17 Jan 2012 22:08:18
I know theres been a lot of talk about Lucas Moura (not directly with us) but just curious has there been any price set by sao paulo?? {Ed002's Note - If Lucas Moura becomes available I suspect he will end up in Italy. Lucas was enquired about by Liverpool (amongst numerous teams) in the summer and the quoted price was $130M. He may eventually be sold for much less but way more than any English side will pay for an unproven teenager - with figures around 35M euros being suggested. There is, in my view, no chance of him moving to England or to Liverpool in the short term. If pushed, Roma or one of the Milan clubs could attract him away from his other option - a move to Portugal with perhaps third party ownership. However, I doubt he will leave Brazil for perhaps a year or two.}
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17 Jan 2012 18:47:32
Eds just wanted to ask do you know anything about Samba? I can't understand why he would want to leave Blackburn, prem regulars, for QPR, even if he does like working for Hughes. That just makes so little sense as a career move. Is it genuinely likely or is he going to be going to a top 6 side like he deserves?
Cheers,
Raz {Ed002's Note - I can only suspect that he is not happy at the club right now - and given the off field issues it is hardly a surprise.}
If we moved TV5 to LB fulltime, which I'm not opposed to because he actually knows how to shoot on goal (can he teach Chamakh and Gervinho this), pretty damn well if you ask me, I'd be all for Samba
Samba and Mert would be a heated battle for playing time, something we need
US Gooner
17 Jan 2012 18:30:56
Yet more evidence that if Ramsey was good enough, he'd be in this list:
sport.uk.msn.com/blog/talking-tactics-blogpost.aspx?post=26cdeb4c-c467-4fe3-b412-f8412cd8d9d2&_nwpt=1
I would take both of the Swans' mids over him any day.
Our only player on that list is Arteta. Tells you about what he brings to this team. A permanent outlet for the defence, and the man who spreads the play from the back to the front.
Raz
I hope you are saying that he's not good enough YET because that is a sentiment I can agree with. If you're saying he's not good enough at all... yikes. Gilo has the right of it though.
I'm saying if he had been good enough this season he's be on it....
Raz
Ramsey's legs are EXHAUSTED. This is his FIRST FULL SEASON after injury. He's 21.
With Wilshere and Diaby hurt, and Deench not ready yet, Ramsey has been playing in almost EVERY match. He needs rest, big time. These are boys, not machines...
US Gooner
Ramsey would be world class if it wasnt for Shawcross. I still cannot believe he is allowed to play football after what he did, and why didnt the police in England do anything?
sorry for the rant but i hate these talentless English thugs who ruin the EPL.
Indian Gooner {Ed027's Note -the lad was in tears, it was clear he didnt mean it, how can you say that
Shawcross has a history of being a thug, there have been numerous articles citing multiple instances where he did, or could have caused very serious injuries...
That being said, we must move on...
US Gooner
Leon Britton, the greatest midfielder in Europe, was an Arsenal player from the age of nine until we let him go to West Ham when he was sixteen.
We'd be champions of the world by now if Arsene hadn't let him go. Yet another reason why Wenger should be eviscerated in front of his family. The dirty French scoundrel!
Stezza...
Yes, conclusive evidence, also proving that John Terry is the 3rd best passer of the ball in the world. Get a grip.
17 Jan 2012 16:09:55
Arsenal manager next season...Jurgon Klopp from Dortmund.
The German Spy
Mm bring goetze kagawa and hummels with him!
TBH as much as I love wenger if klopp came and bought gotze hummels etc with him I'd take it!
The Same guy Who With A Full Team Couldnt Get Out Of The Cl Group stages?
I wouldnt mind a different perspective, a more positive mindset, a winning mentality and a manager who holds his players responsible. Wenger can join the accounts department of course.
Ash
This is definitely my choice of manager love what he has done at BVB.
Gilo
I would not apply for my season ticket which i have had for 25 years if wenger left!!!!!
