Arsenal Rumours Archive June 14 2012

14 Jun 2012 22:25:15
Hi Ed, any possibility of signing Christian Erikson as he has really impressed for Denmark. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and AC Milan have shown an interest in Eriksen in the recent past. He has already rejected both Manchester City and Chelsea but AC Milan remain the most interested club. The Milan Press Office are convinced of interest from Manchester United and they have let it be known that they expect a bid to be made by for Eriksen who remains adament that he will stay in Amsterdam for two more years before moving to Spain. Expect AC Milan and Roma to press if a bid is made by Manchester United.}

Well he has not exactly impressed for Denmark at the Euro's, but earlier this year he played som good games...
He is too young and inexperienced for at top team in EPL, he will stay in Ajax for two years more and then move on.. In AFC he will be a squad player and thats no interest for him

I cannot see him starting ahead of Wilshere or Arteta really, a dont think he'd be a regular starter for us. He's a really good young player and will probably be great one day, but he really isn't yet. I don't think arsenal need to buy any more players with great potential, at least for a year, as I think even Wenger now realises we need some established quality coming in or we will fall far behind

Chimney sweep Josh

14 Jun 2012 19:57:44
ed is kalou going to sign for liverpool? if not do you still think wenger could sign him? i'd have him at arsenal decent player + he's a free even better, and do you think we will sign a full back and a replacement for djourou if he leaves? and is the giroud deal almost done like every1 is making out?


sorry to blag you with loads of questions.
cheers ed

aaronk9 {Ed002's Note - Giroud: a move outside of France beckons with Arsenal the favourites. KAlou: Probably not. There is interest in Kalou from Schalke, Newcastle and Galatasaray. Previously Olympiakos approached Chelsea with an offer to take Kalou in January but the player has no interest in a move to Greece. Marseille did make an enquiry but the problem would be wages. If that could be resolved it could provide a solution that suits everyone. Interest from Liverpool is not out of the question.}

14 Jun 2012 16:47:27
Hi Ed's

Do you think M'Vila and Giroud is going to sign for us? Also what is the chance of Arsenal signing anyone defense like Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa? Also what is the chance of Arsenal signing anyone in Attacking midfield (Ibrahim Afellay)? Lastly and news in back up keeper?

Young gunner {Ed002's Note - There is a decent chance that one or perhaps both Giroud and M'Vila will sign. Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa has attracted the attention of Dortmund, Newcastle and Marseille in addition to Fenerbahce - which looks his likely destination. I think Afellay is still a high risk option but there is a chance. Goalkeepers - none I am aware of right now.}

Thank you for the information :D

14 Jun 2012 18:36:31
Klass jan huntellar linked to Arsenal for 17m if true could be the end of RVP...

Bradders

Wouldn't mind this scenario

How did this post come through?

And why would Huntelaar even consider coming to Arsenal? He's extremely happy at Schalke.

I think if we get giroud we won't get huntellar. If rvp goes I think if we did replace him it would be with a player similar to him, more of a flair player. Though knowing Wenger, I think he wouldn't buy another after getting podolski and giroud

Chimney sweep josh

I think I saw it on givemefootball.com where I saw it. He's last year of his contract I think it said, just thought I hadn't seen it on here but read it somewhere so please don't shoot the messenger...

Bradders

We've signed giroud have we ?

So far we've signed podolski, m'vila and giroud. Only seen one of them in an arsenal shirt tho

14 Jun 2012 15:50:12
ed do you think we could get dzagoev this summer? after all this might be cska's last chance to get some money out of him.

iceman {Ed002's Note - It would make no financial sense for the player to move now. And CSKA are looking to give him a new deal.}

Dzagoev to cska is like fabregas to us. wont be cheap. i doubt wenger will get him. {Ed002's Note - He is out of contract in December.}

He is out of contract, but I dont think we will get him. There are quite a lot of midfielders that have been available at a good fee (montolivio this summer) who probably dont even get a look in by Wenger. I see Dzagoev as one of those.

14 Jun 2012 14:10:40
does anybody else thing we should look into fabio coentrao he is a good LB better at defending than santos ( so is my granny ) and is good at going foward. as well as playing LB he can play RB and CDM, very versatile just what arsenal need. what are the possibilities of this happening ed.


