Arsenal Rumours Archive August 19 2011

 

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19 Aug 2011 22:17:18
This was posted by someone the other day...I hope he doesn't mind but all this calling for wenger to be sacked...? Perhaps you need to look elsewhere...

Just returned from completing my uefa a coaching badge, on the course with me was a coach who uses coloney to conduct a few sessions and observe the arsenal coaches, who he spoke with. as fans we began to chat about the state of the club.

It's as simple as this, while this board are in power we will never compete for the top names, wages being the problem and the fact the board see the club purely as a profitable business. tonight's game is massive, it will help determine who we sign, impressive display and big win then expect bids for a top cb, either mata or hazard and possibly benzema, if not then expect dann, Jarvis and bendtner to stay. Our great club is heading downwards I'm afraid, money talks.

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Think about what you have suggested for a moment. The board according to you are just in it for money. Okay to summarise, what will earn the board more money? Letting the club decline or winning trophies etc. Really stupid post my friend. The problem is that the board trust Wenger too much.

StEvE

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Thank you for reposting this. This is why I am saying thw whole time stop going on about AW being sacked, or that we need to sack him more like - the board calls the shots at the end of the day. If we get rid of Wenger then they'll get someone else in to do exactly the same as him, but they won't be as good, and then we'd be screwed. The board denied a cash injection from Usmanov, they said to us it would be a 5yr quiet sepll after the stadium move and it has now been 6 and counting, and like I have said many times elsewhere the board not only use him as their puppet, they have clearly become endeared to the way he makes them a fortune while achieving what they consider to be 'enough' to appease the fans. It isn't. We want the board to give AW the money to bring in and then pay the players that could bring us trophies. Not the players we have now, and not another manager. Some people think it would change if AW left and it wouldn't. Notable in their absence, the board haven't come out and spoken about the fans needing to back the manager ONCE this summer. Appalling.

On a side note, many people are hearing AW in the press and getting upset- please please please do not listen to what he says in the press - he hates the press, knows they crawl all over him and this amazing club, they hate us, I believe someone called it a witch hunt which I quite liked, and just ignore him. If you know AW you know not to pay attention to him when he says 'we have enough quality'. Have faith inhim, give him your support. As a gooner I'd give quite a lot to be able to hear what Silent Stan and Gazidis have to say about everything - meanwhile they're both sitting there rubbish their hands with glee.

Raz

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No Steve if you do the maths, what they get for simply reaching the finals of various cups and the final stages of the champs league, whilst qualifying for champs league the following season, actually brings in more money than if we spent say 50-100m on players, who then needed 6-15m a year each, without guaranteeing a position, the former is more viable as a business option. I don't know if I have explained that well as I have had a drink but this is why the board (note) are happy to spend 0-20m making sure we qual for the champs league than 100m+ in TF fees then 60m+ more in wages with no guarantee (i.e. Liverpool this year) of recuperating costs. It's all about recuperating what you spend with arsenal (hence self sustaining business model). Have you not noticed how every time we sell someone good that money evaporates? The board 'allocate' it is ways that make it seems as though it isn't available, e.g. the sale of someone for 20m will pay most the following wage bill. This means more money from tix sales can be called profit for the men up top and it means that we can't complain that the 16m after tax should have been spent on players.

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The OP is claiming that the club is in decline. By your logic we are not in decline we are going to be in the same place every season (minimum 4th) however if we happen to lose to Udinese and end up in the Europa League the board will not want to spend money to get back in the champions league. So the OP thinks the board would be happy if we kept declining and the poster above thinks the board would be happy with 4th every season. I highly doubt it. Especially given the fact that IT IS THE BOARD that want Wenger to spend.

StEvE

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19 Aug 2011 18:42:00
talksport:reason nasri city deal is delayed/not ongoing is that arsenal want tevez in return for a season loan,arsenal paying £100k a week and city pay the rest. if rejected then no deal for nasri will be made

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Well done Wenger Very clever - just like the numerous clauses in Cesc's transfer. Oh woops I forgot according to some people you should live in la la land, pretend we have a backer like city, utd, chelsea and liverpool, take what you are offered straight away and run off with it.

