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21 Oct 2017 19:06:31
Anyone seen the lovely story about the man in a Nottingham restaurant who saw a homeless man with no shoes walk by?
A beautiful story that I'm sure is far from unique and has already spread across the world and inspired lots of other people to go out and help others less fortunate than themselves.
In a world that sometimes seems to quite depressing and is absolutely full of bad news on a daily basis its great to be reminded that there are a lot lot more kind people in the world than the media would like us belive.
It's about time the good news got equal airtime on TV atleast, who knows what it might lead to.

{Ed025's Note - love that mate..

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21 Oct 2017 19:57:33
It's a lovely story Ed025 mate and you can't help but feel a little more optimistic about the human race when you read mate.

{Ed025's Note - your dead right mate..

21 Oct 2017 20:12:34
Beautiful story mate and an inspiration to all of us.

21 Oct 2017 20:14:49
Gunner there is not enough people in the world like that anymore. I remember when we were kids we repected everyone and I used to cut all the gardens for the elderly and carry their shopping bags off the bus etc but today society are to busy looking at their phones. Next time I'm out in going to give my clothes away as well even if i end up walking down oxford street naked, but one thing I'll be keeping is that famous car of mine as I just can't part with the Subaru.

{Ed025's Note - the thought of that is making me nauseous raver.. :)

21 Oct 2017 20:26:57
It's a discrace that there is homeless people in the uk.

{Ed025's Note - too right mate...thats bloody conservatives for you..

21 Oct 2017 20:36:34
It might make you nauseous Ed but it puts massive smiles on plenty of women lol.

{Ed025's Note - ill bet is does raver...and lay off that marching powder makes your pinkie shrink..

21 Oct 2017 20:38:28
I don't think you can blame any political party mate. There's always been homeless whoevers been in charge. Anyone who gets involved in politics on some level are lunatics who want to change the world to their idea of society. That's why it comes down to individual acts of kindness and humanity to make a difference by sharing their fortunes with the less fortunate. I just don't understand how it's not possible to give shelter to the homeless and an adequate amount of food and rehabilitation to the homeless we have. The things that are supposed to be in place to help these people are so faceless and unaccountable that they often get taken advantage of and miss used by vultures.

{Ed025's Note - your probably right mate, its a shame that society forgets about the have nots SLB..

21 Oct 2017 21:11:22
Agree Ed the marching powder is no good for your fishing tackle, I go out with a 9 incher and come back home with a 9 centre metre lol.

{Ed025's Note - i suspect your fishing tackle may be an anchovy to start with raver..

21 Oct 2017 23:30:02
I don't know about that ed but from what I've heard it smells like one. Some posters wife on here told me. She said she was sick of her husbands tall tales and recently found out that he spent a Thursday night at work in Asda when he told her he was off to Belarus. She said you can't beat the thrill of been over a Subaru bonnet looking down between her legs to see a set of Lonsdale trackies round her lovers anckles.

21 Oct 2017 22:40:07
Ed 😁😁😁.

21 Oct 2017 23:16:25
Don’t see what’s wrong with the conservatives - it’s the believe of self entitlement that’s wrong and the belief that the top 10% should fund everything.
I am happy paying ridiculous taxes to help the truly needy but not for it to be spent on cigs and Xbox games.
Make it more efficient for people to work, reduce funds to those that don’t and give more to people with disabilities or caring for family etc. Tax me more if we get there but don’t think the top 10% can keep everyone and thing afloat
I am going to read the Notts story to restore my faith.

{Ed025's Note - as a staunch union man my contempt for torys stems from that evil witch thatcher SY (may she still be burning in hell) who made the rich richer and the poor poorer, workers rights dont exist anymore and things like zero hours contracts and the bedroom tax just compound things, but i dont want to go down the political route on these pages mate..

