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13 Jul 2018 12:09:32

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If anyone's interested come and see us over on the VIDEO GAMES page (we don't want to clog up the football sites) or drop me an e-mail at with your name, gamertag and what console you play on.
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13 Jul 2018 08:33:59
I'm really surprised by Liverpools interst in Shaqiri just doesn't seem a Klopp type player to me.
Obviously loads of talent but his work ethic is one of the lowest I've seen.
Klopp must have a plan for him but it's certainly not an obvious one to me.

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13 Jul 2018 14:05:25
Depends if klopp can get through to him! Good impact from the bench.

13 Jul 2018 14:51:01
True mate he could be that, I just wouldn't want him in my starting 11.

13 Jul 2018 17:15:03
Nor mine and certainly not in Liverpool’s starting 11. But I’m sure he will be better in a Liverpool shirt than he was in a stoke shirt. And I’m sure klopp will find a way to motivate him. It could turn out a great signing but could equally be a bad signing. At the price I believe it’s worth a punt.

Review Of The Day 13th July 2018

13 Jul 2018 06:25:55
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 13th July 2018

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12 Jul 2018 23:57:21
Who has been watching a few of the training videos? I've seen a few and I do like how the coaches seem to be more involved. Seems like the players are getting coaches a lot more than before. Such as the defenders I've seen being taught basic things which they've failed to do for years.

Also good to hear emery has changed the younger ones in the reserves and below have been told to eat with the first team opposed to in other rooms that's good to hear if true.

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13 Jul 2018 06:02:41
I always have a look on the Arsenal site to see what’s happening and it’s good to see what there up too. The video from the first day back with all the tests they did was something they’ve never shown before.

I see Rene-Adelaide is in the 1st team squad with AMN and the new guy Guendouzi, also note that Nelson, Bielik and Zalalem are all back in the U’23s.

We just have a few to come back from World Cup duty.

13 Jul 2018 08:07:15
More than the signings this is what I'm most excited about, seeing how Dicks training and organisation improves the team especially on the defensive side.
Expecting a huge improvement and no embarrassing performances that involve hiding behind the couch, I'm sure their will be a few surprise unturns in fortune's for some players to like Belerin and Chambers who I think might become popular with fans again by the end of next season and possibly Elneny who with the right coaching could become a really decent player, obviously not a world beater but a dependable premier league regular which I think he has in him.

13 Jul 2018 12:32:14
What videos have you been watching? its all fitness stuff and a few small 6 a sides? Basic training for the defenders? I can't see it bro.

13 Jul 2018 14:09:23
JW, maybe ospina, maybe perez, maybe cambell, maybe jenkinson, maybe welbeck, maybe monreal, maybe mustaffi, maybe ramsey, maybe anyone for various reasons who isn't stopping this summer. We have spent our budget but Dick has said, if a player or two becomes available that he wants, they will buy. They will be funded by sales. He knows before he can buy anyone else, he has to shift players out, which he will.

13 Jul 2018 14:15:45
Sorry above post was a reply to the post further down but you get the gist JW.

13 Jul 2018 14:55:26
I think Aaron will be ofski if the right club comes for him, I just get the feeling he's waiting to see what options he gets elsewhere before tying himself to us which can only mean he's open to the right move for him if it comes along.

13 Jul 2018 18:09:53
Jack I do see what you're saying. But it seems like they're working more on the fitness which is good. And as for only basic things for defenders you watch any of our games over the last 5 plus years and tell me what you think of the basic defending of our team. Its just a refreshing change that there seems to be a more positive vibe around the club.

13 Jul 2018 18:26:59
I agree gunner, why is it taking so long, if he really wanted to stay. There are certainly some misgivings on ramseys side, or he would have signed. It is distinct possibility.

13 Jul 2018 18:57:16
I'd give him a week to decide then decide for him, we don't want him running down his contract for financial reasons obviously but also it's not good to have non committed players around the camp, it did us no favours last season having players hanging around who either wanted out or weren't sure if they did or not.
We only need or have room for those who really want to be here in my opinion.

13 Jul 2018 19:48:44
I don't think it will be allowed to drag on gunner.

13 Jul 2018 20:50:55
Hope not Steve, I hope Dick will be much more in control and take the lead rather than the players making the club dance to thier tune.
Easy answer is sign by a certain date, find a new club or spend a season training with the youths well away from the first team football and see how what does for your career options.
I think the club has to take back control.

14 Jul 2018 09:06:41
Agree with you two. We don't want another contract saga this season. Offer him a decent deal with a deadline then if he doesn't sign look to sell.