Above poster what a stupid comment to make can't be a true fan if you'd stop your season ticket if they replaced arsene young to games to support the team no matter who the manager is but he clearly ain't the manager he used to be 7 years without silverware is not exceptable for a team as big as arsenal you must of missed a few games if you can't see we need a major change at the club and if it's to replace wenger then so be it and i think any real fans would agree and still buy there season tickets, one of the worst posts I've witnessed on this site I'm afraid to say
Gunner14
The fan who wrote in about perspective,winning mentality and mindset,players accountability,ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON ,ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON.Heybridge Gooner
See ya, because if things did not change i was going to give up the ones i have had for over 30 years
Bulls**t. 30 years haha, no true fan would give up a season ticket because we were not winning every game.
Gilo
Remi garde?
As much as I think Klopp would be a great manager - I would also like Brendon Rogers. Swansea's style of football is like the Arsenal of old - and you can see what he has done with a team like SC - imagine what he could do with our list (+ some extras!)
I'll pretend I never read this on this site.
Imagine a United fan willing to axe Sir Alex if it meant the Santos coach brings Neymar and Ganso.
This sort of fickleness deserves on to be on the ManC's page...
US Gooner
Gilo
i dont give a crap what you think
i have been a season ticket holder for over 30 years and have said for the last 4 i was not willing to to spend any more money on the club if they were not willing to do the same on quality players.
and each year i have caved in and carried on renewing them.
but mark my words they have up until the renewal time next season if there is no change i will not be renewing them.
and its a pity a few more did the same.
people can back the board and wenger if they want with there sub standard players and performances but not me any more,and if you think its just me your wrong,i was at swansea on sunday and that team and wenger were a disgrace.
so they have until the summer renewal time because i will not be contributing to wages any more like chamakh,wallcot and the rest of the muppets wenger has signed over the last 5 years.
i think i have been loyal to the club long enough with time and money over the years.
so slag me as much as you want if the club dont care why should i
Arsenal Football Club wishes you, and your saved wages, the best of luck moving forward...
"i would not apply for my season ticket which i have had for 25 years if wenger left!!! "
this is the sort of fan that scares me tbh-
i am a arsenal fan 1st, always have been, always will be- not a wenger fan or any other manager for that fact...managers come and go, the club is constant.
not saying i don't like or thank wenger, on the contrary, but if there ever needs to be change...? there needs to be a change, if its for the benefit of the club, no manager, player or board member can be more important than that.
Your a dick, you think Wenger should go? Man you should go support city or Barca. We don't want person little fans like you. If you don't like it then give up your ticket to a true fan.
ARSENE WENGERS RED AND WHITE ARMY!!
Very true that is why i am sick to the teeth
since when has wenger been bigger than the club.
i miss highbury so much
better class of fan, better atmosphere,
we were even on top of the directors now there all hid away.
it use to about the football.
and to the above poster who says arsenal wish me luck.
i would put my life on it you dont spend 100 pounds a year on arsenal so dont worry about what i a going to do with my money.
IN WENGER WE RUST
I love wenger but i love the club more, the rolling stones don't make great songs anymore, bruce willis doesn't make great films anymore, they all go off the boil in the end and the same goes for managers.
he's 62 and the squad will need massive rebuilding in the summer if additions aren't made this jan and we have another season like last which is very very likely and perhaps it will be worse.
bit dopey for people to call people out about having different opinions. it doesn't look good for us right now but life goes on.
charles eddy
Its not a question of who's the bigger fan, we all love our club, but seriously anyone who is happy at the direction we are heading is deluded. I can fully understand people who say they have been season ticket holders for so many years and willing to stop because thats the BEST way a fan can make their sentiments heard, the fastest way the board will hear us is if it hurts their pockets (tickets, merchandise..). The comparison with Fergie are not proper as he has continued to win trophies while rebuilding.
Ash
I'd rather Van Basten with Bergkamp over Klopp.
Rob
17 Jan 2012 14:30:30
Apparently Arsene Wenger is persuing interest in a Spanish Under 21 International called Alvaro Morata who currently plays for Real Madrid, but after some differences with Jose Mourinho it seems he is looking to move elsewhere.
Could the striker be a great potential or is it another typical Wenger signings, personally judging by Spain's U21 performances i watched in the Summer any of those players i think would be a great asset to the team.
Yet this does not solve our defensive difficulties.
As I have said before, Madrid is my 2nd team.
Morata is a future number 9, and exactly what we need. He and Sarabia were the crown jewels of the Cantera last year, although Jese gets a fair amount of hype too.
