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24 Apr 2018 09:13:22
Last night I spoke to a friend of mine who is a professional footballer and a Liverpool fan, who played under Brendan Rodgers and he told me that he is a very good manager. I know he isn't a popular choice amongst Arsenal fans, but he should be considered.
My choices are:
1. Simeone, if he speaks English
2. Vieira
3. Allegri

Other that I would consider:
Rodgers
Ancelotti
Henry
Marco Silva

No No's
Howe
Dyche
Arteta
Low

I admit that I don't know much about the other young German managers that are being touted.

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24 Apr 2018 09:56:21
That's strange because last night I spoke to my missus who has never played any sport professionally and who is an Everton fan because she used to like Kenwyn Jones due to her being half Welsh, I know don't ask, I did try and explain things to her but all that happend was she became convinced Kenwyn must play for both Everton and Sunderland who were his club at the time this all started.
Anyway as you have no doubt gathered she knows zilch about football and she has absolutely no idea who should replace Arsene but all she did say on the subject was NOT Brendan Rogers.

24 Apr 2018 11:38:35
Given the choice of the opinion of a professional player who played under Rogers or your missus. No offence to your missus, but the player gets my vote.

24 Apr 2018 12:19:57
Trust me mate, this is a woman who is very rarely wrong about anything. And you have to admit with a name like Kenwyn Jones you can't totally rule out a Welsh or Everton connection somewhere along the line.
While many many professional footballers and ex professional footballers don't Arf talk some shoe makers at times.
Stewart Robson, Chas Nicholas, Pual Merson to name but a thimble full.

24 Apr 2018 13:28:57
I'd go with gunners missus.

24 Apr 2018 14:08:52
Your a wise man, it took me years to get there but I now accept the woman ain't about a lot at all mate.

Review Of The Day 24th April 2018

24 Apr 2018 07:03:24
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24 Apr 2018 08:04:11
Sanchez for United, Olly for Chelsea, Theo for Everton.
Arsenal old boys on fire at the moment.
Comon Ox keep it going tonight for Liverpool.

Then our new boy Lacasette can do it for us Thursday by getting a Hatrick and Petr Cech can remind us how brilliant he really is by keeping a clean sheet.

24 Apr 2018 08:50:11
Miracles do happen lol.

24 Apr 2018 09:24:54
As long as Kos and Cech get back to the players they were 3 seasons ago and Mustafi suddenly plays the whistle Xhaka becomes the player he was supposed to be before he arrived and Iwobi becomes a player full stop, I think we will be fine Stephen :-)

Joking aside Athletico aren't in great form although I'm sure they will suddenly find their mojo in both legs of this tie, they are not a free scoring outfit at the best of times but can certainly defend well.
The secret for me is do not conceed at home which means we will go there with a real chance in the second leg, hopefully with a lead of some kind but certainly not behind either on actual or away goals.
I really think we can nick this over in Spain in the second leg if we aren't niave in the fist leg.

24 Apr 2018 11:39:47
And Debuchy is playing well in France.
That was one of my concerns, that Wenger wasn't getting the best out of our players.

23 Apr 2018 20:17:20
Congratulations to the Duchess Of Cambridge on the birth of her baby.

The Duke of Cambridge was unavailable for comment, although it doesn't matter too much as The FA have confirmed, after video analysis, that Harry Kane is the Father.

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23 Apr 2018 21:42:30
Harry Kane get in everywhere.

23 Apr 2018 22:34:53
Or Harry Kane scores again.

23 Apr 2018 20:02:19
Hi everyone. Long time reader but wanted to start getting involved. Love the site, great info and some great opinions. Always a good read. Thanks to all the Edd's for your time. Much appreciated!

New chapter in the clubs history and exciting times ahead. Obviously it was time for a change but let's not forget the good times we had curtesy of Mr. Wenger.

Merci Arsene!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, it will take some getting used to watching Arsenal minus Arsene. Will you now called Al?}

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23 Apr 2018 20:18:55
Lol Ed,
Al FC does have a certain ring to it.

