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15 Feb 2019 22:42:05
Ed001, what do you think of the Ozil situation?

{Ed001's Note - I just don't see the point in leaving the most creative player in Europe sat on the sidelines. You have to make use of the best players you have and he is the best you have.}

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16 Feb 2019 07:49:11
Ditto ED, and the amount we are paying him, I don’t get it.

{Ed001's Note - I find it bizarre. Emery has nothing to lose by including him. If the team loses, Ozil gets the blame, if the team wins Ozil gets none of the credit, so why exclude him?}

16 Feb 2019 08:48:24
If we were playing well and looking solid at the back without Mesut then who could question Emery stance on Ozil or anyone else, but unfortunately we neither look solid or effective with our top earner either on the bench or left out completely.
Big brave decisions and leaving out top players are only good decisions if they pay off and the team is betrer without them.

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. But my point on the blame thing was that he would not be the one being questioned when the team loses if Ozil was there. We all know the media love to witch hunt him and it would all be blamed on Ozil. So Emery then gets a pass on the bad performances because he is 'stuck with' Ozil and has to use him.}

16 Feb 2019 09:15:25
The thing is Ed001 every man and his dog knows that Mesut is a class act that Arsenal have never fully capitalised on having.
If you buy a player like Ozil then you have utilise him by playing a system that suits him not trying to turn a top creative player into a work horse.
We bought Mesut for a club record fee then Arsene stuck him out on the wing because he didn't want to move other players already at the club to accommodate our record signing we then paid him an absolute fortune in wages not to leave only for Dick to stick him in his own front room to sit and watch Xhaka on telly.
If any club in history has ever been guilty of mismanagement of a player then Arsenal's mismanagement with Mesut Ozil is right up there with the worst of them.

{Ed001's Note - it is not just Arsenal who have done so to be fair. Look at the Germans, he creates the most chances of the entire World Cup, yet they racially abuse him to the point where he doesn't want to play for his country any more. It is bizarre. One of the best players in the world, yet no one is willing to try and make an effort to keep him happy and figure out how to get the most out of him.}

16 Feb 2019 11:10:37
That’s what’s so annoying Ed. Put Ozil in the hole with quality in attack, a runner from deep and a defensive unit to ensure he doesn’t waste energy defending.

Torriera and Doucouré in the middle of midfield

3 proper centrehalves

2 hard working wingers like Bellerin and Kola to give width, pace etc

Se3ms so obvious when you see week in week out us getting exposed while having no real creativity - it’s a win win for Emery

Like at PSG - he doesn’t know how to handle big names or organise a team.

{Ed001's Note - it was the same at Sevilla, he kept falling out with their best players too. Fine when wins are coming, but as soon as things go wrong it causes fractures in the team.}

16 Feb 2019 12:01:50
The longer Dick pursues his current path on Mesut the defence and tactics and methods without clear and obvious improvement then the more people will question him and his methods
Nothing is any different now than it was this time last season or the season before that.
After 8 months it's not unreasonable to expect some kind of positive signs somewhere that people can get behind?
For a decade Arsene told us don't worry about what you see with your own eyes just be patient, I know what I'm doing, Arsene had the track record at Arsenal so people gave him time, gladly
Sorry Dick but I doubt that same approach will work long for you, your going to have to actually give us something we can see for ourselves if you want to be around long.

16 Feb 2019 13:24:05
Thanks Ed, I totally agree, I’m not trying to be negative but I am really not impressed with Unai Emery.

{Ed001's Note - he did seem an odd choice but he might surprise us all yet.}

16 Feb 2019 13:36:16
On Germanys opening world cup game Mesut was by far their best player but he's dropped for the next match because the media had already fueld the fans against Mesut before the world cup and Lowe bottled it.
Mesut needs a manager who actually both totally rates him and who isn't frightened of the media or fans and trusts his own judgement and Ozls ability to have the last laugh.

Because of Mesuts ethnic origin he is a very easy target for the media to get lots and lots of milage out of among the easy manipulated fans who aren't difficult to stir up into a frenzy of hate, it's the same with Rahwen Stirling in this county now he is the presses new play thing to destroy for their own ends without a first let alone second thought of morality about them.
Whoever first said " The press only put you on a pedestal so they can knock you down again " was spot on and there seems no limits to what some journalists and some papers won't sink to for what? Tomorrow's chip paper with the only lasting effect being on there victims long after the hits have dried up.

15 Feb 2019 20:45:56
Ed's,

I'm intrigued to know if Emery's stock has fallen as rapidly internally at the club as it seems to be externally.

Are you aware of any discontent at board level? Or will they keep backing him like they did with AW even though results/ performances are less than favourable?

It would be interesting to know if they had considered a 'back up' option.

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - He wasn’t the preferred option, got very lucky at the start and now needs to get it back on track.}

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15 Feb 2019 21:49:02
Personally I'm beginning to wonder if the players are starting to doubt him too.
I really hope he turns it round and comes good as he seems a nice bloke but the longer he goes on with no sign of improvement the more and more people from all sides of the Arsenal equation will begin to question him.
He needs to start winning doubters back not increasing their numbers.