He is a pure number 9, tremendous touch, with the ability to set himself up for a shot in close spaces. He's very similar to Torres.
I'd sign him in a heartbeat, but whether they're looking to sell and he wants to leave Spain is debatable. A sell and buy-back option to Getafe, basically Madrid B for Liga, seems more likely.
US Gooner
Who do you support when we have to play them
wtf who on here has a 2nd team
and you try to give advice on arsenal matters
joke
What's wrong with following a team in another country!!
Surely this can only improve your knowledge and as a result give you a more balanced opinion.
Whoever wrote that comment, you sir are the joke. Laughable.
Gom
It's a team in another country, and Arsenal first. Sorry I disappointed you Dad...
US Gooner
And for the record, I support Arsenal, Madrid and Roma....I have since 1983....when I was born.
Good talk...
US Gooner
US Gooner. Can't believe it. These are my teams too. For real. :)
Cheers mate, Madrid is love/hate, I think we lose respect every year due to Florentino's antics. The way we treated Sneijder, Robben, etc. Di Maria, Ozil, Gonz and Benz are the future there
Love the Giallorossi...Totti and RVP is my secret fantasy...if we could ever have a charity match or something. Just to see them link up...
De Rossi is the man Fabregas could never be...
US Gooner
U dont support them there just ur favourite team in another league for example my favourite ukraine team is shakhtar but i support arsenal and my favourite spanish team is barca ect ect
Spot on, I support Madrid and Roma. Arsenal is MY club...I lose sleep, regularly, because of Arsenal...I know it's pathetic
US Gooner
17 Jan 2012 14:19:32
How bad must things be at arsenal when Newcastle are making better signings than we ate cabaye, Ba and now in talks over signing papiss cisse who would be another great signing for them sad times for AFC
Apparently Blackburn have bid for Honda too...Fulham land Ruiz....
I wanted pappis at arsenal =(
Yeah because over the Summer everyone on here wanted Ba and Cabaye didn't they haha.
Gilo
Well truth is in the summer most people said that demba ba is not good enough
Look its like this
some people is not wenger when was the last time he signed a prolific instant goal scorer
there have been too many bad signings
chamachk,bendtner,vela,park we dont need any more experiments
WE NEED EXPERIENCE PROLIFIC
1 man for me benzeman
break the bank and pay the wages
Exactly imagine the headline:
'Arsenal buy Championship striker on a free!'
Everyone would have been ecstatic...
Gilo
I new cabaye was good enough he proved that at his last club I'll give you Ba but cisse's stats speak for his talent but wenger only looks for players that will be good in 5 years time then never plays them and they start losing there talent every other club mainly looks at who will improve there club now
Gunner14
Wouldn be buying if there free?
True, there have been too many bad signings lately. Wenger should give up the experimentations and spend big once or twice.
Ash
Gilo I'm not so sure that's fair mate - not all of us were saying he's not good enough, in fact quite the opposite, although many were, and also he's hardly a championship striker that's why he had the release clause in his contract that he could go for free if WH got relegated.
Raz
Never said he was a Championship striker, but It's just if Wenger bought him people would have nagged for lack of ambition like why didn't we sign Falcao for 35 million or whatever.
Just seems another excuse to get a dig at Wenger.
Gilo
Yeah true there are deffo cases where he can't win either way....
Raz
17 Jan 2012 14:16:54
tv5 is playing more better in the position of CB ,we need a player like clichy to cover the LB,players like jordi alba ,taylor from swansea is good
Well done captain obvious.
Clichy was pure c**p. I can't remember one good cross from him, defending also poor. How many times someone outjumped him and scores...
Sorry, i disagree.. clichy was more reliable then gibbs will ever be. gibbs is way to hyped up.
17 Jan 2012 14:06:37
Man Utd and Liverpool r looking at Crystal Palace player Wilfried Zaha...Havent seen much of him but he is meant to be a future star...thoughts? Wonder if Arsenal have an eye on him
Marty
Hope not despite this kid looking very good, we need players that we can be more than certain of delivering now and not next season or the season after that. however if we aren't buying at all then why not put a sizeable marker down on the kid if he is that good, let continue his development at palace for a couple of years.
dulwich red
Yes arsenal have an eye on him we always have had an eye on him however it miyachi and aoc =... unless aoc plays cam ?