{Ed001's Note - PSG will have to change their name to Paris Saint-Arsene.}

23 Apr 2018 22:06:15
Welcome aboard Gary mate!

23 Apr 2018 18:23:50
All you boys talking about different manager's.

It will be carlo Ancelotti or Luis Enrique.

Trust Dags.

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23 Apr 2018 18:32:07
What's new Dags think?

23 Apr 2018 19:07:34
Arsenal want Enrique, but salary is a problem as he wants to be paid more than the highest player, £17m per annum! Ozil's absurdly high salary was and is bound to cause problems. Imagine what Ramsey will ask for! Given the choice of the tow players over a season, Ramsey is a more consistent player.

23 Apr 2018 19:52:15
Yeah, what's happened to New Dags?

I think he just popped in for a quickie and left again.

Bit like Stoner's sex life 😂😂

Only joking Stoner 😉.

23 Apr 2018 20:30:01
Prehaps New Dags only shows up everytime we announce our manager is leaving, if Brendan gets the job New Dags could become a regular.

{Ed001's Note - probably the pressure of living down to the name got to him.}

23 Apr 2018 22:06:35
"Living down" 🤣🤣.

23 Apr 2018 22:19:28
Just goes to show every Dag really does have his day Ed mate :-)

23 Apr 2018 22:53:17
Hello guys🤣. I think Ancelotti will get the job with Henry as assistant, I do feel like that is the best option. What do the Ed’s think of that scenario? Any ed is free to answer.

24 Apr 2018 00:10:19
Dags have you been watching me, I’ve got it down to about 43 secs which is pretty impressive if you ask me. 😉😂.

24 Apr 2018 07:28:48
How many of those 43 seconds include your better half waking up 😂.

24 Apr 2018 08:19:47
Lol @ Stoner and Sanogo 🤣.

24 Apr 2018 09:16:45
Sanogo mate I’m lucky, she’s a heavy sleeper! So none of em. 😂.

23 Apr 2018 18:01:12
Hi, quick non managerial question, if anyone can help. If Liverpool win the cl and finish in top 4 does the fifth place team in England get a cl place or does it go elsewhere?

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23 Apr 2018 18:18:04
Top four.

23 Apr 2018 19:31:57
What happens if the team that wins the europa league has already qualified for the champions league via their own League?
Does runner up in Champions league qualify or no europa league qualifying place at all.

23 Apr 2018 20:12:46
Gunner you will have to ask jeeves mate on that one.

23 Apr 2018 21:01:18
I think I asked this a few years back and I think the answer was less play offs, but can't quite remember.

23 Apr 2018 09:57:05
Hey Eds,
How do you think these preffered options correspond with our will to play attractive footall? Neither Simeone nor Allegri seem like they can continue our style of play.

Also, I would like to understand what is so specific about managing club like Arsenal compared to those sides by Nagelsmann or Tedesco.

Thanks for great info you are providing!

{Ed002's Note - The club are looking for the best person for the job. He needs to carry on meeting the values the club has; he needs relevant experience; he needs to command the respect of the players and be able to work with a Director of Football and the board; he needs to be able to communicate well with the media etc.. Arsenal are a large club with considerable tradition that has been playing at the highest level in the English Premier League and in the Champions League. Nagelsmann has been coaching for 18 months after getting the job at Hoffenheim due to the ill health of his predecessor - his future is reasonably well mapped out already and it doesn't include Arsenal. Tedesco has been coaching for around a year in total and has been coaching at Schalke for 9 months - and overachieving. You cannot seriously think Arsenal would consider him as a viable option.}

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23 Apr 2018 11:09:57
You explain perfectly why Nagelsmann or Tedesco wouldn't suit us, yet. I would love to hear your opinion on the first part or this question, "
How do you think these preferred options correspond with our will to play attractive football? Neither Simeone nor Allegri seem like they can continue our style of play. " Thanks in advance. :)