22 Oct 2017 10:31:26
All great points Ed and understand your position plus agree that’s it’s not a politics page.

{Ed025's Note - yeah SY thats for another day on a different page mate

22 Oct 2017 11:21:50
Well said ed, tories only look after their own kind and that is only the silver spoon brigade. Down with the establishment.

{Ed025's Note - i never trust any of them steve, anyone wanting to be a politician should automatically be disqualified from actually becoming one mate..

22 Oct 2017 12:28:14
Sanago I love Thursday nights when I give mrs R. G. the full raver treatment in the famous Subaru. I've gone through 3 coil springs on that car with her bouncing up and down on the raver.

21 Oct 2017 18:13:21
Got a feeling we're going to be on good form tomorrow.

Everton 0
Arsenal 3

Sorry Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - i went for 0-4 dags..

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21 Oct 2017 18:16:44
Dags, us with nil and 3 away goals, get a grip man.

21 Oct 2017 18:28:01
You could be right Ed 😁

Keep the faith Steve. Sanchez owes us a game, hopefully tomorrow mate.

21 Oct 2017 20:13:07
Are our players better with a week in-between games mate? I'm not so sure.
We've had some pretty poor results following no midweek games and with so many players being rested on Thursday it's almost like having a free week.
Everton will be up for tomorrow and unless we get off to a decent start I think they will be test us fully.

21 Oct 2017 16:33:36
Chelsea beating Watford 4-2 means either that
NO 1 Chelsea have got more cojones then us
NO 2 Deeney forgot to take his on the pitch
NO 3 I am being sarcastic
What do you reckon folks.

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21 Oct 2017 16:45:22
N0 4 Deeney was correct. We have no cajones.

21 Oct 2017 16:59:09
Didnt really want to put N0 4 in Dags.

21 Oct 2017 17:45:33
Let's give the current set up a chance Dags, if things haven't improved in let's say another 10 to 15 year's then it might be worth considering listening to Deeney and 99% of what the rest of football has been saying for the last decade.
We don't want to rush things mate :-)

21 Oct 2017 17:59:06
Heybridge, I thought so 😁

Babysteps G62.

21 Oct 2017 18:18:39
Thats right, people are making out deeny was saying something original.

21 Oct 2017 20:46:57
Disrespectful, not one Man City player said that about Watford when they smashed them 6-0 at vicarage road.

21 Oct 2017 21:31:55
Good point Gunnerbod.

21 Oct 2017 15:41:03
Go on Huddersfield 👍.

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21 Oct 2017 15:53:54
The Portuguese gimp will not be happy.

21 Oct 2017 16:15:34
They must have injuries ;-)

21 Oct 2017 16:55:06
Beautiful, not quiet an annihilation but it’ll do. 😂.

21 Oct 2017 17:11:11
Quite even! 🙄.

21 Oct 2017 17:25:36
Stoner mate, there was a meltdown on the Utd live chat. Sydney way blaming the result on Jose not shaving, lol.

21 Oct 2017 17:31:16
Well done huddersfield, that's a great result for them.

21 Oct 2017 18:54:30
The lancs don't get any change in Yorkshire 💪🏻.

21 Oct 2017 18:58:59
Sydney’s back, jeez I thought he’d gone back to supporting Chelsea like he used too after United stopped winning.

Couple of little trophies and he’s back! 😘😂.

21 Oct 2017 20:16:02
I don't know who's more boring to watch man Utd or west brom.

21 Oct 2017 09:18:51
Couldn’t see a post on it. But one area I’ve been so disappointed in this season and for me are where games are being lost. And that it the Central midfield area. I can’t see after two transfer windows we still miss Santi.
Xhaka who I’ve been sticking up for is just not cutting it. Watford was the last straw. He shows moments of quality but are few and far apart for me.

Elneny I like but I just don’t think he is good enough to be a starter.

Ramsey again like others is so inconsistent it’s frustrating

Coq for me is a bit like Elneny. Tries hard but just doesn’t cut it.