15 Feb 2019 18:05:57
Ed002,

Just saw your reply to my Feb 7 post. Scathing. Hilarious.

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16 Feb 2019 09:18:25
It was legendary Alex mate wasn't it :-)
I'm smiling again now after your reply reminded me of it :-)

15 Feb 2019 12:39:56
I said at the start of the season we have another yes man in emery, and I was slated I will look forward to the reviews of the ones that slated me at the end of the seaon, I’ve noticed 2 that did are already saying he’s not good enough.

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15 Feb 2019 12:54:11
Hi Jelfy:-)

15 Feb 2019 16:33:31
Only one thing worse than a man with hindsight and that’s a man who revels in saying I told you so! I can’t be arsed to check but on the 22 match unbeaten run don’t remember a lone voice saying ‘ he’s a yes man though ‘ although I get the impression you will let me know if you did COYG. Very poor last night but we will go through or will we - those with hindsight can let me know next Friday Jeeeez!

15 Feb 2019 17:33:35
I think someone did mention it during the 22 match run Sussex mate but I can't quite remember who it was but it was definitely one of either Welsh Craig Jelfy or Crybaby:-) in fact cone to think about it wasn't it actually Crybaby who said at the start of the season Emery was a yes man and not Welsh at all :-) ?

15 Feb 2019 20:01:20
Probably me as I’m normally right 😂.

15 Feb 2019 20:50:31
Was it Cech?

“It was one of those games where if we played for another couple of hours probably we wouldn’t have scored. But there are games in football like that, ”

Or Perry Groves

“if you’re telling me Mesut Ozil and Aaron Ramsey aren’t better in our first team than Alex Iwobi and Henrikh Mkhitaryan, I’m not having it at all. “

Sort your 💩 out Emery as it’s begining the stink.

15 Feb 2019 21:33:36
I said we were lucky to win most of the games, and he is a yes man.

15 Feb 2019 22:04:09
Yes, but who were you being when you said it Welsh? That's the question :-).

16 Feb 2019 12:22:29
Unfortunately 62 I’ve been moaning about him since the first friendly as he’s been useless since then and continued to moan. I just sound like a grumpy old man now 😂 😂.

16 Feb 2019 13:27:36
Well said sy4.

Sporting Villains 2: Harold Schumacher

15 Feb 2019 09:53:12
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Sporting Villains 2: Harold Schumacher

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15 Feb 2019 10:12:57
Great read ed 👍.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Belly, glad you enjoyed it mate.}

Review Of The Day 15th February 2019

15 Feb 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th February 2019

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15 Feb 2019 04:16:45
There was once a time when I enjoyed watching arsenal play so much that defeat didn't even bother me. That disappeared in the end of wingers reign, keeps getting worse. We no longer play beautiful football, and we still can't seem to win a game. Did anyone really want emery? Was anyone actually excited or just relieved when they realised it wouldn't be arteta?
Has he done anything or shown any small glimpses that things will change for the better? Defence still woeful, unorganised and seemingly uncoached. Xhaka still starting games, ozil publicly shamed and banished, and the attacking football, with laca and auba, is crap.

Anyone got a positive post in them?

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15 Feb 2019 05:11:31
Last season let's not forget we finished 6th and had an embarrassing 3rd round FA Cup loss to a poor Nottingham Forest team. The squad he left was the weakest I can recall for decades and was nearly caught by the likes of Burnley, never mind challenging for a top four spot. This season we are currently in 5th place and despite last night's defeat, we could easily finish the month in the last 16 of the EL and with two winnable PL home matches, in 4th place. Despite a restricted budget the signings made during Emery's time at the club have been decent, withe the exception of stop-gap signing Lichtsteiner, we have to see how Suarez gets on. Emery has had to contend with 3 season ending injuries in a squad that was already numerically challenged. As fans we have to get behind Emery and the team and do our bit. It is half time in the EL and we are still odds on to get through to the last 16,

15 Feb 2019 07:43:52
I minded getting beat 7 0 by Chelsea on Arsenes 1000th game a lot and the pretty football didn't make me feel any better about us being whipping boys.
Emery is looking increasingly incapable of organising us any better than Arsene was, so far he's absolutely no better or worse than Arsene in his final 5 years.
Everyone one knows changing managers is like changing cars, if the old car is no longer reliable you have little choice but sometimes you have to go through a few poor choice replacements before you pick up a car your that is right for you.
We have to give Emery next season but all the signs are we've traded like for like with our first attempt at replacing Arsene.