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No chance.
Drakey

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Ha
stop pls teves arsenal your funny

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19 Aug 2011 17:48:13
SSN - Arsenal made a loan bid which got rejected for 30 yr old Lucho Gonzalez This was confirmed by Didier Deschamps. I truly hope Arsenal have more ambition than a loan bid for a 30 yr old to solve our problems

Si-Fan

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Not just any 30 year old..thats lucho gonzalez the commander your talking about

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Whilst i agree a loan move for a player is not an ideal situation, lucho is a fantastic player and would be a great replacement for a season until a permanent replacement can be found. (he is also over 6ft which is a huge positive)

aj

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I think AW only want to get loan move for lucho is bcos of his age - 30.
so he dont has the sale value after this.
it also bcos lucho has said before that he wants to leave.
so arsenal just offer marseille a solution for them.

-hakeem-

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Didn't think Lucho was 30

he's a good player, an older (obviosuly a bit worse) version of Fabregas - would be a good singing imo

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For me, Lucho would be a perfect signing on a 2-3 year contract. Would take the pressure off of Ramsey as he really isn't ready to be a guaranteed starter and relying on Rosicky for creativity really is not going to work for us.

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19 Aug 2011 18:04:05
call yourself arsenal fans , calling for wengers head , its disgraceful , not the ideal situation we are in at the moment , but lets get behind the team, hes signed some great talent before, now, and he will ,so lay off wenger . or can you doubters tell me who can do a better job with the resources wenger has

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Its people like you that let Arsenal slide in to what they are.
We should be one of the top two sides in England and never, never, never never, take 4th as being nearly acceptable. we have a balance sheet in our trophy cabinet

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WELL SAID. Please post on here more often, I am embarrassed to be associated with all these fake a$$ 'Gooners' who want Wenger out. Do some research and come back when you're ready to support your manager.
Raz

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What about this, all the money coming in from sales and all he can bid for is a loan move for Lucho Gonzalez. Thats what we have to put up with so y wouldnt people start to lose patience. This sort of transfer window has to stop and be truthful with fans. We SELL SELL SELL SELL and thats it apart youngsters coming in and then when weve got them to their true potential they jump ship. This is what you r happy with.

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Yes I can do a better job with £60 million in my hand

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I agree with u 100% and if u fink A.W should be sacked ur not a true arsenal fan

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So explain to us where all the money has gone from sales of players, as you know so much.

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Come back after the window has closed and tell me your opinion then. iv got massive respect for wenger. he has changed the club. but his fantasy of creating a team from youth is NOT working. yes he has purchased some great talent but he has also wasted a lot of money on toot. why did he dismantle a team of invincibles? im not having a go at your opinion but we should be worried. the top 4 seems all the club are interested in and we will struggle for that this year as other teams are making more effort than ever to get in the champions league

paul - rochester

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Just a question. If wenger do not sign anyone by the end of the transfer window with sales from fab and possibly nasri and we fail to make the top 4. will you call for his head?

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Raz - always post just dont sign them but I am Tim B

happy posting

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To the first reply: WAKE UP think about some FACTS. football has become an arms race; the first factor that decides anything is money. We could compete for a couple of seasons with citeh etc but then we would go bust. simple.

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"Its people like you that let Arsenal slide in to what they are.
We should be one of the top two sides in England and never, never, never never, take 4th as being nearly acceptable. we have a balance sheet in our trophy cabinet"

No, fella. It's reactionary clowns like yourself, taking everything you read in "The Sun" and other rags as gospel and talking like you have knowledge of how the Arsenal board operate, that's the problem. How many board meetings do you attend? How many of the management team at Arsenal are you friendly with? How many of Arsenal's transfer negotiations have you been part of? What knowledge do you have of their financial plans/constraints? I guarantee the answer to all of these questions is "none" yet you still talk as though you're "in the know". Garbage. You'll force the best manager you've had at the club out of his job...and then you'll get what you all deserve...mid-table anonymity.

It's a shame...great team, great history but your support is terrible. Instead of bitching and whining about things you know NOTHING of you should get behind your team - it's like a library down there, no wonder you fall to bits in the dying minutes of each game. Call yourselves supporters - hang your heads in shame. Embarrassing.

