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17 Oct 2018 15:09:29
Missing your article today ED001 mate :)

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, there was not much news around, not enough for an article and I got so lost trying to find some I ran out of time for the autolinks. If I had noticed I would have just put in some padding like some old funny footie stories or something. I have set a daily alarm now to remind me of the time so hopefully it won't happen again.}

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17 Oct 2018 18:27:09
Hah great work as always mate, i really do enjoy them, it's the first thing i read when i get to work.

{Ed001's Note - I am really glad you enjoy them mate. Makes it worth getting up to do them each day knowing people like them.}

17 Oct 2018 19:47:36
You can second me in that. It’s usually the first thing I read every day. Sort it out ed01. Your like the typical drug dealer! Get us hooked then make us cluck. Only joking (well kind of) 😁👍.

{Ed001's Note - see this is when, if I had any sense, I would start charging a subscription for them!!}

17 Oct 2018 01:31:56
Seeing Opta confirming that since they’ve been doing detailed data over last 12 years Mesut has created more chances than any other player! Imagine if he’d been trying 😉 Muppets COYG.

{Ed001's Note - I will never understand why he gets so much grief.}

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17 Oct 2018 11:06:52
Hi Ed, the difficulty with Ozil is that under Wenger, so few players worked hard defensively and tackled back. The club had too many playmakers and attacking midfield players: Wilshere, Ozil, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey, etc In order for Ozil to flourish he needs a free-ish role, with others doing the defensive work. Hence Arsenal have withdrawn the offer made to Ramsey and signings such as Torreira and Guendouzi work hard and can tackle, providing a platform for Ozil to shine.

{Ed001's Note - but Ozil did get back and cover, just never received any credit when he did so, only abuse when he didn't.}

17 Oct 2018 12:37:03
RG the clue is in the over the last twelve years part not since Guendouzi and Torreira have arrived! Used to annoy me when the crowd went mad cheering when Sanchez went all Hollywood and lost the ball but chased it back! Ozil didn’t lose it in the first place! Possibly he’s not doing so well at United as he’s not being assisted anymore COYG.

17 Oct 2018 13:49:15
Also clearly not ozils fault Germany bombed at the world cup, they still suck! wonder who the scape goat is now?

{Ed001's Note - that is something I keep asking and no one seems to have an answer. Probably just say it is due to the fall out of Ozil's picture!}

17 Oct 2018 14:37:29
I think if people recorded the next game Mesut starts then watches it for a 2nd time where they consecrate on Mesut for the full 90 minutes it would open a few people's eyes to what work he really does put in for the team, it shocked me and I've always been a huge Ozil fan anyway.

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. The commentator always ignores his tracking back, unless he makes a sarky comment about it being unusual. It is unfair that he gets so much grief.}

17 Oct 2018 15:18:05
A quality player such as Ozil is best used to create openings and make life difficult in general for the opposition, not to chase around like a headless chicken kicking anything that moves.
In the 1998 team, the midfield comprised; Parlour, Vieira, Petit and Overmars. The workrate and defensive cover provided by the other three allowed Overmars to play further forward and hence he usually scored 15 or so goals a season whilst at the club.
In the invincibles team, we had Ljungberg, Vieira, Gilberto and Pires. Again three players could provide the defensive base to enable Pires to express himself further forward, where he also scored regularly.
It would be interesting at times, possibly against top opponents or for tricky away matches, to play Torreira and Xhaka as the two deep midfield players and then Mailand-Niles, Ozil and Giendouzi in the three.

17 Oct 2018 18:31:50
The truth and the facts are (but not this season so far) he is one of the best in the world at making chances. His downfall is team play when they don't have the ball, he maybe is one of the worst. A team needs to be set up to make use of "his" strength and weakness. that's why he was allowed to leave Real in his prime, in my opinion. Real don't sell their best assets.

17 Oct 2018 19:21:53
Pep Gardiola calls him the best player in the world without the ball Steve, and Peps worked with and against some of the very best over the years.

17 Oct 2018 21:47:13
I expect pep to try and sign him then gunner. Bid in January?

17 Oct 2018 21:51:02
A bit of a strange remark that, what did he say about when he had the ball. Lol. I have heard many in the football world say opposite to that. Of all his strengths, without the ball is not one of them.

17 Oct 2018 22:08:46
Maybe try and watch him for 90 minutes Steve mate then you'll know for yourself if you agree or disagree with Peps assessment.

