Arsenal Banter Archive May 09 2017

 

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09 May 2017 18:17:46
We could spend 100/ 200 mill this summer but unless Arsene changes his methods radically or leaves altogether than it will be same old same old.

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09 May 2017 19:05:29
It's all a little crazy mate, I've mentioned it before, when we had that big league game against City and sat back and counter attacked and beat them, we learnt how to have less than the obligatory 70% possession and still win.

We blew away United with great attacking football last season and we did the same to Chelsea this season, we've shown that this 3 at the back can work. We've won big games in Europe when we needed too.

But why doesn't he combine all these things over a season and make it happen?

The players and ingredients are there. I think we are all coming to the conclusion what isn't.

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09 May 2017 15:49:30
Now anyone that sees me post on here know I want a change but at the same time still back arsene and don't believe that he is totally to blame. This being said I think it was 62 on here that said he doesn't help himself with what he says. Today has proven you're correct again. Coming out saying he has no idea what a director of football does and how we won't get one if he is manager. I appreciate it's what he believes in but that again shows his reluctance to change and also get in touch with the modern game. It really concerns me that we won't have much change in the player department if he remains. It just seems the same old thing.

Why is he just unwilling to change things or freshen up behind closed doors.
Lastly don't get me started on him saying he wants Perez to stay. Why!?

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09 May 2017 17:11:05
D16 I've been a long long time supporter of Wenger and he too frustrates the life out of me with the things he comes out with but then most managers talk a load of bow locks, Mourinho being the master.

Trouble is for Wenger is that isn't helping his cause, I really don't want to know that he looked at Kante before he went to Leicester or he spoke with Mbappe when he could have bought him either but didn't.

I'm sick of being linked with a player that Wenger doesn't buy for him to then go on to be immense as does his transfer fee then we have zero chance of signing him.

That aside D16 I'm going to ask after your last sentence where you ask why is he unwilling to change, what makes you still back him?

To me he's our manager and that's really as far as it goes, it's pointless now backing him hoping for change because I hate to say it but it's not going to happen.

Whilst we have spiralled into oblivion after demolishing Chelsea, they have gone on to all but win the league.

There have been so many false dawns and this latest 3 at the back is another. We have to have a new manager, new impetus, new momentum and some back bone in the squad.

Sadly Wenger can't deliver that and is only now kidding himself that he can which is the worst part of it.

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09 May 2017 18:46:57
Totally agree with Kante comment Stoner mate, Arsene used to be brilliant at finding players out of nowhere who went on to stars but for years now he just name drops about players who others have spotted signed and turned into stars, Ranaldo Ibra Kante you name them and Arsene will tell you how he spotted then first and was going to sign them but a misunderstanding prevented him doing so.
Why he does it I don't know because far from make him look brilliant it makes his judgement look poor at best and at worst he sounds like a name dropper who is trying to pretend he's better than he is.
Even Harry Kane we released at 12 years old, absolutely no mention of him when he was struggling to make the Spurs bench at best but as soon as he had a couple of excellent seasons under Poch Arsene decides to share with us how furious he was to learn that someone at Arsenal had let Kane go without his knowledge and how angry he was when he found out about it all those years ago, really Arsene? Really?

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09 May 2017 20:22:25
What I find baffling is, I read, why won't wenger do this, why won't he do that, why can't he change, why won't he listen, why does he keep making the same mistakes, why did he not buy this player, why did he buy that player and still its not his fault. Well i'm sorry, he's to long in the tooth and too dictorial to change, he will never change, that's his mantra.

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09 May 2017 21:55:41
What is another manager going to do that's different, I feel it's the board that restricted Wenger all these years no other manager could have done what he did, and I feel the board need to go rather than Wenger, you will all see it if we do have another manager but they won't be able to cope


IN WENGER WE TRUST.

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10 May 2017 01:29:02
I don't see that at all, i'm the total opposite, he's making now a right hash of it and watch us fly when he's gone. Can't come soon enough.

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10 May 2017 07:36:43
Jelfy if wengers hands were tied he would have left a long time ago.

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10 May 2017 17:08:46
Jelfy sanogo is spot on. Anyone else would of left to madrid or psg. let's be honest he's the last of his type the games changed. He loves full control which was only supposed to be temp after dein left. He imo has been stuck in his ways for too long. A new challange for the club and him would be good all round.

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09 May 2017 09:43:12
I have been folowing this site for long now. I decided to be a part and contribute. I really appreciate your works eds. What is ed? editor?

Well, I hail from Nigeria and have watched and supported arsenal since 2008. Am a programmer as well.

For all I know and have seen, arsene wenger is a dictator of his philosophy and as well a fair employer to his players.

Let's be honest, much resources has been wasted under his management. He is very stingy and will never reward his players for personal success, giving room for complacency among the players. He has said time and again that he favors team play rather than player glory and dislikes ballon d'or award. The implication is that his team will never have a leader, a star man. He favors average combination.

In fact, arsene wenger will go on to substitute a player who has scored a brace, and who is looking forward to cap it hat trick. It is baffling. It sends a message guys.

Arsene wenger plays it fair and will leave underperforming players happy. Arsene wenger won't want to keep a player above 31 so as to make profit but won't hesitate to take free players at that age that demands low wage. (business guys) . This sends message as well to the players.

