Arsenal Rumours Archive December 13 2012

 

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13 Dec 2012 19:01:36
I have on good authority, that Wenger has touched base with French super-agent Constantin Dumitrascu; to source players for him in Jan.

DC covers lots of the players we have been linked with in the past, as well as the Ox.


Wenger is asking to help to get players in 2 positions, Striker or AM and a Defensive player (DM or versetile defender).

DC represents the following names which are very realistic:

Attacker:
Llorente
Isco
Ben Arfa
Sofiane Feghouli
Christian Tello
Adrian
Ganso

Defensive Player:
Moussa Sissoko
Ettienne Capoue


It should be noted that he also covers Cavani, although that is a pipedream.

Could be some exciting news!!

Billybob

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While capoue is first choice, moussa sissoko's contract expires in June and so he could come in for just 5-6mln. Steal.

Billybob

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13 Dec 2012 22:36:47
Ben Arfa....is likely and offers much needed quality regarding passing into the box......Ettienne Capoue has just extended his contract,but offers that much needed steel.....Llorente is nearly out of contract and is not even getting a game at Athletico.....Free agent or very little on his contract is right up Wengers street.....interesting post mate......how did you come across this info,if at all true ?....km......................p.s....Ben Arfa wouldnt come cheap due to Mike Ashleys previous dealing with Andy carroll......Ashley is David deins neighbour....he brought the late record producer mickey most old house.....not thats anything to do with Arsenal.....

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Fandabbydoozy.... Just always wanted to see what that word looked like written down!

Hackney Gooner

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Adrian is now managed by Jorge Mendez... He changed back in May. Just pointing that out

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The info is from a decent source in gent circles.

I was not aware of the Adrian Lopez change - do not know if that affects our interest in him. CD knows Wenger well, and I am confident we can get players.

Capoue will be unlikely, I think moussa sissoko is much more probable assuming we can beat out Newcastle.

On the attacker front, Wenger will not pay over the odds, so isco may be a tough one to get.

Llorente seems possible (although personally, I would not be jumping up and down here).

Billybob

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Probably lining up players for his new club because there is no chance of anybody of any quality joining us.

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Disagree.

We offer access to the most watched league, champions league

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'Gent circles'? What is that? Some kind of soggy biscuit group?

Stezza.

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Agent circles. LOL

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You know none of this to be true.

do you think people are stupid?

that's a sad way of making up the club has got a plan!

what a load of drivel.

champagne charlie


{Ed002's Note - As a note, Tello is signing a new contract on Monday.}

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13 Dec 2012 20:29:51
Wenger is confused we all are confused. I think we needed the result and will respond in the next few games and show incoming players we mean business.

Wenger should stay but need a David Dein person which has been the missing part of the puzzle for so long.

who would be a candidate i am not sure, any suggustion. also bring in wrighty as coach.

Rog da Dodge

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Do not bring weighty as coach...please

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13 Dec 2012 22:48:41
Dein was instrumental in bringing both Bergkamp(first superstar player for years) and sol campbell(first £100,000 per week player in the clubs history due to his Bosman)......the man has had a season ticket for over 35 years plus.....Arsenal through and through......he had ambitions for this club and remaind good friends with Wenger and regularly dines with him in north London where they both live.....km

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We definitely need Dein back, Usmanov, Dein's son & Mourinho.
Wrighty like Adams was a great player, but as a coach or manager, no thanks.

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So let start a campign, surely this would force the board to reshuffle and react

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You dont need suggestions you said David Dein already. I say bring him back and get rid of the American halfwit.

Uzbek billionaire, David Dein and Wenger is the way forward. If things done change then Pep in

Rob

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Ian Wright was on Goals on Sunday about a month ago (along with Edgar Davids). Kammy asked Wright if he wanted a coaching role at Arsenal and he said something along the lines of ...he's always open to the idea of helping Arsenal in some capacity. Although when quizzed about becoming a manager he said he didn't think so, he also didn't think he wanted to become a coach although he is enjoying time at MK Dons. All in all, Wrighty ain't FIFA badged up yet and therefore very unlikely to ever get any top coaching job. BTW I do like the idea of having a loud mouth round the club to maybe whip up some passion and desire.