VP.10 {Ed002's Note - Very, very slim.}

We have two left backs, we will not sign any more!

I don't mind people asking about LBs because both of ours are pretty weak and nowhere near both good enough at defending and attacking in equal measure. But to ask about someone who moved last summer to R Madrid for mega money and has had a brilliant season....there's just no point in asking really!

Madrid paid about 27m for him, can you really see Wenger paying anything near that figure? Also, having admittedly only watched him play a few games for Madrid, his defending seemed very average to me and sees Marcelo get the nod over him.

He signed for Madrid last season for 25+ Million, no way on earth will they be willing to sell for under that and theres no way we will pay more than that.

If we want a young left back to compete with Gibbs and Santos i think we should look at Nacho Monreal of Malaga.

14 Jun 2012 16:11:44
Santos actually isn't that bad at defending as people like to claim, (certainly better than your granny anyway). In the one and one situations against wingers, Santos is a very good defender, he has an unusual and unorthodox style of defending but it's effective. In the air, he is very good. He is strong, he can't be bullied and he's also very strong in the tackle, if you have properly watched Santos over a long period of time, you would know this and the stats back this up and help to prove my points true.

Please check out this article:

http://www.eplindex.com/13838/bad-defender-arsenal-andre-santos-statistical-analysis.html

As we all know, he's great going forward. His biggest problem is his fitness, his pace and his mobility which I believe is all linked to his poor fitness, because once he gets going down that left wing, he's pretty quick and hard to stop.

He isn't lazy, it's his fitness that is the main problem because he lacks the stamina and pace to get back in position and his biggest problem defensively is balls in behind him between himself and the centre back. He reads it but he just can't get there like he would if he had Gibbs pace and agility.

I believe if he really improved his fitness and slimmed down over the summer, he could be a very good left wing-back, that's just my opinion after watching him for the whole of last season.

Sell one

VP.10

Spot on about the santos fitness issue. It goes without saying that santos has quality, and if he had the fitness and stamina like gibbs, as the guy above suggested, then santos would be absolute top quality.

14 Jun 2012 11:54:43
ed, depending on how he does at the euros, do you see wenger being interested in debuchy?

thought he was very good against us in the opener and wouldnt mind him starting ahead of gibbs or santos

i know newcastle are interested, and they have a knack for spotting talent so why not go for him.

bs18 {Ed002's Note - I am not sure it is a priority for Arsenal. Debuchy is of interest to Valencia. This was their Plan B to the stalled Van Der Wiel situation. Inter, AC Milan, Manchester United, Newcastle, Bayern Munich and Palermo have also shown varying degrees of interest.}

He's a right back. He would be in competition with Sagna, who is just ahead of him in the France roster but is injured. Gibbs may not be ideal, but bringing in another specialist left back would be wasteful unless we're giving up on Gibbs and selling him on, which we are categorically not doing.

Problem is that he is only two years younger than Sagna, so he wouldn't really be a long term successor to Bacary would he? I think either Coquelin or even Garry Bocaly from Montpelier could be that successor, however.

14 Jun 2012 01:52:17
with redknapp leaving spurs and jan vertonghen not signed yet maybe it will put him off spuds and we can nick him from under their noses

what are the chances of this ed?

bs18 {Ed002's Note - No idea.}

Be interesting to see who Spurs get as manager, as they have left sacking 'Arry a bit late - with a lot of managerial transfers already taking place, and them potentially missing out on good replacements. Hopefully will get Vertonghen to reconsider, and perhaps sign for Arsenal. I also imagine it is probably a certainty now that Modric will leave them.

Bentschke

Literally my sentiments exactly. sign him up arsene
BW

Unlikely. He'd have no guarantee of first team football with us, where as at Tottenham he'll be the number one centre half. I think if it's not Tottenham he'll be going abroad.

Chimney sweep Josh

He might be good but I don't want a player who has been in the midst of a public lovefest with Spurs.