12 Jul 2018 20:54:54
So that’s our business done unless a big opportunity comes as the new boss put it, I would have liked a very good winger but we can’t have it all looking forward to see what we are made of.

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12 Jul 2018 21:54:17
Seems that way unless others leave can't see anymore coming in tbh. Emery has addressed hopefully the main weakness in a good DM and a commanding CB in Torrira and Sokratis. May not be the stella exciting signings but important ones that will hopefully make us more solid defensivly, and tbh without being in main champions league we got the best players we could.

12 Jul 2018 23:54:49
I'm a lot more confident about this season. He had addressed the weak areas. Maybe another cb would be nice and a winger but could still happen.

13 Jul 2018 00:53:07
Once we have shifted some players on another one or two will be joining. Maybe three if ramsey leaves.

13 Jul 2018 05:22:19
Not sure if they’ll bring in anyone else Stevie. All the people in the know, including Emery, have said they are done with signings. One player who would be so perfect for this team is Julian Brandt. No clue if Arsenal have shown any interest, no clue how much it would take to pry him away from Leverkusen, not sure Leverkusen would even entertain the idea of selling the lad but he is going to be top class in short order and will be wanted by the big clubs in Europe very soon, If not already.

13 Jul 2018 12:34:44
Yeah, but who's leaving?

13 Jul 2018 17:16:34
I have a feeling at least one attacking player will come.

13 Jul 2018 20:18:06
We definitely haven't finished selling and moving on players and i'm sure we will get one or two more when they have. I think nzonzi and a winger type player at least.

13 Jul 2018 22:02:16
My guess is Ramsey Monreal Mustafi will be elsewhere by the the time the season starts, but it's just a guess.

14 Jul 2018 02:24:16
A big possibility gunner, its all pointing that way.

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12 Jul 2018 20:09:08
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Review Of The Day 12th January 2018

12 Jul 2018 07:05:37
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th January 2018

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11 Jul 2018 22:30:47
It is was it is. We have proven as a team that we can grind out results when we don't really play well. We exceeded my expectations and we should be proud as a nation. I am as frustrated as anyone else but not disheartened. Let's keep these boys together and kick on from here. Gareth Southgate should take a bow. He has been absolute class and shown real respect off the pitch. Maybe the only thing we lacked was a bit of nerve at the end. Fair play to all the players noatter what team they play for it doesn't matter. Hopefully though the city and spuds lads will have a long.layoff now which they thouroughlly deserve and miss the first 36 games of the season as they recuperate. 😀 Well done England. 👍

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11 Jul 2018 23:19:47
You have played two good teams and were beat by both.
Easy group and flattered to deceive.
Not tactically good enough not smart enough.
Oh dear won't have to hear we won the world cup for the next 52 years.

11 Jul 2018 23:42:24
“You” says it all 😴.

{Ed007's Note - The guy's from Belfast, what do you want him to say?}

12 Jul 2018 06:12:00
@Paul from Belfast. If you said to me before the tournament that we would lose in extra time in the semi final I would have snapped your hand off. You can only beat what is in front of you as they say. Unfortunately that goes for Croatia as well. Did we get ahead of ourselves as a nation. yes. But do you honestly believe that the Irish wouldn't either? We lost our first game 1-0 but hardly looked like we tried to win. Last night was just nerves. We did ok all we need to do is learn from it and keep going.

12 Jul 2018 08:23:07
The youngest side in the tournament gets to the semi final, now if that was Brazil Germany France or anyone else then people would be saying how well theyed done and what a positive tournament theyed had, a bit like if Scotland Ireland or Wales made the qualifying play offs and narrowly lost.
The fact that so many Irish Scots and Welsh fans were so relieved last night says just how well England did.
I totally get the rivalry between the British nations but I just don't get English people being happy we lost, why? So they can say I told you so? Really! Now that is sad.

{Ed001's Note - no they would not. All we would have heard about is how easy their progress was and how lucky they were to get to face the easiest route to a World Cup semi-final of all time. No one would have been talking them up. England, as usual, were full of 'we are the greatest' after beating dross. It is embarrassing the arrogance that exudes from the media and public every time England fluke, and I do mean fluke as not creating a decent chance in open play and relying solely on set pieces is not quality play it is relying on luck, a victory. That World Cup was ruined for me because they had English commentary on every game, no matter who was playing, and all they bloody talked about was 1966 and how wonderful the incredibly crap Southgate is. He couldn't make a sub to change a game if his life depended on it. He couldn't get a team to play football or put them in their correct positions or defend against even an exhausted Croatian attack with half their players limping. They played bloody awful percentage football of the kind Sam Allardyce and Jose Mourinho are crucified for but it is ok because they fluked an easy run to the semis. This World Cup has been the lowest in quality terms of any I have ever seen, it has been abysmal and I am so glad it is nearly over.}

12 Jul 2018 09:00:01
Spot on Ed. Would Arsenal fans want Southgate to manage our team?
The tactics were poor, the players poor.
It comes as no surprise that very few, if any English players or managers are employed overseas at top clubs.