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David Moyes, he has always done a good job at Everton with a little budget. he will be a great replacement as his teams are hard to beat and play good attractive football.

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13 Dec 2012 18:31:00
Does anyone else believe, like me, that Theo has already been 'signed' by another club ... a bit like RVP....
I am sure that when he leaves he will like RVP and others trot out all the old BS about the reasons but basically he will be filling his pockets
and like RVP he has only fulfilled his potential for a very short period through injuries etc
Theo never attends any of the contract talks apparently so I believe he is 'on his way' ..... SO WHAT he isn't Thierry or CESC or RVP... two a penny player

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13 Dec 2012 19:51:20
Let him go....I wouldn't pay him 100k a week....inconsistent,technically inept,never uses his major attribute which is his pace.... But always ready to talk to the media.....and as for his book,does it have more than 11 pages......km

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Rvp is leading goal scorer, in 1st place, is a starter. To be honest he's got the best of everything going for him. So can we get off this case of jealously.

The more an more I watch us draw or lose games we should be winning, the more I'm starting to understand everyone's point of view for leaving to a better team(besides a pay check). There's something internal that's happening an the senior players know of this and want out. Sad times.

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I believe 100% that he is gone.

Metal Gooner

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I think he was gone when RvP left. They had a great on pitch rapport, and it must be rubbish to see a quality attacking partner leave.

Walcott will be a great buy for whoever gets him. Great pace and a great finisher. Arsenal will regret losing him.

It seems crazy that you took a huge risk on him when he was 18 and paid £9 million. You've put up with poor performances for years and now he has become quality you are ready to let him leave (either on a free or on a low buyout). Crazy.

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I think he has gone as well, but i wish we took the same stance with RVP and let Theo go in the summer

MB

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While I agree he has probably gone I do not understand the hatred toward Theo.
For me Theo is easily one of our best 3 players with Cazorla and Wilshere. When he plays he creates goals and scores in a teram that has struggled massively this season to create anything. Arsenal fans who want Theo gone need to realsie without him we would be around 14th this season already. We should have given him his £100k a week as it would mean only around £1m more in wages. We could then ask for around £25m for the player if we were to sell him, instead he will probably go for under £10m now.
Bad business and worse to lose another one of our good players to our competition.
Chess

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13 Dec 2012 18:27:12
Not a new rumour but further development re: Wengers interest in signing Downing.
Walcott will not be signing a new contract at Arsenal and Liverpool want to sign him in January. Looks like a deal involving Downing coming to arsenal is being discussed

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I sincerely hope Downing isn't an option he is woeful

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This is looking very likely at the moment. Both partys are welcoming the move

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Absolute rubbish ................ must be a Liverpool supporter........desperate

MB

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I would rather play Bendtner on the wing than sign Downing. The guy got no assists or goasl for a whole season. He is a joke of a player. If our aim is to make our competition better and us worse then do this deal. Wenger must be r******* if he thinks this is a smart move.
Chess

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OMG, Downing, Gervinho and Ramsey all in the team - laughing stock!

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BAAA ha
Thats the funniest BS i've read in a long time.

IF and its a big IF Wenger is in for a swap it'll be Sterling, he's after youth with potential not a proven aging waster.

Rob

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13 Dec 2012 18:22:30
Can't understand why Arsene didn't sign berbatov when rvp went to Man Utd- better player than most of the players we keep getting linked with... and bought Giroud with view to coming on over a year or so

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13 Dec 2012 19:58:45
Been saying the same the same thing....cost utd 31m

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Too old and too much wages wenger said plus we bartered hard for the £24m we got for rvp. throwing berbatov into the mix would have meant the extra dollar return would have been low

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13 Dec 2012 22:59:43
Rubbish....he aint too old....doesnt rely on pace but his technical ability,good touch,awareness and a fine finisher......and i bet he is on less that 52k nick....