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Resources?? How much do we have in the pot? Wenger himself has said he would break the AFC transfer record for the right player so don't tell me we don't have the resources Owen Coyle does a good job on his resources Roberto Martinez does a good job on his resources we are one of the biggest clubs in world football we have the highest season ticket prices in the EPL it's full to the rafters every week and we make big profits selling our top players every season You make us sound like Blackpool mush Wake up

Munnster {Ed003's Note - Eh,Whats wrong with sounding like Blackpool? ;-) }

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For f*ck's sake, DO NOT pay attention to anything you read or hear in the media. How many players have we been linked with according to newspapers and sky sports? we would have signed a whole new roster had those reports been true. We do things the Arsenal way, and for all those fake-a$$ "gooners" out there who want Wenger out, go and support another team, just don't try to come back once Wenger builds the next "Invincibles" team.

In Wenger We Trust,
Trinidad Gooner

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Yh you can on bloody football manager, if you can do better why aint you bloody coaching you clown of a human being

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Some of you people are truly retarded yes he has like 60mill to spend then you have all the wages to take into account which will be part of that money so just saying buy people is stupid we are not man city we dont have a pot of gold deal with it the fact that we stay top four year in year out is due to the fact our manager has a very very good brain for getting a good deal and not just going oh he looks get lets get them thats not how it works and some of the people posting on here have no idea

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Hi Tim B sorry I am not sure from your post what you're saying to me? I almost always sign my post and I couldnt care less if people think I should hide, I don't type my words by accident. If someone changes my way of thinking through sensible chat then that's great but why wouldn't I sign my name? I support the guy who posted the original comment through and through.

We have 2 weeks left of this TF window, anyone calling for AW's head now is crazy.

Raz

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Well said to the post above i am the original postee i didnt say i was happy with the way things are , im just saying give wenger a break , the critics were saying beginning of last season that we would not amount to anything and people forget that we were above chelsea and mancity til the dyin games of the season and we fell at the last hurdles again, thats where we need the depth in squad , and also a little bit of luck with no injuries or less remember cesc was out alot so was nasri ,diaby,tv5,djhorou, goalkeepers , we had a terrible time with injuries but wenger didnt get the credit . unfortunately the media have it in for arsenal and some fans are being sucked in . we all knew cesc was going to go back to barcelona, yours southeast gooner

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Spot on pal , whoever wants arsene sacking aint a real fan , when man city and chelski go bust maybe you so called fans might realise what a genius wenger is , look what happened to leeds for example you want us to end up like that? , hes spent 25m already and am sure he will spend more yet , get off his back and support the team for a change

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We might have more faith in Wenger if he had spent differently, my estimate is he has spent about 30 million on transfers so far, but made that back in sales, so spend is really 0. We are crying out for a CB, doesn't have to cost over 10 million, just has to be fit and capable. We need a LB as Gibbs is made of feathers and he wants to put Traore on loan. He dithers and argues over a pittance, which has already lost him 2 targets we did bid on. Currently we are weaker than last season, and I personally have no faith he will remedy that at all. He says he will spend, Gazidas says we will spend big, yet nothing happens. Its all the lies we can't tale any more of. You can't keep telling us you will spend big to address problems and fail to do so indefinitely

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So anyone that doesn't support Wenger isn't a true fan. You poor fool. It's arsenal fc not Arsene fc

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When CL is sorted then you will see the big names, it would be crazy to buy big names and pay big wages if we don't get CL footie. You do realise getting into the CL is being money. Furthermore it's not just a matter of paying big fees. If we don't get CL football why would big players join. We will get the signings but only after we secure CL. Please lay off AW. I am adamant no one else could have done what he has achieved. Not even fergie

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Its unfair to call for AW to go yet we dont know whats going on at the board level, if anyone has to go its the board. We should instead be asking for Dein to be brought back, him and AW are a proven partnership, imo Dein should be brought back as director of football.
COME ON ARSENAL

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Every one and their dog knew we would be short on quality at the end of the season so why didnt Arsene ? If we had spend 30 mill on 2-3 players in Jan we would have had more than one trophies and possibly the league. The additional earnings would have been more than the amount we would have spent. So NO we wouldnt have been Leeds. Wenger should go if this continues as it proves that one he has no plan B, second he doesnt have the mental strength to handle superstars so he doesnt buy them. He cant just keep the job based on past glories, 6 years is a millenium for a top club to go without even ONE trophy