No way we will buy youth, we only buy world class...
17 Jan 2012 12:54:43
apparently Papiss Cisse is ''flattered'' to be linked with Sunderland. why on earth arent we in for him?! 31 goals in 47 games last 2 seasons...
Oleg Maputo
My friend, you must surely know by now that if it's a signing that makes sense, then it is very unlikely to happen?
Raz
He is going to newcastle
batch
Which league did he score those goals in?
Gilo
German league which is good. so stop underating all the other leagues. so annoying
He's just signed for Newcastle.
=M.A.
Bundesliga and we were interested but nothing formal
Clock end goner
No I honestly didn't know haha I couldn't be bothered to look it up...
Gilo
Fair enough but most people just overrated the prem and realy underrated the rest of the world
17 Jan 2012 12:42:04
Carlo ancelotti has said he wanted to wait till the end of the season to get the arsenal or spurs job but he got impatient and joined psg.
So maybe the rumour about wenger leaving has some legs, maybe Carlo knew something we didn't about our club and manager, it's safe to assume that he think Harry will be taking the England job so the spurs position would be open but why does he think he had a chance at arsenal?
Wenger is moving on at end of summer, where to, who can say? Our new boss will be the Serbian currently working at wengers old Japenese club, Grampus 8.
Eh? how do u know carlo got impatient and how do you know he knew something about wenger leaving. he might of thought wenger wud get sacked but he doesnt know and he joined psg cuz he will get paid more and will spend more.
Er because he said so himself! Why would I just make it up!
Rumour always was that board had approached Ancelotti the same day he got the boot from Chelsea about taking over at Arsenal, with interest if not agreement in place they bottled sacking Wenger.
17 Jan 2012 12:31:26
Yuppy! Squid is leaving! That means one free place in the squad to register a LB as Wenger was hinting at signing a LB.
Also heard that Thomas is close to seal a move away...that is another place available...could we get the creative midfielder we were dreaming about?
And remember that also any under 21 bought can play straight into the team without affecting the 25 man rule, so players like Morata are still a possibility.
Romanian Gooner
How do you know he is leaving mate?
I just had a quick look and tbh all I found online was a few articles from november and december saying we will be looking to offload Squid, Chambles, Arsh and Ros in Jan...and nothing else.
Raz
Raz,
A.S Monaco want Squillaci back and have implored AFC to get it done within 'the next seven days' and that was yesterday.
=M.A.
Thanks Miss A, I saw something similar from November saying they were keen but hadn't seen anything since. Would be great if they take him!
Raz
I love that above post
get rid of him
anything over 1m please
If God's listening please let this happen.
StEvE
I feel sorry for monaco 1st relegated and now they might get squiliaci. i like monaco aswell gues i wont play as them on fifa ever again if squil goes
Yuppy? as in 80s banker...drives VW GOLF ?
17 Jan 2012 12:27:04
What does anyone think about the RVP to Barcelona rumours, obviously impossible now but at the end of the season.
GoonerDan
I don't know why but I think RVP would flop at Barca...
Raz
If we dont make take 4 its very possible. Think Barca r getting rid of Villa, so RVP might b lined up for his spot
The Fact They Haven't Finished Paying For Hleb And Henry Is Interesting.
Wouldnt you leave after watching ur defence give away games e.g. swansea, fulham, blackburn, man utd, tottenham.....the list goes on
A 29yr old RVP will not start in front of Messi, Fab or Sanchez. Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta are locks to start with Thiago pushing hard.
If RVP leaves, he'll regret it.
US Gooner
If RVP leaves, i would understand. Is it so wrong to desire to win something?
17 Jan 2012 18:36:40
I think hell go, in a recent interview he mentioned them more times than arsenal! He said he loved their philosophy and ability to win trophies while playing beautiful football.
www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/16/robin-van-persie-arsenal-loyalty
I hate to say it but if i was him id go, hes been loyal for us for a long time and hes not known for moving clubs so one more big move in him (+well really struggle to keep him if we finish 5/6 and he performes at the euros!)
arenal = barcas finihing school!
17 Jan 2012 11:53:27
We should get Samba then TV5 would solve our LB problems and he could be good cover for Song
Sagna KOS Samba TV5
we would never have to worrie about our deffence untill they all get injured lol
Rainham Gunner
I think Vermaelen makes a great CB, he is fine for cover at LB but the greater benefit for the club will be playing him at CB.