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Wenger said, in a post match interview not so long ago, that he was unaware of Berbatov's availability.
An admission I find quite shocking, seeing as even I knew he was unhappy at man u and was seeking a move.

KasDaGunner

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13 Dec 2012 18:21:17
If theo is so crap then why is it utd, city, chelski all want him?

All you arsenal fans that think there is nothing wrong need to get ur heads out ur arsens.. There is something very wrong.

What happened when barca and chelsea and real wanted bale? Levy came out and said no way! Why?

Why didnt anybody say that with song, cesc, rvp and all the others we have let go for no reason and not replaced!

I am seriously fed up with ALL off the backroom staff..
Every one if them needs to go and we are the only ones who has the power to do it..

To me the state of arsenal is becoming alot like the state of the UK right now..
Everyones moaning and unhappy but aint willing to do sweet F A about it..

It WILL get worse before it gets better, i just hope its sooner rather than later..

V

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1. Cesc threatened to go on strike if he didn't go back to Barca.
2. Most people wanted Song to go as he neglected his defensive duties.
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And who is in charge of all of this ...Wenger

MB

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Actually, the man in charge is Kronke.


Why dont you go to the match on Monday with a massive banner asking the American to leave. Once he goes the uzbek will be in and then all the changes you are looking for will happen. You will get plenty of help.

Rob

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13 Dec 2012 17:13:23
I don't get it. Why are still so many guys supporting Wenger? He's making so many mistakes. Playing Gervinho on the wing is a crime. Playing him as a central striker is... well, what is it? Madness I'd say. I knew why I did not join the hype when he had some good games...

And how was Gervinho allowed to play until the end? Podolski substituted?

I wonder if Bould doesn't have the guts to tell Wenger he's doing something wrong BIG TIME.

Well and Ramsey... I supported him last season but as much as I like him, we are doing better without him. It's a pity the injury affected him so much. Maybe he will come good with time passing by. But we don't have any time left. We need top performances now almost every week. At least we need the points.

But I hope we don't have to cheat to do so. Otherwise I'd rather see us lose and "enjoy" our crisis.


Stefan

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I think the criticism of Ramsey has been a bit harsh at times. I'm not saying he's playing great, far from it, but he's being played on the right-wing a lot this season instead of in a more central position where he's a lot more effective.

Who knows why Wenger thinks he's good on the right-wing.

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Did you watch the game?!

Yes Gervinho had a bad game again, he fluffed our best chance and than sunk away in embarrassment. Thing is who else did you see have a chance in that box?
Where was Podolski that much did he have a significant touch?

Who actually got any ball's into the box? Most were from Gervinho where if Eisfield or Giroud could have got on the end or Ox and chamakh should have been trying to get to.
Several times he put it pretty much on the penalty spot and no afc player in 10m's.

Not saying he is amazing but better than Poldi and Ox (who didn't manage one gd cross let alone a shot) that day.

And Ramsey's injury isn't affecting him it's his confidence, and lack of speed to his play due to. Probably played up at rw so he doesn't just pass sideways which happend to the last confidence loss of a midfield boo boy Denilson.

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13 Dec 2012 17:12:19
Out of curiousity when was the last time Arsenal shareholders were paid dividens?

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Never have- but several made a fortune selling their shares

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13 Dec 2012 15:33:26
Wilshere and ramsey on the verge of signing new long term contracts.

Billybob

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What is going on - Ramsey getting a new contract and Walcott not. It is an absolute joke!

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Not Ramsey :-(

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Ramsey :/

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Hopefully that'll put Ramsey's price up then we can sell him!

Personally I'd accept 7 million for him.

Sally

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OMG not Ramsey, what the hell does he see in him or maybe sign a new contract, then sell on....HOPE so, bloody Rubbish since injury....