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I can't believe so many of us are fighting,when I first started being an arsenal fan we were far more united and this current state of affairs is disconcerting to say the least. I for one would prefer to redirect the blame towards the board. Arsene wenger was not the one who promised signings I believe that was our CEO. Arsene wenger has the best interests of the club at heart you cannot do the job he has done for as long as he has and not feel loyalty. We're making assumptions on hearsay and media speculation and what other managers/coaches say. Maybe wenger asked about the player maybe he didn't. I know this I'm far more inclined to trust wenger with our club than say managers that poke people in the eye or sit idly by and let their own players tap other players up from other clubs or managers that do not care about the financial situation of their respective club s. What I'm actually getting at albeit long windedly is pipe down wait for the transfer window to finish judge but judge with a willingness to accept that not everything in arsenal's transfer activity is Arsene Wengers fault.

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Wenger did say he would sign players that had quaility sol campell last year silvestre lads in all fairness his signings need to be done and not on this site for giving rumours ten mins before sky and the clowns saying my cousin uncle and whoever else to be honest are talking s**t sick of it it's only a rumour site like

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Let's call for David dein to come back to the club starting today he'd shake things up

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19 Aug 2011 17:38:38
Arsene has made four new additions to his squad - Carl Jenkinson, Gervinho, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Joel Campbell - while Gael Clichy, Cesc Fabregas and Emmanuel Eboue have left the Club.

The critics have said Gael Clichy and Emmanuel Eboue were rubbish and Samir Nasri is greedy so we need new players

Will sign

Jagielka
Dann
mata

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Not the Mata that is destined for Liverpool

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19 Aug 2011 15:56:07
Its finally official Campbel has now signed for Arsenal and and the 19 year old is now going to link up with his team mates.

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Not really who we need at the moment just another prospect

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In a season or 2's time you will not be so disappointed we have signed this guy

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He has played the grand total of 8 games professional football. Not quite 1st team material yet

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Have a look at this guy on you tube he's amazing and I know people will say he's not exactly scoring them against world class opposition but most of the goals not even the best defenders in the world could stop. I think he will be looked back on as an absolute bargain.

Oz gunner

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Yippeee we are saved now (NOT)

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19 Aug 2011 16:51:00
The criticism of Wenger is ridiculous.

Arsenal do not have the money to compete with City, Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool. I suspect that they are still paying off the costs of the Emirates. That Wenger has kept Arsenal competitive on a comparitively small budget whilst also playing the most attractive football in the country is a remarkable achievement.

How much money has Wenger got to spend? Do you believe the Arsenal board when they say Wenger has X amount to spend? Nina Bracewell-Smith has called for the whole Arsenal board to resign. Wenger is doing a fantastic job managing the team with all the boardroom turmoil.

Even the staunchest Wenger critic will admit that they can't compete with City, Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool for players yet still they want Wenger to splash out big money? What is the sense in this? To be outbid by the other teams and get players that the other 4 have deemed not good enough? Make no mistake, In a bidding war City, Chelsea, Man utd or Liverpool will win 99% of the time.

Look at the players that Wenger is repeatably told by the media and frustrated fans to buy. Parker, Cahill, Samba, Jagielka. Are these players really any better than what he has? 3 players on the fringes of a mediocre England team and a player who's main attribute is been big Are these players really better than Song, Koscielny, Vermaelen etc? There are still people saying that Wenger should buy a keeper, even when he has brought through in Schzesny one of the most promising young keepers in World football.

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Very good comment. The hard part to swallow is why we allowed Clichy, Flamini & Nasri's contracts to run down to one year.

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I could not of said it better. SO TRUE

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Finally Some words of wisdom. Fickle and superficial Arsenal fans need to get a reality check. You don't know what you've got til it's gone......

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Nice post Arsene......now go spend some money

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Look Mr Wenger instead of writing in to transfer rumour sites bigging up your stubborn ways, you should spend your time more productively and get ya bic out ya backside and start writing cheques with it, for players that 95% of us gooners and near on every pundit you listen to, know we need, or come next year it'll not only be a CL spot we miss out on but all the doe and attraction that comes with it

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WHY cant we compete with those listed.. usmanov and kronke have more money than abramavich and co so why is it that we cant spend.. they must want to pocket it all themselves..maybe wenger will walk anyway..?