All of us here should never blame the likes of cesc, nasri, vp, song. Arsene wenger is very fair to injury players. Nice!

When Steve Bould came, it coincided with the purchase of podolski, giroud. The first three epl games (2 draw, 2-0 win vs Liverpool) saw arsenal become a stable and combative team. The players were attributing it to d training sessions seen out by bould. Then came a rift btwn him and arsene. (Dictatorship) he silenced bould. He keeps muttering words in d bench to bould. Lol.

Tactically, arsene wenger is not sound. He is shambolic. It's a culture to always make changes from 70 mins up. He is not the talking type but the philosophical man who believes there is a reason for every cause even when Ramsey continuously misses his first touches. (He has a philosophical explanation for all match result as well as physiological and mental explanations.

Every now and then he is talking about how he "nearly" signed that / the other player. Wow! He is even responsible for signing players.

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09 May 2017 12:01:13
Good post mate.

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09 May 2017 15:57:16
Good post. Agree with the post.

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09 May 2017 03:28:58
This has all been so comfortable for Chelsea. Must be heaven going for the title if your only rival is Spurs. Seeiously, the only ambition Spurs have ever had is getting above Arseanl. That is why they will never win anything serious.
But we must at least congratulate them that after 21 years they have attained their ultimate goal, for one season.

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09 May 2017 06:33:04
Well commented Melbourne. We even have our very own Toot stalker on this site, who makes the most inane comments, whilst failing to recognise that he could have saved himself so much pain over the years by simply supporting Arsenal. Even in the toots best season in decades, they went out of all three cup competitions before Arsenal and bottled it at the end of the season, as usual. In a poor season by our standards we have still reached the FA Cup final, albeit against Premier League Champions Chelsea and have faint hopes of finishing in the top four, following our win against United and Liverpool faltering at home to Southampton.

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09 May 2017 08:42:50
Spurs only aim is to be above Arsenal?
More self delusion by Arsenal fans here lads!
Wake up smell the coffee because football has changed and has moved on from the invincibles, it's all history now.
We like Leeds Blackpool Forest Preston are the history boys who talk about the past and the days when we were kings.
Football is a constantly evolving thing it doesn't stand still and does and has leave behind those who don't change with it.
Spurs are the new kings of North London and have for two seasons running been the only challenges to eventual champions Leicester and Chelsea.
If you don't like it? Change it!
But denying it won't fool anyone but yourselves.
If it hurts to admit Spurs are a much better team than Arsenal and that they they are on the up while we are in decline then that's a good thing because if your aware of something you can change it but if you remain in denial you will just continue to fade away.
Don't get jealous get better.

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09 May 2017 09:04:45
Well said g62, it's embarrassing.

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09 May 2017 09:13:37
Spurs have the foundations for sure. Well I hope so or there new stadium will crumble lol. No there in good shape there only worry next season tho is wembley. I can't see it being a good thing playing there.

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09 May 2017 10:16:06
Hear hear gunner well said, R. G. is totally deluded and boring he says spurs have bottled it yet we haven't been top of the league once this season. His bragging rights are, we've gone further in every cup competition but have won nothing either and are not even in the top 5 of the league table, he also fails to mention that arsenal have failed to beat, spurs in the league yet again this season.

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09 May 2017 11:56:49
Top post G62.

Spot on. Respect.

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09 May 2017 13:49:03
Yes good post gunner, have I said that before.

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09 May 2017 13:51:23
I respectfully disagree G62, Maybe i am delusional but i refuse to join the Spurs bandwagon. They have won absolutely nothing to date, as a matter of fact the only thing they have is finishing above us for the first time in two decades.

They are young and exciting, play great football and have been better than us over 2 seasons, there's no denying that. We were in the same boat in 07/ 08,a young side that played awesome football and was challenging on all fronts, in fact we went further than this Spurs in the CL reaching the QF. that side was IMO more talented than this Spurs side, yet we ultimately won nothing.

As Henry said, until they win something recognisable there is no power shift. Till then they are still in our shadows, in our worst seasons in 20 years we might still win a trophy, while in their best they walk away with nothing, says all you need to know really.

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09 May 2017 15:50:13
CMP no one on here is talking about a power shift, that isn't what gunners post is about. There isn't any power shift just a dropping of standards by us and an increase by them.

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10 May 2017 05:29:52
Oh dear raver, embarrassing yourself yet again. There are no prizes for finishing in second place and the vultures will be hovering over the home of pain, the lane. Already there is talk of Walker departing and Dier being courted by Man U. Toot chairman Daniel Levy has already stated that there will be no improved salaries to existing deals. Imagine being in Dier's position, where you could go to a big club and expect to double your salary. Alderweirald is also stalling on a deal and in his 29th year, this is possibly the best opportuity to get a long term high salary deal. To bring in replacements and top quality players to bolster the squad, such players will require high salaries. As for Arsenal, we still have the opportunity, albeit difficult, of lifting a trophy and a glimmer of hope of finishing in the top four. The pain, as you well know goes on at the lane. 1961 and waiting. Not only have the too been waiting for a title for 56 years, but they have not won it the century, nor have they ever won the Premier League!

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10 May 2017 14:10:43
So ozil and Sanchez don't want out, the vultures will be hovering over your club if you don't make top 4 boring one. Mind that gap 14 points.

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