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I think there is more to the Walcott situation than we are being told.

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Walcott doesn't want to sign a new contract. He has been offered one by the club but he wants to leave

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I think Ramsey is wingers love child.

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Ramsey?? Seriously!?? wow -_-

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13 Dec 2012 14:16:29
The deals that are under way/agreed are:
Reina
Nani, with Walcott going the other way, plus an adjustment
Henry on loan

Offers will be placed for:
Fellaini
A striker will be bought.

These were the names given to me, leaked from a very reliable source, who told me when Wenger & Sol Campbell were arriving.

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I personally hope that elements are true (Fellaini) and others not true (Walcott/Nani/Reina).

Reina offers nothing more than Schezney and will cost an absorbatant amount of money and wages.
Nani seems to have an ego and his wages are out of kilter with the rest of the players. He also blows hot and cold. I would be giving the Walcott some more money. I can imagine Walcott being annoyed as the teams top scorer having parties that are not starters on more wages than him.

We shall see.

Kermit79

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13 Dec 2012 15:48:49
And a partridge in a pear tree....rubbish

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Presume you were talking to nani's and reina's agent, no way are they coming to AFC.

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13 Dec 2012 13:28:43
Ed, so that I can stop day-dreaming how impossible would it be to sign Jovetic.

Assuming we were actually willing to spend 25mln on a player... (which we aren't).

In a perfect world chamakh going the other way (bendtner too - you know for fun...)

hehe, should I completely give up? {Ed001's Note - I would, it is likely he would cost in excess of 25m anyway, probably more like 30.}

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Sigh -

"Snap back to reality, Oh there goes gravity"

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13 Dec 2012 13:13:38
I have always been the one stating that if we replace Wenger then we could go the way of Liverpool (though Brendan Rodgers is good and think will make a difference in time).

Always said that come 2014 we will be competing financially and therefore the quality on the pitch will improve.

However this hinges on a top 4 finish from both a revenue and player attraction perspective. Think we very well may sneak it however there is a real risk we will not come good.....

Wenger's philisophy hinges on attracting players with both pace and strong technical ability allowing them to cycle the ball quickly. With injuries and the lack of playing staff that hold these qualities (not actually just bad players) we are suffering.

Walcott, Podoloski, Giroud to name a few players with fantastic qualities who actually would suit counter-attacking riposte early Wenger style of play rather than this poor man's tika-taka bs we have now.

Last season we had Song to break up the play and basically launch kick counters from the back. He created space (sometimes losing the ball!) which gave our team options. We did not replace him OR EVEN NEED TO SELL HIM!

I just want some CHANGE...... I'm BORED OF THE SAME OLD PROBLEMS.......

If that means a new manager..... New backroom staff or just some world class signings then I would be happier than I am now.

Every person here would support Wenger if we were winning. I would support anyone who gave us that back.

Before we would dominate and lose and I could cope BECAUSE I WAS PROUD OF THE WAY WE PLAYED.... Not even that anymore.

The malaise in the club needs to be addressed soon.

Hackney Gooner

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Why can you not support a team when it is not playing well? You know they probably need it more then right?

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Blah..... So tired of people writing same thing in slightly different ways: new manager, spend more money. Get a dose of reality people and think for a second. Wenger isn't imposing the club's wage structure etc it's kronkee, just look at what bracewell smith tweeted. Wenger cares massively for club, he could of had world on a plate at real if he wanted, he chose us. Who would do better under circumstance? Go read what Ian holloway said in mirror on that topic for example.

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The fact is that the frustrations is real. I am not saying 'new manager', 'new board' or even 'new players' just that it needs to be acknowledged that change is needed.

Once this is done then the problems themselves can be worked on. Or at least we can see them being corrected. The level of engagement at this club with it's fanbase is actually better than many but the message provided was not actioned. For example 'we have money to spend' then nort spending money.