12 Jul 2018 09:26:43
I've no idea if over countries had English commentary or not on every game but it's only natural that all games in this country should be broadcast in English and the players and the manager aren't responsible for the media only for themselves and what they do and in my opinion they did the best they could and better than most thought they were capable of.
Yes the draw fell kindly for them and had they had drawn France Brazil Argentina in the last 16 then they probably would have caught the first plane home after the group stages, but they didn't.
How many England teams have struggled to beat easier opposition in previous tournaments but merely strutted their stuff and lived off their premier league reputation.
I thought the first 45 minutes last night the team looked excellent and as good as I've seen from England for years and Kane and Lingard both had first half chances that were created for them.
Yes I personally decided to get on board the optimistic train and enjoy the possibility that we really might make the final and it was fun with people all over the country enjoying our best world cup for 28 years, people were buzzing hoping and getting excited at the possibility of England being in a world cup final, what's wrong with that?
People everywhere were sayng
it's coming home
I think most of us knew there was a real possibility it might well not be (coming home) but we chose to enjoy the ride while it lasted.
I think Gareth Southgate did a fantastic job, is he now a Pep Gardiola? No and never will be but he and his totally written off team did themselves and their country proud, we had a great experience that none of us ever expected to have and if fortune fell our way with the draw? What we're we supposed to do ask fifa for a more difficult route to please the critics.

{Ed001's Note - I really wonder how beer soaked your goggles were that you think that crappy performance in the first half was great. They were getting dominated by half time with no clue how to turn it around. Sorry but this England side was no different than any other, just luckier.}

12 Jul 2018 10:21:38
By City and Barcelona standards our football quality wasn't at the races no question about that but by England standards I thought the first 45 minutes was pretty good and they were the better team, obviously the next 45 they lost their way completely and in extra time they were like a boxer who was out on his feet just trying to hang on, but we've seen a lot lot worse from England teams over the years.
Before the competition started we were mid table championship standard but by the time it ended we were championship promotion contenders, where it goes from here who knows maybe back to square one or maybe we will follow up with a good euro 2020, for me this group of players represented their country to the best of their ability and if they over achieved by getting to the last 4 then surely that's the aim of every team, to be the best you can be and more if possible.
As much some people are going ott about the future all I know is they gave a lot of people a lot of enjoyment they weren't expecting to get this summer and Gareth Southgate and his young team deserve their 5 minutes in the spotlight simply because they did their absolute best for their country, much like an Olympic athlete who gets a totally unexpected bronze.

12 Jul 2018 10:55:04
Ed. we beat Sweden who were narrowly beaten by Germany. The current world champions who weren't at their best admittedly. We beat Colombia who who have recently beaten France we beat a spirited tunisia, we lost to Belgium when we weren't really bothered about the result anyway. Luck is a massive part of the game. Italy and Holland didn't even qualify, nor the likes of Chile. We were in control in the first half last night but our nerves kicked in. It happens to all teams. Why can't people get behind the team and say well done for getting into the semi finals and taking it into extra time?

{Ed001's Note - how were they in control in the first half? I am sorry but that is just bias talking. They were the better side and had England pegged back after the initial shock of going behind. England sneaked past a dreadful Sweden, who has Larsson, who is not good enough for the Championship, as their key man. And how was it done? Set pieces. The team is all about set pieces and offer nothing in open play. They deserved nothing and got nothing.}

12 Jul 2018 11:03:51
Sorry ed07 . I thought Belfast was in England. I only thought that because a mate of mine is from there and he says “we” 😂.

{Ed007's Note - Some of them over there are a pretty strange bunch... and we'll just leave it at that I think :)

12 Jul 2018 12:23:25
Have to say spot on ed01, it truly has been embarrassing, the total over hyping of this team has been unreal. Describing Loftus-Cheek as a world beater did it for me.

6 shots on target in 10 hours of football says it all. It’s not a case of I told you so it’s what happened.

Panama, Columbia and Sweden was our limit. 🙄

Now let’s get on with the new season. 😁.