17 Oct 2018 22:16:17
Still, didn't pep say at one point raul bravo was the best goalkeeper in the world. Lol.

16 Oct 2018 13:03:56
Laca likes noisy crowds and atmosphere at games. Guess he must hate the last 15 mins of a game as the stadium empties.

Goes to show the power a crowd can have - COYG.

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16 Oct 2018 14:00:27
He said after joining Arsenal he released just how much he enjoyed the buzz of the crowd, but quickly added he doesn't miss it as much as he thought he might:-)

{Ed001's Note - do you think he meant it as a dig? Only it sure seems like he was saying while playing elsewhere how great it is to finally hear the crowd instead of playing in a library....}

16 Oct 2018 15:10:37
The difference with crowds in the Bundesliga, ligue 1, Serie A and La Liga are unbelievable, crowd noise, drums, chanting, announcers and everything is great, the UK fans are like a library compared, I wish they would try to bring that atmosphere over here.

16 Oct 2018 17:56:31
He clearly misses the atmosphere - booing your old manager and half empty stadium by the final whistle surely doesn’t help. Hopefully Emery reenergises the atmosphere as I am sure that’s how you make it a fortress. Anfield crowd can be a huge plus for Pool. We need that extra man.

16 Oct 2018 18:58:51
That's where Klopp would have been ideal for us because not only did he demand 100% from the players when he arrived he also openly challenged the fans that they has to be backing the team 100% for 90 minutes also, everyone stood up to be counted and now Anfield is a fortress again because of Klopps demanding it.
I'm not knocking Dick in any way shape or form because I think he is doing a great job but we have never been the most noisy of fans especially when we go behind and that's not been improved by moving to the Emirates by any stretch of the imagination.
Getting the Arsenal fans to be the extra man isn't impossible but it won't just happen by itself, it needs to be thought about by the club and fans together then organised even orchestrated and worked at to achieve what we've never really had especially when the going gets tough.

{Ed002's Note - And what has he won for the significant funds spent?}

16 Oct 2018 19:09:48
The hearts and support of Liverpool fans Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Extremely wet.}

16 Oct 2018 21:29:40
wet it may well be mate but it's true none the less and he's taken them to a champions league final and turned them into title contenders in a very short space of time, plus got players club and fans all pulling together for the good of Liverpool football club.

{Ed002's Note - You might want to read the Liverpool page where you will find exactly the opposite. You seemingly have a very naive view.}

16 Oct 2018 21:48:58
When it comes to the Liverpool page I must admit I'm extremely naive mate but what I see on the pitch and hear from the fans in the stands they look a club in the best shape I've seen them in for a very very long time on and off the pitch.
To me they play the best football with the most commitment from players with fans that are part of their turn around and a board that's committed too, without putting the clubs future in doubt with unsustainable spending.

{Ed002's Note - They were in better shape when winning things.}

17 Oct 2018 21:59:14
Im afraid, winning is the only thing that satifies fans, he will have to win (like poch) to be flavour of the month. Us fans are fickle, whoeverwe support.

Review Of The Day 16th October 2018

16 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 16th October 2018

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15 Oct 2018 11:51:53
Perhaps Arsenal withdrew Ramsey's contract offer in order to comply with Premier League wage rules, taking into account the wages of players signed, deals extended at higher wages and future signings wages?

{Ed002's Note - No, that was not the reason. I have already explained the reason.}

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15 Oct 2018 06:57:21
With the squad back to full fitness, with the exception of Koscielny, towards the end of the month, how much playing time will Ramsey get now he appears to be going and if he rarely plays it might entice him to leave in January when we could get a fee or a player exchange for him.
Now fit again I would like to see Maitland-Niles play at times in the midfield 3, in Emery's 4-2-3-1 formation, as he could give better defensive balance to the team.
On a different note, the internationals are so utterly boring, I can't wait until next Monday when we play Leicester.

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15 Oct 2018 08:41:00
I wouldn't have played him this season at all unless he committed his future to the club last summer.
He's tried to take advantage of his final year contract and hold the club to ransom as others have before and I'm really pleased the club has said no more to this strategy that's been used to great effect by Theo and Mesut in the past to get outrageous wages based on financial strategy rather than footballing achievements in an Arsenal shirt.
Ramsey should have been told last summer his choices were sign, leave or train a alone for 12 months with no chance of playing for us again.

Dick will play him though and that's fair enough because at the end of the day Dick will stand or fall by what decisions he makes not by the ones others think he should make.

Dick will be judged on results only and there will be no Dick split amongst the fans if he doesn't make us competitive again over the next 3 seasons so he has to do what he thinks is right rather than what's popular with fans.