So for me as much as I’ve not been a fan
Does wilshere deserve a premier league start with everyone being pretty crap in the cm department. Would niles be worth a go? What do others think.

{Ed025's Note - i have been one of jacks biggest detractors over the years D16 (mainly due to his off field antics) but ability wise he is one of your best players mate..

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21 Oct 2017 11:01:13
Xhaka is only good when where in control. A bit of a flat track bully, he doesn't work hard enough to play that possition, or work hard enough in the right areas . Elneny is a safe player and very rarely if ever does anything wrong but on the other hand doesn't do anything to right either. He is the main culprit for side to side passing and passing backwards, slowing the play down and not tracing with the ball. We're in a situation where we don't have a midfielder that can travel and run with the ball except jack. But for him to flourish we need a better harder working player in there with him. Someone like kante you would see best of jack . We have not played good football since cazorla.

21 Oct 2017 11:13:56
Le Coq is great at what Le Coq does but he needs the right partner to make it work, Caz complimented him perfectly and we should have replaced Caz in the summer no question of that, trying to make Xhaka work has done and will be continue to be a real problem for us.
34 million is a lot of money to admit youve spent unwisely so Arsene will continue to try and make Xhaka a success.
The tea is crying out for Le Coq Wilshere partnership because it's the closet we have to what worked so well with Caz.
Arsene will eventually accept Xhaka was a miscalculation but that won't happen before the summer at the earliest.

21 Oct 2017 12:45:38
Ha ha D, "couldnt see a post on it" should of gone to specsavers. Lol.

21 Oct 2017 14:25:16
Tongue in cheek that part was Steve 😉.

21 Oct 2017 15:54:17
Spot on D16. Fact is we lack a quality core in both central defense and midfield and without that we won't compete at the top level. We are vulnerable without the ball and always likely to concede. Our successful sides of the past had this. It is also the reason where luxury players like Ozil are exposed as you need all hands to the pump when we don't have possession. With the right core you can carry players like that to some extent as a Silva, Viera, Petit would provide a wall in front of an equally quality defense. They would win the ball back and we would be off in attack again.

21 Oct 2017 08:28:58
Does the whole Sanchez and Ozil contract issues prove Wenger can't buy and then manage big players?

{Ed025's Note - no, it means players are greedy glenn..

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21 Oct 2017 09:02:58
Are they greedy or hungry for competitive football Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - a bit of both i suppose G62, but mainly greed mate..

21 Oct 2017 09:32:02
Do you think that's the case with those two ed? There allegedly been some big money put down for them.

{Ed025's Note - much wants more SLB, they know that these days someone will pay the fee and wages and money is power, would they go to PSG if they were offered a pay cut to join where they would win things?..ill let you decide mate..

21 Oct 2017 10:50:17
Mesut will go to Utd or Turkey and Sanchez City in my opinion and we can nothing to stop them. Our only remaining chioces are to take whatever money we can get n January or watch them go where ever they chose for free in the summer.
Even if it's £20 million for the pair surely it's better to take something rather than nothing when the outcome is going to be the same regardless.

21 Oct 2017 12:47:07
Top players who want to win leagues want to play at top teams under top managers. At the moment we don't fit that bill.

21 Oct 2017 15:23:28
Exactly neymar didn't join psg because of the sites in Paris all about money and greed.

21 Oct 2017 16:08:59
Money is obviously a factor but more so when players are frustrated at the lack of competitiveness and ambition. The Ozil and Sanchez situation shows Wenger was capable of making marquee signings but unable to build on that by adding continual quality and improving the team. Had we been winning leagues and competing in the CL negotiating new deals for them both would have been a far easier process. Fact is they look at the team with the same frustrations we do. Mediocre players compared to the top sides in the league. People can point the finger at them but reality is they are good enough to be playing with a higher level of player than we have put around them and those teams are willing to pay them well to do that. No brainer as much as it pains me to say it. Doesn't excuse any lack of effort or attitude though.