{Ed002's Note - The club want success and Simeone, who I have explained can be discounted, has made Atletico Madrid very successful on a restricted budget based on building a strong defence - which was the way Arsenal bult their success in the Premier League. This doesn't mean that there are no flair players as the likes of Griezmann have done well under him. It is similar with Allegri who has followed the Italian tradition of building from a strong defence - but they still have the likes of Cuadrado and Dybala providing a certain amount of flair.}

23 Apr 2018 12:59:55
Most people who say they want allegri don't even watch Serie A i am sure. They just hear others say he is this and that and they jump on the bandwagon. Allegri's football is reactionary always. He does not advocate for possession based soccer but he is good at what he does. His in-game tactics are really good. He is the kind of coach you would need if you have a very good squad but only need motivation and sense of purpose. But do we have a good squad?

Absolutely not. We have the fourth or fifth best squad in the premier league. Would allegri transform us into title challengers? Absolutely not uness we spend like 300 million pounds. His football is very reactionary and it backfires at times like last night against napoli. I watched the entire game and juventus didn't have a single shot on target and they were the home team! Do we want that kind of coach at Arsenal? He can get away with it in serie A because juventus have more quality than anybody else but doubt he will cracak it in the premie league.

Nagelsmann and tedesco on the other hand have over achieved while playing attractive football. They have proven they can do more with less so what do you think they can achieve with arsenal? a club with better spending power than schalke or hoffenheim. Experience shouldn't be used to discount against them because the little time they were in management they have done incredible things. I would pick any of them against the names being thrown around.

23 Apr 2018 14:11:18
I watch serie a, don’t understand the ins and outs of coaching, but as prospects go it’s very understandable that they are far too inexperienced for the board to consider at this point in their career, I have watched bundaliga a lot this year and agree both nagglesman and Tedesco could well be great coaches at the top level. But I think the board will pick someone who isn’t going to be a risk. Just looking at the general opinion across this site alone suggests that it would be a difficult sell and with how the vast majority of arsenal fans are feeling the next appointment has to been seen as sensible.

23 Apr 2018 15:57:08
The reason why i don't mind any of them is because we are in a terrible state. We are different from united when fergie left in the sense that united won the title when fergie left while we are going to finish sixth. In short, we have nothing to lose so we might as well go for a young bright manager who will bring in youth and build a team for the long term even if that takes a couple of seasons and tedesco and nagelsmann can do better than ancelotti and allegri in that aspect. that is my arguement. I wouldn't even mind an ex player too. Viera and Arteta wouldn't be bad.

We don't have much to lose because we aren't accustomed to winning like united were under fergie. Infact we have never even won the champions league so what we need is a coach with a long term vision that will transform us into a european super power. I was amazed by some posters here who were saying tuchel wasn't good enough to coach arsenal and i was insisting he was the best coach available. Now he is off to PSG. He is good enough for PSG but not for arsenal? Some of the posters here seem to know little about football.

23 Apr 2018 16:30:46
Punani, a little advise. don't tell people they know nothing about football, you won't get much respect. Your opinion is your opinion on football, their opinion is their opinion. Opinion is totally different to actually knowing anything. You may not agree with them but they don't know anything more or less than you and football is about opinion, not what you or anyone says is knowledge. I don't agree with a lot you say but that's your opinion, i don't think you are thick, i just agree or not agree.

23 Apr 2018 16:37:44
Plus punani, tuchel, if he goes to psg does not mean to say he is going to take them any further than the current manager. That fact is for the future, he may take over the world but he may end up working in mac donalds.

