Arsenal Rumours Archive May 10 2012

10 May 2012 18:53:30
Hi guys, I just posting this as a question really, I've heard from various sources, be it media, friends, people etc about the players we're having a crack at signing, of course there's been M'villa and Vertonghen mentioned and other less prominent ones like Hoilett, suarez and Biglia, but there's three that I've had mentioned to me that were a little shock to me, but after I thought about it, they do fit into our game, I just can't for love nor money see 2 of them being wenger buys though:

One is Renato Augusto, 23 year old Bayer Leverkusen play maker, very talented passer and has a good shot on him, he's not slow but won't be beating quicker players with pace, but with guile. They'd probably want in excess of £15m for him.

The second is Josep ilicic, he plays for Palermo and is....22? 23? He's a big lad, I think he's 6"2, 6"3, he's of Slovenian descent, he can play as a attacking mid or a second striker, we've actually been linked before but he's had a good season and Palermo apparently won't even entertain less than 22m for him, especially as Chelski are now keen on him.

The final one is the second Brazilian on the list and the most likely of these three I'd imagine, Shaktar Donetsk's Douglas Costa.
The kid is 20-22 and we've been linked when he was at gremio, then when he moved to Shaktar we apparently offered cash plus denilson as they have a very strong Brazilian contingent, but they want cash only although they have said they'd sell for the right price (believed to be about £16m) he's incredibly talented, he can shoot, pass, is incredibly fast and can play on the left but is best as an attacking mid. I'd take him like a shot.

So that's the recent ramblings I have to offer you guys, thoughts and things you've heard, would be appreciated

D

I'm pretty sure we have been linked with Renato Augusto in the past. (Ed?)

Kermit79 {Ed027's Note - Yes we have

Yeah an vaguely with Costa last summer I think?

I look forward to checking the other players out.

Raz

Shame axel witsel went to benfica..could have been a good purchase.

Would be amazing to get douglas costa

10 May 2012 18:06:47
Adler signs for hamburg! Quality player missed out on {Ed002's Note - Not a surprise and not missed out on unless you are a Spurs or Schalke fan.}

10 May 2012 16:39:39
Wenger on M'Villa:

"It is not true. There is not any interest at the moment," said Wenger.

"We have not been in touch with anybody, we have not made any offer to anybody and we are nowhere near to buying anybody at the moment.

Never what we want to hear.

R.O.B

Isn't that similar to what he said about podolski?

Isnt that what he always says when hes up to something ?

Do not believe a word of it mate. This is what Wenger does. He gets his sneak on and he comes out with ridiculous statements like this as though the whole world is retarded except him. We placed a 25m big last summer according to Wenger himself so why we'd suddenly not be interested I have no idea.

Either way, this is what he does. Pay no attention.

Oh yeah meant to say if anything it's part of the plan to keep other teams away. Because other teams love to come along and ruin our deals. They know if we land our targets then we are a force to be reckoned with, and they realise we initially only go for TOP targets, so if we want M'Vila, everyone else wants M'Vila....

Yes he said that, but afterwards he apparently had a wry smile on his face. Said/did the same thing around the time the Podolski signing was rumoured. It's a classic Wenger move.

Ty

Plenty of other clubs want him, regardless of us wanting him or not. The only question is, will we snooze and lose, or actually buy him.

The only managers that come and openly say they are chasing certain players are those that are extremely confident that they can outbid ,overpay or offer cl football so until a player is signed you dont show your hand. {Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

11 May 2012 12:33:24
But even if AW says that the deal is off, it does not mean that it is true.

Remember this situation?:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-have-not-agreed-arshavin-fee LOOK AT THE DATE

10 May 2012 14:34:50
finally all this hype about vertonghen has calm down watch guys his future will be put in place after sunday he want to play champions league ajax is already in that so sunday crucial for the teams battling for 3rd and 4th when it comes to getting singings

Might be after C/L final if ourselves and Spuds are 3rd and 4th.

10 May 2012 11:20:10
I honestly cannot see Vertonghen going to spurs. he is close friends with vermaelen so why on earth would he choose to go to spurs, his greatest rival

Don't think that'll stop him TBH

Ramsey & Bale were/are close friends too when their transfers were happening. We had interest in Bale as well but he chose Sp*uds.

And Bale was a huge Arsenal fan as well

Guys these are the world's most professional players. They don't decide their futures based on childish things like someone they know playing for a rival team. They do what they think is best for their career. Vert wouldn't choose us over another club because of Vermaelen.

^^^^ someone with common sense

I think he would choose us because he knows we are the better team in london and we showed him that against ac milain and spuds 5-3. The fact that they are friends is just a bonus! for us hopefully

-Homesick-

10 May 2012 10:55:06
Lots of speculation again this summer and will continue right up to the end of August (love 31st August with all the last minute deals and speculations)

On the RVP we're vulnerable when it comes to him.
1. Out of the top strikers in the world how many would be available for the amount of money it would cost to buy him, maybe because of his age and history of injuries and the 1 year left on his contract.