15 Oct 2018 11:25:08
We really should have made an effort to have sold Ramsey earlier, but perhaps Emery needed him as players were returning after the World Cup finals and needed a break, whilst new players needed to be integrated into the squad.
Having seen him play, perhaps Emery isn't over-impressed and with Gazidis departing a decision was made with the new administration that he wasn't worth the high wages he was after, even of it means allowing him to run down his contract.

15 Oct 2018 11:52:48
To be fair he's a symbol of our past overpaid underachieving cosy club mentality and it's best for everyone including Aaron to part company and draw a line under what was and look to what can be.
Aaron will join a new club like Ox Theo Jack and Gibbs as player who needs to prove himself at a new club to new set of fans while we can continue to dismantle the cosy club as quickly as possible and get back to being competitive in every department in every game and once again seen as a side to worry about apposed to a soft touch who don't like the physical side of the game but are just happy to look pretty against sides who let us play.

Review Of The Day 15th October 2018

15 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th October 2018

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14 Oct 2018 22:38:05
Can we have a poll asking will Arsenal be better off by keeping or letting Aaron Ramsey go or something along those lines please.

{Ed033's Note -


Aaron Ramsey Poll

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14 Oct 2018 22:56:04
I didn't see an option to fly him to Florida and feed him to the gators, so I just selected the "Let him feck off" option.

14 Oct 2018 23:00:23
Thank you Ed033 mate.

{Ed033's Note - ok

15 Oct 2018 00:05:46
I wouldn't have been able to say this just a few years ago but, Ramsey leaving isn't going to affect us either offensively or defensively, we have two better offensive players in Ozil and Miki at least one better defensively in Torreira plus Xhaka can fill in at a push, then we have Guendouzi and Ainsley Maitland-Niles coming through.
I read over the weekend that it was Sanheli that pulled the contract as one of his first orders of business once he took the new role after Ivan left, if true it would indicate to me that he's had a look at the squad and had a word with Dick and then just told Ramsey's team that they're overplayed their hand.
I'm happy with that.

15 Oct 2018 08:13:00
I think in some ways Aaron is the last of the 4th place trophy generation who actually believed they were among the elite simply because they played champions league football each season rather than be embarrassed by thier failure to get past the last 16 for 8 consecutive seasons.
When he leaves it will draw a line under those who were brought up on just taking part being successful.

14 Oct 2018 14:46:28
Read an article today where Wenger stated that Arsenal have let Ramsey have the upper hand in the contract negotiations, which was amusing coming from him, as during his time at the club many players were allowed to get into a similar position. I do not believe that we should hand Ramsey a 4 year deal at £250,000 per week, costing a total of £52m, for a player that has never convinced and doesn't appear to have the defensive side to his game that is required under Emery. We can easily replace him for £20m, plus wages of say £150,000 pw max. It would be great if we can either sell or part exchange him during the January window.

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14 Oct 2018 15:50:04
Ive got to say, unless i'm missing something, we have decided not to fill his pockets, not the other way round. I don't see how ramsey has the upper hand on arsenal. I've thought these last few years wenger has spoken with fork toungue anyway, i don't think he talks sense anymore.

14 Oct 2018 16:18:38
I'm surprised someone gave Arsene the platform to embarras himself on when it comes to talking about players contracts, those who can do and those who didn't tend to have selective memory.
Ramsey will leave either in January or next summer, I'd prefer January but we may have to wait until next summer, as long as he ain't with us next season I'm happy.

14 Oct 2018 16:21:33
I wonder if united are up for doing any silly swaps again 😂.

14 Oct 2018 16:27:50
Ramsey is in a strong position as he can benefit from any clubs coming in for him not having to pay a transfer fee. This should be reflected in a higher salary and/ or a signing on fee.
I am pleased that after agreeing to pay Ozil an absurd £350,000 a week, we have pulled out of paying Ramsey a reported £250,000 a week. Even in today's inflated market, neither player is worth these absurdly high wages. It also sends a message to other players at the club that there is a limit before we let them go. The new regime have already acted quickly and protected our assets signing deals with players such as; Xhaka, Elneny, Holding, etc.
Of course Ramsey looks gutted as he thought he had agreed a 4 year deal on wages of £250,000 per week. Presumably he and his family are settled in the area, so moving out of the area isn't ideal.

