn't want to work under Moyes and wants a transfer. Apparently we're interested in taking him. Eds or anyone know if there's truth in this? {Ed027's Note - Doubt it, don't take any notice of it
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09 May 2013 14:17:34
Hey edd's,
Any news on jesus navas? I remember some people last year on the forums saying he had some troubles with home sickness so he wouldn't leave spain, but he has recently came out saying he might have to leave sevilla, and he is the type of quality out and out winger arsenal could use.
Thanks
Podolskiing {Ed027's Note - Jesus cleared up the home sickness business years ago, he's travelled with Spain since, I still doubt he would leave the Country
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09 May 2013 14:22:49
Cesc adler wanyama who can play both centre half and dcm and jovetic perfect summer and we can deflate the chocking cockerals who will lose monkeyboy bale
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That would be an awesome summer so ain't going to happen.
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Replace cesc with a CB and that's is realistic.
SM1996
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Instead of Cesc, maybe someone like Micah Richards who can play both centre half and right back.
Lwi
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Choking cockerel here, like us you wish for some decent players coming in, but Bale won't be leaving!
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I hear from a press source, man u will announce bale in june. moyle's first signing. sorry! good player but no one outside the big 3 (man u barca real)could hold him to his contract. same source told me about rvp so must be true!
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09 May 2013 13:05:25
Just a thought but anybody think it might be worth a question to united about rooney if he wants to leave, would rather him with experience of prem and adding to our british core, rather than jovetic?
probably won't happen but I wouldn't look past buying british or at least within from the prem for our summer signings?
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I'd take Rooney I think (just)
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We need to realise that if UTD let a player leave it is usually because they are not good enough for them, so why would we want their cast offs?
Plus he is on 200k per week +
Silvestre was a good example, what a waste of wages!
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Tevez, de Rossi, piqué? Were they not good enough? Rooney only has 2 yrs left if they sit on him to long hell go for free or dirt cheap
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De Rossi? You mean Pogba?
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No, I think he means Rossi
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No I meant Rossi the striker
Dandan
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Add C Ronaldo to that list maybe?!
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09 May 2013 09:50:26
Hi Eds
I sent in a post about two days back. Never appeared here. Just wanted to find out if there was anything wrong with the post so that I do not make similar mistakes in future.
Great wok Eds. I love the page
Thanx
Rue1025 {Ed029's Note - Look on the teams page.}
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09 May 2013 09:43:11
If we beat Wigan it will mean that Newcastle are safe, so they will have nothing to play for when we play them.
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Lol. I don't think that's the right way to look at it. Even if they are out of the relegation zone, I don't think they will just bend over for us
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Depends on Newcastle result on this weekend. If Newcastle loose this weekend and we beat them on the last day and Wigan wins on the last day, Newcastle can go down because of their inferior goal difference.
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09 May 2013 09:19:37
Its all in our own hands now again. I hope the team can see the job out and win both game nd finish ahead of the spuds.
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What if we do not get CL next season, it being AWs last year of contract, will the board do anything this year and give a new manager the chance to get us back in the CL for 2014 season, or will it be same old story of no looking forward, what team will AW leave us with if he sees his contract out, will it be the way Bayen and Man U have gone, and put a new man in with time and money plus a whole pre season to prepare, or will it be another contrick sorry contract for AW. RED-DER
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09 May 2013 21:33:14
I think we have come to an end of an era in terms of finances regarding emirates payments (I'm aware it won't be paid off til 2031) and sponsorship. If we really do have new deals with Puma and Fly Emirates totalling £320m then it could go either way.
Wenger could rebuild for a new era of dominance with Wilshere, Ramsey, Ox etc as the core. Or The board will be happy with all this new money and won't need Wenger to run the club as a business anymore. New manager given time, investment etc. I am very much pro Wenger and hope he stays until he has to be carried out.
Detroit Gooner
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09 May 2013 09:06:16
alex ferguson has gone, as a leeds fan I would like to point a few things out. I believe arsenal are the only club to build a team to win the prem without spending crazy money on transfers and wages. Blackburn took spending to a new level breaking the british transfer record for shearer with jack walkers millions, chelski have abromovich, man city have the arabs and no one else has won it. if ferguson could not have brought in the best players available he should have been shot unless they went to mcfc or Chelski. nasri and van persie have both left arsenal for bigger wages and probably because in the future their new clubs will attract better players than arsenal because of these clubs crazy wage structures. I believe man u contest no more than 8 even contests a year. their wages are on a different level to other teams so obviously the players are. the media love ferguson so will never point out it hasn't been a level playing field for most of his tenure. leeds fans loved coming to arsenal in the fa cup, hopefully we will be playing you in the prem soon, but please don't hold your breath.
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Life is never fair mate. you can go on and on about how things are always stacked up against you. I don't like man utd, but i'll give them their due.
saying that it was inevitable the team of pensioners came to an end so will their era.
no more bias referee decisions. Manchester United will not be aware of this new era of fair play. watch how they bury moyes just cause he could not smooth talk the refs.
google an article from tv about fergie time, over a season, it averaged to 79 secs a game extra. in that same season, united won 6 games in those 79 fictional secs. and went on to lose on GD. if it was not for those fictional minutes, deduct 18 points and you will see where they actually stood.
liverpool got the second highest with 59secs extra average. and they won 1 game in all their fictional minutes.