23 Apr 2018 16:39:40
I really don’t understand your getting at “some” of the supporters having little knowledge on football and I don’t know what point your trying to argue? Nagglesmen and Tedesco both look exciting prospects, but they won’t be considered by arsenal and most certainly won’t be appointed, candidates who will be considered by the board and have a good chance of the role have been mentioned by “some” of the clueless posters. So if nagglesmen, Tedesco or even tuchel don’t get the Arsenal job then it would appear that it is you who knows little about football. Now I like most on here are not splitting hairs over the quality of nagglesmen or Tedesco. You have your opinion and it’s not a bad one and other people have their opinions but to start saying that other people know little about football maybe a little introduction to yourself about what it is you have done for us to consider your opinion as one to take seriously.
Have you been around the coaches you are championing? Have you seen training sessions? Have you been to a wealth of games live in different leagues around Europe. Have you been doing all of the above for many years? Now I’m not been funny but I would love to hear it. Because the people who will be choosing our next coach will have done the above and then some.

Just a little something for you to think about 👍🏻.

23 Apr 2018 16:52:53
Punani mate we have to try and weight up our best options for the next 2 or 3 years and the manager we feel can get us back in decent shape soonest.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to have us challenging for a title next season but much more hard working disciplines and organised is an absolute must next season from who ever comes in mate.
Personally I don't think it's a job for a rookie manager because although people don't expect titles next season they absolutely will Want to see improvement and whoever comes in will need experience to not only cope with the job in hand but the flack that will come if we struggle again next season.
This is no walk in the park formality job peole will only accept 6th next season if they can see real progress happening in the teams performances each week.

23 Apr 2018 17:27:39
Schalke and Hoffenheim finished 22 and 29pts behind Munich, Schalke lost to them home and away and Munich beat Hoffenheim 5-2 but lost the return game.

So what is it that makes them so special, it’s like others have said, it’s simply an opinion from yourself that won’t end up with either in charge of Arsenal as they are way to inexperienced and this board are not that brave.

Allegri for all his supposed faults has made the semi final of the Champions League 2 years running and but for a somewhat contentious penalty could be in the final.

I’ve no idea who the board will select but it’s a change we wanted to just chill Punani and let’s see what happens.

23 Apr 2018 18:49:53
We need to get back to basics. Allegri will do that.

23 Apr 2018 18:50:05
I agree 100% Stoner, wait and see who we get then back him 100% until he gives you prolonged reason not to so anymore, no matter who he is.

23 Apr 2018 18:56:01
Allegri wouldn't be bad but i don't like his philisophy. Does not play attacking football, not a big fan of the youth but is tactically good though he gets it wrong on occasions but no coach is perfect but he certainly is miles better than some of the coaches mentioned in the papers.

, Spalleti described allegri as the best italian coach when it comes to match preparation and in-game tactics. i am not sure about the match prepartion part but when it comes to in-game tactics Allegri is the best in the world. I just think he is suited to a team with a well established strong squad not one that needs to undergo rebuilding and relies on youth.


The Worst we can get is Brendan rodgers and enrique in my opinion. Both are terrible managers. I can't forgot the disaster enrique was at Roma. He might have won the treble but he nearly got sacked in his first season at Barcelona because he had problems with the big players in the team. He is an abrasive character. About brendan rodgers everyone is oppossed to him i don't need to say more lol.

23 Apr 2018 18:58:54
And my apologies if i offended any poster here with my opinions. I tend to get strong with my opinions and forget my manner at times at times but disregard them i have been wrong many times.

23 Apr 2018 19:15:30
Accepted punani, we all get excited. None of us are perfect. We are all on here with the same passion. For Arsenal football club.

23 Apr 2018 19:33:50
Good on ya Punani mate, top man for that Geeza.

23 Apr 2018 21:59:33
if i was passionate about my girlfriend as i am about arsenal she wouldn't have left me lol.

23 Apr 2018 21:59:38
Steve you know nothing. I love Punani’s opinions and fresh thinking.

Punani - thanks for the education and substance behind your opinions. It’s easy to just state a name with little support outside of what you’ve read on line rather than watched etc.

😉.

23 Apr 2018 22:09:37
Not a problem punani! I do like your choices but think it’s a bit too soon . but I could well be wrong.