{Ed001's Note - I just don't get it mate. Maybe it is because I am living abroad so not being force fed crap by the media, but I just do not see why people were so excited.}

12 Jul 2018 12:47:38
What's wrong with using set pieces?
Surely you play to your strengths who ever you are
This England team is not the new Brazil 1970 or the new Holland 74 and 78 and they are not even the new Germany 2014, they are a bunch of you lads who gave thier best for their country, no one is saying they were the best team ever playing the best football ever but just representing their country to the best of thier personal abilities .
I fail to see what is wrong with that or people back home buying into their efforts and enjoying a tournament for a very nice change, what is so wrong with a wave of optimism fun and enjoyment sweeping the nation? It made a very very welcome break from hearing about Brexit 24/ 7.
These England players and manager gave it their best and yes there were failings and short comings within the side that were plain to see all the way through the competition but last I heard they never claimed to be perfect, they never said they were brilliant they just lived every school boys dream of playing for their country in a world cup and got close to the ultimate achievement of representing their country in a world cup final.
I just can't see why people want to knock them or the fans for dreaming of what looked impossible 3 weeks ago when they got so close.
If having a bit of luck along the way was outlawed then every team that ever achieved anything would be deleted from the history books, especially in knock out competitions.

12 Jul 2018 12:54:27
Haha lol ed07. I’m sure there is mate 😂.

{Ed007's Note - Have you ever been? It's like stepping through a time warp in some places.}

12 Jul 2018 14:59:33
Getting to the semis is great. 2 wins 2 loses and a draw against mostly average sides, not so good. Typical england finals results really.

12 Jul 2018 15:02:55
I haven’t mate. My dad was posted there and did a few tours in the 70’s and said it was the only time he was ever genuinely scared of anything.

{Ed007's Note - It's a lot better than back then and is actually a lovely city to visit - except in July.}

12 Jul 2018 17:29:05
Steve Surely they had 3 2 draws and 1 defeat or 4 and 2 defeats unless you want to call the Colombia game a draw but if you do that surely then so was the Croatia game a draw too so 3 wins 2 draws I defeat because they played 6 games mate.
You can insist the Colombia game was a draw because of penalties but the Croatia game wasnt because it didn't go to penalties in order to paint the darkest picture possible i suppose if that's what makes you happy I suppose.
What if they win Saturday? Will that be a nothing game :-) but should they lose it should definitely be counted in the against column I guess?

12 Jul 2018 18:21:31
Gunner its not about painting a picture, its about putting things into perspective. They got to the semis but they weren't that impressive or good. We scored most of our goals from set pieces and we let in goals every game. We never looked convincing at all, we had a few good periods but that was it. People are jumping on the media hype band wagon. Sorry for having an opinion that isn't media fuelled.

12 Jul 2018 18:54:10
I'm not asking you to have an opinion that is media fuelled mate just to the young lads a bit of slack, they were not the best team at the start or at the finish but they did much better than anyone thought they would plus they enjoyed it and on the whole the country enjoyed it, there was a feel good atmosphere for a couple of weeks that most people football fans or not bought into, people put their day to day troubles aside for a bit and dared to dream and I see nothing but good about that.
To make the final would have been a brilliant occasion for the country and I'm sure there would have been Street parties that went into and beyond the night, sadly it wasn't to be but they gave their all trying to make it happen and deserve credit for doing so.
No high profile wags no circus just young lads doing their best for everyone both in Russia and back home.

12 Jul 2018 19:03:26
Surely they lost to belgiam and croatia and drew with columbia.

12 Jul 2018 19:20:21
Ed001 I agree with all that you said there especially the part about not being able to make a sub and change things.

{Ed001's Note - that was what cost England last night. Modric, Rakitic et al were out on their feet before extra time, but he had no idea what to do to take advantage.}

12 Jul 2018 19:21:30
Bond July is a great month in Belfast if your a bit mad in the head😀.

{Ed007's Note - Well that's one way of putting it I suppose.}

11 Jul 2018 22:08:21
Still proud of the boys.

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11 Jul 2018 22:17:19
Me too mate, they gave all THEY had to give, maybe others had and have more but you can't give more than YOUR all.
Germany in 2010 took a young team and lost in the semi final then 2014 that same team became champions, it's all positive even if disappointing.

11 Jul 2018 22:40:04
Yes, regardless they got to the semis of a world cup. But no cigar.

11 Jul 2018 23:10:26
You sound almost pleased Steve?
You need to take a look at yourself Geeza.

12 Jul 2018 00:44:11
Its called realism gunner, i have no need to look at myself.

12 Jul 2018 08:08:32
Last season I said Arsenal would finish 5th to 7th Steve and that turned out to be realistic but had we finished 2nd 3ptd behind City then I would have been wrong plain and simple.
This summer I thought England would be last 16 also rans before the competition stated but that turned out to be totally wrong because they were 45 minutes from the world cup final it's self.
I prefer realism to pretend rose tinted optimism based on nothing but wishful thinking but sometimes we all get it wrong mate and 3 weeks ago me you and many others underestimated this England team and this England manager and trying to deny that did the courty proud by getting within 45 minutes of the final isn't realistic it's simply stubbornly refusing to be wrong.