21 Oct 2017 11:18:38
I don't doubt greed in players ed but I don't think it's the sole factor in this particular case.

{Ed025's Note - it will always be a major factor for me SLB although i blame the agents myself...i hate them with a passion mate..

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21 Oct 2017 05:49:25
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21 Oct 2017 09:12:09
I've a sneaky feeling Burnley might surprise everyone by getting a point at City.

{Ed025's Note - it is possible i suppose, but then mathematically everton could still win the league mate..

21 Oct 2017 12:01:46
Not after Sunday's game you won't Ed 😁.

21 Oct 2017 12:03:53
True mate very true :-)

20 Oct 2017 19:07:19
Hi all. United fan coming in peace.
I read a good thread at the bottom of this page regarding how long the 4th place epl team will still qualify for the cl. Also on whether you wanted domestic rivals to do well in the cl or not.
Well the rules have changed. Now the top 4 ranked leagues automaticaly get 4 cl places. Those are in order la liga, epl, italian german and french is miles behind in 5th. Epl is miles ahead of italy and germany and are really assured to always be in the top four ranked leagues so effectively guaranteed 4 places for the foreseeable future.
On the 2nd point i have no problem with domestic rivals doing well but never want to see any of them win it or get to a final. With the exception of liverpool who i would like to see get to the final every year and lose because the only thing better than liverpool losing is watching liverpool nearly win and then lose😂😂
But in the case of the EL this season i hope arsenal win it and with a bit of luck in the draw after the 3rd placed cl teams come into it you can definitely win it. We all know its not the cl but don't turn your noses up at it. There is all the joy of winning it, the trips to support them, the night of the final the memories and a guaranteed cl place.
Sure last season we won and it won't rank as high as our cl wins with supporters but we needed it. badly and its been a bit of a springboard for the team and manager it can be the same for your club allbeit with a new manager probably.
Sorry for long post. Enjoy the rest of the season and i hope you go on to win the EL and that you enjoy the ride.
Some too posters on this page and while i rarely contribute i enjoy reading the banter and football opinions.

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20 Oct 2017 19:46:35
Great post Ken, my personal opinion is we still have a way to go as a club from top to bottom before we actually accept we aren't currently one of the games elite and get back to basics in order to regain our place.
We do as a club think we are above the league cup and Europa league and unless we get to the semi final of either won't give them the respect they deserve.
City Utd Chelsea all try and win the league cup each season as Mourinho Pep as with Mancini and Pelgrini before him realise the value of creating a winning mentality and maintaining and encouraging it over a season not thinking it can be turned on like a tap as and when wanted.
We are not yet ready to change with the times and learn from others despite our obvious weaknesses mentality wise that have been and continue to be well documented over the past 10 seasons and continue to be this season too.
I think we may need to go a bit further backwards before we are really ready to move forwards from top to bottom.

20 Oct 2017 19:57:50
G62 ken must be your united twin. What a nice even handed gentleman. Cheers ken your a gent.

{Ed025's Note - ken has been a top poster for a long time SLB..

20 Oct 2017 22:28:17
Ken's a good bloke.
Nice post too.

20 Oct 2017 21:03:19
So it appears ed!

20 Oct 2017 15:42:18
Hey hammer fan here in peace I've been a massive fan of back Wilshire for ages now and in the summer when we were linked to him I crossed everything hoping we could him but unfortunately we didn't but how on earth he's not in your first team I don't know he's an amazing player well just wanted to say that and if you don't want him maybe lend him yo us 👍😉 all the best for the season guys.

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20 Oct 2017 16:57:34
I nearly choked on my strongbow last night when commentator Stewart Robson said he's the best player to come out of England since gazza. I think he forgot Gerrard, lampard, Scholes etc even dele alli is a better player at his age than Wilshire.