23 Apr 2018 22:12:03
Sky reporting that Arteta is the favorite. What do you think steve? I certainly wouldn't mind. Think pochettino said that Arteta would make a great coach and he has been pep's under-study. Apparently he is the one who did the video analysis for city this season and improved their possession game. Am not sure if that is enough to get him the arsenal job though.

People always say barcelona took a chance on guardiola but i read somewhere that when guardiola was doing the interview he impressed the Barcelona board and gave them his vision and he told them they would win everything at the end of the season. They were so impressed they gave him the job apparently. Maybe arteta already did an interview and impressed gazidis who knows.

23 Apr 2018 22:32:00
Punani, i have already stated arteta has done nothing to warrant giving him a big job at arsenal before many other icons. I wasnt a fan of his in an arsenal shirt and i am sure its just another name thrown in there. This club does not need to give a manager with L plates a job. Petential disaster. I can't see how he would sort out all the obvious problems.

23 Apr 2018 22:33:18
Sy, like a lot of others on here, if i knew anything i would be dangerous.

23 Apr 2018 22:37:24
Big risk.

23 Apr 2018 22:44:54
It must be a wind up by sky, Gazidis said "arsenal had to be brave", not stupid.

23 Apr 2018 22:52:17
And sy, it wasnt his opinions that was the problem, if you bother to read the post properly.

Premier League Match Preview Monday 23rd April 2018

23 Apr 2018 08:43:42
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23 Apr 2018 11:50:43
Wasn't Sam only hired for the rest of the season on a short term deal?
I thought his job was to keep them up and then make way for a new manager this summer.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

Review Of The Day 23rd April 2018

23 Apr 2018 07:41:04
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23 Apr 2018 08:57:21
The Kapo story does highlight the crazy money footballers earn but it was still a nice thing to do.

In my charity fundraising experience the more wealthy people were the least they gave away to help others.
A few years back a charity giving per head survey was done for each area of the UK
The 3 most charitable places to live were Sunderland Glasgow and somewhere else in Scotland I can't remember the name the place now and the 3 places that gave away the least were Kensington Surrey and Sussex.

It's always nice to hear of a story of people who have done well for themselves that do nice things for those less wealthy.

{Ed001's Note - agreed mate. It was nice but also disturbing he had enough to afford to just give away a Merc.}

23 Apr 2018 09:11:04
Absolutely Ed It's crazy that such young men get so much wealth at such a young age, no wonder many can't handle it and either end skint or being complete pains.
I've always thought there should be a maximum wage immediately payable for under 30s and with all earnings over that paid into a trust available when they turn 30 and have a little more life experience.
I think they would be happier for it and go on to have a better life after the game too.

{Ed001's Note - I think it should be going into a trust as well, they get crazy money and often end up throwing it all away because they do not know what to do with it. Football as a whole does not do enough to look after those that make it what it is, the players.}

23 Apr 2018 09:28:43
Totally agree, at 17 and 18 or even 21 how gullible and niave were we all and with a few million in your bank already with more and more flooding in each month what an easy target they are for hangers on and advantage takers, if such people had to stick around with you for 10 to 12 years before they could get anything out of young footballers they might go off the idea plus at 30 the players themselves might well be a little to wise to get used quite so easily.

23 Apr 2018 03:19:30
The first thing the next Arsenal manager must do is bring in a top keeper, a pair of quality CB's and DM's.
Our attacking midfield and forward options are decent, assuming we can get Wilshere, Ramsey and Welbeck signed up.
Bearing in mind our chief scout and sporting director have string German and Spanish contacts, perhaps the incoming manager will have a similar background.

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23 Apr 2018 08:14:56
Up until now talking about who and what we need and hoping it will happen has been pretty pointless but suddenly everything is possible again.
No disrespect to Arsene but for me all hope had gone of ever signing the type of players we needed to put right our obvious weaknesses.
Whoever the new manager is this summer will be exciting to see what type of signings we go for and gets.

 


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