15 Feb 2019 14:09:18
Its a bit like when your team is losing and the manager sends on another center forward, initially to cheers, but only on a like for like basis to replace the existing center forward. This then gets rightly booed by the fans every-time, mainly against the manager for showing such a massive lack of ambition, organization skills and understanding. Each week we continue as we are, I am starting to get more afraid that our new manager is the equivalent like for like replacement for Wenger. Yes he is stuck by having the same players, and yes, we know footballers are not the sharpest tools in the box, and may struggle to implement a complex new set up a la the Gary Neville I-pad led system at Valencia. However, six months in, and the best he has done is to organize the team to play in the exact same way as Wenger, where the opposition could probably leave the field for 5 minutes knowing we will be wasting everybody's time while we slowly pass the ball side to side for ages without ever getting near to creating a chance (but i guess the player pass completed stats look great! ) is what i don't understand. Change the set up for gods sake. If you try to change but lose, I still think the fans would understand what your trying to achieve, and therefore will be on your side. However, to come in and play exactly the same way as Wenger repeatedly tried and failed, and which was deemed as madness, seems so strange coming from a man who seemed to spout such good ideas and knowledge before he arrived? Yes, he deserves more time and a transfer window assuming he wants to implement major changes to both personnel and play, but if the style we are already playing is it, then why bother giving him more time, as the fans already know it doesn't work, as we have all witnesses it over the last 5 years. We all know this, but I am surprised he doesn't seem to?

15 Feb 2019 18:31:18
I would say 62 Wenger would play his big boys, Dick is worried about upsetting anyone . apart from Xhaka it seems . We have to give him two Summer windows to see how it pans out, though I feel if he fails it’s more to do with lack of funds than his ability.

15 Feb 2019 19:12:28
Should read Dick isn’t worried.

15 Feb 2019 19:28:28
Lack of funds may stop him making us champions Banbury mate but it isn't be money that's preventing him improving us in any way shape or form.
If he can't come up with a better defensive game plan than poor old Arsene could or get more out of our existing players then I'm not sure why we hired him at all.
Money and players may limit what you can achieve but it shouldn't completely nullify absolutely any improvement what so ever.

16 Feb 2019 01:34:44
62 mate, you’ve been mentioning this bad car buy quiet often mate ;) whatever happen you just need to move on mate ;) . Cars can be a bit tricky to buy sometimes 😝.
As for the rest, I’m just fed up already with the way he’s handling ozil amd ramsey, playing xhaka regularly whatever his performances is like. Beside the our team lack organisations at the back we lack creativity.
Ok iwobi run at defenders but 99.9% of it is pointless. Micki not himswlf and playing out of position. I seriously can see anything different tactically on the pitch.

15 Feb 2019 00:13:19
Imagine Wenger froze out Ozil, refused to play Aubameyang and Lacazette together and played a conservative back 5 away at BATE. There would be murders 😂😂.

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15 Feb 2019 07:54:03
I agree with that, so far Dick is living purely off not being Arsene Wenger despite the obvious similarities.

15 Feb 2019 00:11:55
Why after a result like tonight’s are ‘contracts’ the issue.

Regardless of contracts it is not or shouldn’t be difficult to control and dominate a team we beat 4-0 with our under 21s away from home last year.

We can get away with losing to city, Liverpool etc as we are in ‘transition’ but that doesn’t excuse performances like tonight’s.
Get in the real world, emery has been disappointing so far even with the same group of players Wenger had plus a full season of auba and Torreira.

Just want a pragmatic dynamic manager who makes us competitive and adaptable in every game we play. Burnley do it, we should be able to regardless of how our ‘contracts’ are handled.

Wake up smell the coffee. Bar Tottenham at home + Fulham away (who are horrendous btw) when have you actually watched us and enjoyed a comprehensive clinical performance this season?

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15 Feb 2019 05:54:41
Contracts aren’t just the issue I’m pointing what a mess we are internally and are tighter than a ducks a*** with money, that has a knock on effect on the strength of the squad

Or don’t you see that?

15 Feb 2019 11:38:18
Contracts have been a mess mate but I’m saying that is no excuse for recent performances. Proven internationals not delivering. Don’t hide behind negotiations for that.

15 Feb 2019 18:43:05
Fair point but it seems it’s another season of same old, the way contracts, salaries have been handled has made us a laughing stock . going back several years, then he have the highest paid player at the club left at home . apparently fit?

I’ve managed players on wagers and they are all the same no matter what level, it all causes unrest and ultimately poor performance.

14 Feb 2019 20:30:31
It's the raver tucked up at home enjoying a few hoffmeisters and watching auf weidesen pet after smashing the German league leaders last night 😎 just turned over and seen Arsenal have lost to bate borisov! 😂😂😂.

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14 Feb 2019 20:58:59
I thought you were overdosed bro. You are doing well raver.

14 Feb 2019 21:18:05
How's tricks raver mate, long long time no see?

14 Feb 2019 21:21:28
Raver they aren't great against teams from narnia😂.

14 Feb 2019 22:28:03
Great result Raver for your boys the other night. Well done.

14 Feb 2019 23:24:33
Doing well boys, I try not to let football ruin my life anymore and being a spurs fan, it certainly does that as my drinking, drugs and gambling addictions have gone through the roof thanks to my club letting me down every year. I still have the main love of my life with me in the SUBARU 😎.

15 Feb 2019 07:57:20
Well it's always good to hear from you Raver mate, don't be a stranger.

15 Feb 2019 13:09:51
Watch out folks, there's a golf cart coming through.

15 Feb 2019 17:40:24
That's done it Sharpie, that's Raver gone off this page until 2020 :-) and you know he's golf cart sensitive his is too you, you, you big golf cart mentioner you! :-)

 


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