Jan wanted champions league football but from the interested clubs we were the only champions league team, but then decided spurs were for him can only mean he didn't believe he wouldnt be guaranteed first team and to be honest I don't think he would of been TV,Kos were a quality pairing last season some mistakes but that's expected in a first full season playing together, mertesacker may have been the subject to a lot of grief but considering his caps and his previous standard of football he can't be as bad as everyone keeps saying. Why try to sign someone who clearly wanted to go else were I'm glad we didn't get him prefer what we have to him anyway

DD arsenal

Good Shout

Vertonghen is like mertesacker but with better feet. He is a slow centre back. We dont need another 1 like that.

He would get first team football at left back where he played for Belgium against England so sign him up. Gibbs will be a good back up when not injured and Santos - well enough said

Vertonghen is certainly not slow - he can match verm and kos for speed

quality centreback imo

Why would we want a player who saw spurs as a better option to us? he should never be a gunner

We will not sign Vertonghen. Interestingly no top teams came in for him, only Tottenham, a 4th placed Europa League outfit. This speaks for itself, that he isnt rated as highly as the hype suggests.

I think it is intriguing where he played for Belgium against England. As It used to be TV5 who was shipped out at LB and now it is Vertonghen. That in a nutshell shows I think that the Belgian coach rates Vermaelen as a better defender overall, which may explain Arsenal's reluctance to go and make a serious bid.
Just a thought - I could easily be completely wrong.

Dun 4get...pep might be interested in dat position...imo

I would prefer Mbwia - we need someone who can play anywhere across the back!

Billybob

Vertonghen could not match either Vermaelen or koscielny for speed.

In Arsene I Trust.

He's good or great player in his last year of contract and still Ajax want loads of money for him. Maybe the teams are waiting for him to finish his contract and sign him on free?! This MAY BE the reason for top teams not going for him. Good and steady CB/LB, great at going forward and also has power, height and pace. I watched him for belgium couple of times (playing left-back) and for ajax (playing something like, we used to call in old-school days, "libero" - moving from back four(CB or LB) to DM to ST position all along the pitch - great versatility, sense of the game and movement of players and ball). IMMO future top top player. I would love to see him in our starting lineup (LB or DM or CB - nevermind), maybe even before Song and Gibbs (who I rate as CM and LB).

MaJaBa movement

Think certain people are being a bit harsh. He wanted to play for Tottenham as he would be guaranteed first team football. All the CL Man City, Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea have at least 2-3 quality CBs with 1 or 2 average backups, so he just wanted to make sure he could play in his favoured position of CB with Spurs. Nothing wrong with that. Arsenal should sign him as he is equally as good as Vermaelen and Koscielny. I remember one of the EDs saying he had a suspicion that Vertonghen would sign for Arsenal, think he could be right...

Hass

Your a bit late Hass. Vertonghen's name has been bled dry on this page, and now its giroud who has that honour. When he signs for a different club, only then will the name be dropped. Havent seen Hazard's name on here recently have you.

Anyone saying vert couldnt match our cbs for speed have never seen him play - still id rather keep our 2 at the back - a bit shakey but all they need is a holding mid imo

If we can we should bring him in and rotate our defenders more. This means less injury, greater squad depth and a greater chance of winning the title.

Koscielney is faster than most midfielders. Vertonghen is no where near as fast. I think its you that hasnt seen vertonghen play. Maybe his stat on football manager has confused you.

Ajax fans, on the whole, rate him much more than TV. And he is definitely faster!

My mate is a season ticket holder at Ajax and can't believe he hasn't signed for anyone yet.

He might not be as good as Verlmalen but his better than gibbs/santos, i say throw him out wide!

A player who stated that he prefers sp*ds over us....
i dont care for what reason
i for one wouldnt welcome him
bosscielny n tv5 are perfect we dont need vert.
we need players like tv5 stating love for the club not players who would leave us for better ops
sick of the nasris and the cashleys

13 Jun 2012 22:31:16
Ed002 with the interest from different clubs that you have mentioned in M'vila, out of curiosity what is it that makes you think that he is arsenal's for the taking. I'm assuming at least half the clubs you have linked could pay higher wages and offer first team football. Thanks {Ed002's Note - I understand that the player would be happy to join Arsenal.}

Is it not the same reason so many other players chose Arsenal over higher wage/fee offers? Because they like Arsene, like the system, like the way we play, and hopefully - they have some incentive to win trophies for us, playing attractive football the Arsenal way!

Bentschke