Sure if he wasn't an Arsenal player Wenger would be sniffing around this sort of situation.

Just can't believe we keep letting are players run their contracts down to 1 year before we want to start negotiating a new one.

10 May 2012 10:05:54
Great point made by Le Grove on walcott

"There is also no movement on the Theo Walcott situation. To be honest, if we replaced him with Hoilett we'd probably be upgrading anyway. Theo has managed 9 goals and 11 assists playing at a team in 3rd place with the hottest striker on the planet. Hoilett, in 10 less games for one of the worst sides in the league has managed 6 assists and 7 goals. If we land him on a free and sell Theo for £18million, we'd be doing a grand bit of player switchery."

Not a great point at all as Walcott is one of our main attacking threats. I would sign Hoilett but to supplment him not replace him. I believe Walcott will have a great season next year and could shine at the Euros.

As with all these situations who is to say Hoilett could handle playing at a big club. would you sign Holt just because he has good figures at Norwich.
i would keep Theo (underrated at AFC) and sign Hoilett as Theos replacment

"Great point made by Le Grove". Paradox :)

Have to say I agree with Le Grove on this one! Theo is incredibly wasteful. People look at his stats and say 'but he's better' when they barely paint the whole picture. If we had a better football player as winger you could expect to see a massive improvement on those stats. The way we play allows Theo so much time on the ball yet he achieves so little with. Hoilett has impressed in almost every game he's played, I feel if it was him or another winger in Theo's place, one who could hold the ball, beat players and score from more than 1 angle including from range like Hoilett loves to then we'd see way better stats. I wish we'd sell Theo and get a winger we can depend on.

But theo is wenger's love child. he wouldnt part with him? surely not!

Sigh, theo's stats make him one of the most productive wingers in the country.

09 May 2012 20:35:37
ed whats this about that arsenal have dropped there interest in vertonghen and are now going for pphil jagieka is it a tactic to show ajax that were not messing around {Ed002's Note - Somehow that one passed me by.}

The person who started that rumour on twitter did it as a joke to see if the media would pick up on it.

10 May 2012 06:10:22
Darren Lewis of the Mirror reckons we will not only defo get M'Vila but a certain Gotze also !any thoughts Ed? {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath over Goetze.}

Ed002 = Utd supporter {Ed002's Note - Why would you think that? You want to give the best information I have or do you want me to lie to you - Goetze and Hazard are moving to Arsenal. Feel better?}

Haha plus hazard and ronaldo? Dortmund may lose Kagawa to man u, no way will they let gotze go when he just signed an extension.

He just signed a new new contract till 2016 and Dortmund are tearing up the Budesliga and I wouldn't be surprised to see them tear up the Champions League next year after gaining the experience of this year. He has no reason to leave Dortmund.

G95

Finally someone from EPL supporting another team KEEPING a player. Gotze played very little in second half of season (Dortmund) so strange all the renewed 'selling' to all these clubs... Worried about euros and the price going up maybe. Hard to understand why anyone would leave Dortmund now. Frustrating to like the for sale team. BVB!

Hazard is not moving next season. We talked to his representatives in january and we were told then that he wont move.. So forget gotze. All that s**t by journos should not be taken seriously.

10 May 2012 00:28:20
with this spurs saga and vetonghen that have offer the player more positive . 1st team football ,higher wages then arsenal have the reason why arsenal are in the picture arsenal has offers more money to the club vertonghen still dont mind the move to arsenal but needs to be guranteed 1st team football so both teams at a holt ajax want money players wants 1 team football and the wages which confuses me a lil

This post confuses me.

If you are going to place posts. please sort your grammer out. as a result of poor grammer. I have no idea what your on about!!

Ditto....im confused by this post?

09 May 2012 23:35:42
Just having a look at expiring contracts in all top leagues and i can see quality players at the end of there contract that could be usefull to us.

England:
Berbatov-plays at backup at utd but still is a goal scorer but can be lazy
Hoilett= young cheap as payin compo but in the right mould
Gordon-as a back-up keeper
Brad guzan-as a back-up keeper
Spain:
Maduro- can play various postions along the back four and def mid
Khouma Babacar- young striker with alot of potential
Germany:
Adler- would give shez a massive push all the way
Barnetta- good attacking minded player coming into his prime


8 gd players costing next to nothing as hoilett would come with a price, that can improve the squad and we can make a step in the right direction. im not saying sign all of them but possibly up to 3 of them. i would personally take: hoilett,adler and maduro

Fergie has already said that Man U would take out the 1 year option in Berbatovs contract so he isnt on a free. Gordan has been injured on and off for the last 3 years - not a reliable back up as he is never available. Guzan is rubbish... The others are fair shouts!