This leads to a disconnect that turns to anger very quickly when the results change.

The reason you are seeing similar themes / threads is because the majority of fans want some level of change. I am sure that you do as well on whatever level that would be.

In terms of supporting a team. I love the club and it hurts when it is not performing. If you read the above I was saying when we played well and lost I was still engaged. Angry because I care.

Hackney Gooner

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13 dec 2012 11:26:30
after everything that happened can any 1 tell me why the club have not said theo walcott has signed a new contract?

do not believe hes injured.

do you not think there is something wrong at arsenal?

champagne charlie

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Why haven't they said that... because its not true...

Would you like them to lie about it?

Billybob

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There is no way he is injured it's quite simple. there not playing him because he will be leaving FACT.

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Walcott clearly wanted to see how things faired after his mate RVP departed. He isnt going to sign & I believe the current convenient calf injured means a deal has been agreed, I would love to think we are getting Nani in exchange, but its gone very quiet on Zaha, which may mean a deal has been agreed. I would also like to think that Djourou's absence indicates his departure & M'Biwa would be a quality replacement.

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And you know this because you work there in the physio department or press relations?

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Any player that has not signed a new contract with less than 7months left is not going to sign.......AFC have left it too late, and Theos demands are not even that steep, especially if we think Santos, Chimake and Gervinho are worth 65K a week

MB

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Why do you think that there's "no way" he's injured? The conspiracy theories could well be true, more ludicrous ideas have been given credence after all, but it's not as if Theo's never been injured before.

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A contract can always be renewed at any point...technically this is always possible...A club has to work based on their own valuation model of the players in comparison with the market...this also involves looking at the player's stats, sustainability etc...Theo has only really started producing last season so you can understand the club's reticence in making him one of the highest paid (at 100K) ...if he signs his next contract he will be asking for 120/150k+ ...is he really worth that much ask yourself that question without leveraging on the fact that we are in a desperate situation (not many forwards in the team with his 'penetrability' )? our desperation due to the dearth in quality of forwards in the team has inflated Theo's price (his asking price that is)...

It is a tricky situation but in the end I think due to our circumstance...we should bend over and give him his 85-90K/week and some starting roles as a forward..cant be any more average than what we have at the moment with GVinho!

ES

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They make me so angry, GAZIDIS saying he knows what the fans want, his exact words are: 'the fans agree with the model we have', who is he talking for here, not me, u? I wouldn't be surprised if Walcott leaves, I would, we r so bad and I hope we fail this season so he getsbsacked and just to prove a point, build for next season!

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The amount of time Theo has been slagged off for being lazy, now we are wrong to stall on 100,000 a week.

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If Theo does leave the club, can anyone blame him? Theo has never said he wants to leave the club at all. I'm just scratching my head as to why the club aren't doing what they can to keep him. Theo wants to be played as a striker and play him there. Gervinho isn't the answer. Time to switch the formation and play two forwards. Poldolski and Walcott. Can't be any worse than what's happening now.

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"hope we fail this season" and you call yourself a fan, Chelsea, utd, city are available for your support. I won't wish at any point that this club would fail .

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13 Dec 2012 11:13:48
edoo2 can NB52 be called back of loan?

champagne charlie {Ed002's Note - Bendner is on loan for the season with an option to buy. There will be provisions in the deal for a return but it won't be an option that can be exercised just to provide cover for poor performances.}

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Bendtner? Seriously? I know were in trouble but come on. Do we want him back because he has lit up serie A? Oh wait, he hasent scored a goal for Juve yet

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Can't believe its got that bad that we are even considering Bendtner.

I'm still at a loss as to where the form we were showing at the beginning of the season has gone.

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I think Juve would send the worlds greatest striker back in a shot. However, unless Wenger changes tactics & plays with two strikers, there is absolutely no point bringing him back.