12 Jul 2018 12:56:30
You two having a tiff 😀 that’s my boy g62 your fully back on team optimism and ready to slay the pessimistic dark lord steve 😂.

12 Jul 2018 14:55:34
Gunnee, i have never under estimated or over estimated this england team. They got to the semi finals, which in the books looks great. They haven't really pulled any trees up with their performances. The hype over them has been rediculous. They won't ever have an easier route to win the thing than this year. I just don't get embroiled in the hype, that we played fantastic and have moved forward in our performances. I thought the whole time the papers and media have over hyped what really went on.

12 Jul 2018 17:11:33
Sorry sausage fingers, gunner.

12 Jul 2018 19:49:15
Steve I don't care about the papers mate i just go with my own eyes ears and mind, the manager isn't the best but did his best, the players aren't the bast but did their best and the public responded to both and got behind them because they accepted they weren't the best or most talented but rejected they were giving it their best.
Personally I don't know what more people can do than that and I don't need sky or any news paper to make respect anyone who gives 100%.

12 Jul 2018 20:00:10
Agree gunner, i think they all gave 100% and great to them but as far as performance goes, it was pretty average. But like we all say the hisory book will show they got to the semi final. I like what southgate did, got rid of the old guard but the new guard are lacking for me but they are young.

12 Jul 2018 21:48:28
They are young mate and who knows where they will all be in 2 years let alone 4 years time
Danny Sturridge had a great 2014 with Liverpool and went into Brazil 2014 as the main man up front who would have thought 4 years on he would be out on a limb loaned out and struggling with WBA.
Some of this 23 man squad will fade away some others will let it go to their heads and think they are kings but hopefully some will kick on and along with some of the England world and European champions at under 17 19 and 20 make it to euro 2020 and Qatar 2022 with their feet still on the ground and maybe just maybe go one better than the class of 2018 and make the final it self.
We are in much better shape than when we left Brazil and France and once more the public are on their side and that alone is something I didn't expect from Russia 2018 for us and has to be a huge plus for the players and manager.

11 Jul 2018 21:51:20
Englands coming home!

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11 Jul 2018 22:10:22
You are English - right?

I am more annoyed than you. So annoyed. Angry at the team as Croatia were not a tough team and we could have seen England in a World Cup final - a final.

That and Federer got knocked out - shite sports day, just plane shite.

11 Jul 2018 22:10:58
Yep to many spuds in the team.

11 Jul 2018 22:23:42
Still can’t believe people thought they might win it. Never going to happen and on the bright side after some of their thick as mince fans bragged about how many spuds were still at the World Cup, they’re now all knackered, injured and deeply depressed.

Now that’s a result. 😂.

11 Jul 2018 22:33:54
Yes Sy i am but i have my feet firmly in the ground. Lol.

11 Jul 2018 22:49:24
I don't see spuds and Mancs when it comes to England, I see English men representing their country.
Players change clubs but nationality is permanent.
I thought Deli Ali was excellent tonight and Walker in my opinion was immense Kane worked hard for the team but wasn't great, they gave thier all for their country, what more could they do.

11 Jul 2018 23:09:29
Kane could have and should have scored

Agree with Walker statement

Not sure nationalities don’t change - Arteta could have played for England when he was with us and was Guggs Welsh and Greg the Canadian sorry British tennis player.

I get your point but some pick and choose their nationalities. Birth place should be the rule

I thought Senegal was in France - Vierra.

11 Jul 2018 23:28:51
Sterling is from Jamaica while in prior years

Other England players born outside the UK include Sky Sports pundit John Salako (Nigeria) , Owen Hargreaves (Canada) , John Barnes (Jamaica) , Cyrille Regis (French Guiana) , Brian Stein (South Africa) , Tony Dorigo (Australia) , Luther Blissett (Jamaica) and Terry Butcher (Singapore) .

You can elect to be English and I am sure nations fight over players.

11 Jul 2018 23:50:18
True SY it is possible for the tiny minority to chose their nationality but once chosen it's extremely rare for it to change.
I'm born English and wouldn't want to change that but I'm sure I would feel the same where ever I was born or bright up at least.
If i was born in Britain but moved to say Portugal when you were a year old I'm sure I'd feel Portuguese and want to play for Portugal.


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