I agree he is best at CB but he dose a great job at LB too and the way we get injurys one more CB could not hurt and would realy push players to play for there place if they had seroius competition if and if we are going to keep hold of Gibbs we need players that can step in
Rainham Gunner
I actually like TV5 at LB, as it forces him to push up and he's able to get 3-4 shots off a match, and we need that. His shooting is lethal, and unlike most of our players, he knows how to shoot
US Gooner
No way. CB anytime!
17 Jan 2012 11:47:49
Hi Eds or anyone
Do any of you know if the FA cup game with vila will be going to friend and famils so I can get 2 tickets
at the moment I can only get a tictek for me and my little boy as I am a RED member and he is a junior gunner
But I would be unable to go on my own so I need to get a ticket for my father inlaw aswell
Cheers Rainham Gunner
All sorted now my fater in law is now a honorary RED member lol untill the end of the season then I can get a purple membership and should not have any more probs
Cheers Rainham Gunner
17 Jan 2012 10:18:08
Anyone seen the rumour about Kaka on Caught Off Side.....sorry to use bad language!
Gunnner 4ever!
17 Jan 2012 09:12:20
Abidal has signed a new deal with Barca, step forward Wayne Bridge!
EDQ-85
NO NO NOOO PLEASE OH DEAR GOD NO!
Why do people want wayne bridge? do we not remember his awful display for west ham when he was on loan there last season?
gunner89
I never believed that Abidal would be signed by Arsenal. Wayne Bridge, no thanks. Vermaelen should be fit for Sunday's match & can fill in at LB. Then for the following match Sagna & Gibbs should be available, so the full-back problems will reduce. I would still like us to sign a LB, such as Cissokho & push Gibbs forward into midfield.
Just to clarify, in my opinion our options were Abidal and Bridge, now Abidal is out of the equation, Bridge may be the only option, but god no i dont want this clown in an Arsenal shirt.
EDQ-85
I'd rather bring lehmann back and play him at left back than have Wayne bridge at are team especially when his weekly wage is worth more than he is as a player absolute donkey would lose every bit of respect for wenger if he signs him
Gunner14
Even if gibbs return , he is not the answer to our LB. CISSOKO is desperately needed.
17 Jan 2012 08:57:07
We need someone to sharpen our blunt attack and the person I've heard Wenger is looking at is none other than Ivan klasic. Cheap and a good finisher typical Wenger signing.
16 Jan 2012 23:32:49
I have a holiday home in Spain estepona to be exact and was talking to 1 of the neighbours who knows some 1 that looks after pat rice villa and he says that he's retiring at the end of the season but it's not just him it's the whole first team coaching staff including wenger.
Now I have met pat loads of time over there and he never will say anything about arsenal all he ever says is wait and see. the man who looks after the villa was full of drink but my neighbour says he's the same sober genuine
I hope this is true
Need a fresh start
Need a new direction
Stop...
US Gooner
As soon as i read the first four words i know the rest would be rubbish and you didnt disappoint
If Wenger Does Leave All Of Us Will Notice What An Incredible Job He Did For Us.
Well my shop assistant is Arsene Wengers, missus, sisters, godmothers, sons, milkman s, shop assistant and he said its lies, so now...
EDQ-85
Am I the only one who prays this is true?
Hammer time
Could be true. Wenger has already hinted he may step down if things do not go well. I suggest now !
I'm already realising already how great wenger was for us and wondering what happened to him
Gunner14
The only bad thing Wenger has done is to keep on playing Arshavin every week! Needs to leave us now. Need a new left back as extra cover, apparenlty Ashley Cole is unsettled at Chelsea could he come back?
Wenger will be gone by the end of the season
12/1 wenger gone
from 100/1 at the beginning of the season
Is Wenger leaving really a bad thing, 7 years without a trophy (yes we will win nothign this year too), and from the looks of it i dont think the next few years will yield anything either.
Ash
I have an apartment in Estepona and never seen Pat Rice or heard his name mentioned there, load of ole bull lol
Bergkamp to be assistant, he has been doin the job at ajax for awhile now and we all know that the man is a footballing genius!!