20 Oct 2017 17:37:03
I'm a huge wilshere fan and your right raver he isn't anywhere near them and probably a few others. What he meant to say was he has shades of gazza but only when he is playing on top form which unfortunately has only been a few occasions.

20 Oct 2017 18:01:41
Fair point sanago, I thought when he was younger he reminded of inesta of Barcelona and I thought he would end up at a club like that but the rumours are he's arrogant and think he's better than he actually is.

20 Oct 2017 19:12:03
Gazza was the real deal ability wise he was up there with Ranaldo Messi Cruyff but unfortunately for him and England his personality wasn't suited to making the most of his unbelievable talent.
Jack obviously isn't in that class but he's far from alone there as very very few are.
None of Gerrard Lampard scholes Beckham were in the top bracket reserved for footballs elite but they had the personality and attitude to make the absolute most of all they had.
Unfortunately Jack doesn't have the attitude of personality of Gerrard Lampard Beckham and Scholes or the ability to make up for it of Gazza.
Dele Ali reminds me more of Jack than any of the others mentioned as there are serious questions about his attitude being able to match his very good but limited ability.
Jack could yet have an excellent career but every season that passes the odds get longer and longer against it happening, questions over his physical capabilities are huge but they aren't his only problem as his attitude and personality are every bit as questionable a ps his fitness.
Harry Kane seems to have the personality and attitude plus ability needed to follow in the footsteps of Gerrard Lampard Beckham and Scholes but both Ali and Wilshere look well behind Harry in having the requirements needed to be talked about years after they retire.

20 Oct 2017 18:36:38
Rumours I heard around the time of his first long lay off (which appeared extremely long given the nature of the supposed injury) that he was jack the lad by nature and had a problem with the marching powder and the club took action to put him back together. Could be a load of rubbish but heard it from lots of different people in and around the ground. I wonder if the eds ever heard of anything on the dodgy side. If not have the eds ever heard of any drug problems in the EPL in general?

{Ed025's Note - loads to be honest SLB and a couple of arsenal players are on that list, its a major problem within the game and when you have young kids on thousands a week its hardly surprising, i wont name names as a lot of it is speculation but im sure we all have a fair idea of the usual suspects mate..

20 Oct 2017 19:34:32
Gunner gazza was a fantastic player but he was nowhere near Glenn Hoddle who for me is still the best footballer to come from England he had absolutely everything.

{Ed025's Note - he was very good raver but whether or not he was better than gazza is down to personal preference mate..

20 Oct 2017 20:00:44
Glen Hoddle v Bryan Robson raver? No contest mate Robbo by a distance.
Gazza v Robbo? Gazza by the same margin in my opinion raver mate.

20 Oct 2017 20:01:01
People will look back in ten years and all say it was Rooney . Time away immortolise people. United and England's all time top scorer. By the way he's not my favourite player for club or country . In fact I can't be doing with the potato head but that's how it will get seen given time.

20 Oct 2017 21:32:35
Gunner Bryan Robson was class the box to box midfielder, I still don't think he gets the credit he deserves today, as for marching powder problems sanago I know how Wilshire feels😎.

20 Oct 2017 07:03:07
Rangers fan here but has an interest in arsenal anyway etc when is arsenal going to get rid of Wenger it's went stale for the team the past 2 years Wenger should of went after the FA cup victory, at least that would of been a high. I see spurs are actually looking in better shape then arsenal and have done for a season or so tf is going on at the enirates these days?

There ambitions have lowered since the days of gallas and Henry. I want to see arsenal spend 200M in a transfer window and actually seriously compete for the premier league title. they lack real leaders on the pitch and they need to have a plan B when things don't go right and lastly that defence needs someone commanding to shout at players and take order. when watching arsenal you always feel like they could concede 1 goal per game .

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20 Oct 2017 09:05:10
If we have 200m to spend I say save it for next manager.

20 Oct 2017 12:52:09
I agree Sanogo and with interest that figure should double too by the year 2050 when we finally get one :-)


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