{Ed002's Note - That was not the figure that was agreed with Ramsey.}

14 Oct 2018 16:54:12
What figure was agreed Ed?

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't matter but it was a lot less than what is being quoted.}

14 Oct 2018 17:28:20
When the time comes for him to go I'd be surprised if his new club pay more than 150k a week in wages even though he's on a free.
His availability rate is 50% at best due to his injury record and he turns up in 1/ 5 games with a decent performance when he is available.
I don't think he's in as strong position as he and Arsene might think. Just look at Jack's options despite being available for free, there was a lot of paper talk about who wanted Jack but none of it was real and in the end he had to reinvent himself as a life long Hammers fan to get a club.

14 Oct 2018 18:09:55
Hi Ed002, that was a figure I read, what was the figure?

{Ed002's Note - You should ignore figures you read in the press as it is wrong.}

14 Oct 2018 21:32:39
The papers are so unreliable it makes little sense to take anything they say seriously this time last season Sanchez was a city player in waiting and United weren't even on the radar while not was Mesut who was United bound and Jack going Milan.

14 Oct 2018 23:02:08
For a bunch that wanted the man out, almost every post seems to drag him back in again. It's a shame to see you lot being so dismissive and flippant towards a man that gave over two decades to a club you claim to love. Shocking really.

14 Oct 2018 23:40:15
Few posts actually mention Arsene now days Sharpie mate which is in some ways a shame after so long at the club, but I try my best to respect and remember the brilliance of the first decade as well as accept the reality of the last decade of Arsenes time as our manager when he does get a mention.
Some bare a grudge against Arsene but not me personally I wanted him gone 5 years ago but still respect what he did in that first decade most and let the bad times go.
On the whole Arsene was the best thing that ever happened to us but phew I'm relieved it's over.

15 Oct 2018 00:19:23
In the interview Arsene actually says that was his job to arrange the contracts while he was manager, ironically that is one of the reasons we're in the state we are, his comfy club ruined the squad and took away the aggressive mentality we had.

15 Oct 2018 07:05:51
I supported Wenger whilst he was at the club, apart from the occasional gripe about him on this site. Now he has left, he was great during the first decade, the second decade was painful and all that saved him were the 3 FA Cup wins.
I actually prefer not to hear from him, and wish he would fade into obscurity, as I find him and his comments irritating.
The latest nonsense about Ramsey, that the player has all the power as his contract runs down. Well, that was all down to Wenger and Gazidis. I am pleased to see the back of the pair that oversaw the decline during the last decade. Emery and Co are a breath of fresh air. After a short period at the club, the players are now fitter, stronger, more motivated, happier and determined. The fans are back on board, enjoying the transition under Emery.

15 Oct 2018 08:57:48
RG61, I wholeheartedly stand behind fans that give the current regime their full support. In fact, I think it would be very fickle of fans if they didn't.

My point is, if all it took is someones opinion to irritate you and make you start slating them, I'd be doing it to you about 3 to 4 times a day.

Whatever you think of Arsene, the man shed blood, sweat and tears for our club and deserves more than the annoying digs you sling his way.

15 Oct 2018 09:05:47
It's always sad when an ex manager that struggled themselves trys to tell others where they went or are going wrong.
Arsene should stick to talking about players and international matches where he has no ghosts of his own that peole will automatically come back at him with and make him look silly.

15 Oct 2018 13:08:37
Agree gunner, the worst thing he can do is talk about arsenal things tha he himself failed miserably at. Ramsey is the last of the "british core" he paid a fortune to, when signing them to take the club forward. Not the best thing he has on his CV and not very constructive either.

15 Oct 2018 18:50:58
Agree Steve, I like Arsene as a person very very much and as far as I'm concerned the past is the past, as long as Arsene let's it be of course.
If Boris Johnson questioned someone else's principles or Jose Mourinho questioned someone else publicly criticising their players then people would quite rightly jump on thier own records on those subjects.
There are loads of subjects Arsene could talk about and hold his own quite admirably but contracts defence and others he should stay well clear of or expect some flack from people who just won't play " let's all pretend "

15 Oct 2018 19:11:34
Agree gunner but like maureen and boris, he is always right and everyone else is wrong. Lol.

15 Oct 2018 21:30:33
I'm not making excuses for Arsene but I do think he's easy meat for journalists as although he's a highly intelligent man he does so often lack common sense and can quite easily be lead into to saying something that makes him look silly.
I've never met him but I genuinely believe he's a good man at heart from everything I've ever read or heard about him from those who have met him, Ed001 speaks very highly of him from when he's met him.

Review Of The Day 14th October 2018

14 Oct 2018 07:29:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th October 2018

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