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I was not saying i wanted him but there a mention of it happening.

thats why i asked

champagne charlie

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Bendnter pisses on chamakh/park/gervinho, anybody can't see this doesn't know football one bit
still we need better and all three need to move on but chances are we will have to spend through the nose in jan on any quality so as a fall back option getting nicklas back isn't the worst suggestion

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13 Dec 2012 00:37:09
Nani wasn't actually seen at the Arsenal training ground, he was seen at the Watford training ground which is next door to the Arsenal training ground. He was there to watch his fiancé's son play for Watford Under 10's.

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Arsenal would be the last place nani would go, anyhow we dont want x manc's remember silvester he scored an own goal against us when playing man u

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13 Dec 2012 00:01:51
Players like szecs sagna gibbs kosci verm merti cazorla jack rosicky ox theo podolski giroud arteta will get into every side in the premiership.... So what is wrong at the club.....is it playets attitude.....is it wenger and coaching styles...is it the effing boardroom.....im still hurting from yesterdays game.....i need answers and clarity that arsenal want to challenge for honours and in the process not lose anymore top players....its do or die time....no more scaremongering we are facing a crisis on major scale....wenger needs to gather his troops or give someone else a chance...my beloved arsenal is becomig an embarrassment

GS

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Only Sagna, Vermalen and Cazorla would get first team play in top 3 teams in PL

Problem at Arsenal FC is boardroom!! Do you think that Arsene hates good, expensive players? Has a problem with high wages?

Solution for every problem in arsenal is to sack Gazidis, kick Kronke out of the club, bring Usmanov and
David Dein (and pray for cupple more years SAF to be in ManUtd so we could watch two biggest managers in football history bettleing for top of the league)

In Wenger We Trust!!

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Boardroom doesn't play the games. They dont put their 90 mins on the field.

The way we play is boring an slow yet we always seems to be out of breathe before the other team. We need to gamble on some plays instead of this crap back an forth pretending like we are creating a play.

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Agree with your list, remember the clubs linked with Theo (cfc, mcfc, mufc and juve) yet most afc supporters would be happy to see the back of him.
Anyway the boards support of the manager is were its all gone wrong - the manager take too much responsibility - the board should let him manage and not worry about finance
ultimately its time for change as this is currently not working

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Jack would get into any team in the world, I genuinely believe that.
Sagna and TV would get into most Prem teams, but only because the standard isn't great for their positions at the moment.
Cazorla on current form would struggle to make Chelsea or Man City's midfield.
Arteta has been playing some great football, but with his lack of pace meaning he picks up too many yellow's, I can't see him making every teams starting XI.

Paul

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I think Stewart robson got it right in the a website interview, and he made sense that's why we lose our big games

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In wenger we trust poster

wenger does not support dein and usmanov

YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU POST ABSOLUTE DRIVEL

champagne charlie

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I think wenger needs a new challenge...and from my perspective he will not be short of offers if he decides to leave the emirates.

PSG, Real madrid are two names that will go for him.

Knowing him he will go for PSG, so that he can revolutionise french football.

Arsenal are at the end...the results are no longer there...everyone says keep calm we are 2 points of 4th spot...

what have we become? we are aiming for 4th? fair enough...but are we so clueless to know that we lost to a league 2 side on penalties, after missing sitter after sitter?

and what if we lose the game this weekend? then what? are we going to say its only 5 points from 4th?

We need guardiola...maybe he wont save us but we need fresh ideas and to start we need that to save us.

waiting till the end of the season to go through this rollercoaster is madness...every player that left arsenal has proved he has made the right decision with money and trophys...while those who are here are looking to get out...so what exactly are we trying to take the moral high ground on i have no idea...we are a football club...we talk football...if we talk ethics and code of conduct and we fail on the pitch, we are the hypocrites.

Lakerville

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No Theo yet in all the papers the only Clubs after him are Juve, ManU, ManCity and CFC..mmmmmmm

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My apologies for not putting theo in still trying to get hang of typing on my bloody phone ...theo transforms our game

GS

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