City 50 secs, spurs 25 secs, arsenal 18 sec and chelsea had time taken away with -31 secs.
but of all the fictional minutes. united gained 18 points, liverpool 3 points, city 5 points, spurs 4, Arsenal 4.
Courtesy of opta stats for those who want to look at it.
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Like you state although you can't doubt Ferguson's success, with the huge income at Utd's disposal which is near double what other teams have incuding Arsenal/ Chelsea/ Liverpool/ City /Spurs
most managers would have had good success at Utd.
Look at all the record buys Utd have made look at the likes of Ferdinand, Rooney, Ronaldo big bucks on young players that other clubs could not afford the risk on at the time. Utd were also very lucky in the early years to have the likes of Beckham, Scholes, Giggs and the Nevilles to develop all into starts all at the same time. Rarely does it happen that you get soo many young players develop at such a rate at the same time.
Its the same as in Spain were Barca and Real Madrid dominate because of their financial power other teams do not really get a look in.
When the PL started when they porned themselves all over the globe backed by the PL to get to the global commercial brand power they have today. Utd were the Premier Leagues golden apple which helped make them both rich.
No doubt all clubs have enjoyed increased Tv revenue from the PL product but it is Manchester United that the PL has benefitted the most by making them into the global brand they are today.
Yes Utd were a big club before the PL but only really in the UK not globally like they are now. Utd have cornered the market in particular the far east and its hard for any other team to get a look to increase commercial revenue in these markets.
Chelsea and City can only compete by having the secuirty if rich owners that will cover the huge losses they make. Arsenal have done very well in my book to challange Utd when you compare the incomes of each club.
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09 May 2013 01:35:02
At least we don't have to see SAF chew his gum anymore. haha was I the only one bothered by the way he chewed his gum? :P
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No you weren't, it's chavvy no matter what you do
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Not as bad as Sam Allerdyce, but kind of irritating none the less.
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Don't worry if he's sat in a crain 100 ft over old trafford the cameras would find him chewing like a cow chews its cud
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09 May 2013 00:25:40
if we end up selling verminator and sagna who would take a punt on micah richards if we could land him on the cheap? think he is an arsenal supporter aswell!
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He ain't played that much though, has he? cpt. Jenko better optin than him
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If he stayed fit Richards would be perfect. Jenkinson is good but not ready. Ideally he should have gone on loan when we first signed him but injuries prevented that. We would continue to learn from someone like Richards who has European and international experience. Plus Richards could cover at CB.
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I agree that Richards is the sort of squad player we could do with.
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My thoughts exactly great right back who can cover centre back and dmf if needed!
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09 May 2013 00:23:21
Maybe with SAF retiring (what a career, legend) Wenger can also think of retiring and making way for some one else. This scrapping for a CL spot each year is not fun at all.
There are plenty options out there. it will be a brave new world.
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Your top 3 then. let's go! you ain't part of the tripple A's are you?
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Arsene should not retire just yet. The stadium cost millions to built. Even though it is not a plus for the fans, I think it was a crucial investment to make us competetive on the market from here on. Now that we have been promised good signings, Arsene Wenger will show us why they call him Le Prof. Don't get me wrong, it has been a disappointing phase. But it will prove to have been a critical phase of laying down a good foundation
Gunners for life
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Just my two cents, but with SAF now stating his retirement, could Mourinho now be his replacement, bringing Ronaldo along with him? Or is Moyes a dead certain to take the reigns.
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Nothing is dead-certain in football until its announced officially. but bookies, papers and pundits alike seem to all suggest the same rotations. Moyes to be next Utd manager, with Martinez taking over Everton. Mourinho is destined to return to Chelsea with either Rafa B or Ancellotti tipped to head Madrid.
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Klopp
Michael Laudrup
Dragan Stojkovic
Joachim Low
Moyes (oh no, no longer available)
Pep (oh no, no longer available)
Carlo Ancelotti
Didier Deschamps
Outside candidates
Dennis Bergkamp
Steve Bould
You might try to nit pick on this list, but the big picture fact is that there are options.
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08 May 2013 22:43:17
I get so dissapointed when I see all these arsenal-supporter listing up all the players we "need" at the club. Saying we need to sign many class players this summer is stupid, you haven't understood our situation at all. What we need is a 2 or 3 top class players. Not 5-6 mediocre players.
Loic Remy, do we need a pacy striker when we got walcott who is established in the team?
Do we need a centre back when we have a realy good back four (guys, we can afford to bench TV5)
Do we realy need a GK when we have two great goalies competing for the nr1 spot in Fab and Sczezney?
If we have 70m, wouldn't you rather have us spend it on let us say two great players for 35m each, and keeping out best players?
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Well said, DM and a creative spark is what we need. We should try to get top drawer.
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Recon we defo need a golie to replace Fabianski who is out of contract and not that good! would prefer Tim Weise to compete with Schez.
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"Saying we need to sign many class players this summer is stupid, you haven't understood our situation at all. What we need is a 2 or 3 top class players" What are you talkin' about? Your startin and finishin your own arguments. We need a goalie to give Sir'Szczesny sum competition. he's became too comfortable.
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What a silly post. You slag off people who say we "need" the sign many class player and then say we "need" to sign top class players. doesn't make sense. I agree though 2 or 3 really good players is better than 5 average ones but I think pretty much everyone here agrees with that.
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08 May 2013 22:22:35
Glad it was a draw we can get 3rd 4th is ours.
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