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Erm... Wenger said last year 'we have the funds to compete with Chelsea' since then we have sold Cesc. You would imagine that we have some serious funds to spend

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I been saying it for the last three years that the Arsene been takin the flax while the board pat themselves on the back. I belive he will sort it out and bring in players need to mount a challenge for the title. I just don't think it will be the plays we want him to bring for the squad/first team. I be amazed if brought in some establish/big name players. Every club seems to be slow on the transfers.

As supports of this great club, We should stop comparing every player who comes in or we are linked as the 'next so and so' .

Time to get behind our club, Manager and the players because they need us. Arsene stated today he will get us out of current problem.

Come on you Gunners, lets have a good result tomorrow

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So True. Lets get in a winger, a cm and a cb and do are talking on the pitch. Prove them wrong Wenger.
IN WENGER WE TRUST.

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Why are people so stupid? If the board wanted us to spend we would spend. Conversely the only reason we don't spend big is because the board won't lt AW that's why. Funny how they've not come out and discussed anything with the fans/ made any statements about transfers, nor have they at any point said 'support your manage', funny that.

Raz

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I cant understand why Wenger is above critism. It has been 6 years since a trophy and that is unacceptable. All arguments to support it is BS. If Wenger had bought 1 good CB, 1 good GK we would have atleast won 1-2 trophies last year and perhaps the league. The extra revenue, prize money would have offset the price paid for the CB/GK. So it is not money, not the board but Wenger hasnt got the balls anymore to splash money. Maybe the Reyes experiment soured it for him and he is scared to buy expensive players.

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Most sensible post have read this summer
Was beginning to think i was the only Arsenal fan living in the real world.(THIS IS NOT FOOTBALL MANAGER WE STILL HAVE A STADIUM TO PAY OFF THEY ARE NOT CHEAP YOU NO)
Stop listening to the anti arsenal media describing the club as "in crisis"(lots of other clubs would love to be in the crisis we are in)
At the beginning of transfer window everyone was calling

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Wenger isn't above criticism...But are you seriously suggesting that a manager who has spent nearly nothing in transfer windows while all his "rival clubs" have spent hundreds of millions and still maintained a team capable of challenging for trophies unacceptable. By that account, about every manager in the premiership should be sacked...

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Raz. The board don't just go out and buy players. Wenger gives them targets and if you took the time to listen to the IG interview, he also sets the bid price

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Mate you are a true football fan, just like me and i wish there were more people like this out there, talking sense like you did

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19 Aug 2011 15:59:46
we will not sign anyone of any first team value, i.e. benzema, kaka, hazard - wenger too stingy, the board always says they have a "war chest" for him to spend :(

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I don't trust the board to be honest. It's disgraceful of them to always lay the blame at the feet of Wenger. If they were honestly ready to release the funds required, Wenger would not be stubborn enough to refuse them with how thin the squad is right now.

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Its not down to wenger.....theres something wrong with our board, lady bracewell-smith called for them to be sacked. I feel they are more interested in lining their own pockets and then leaving wenger to pick up the blame for their gain

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Totally agree, for some reason Wenger is against signing established players,mark my words 5th at very best is what we can hope for

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19 Aug 2011 15:40:27
ok i want to see the balance
agree/Believable-if you want wenger to stay like me

disagree/Believable-if you would like wenger to leave
1732

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Pity there is no give him until September the 1st option.

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1st is too late

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Seriously all you ppl who clicked "Disagree" go stuff yourself, you are the reason we are laughed at and won't win anything. The club needs its fans and you are letting the club down asking for Wenger to be sacked. You all should be ashamed of and embarassed with yourselves for calling yourselves "fans" and "gooners". What a bunch of whining pansies.

Trinidad Gooner

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Unbelievable that any true arsenal fan could want him to leave. what other manager would you's have that can make a profit to pay off the world class stadium we have whilst also playing fantastic football and still getting us champions league football EVERY year. i get as frustrated as the next person over lack of signings but can i think of anyone that can do better. not in a million years.
Belly

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Can't believe any true fan would call for wengers rein to end. He's done more for this club than any other.

Do you really think any promising young player would join AFC without Wenger at the helm....NO.

You heard what Fab said, he is a class act and he knows what he's doing We simply can't afford 90+k a week for players.

Arsenal is a business, and it's run like a business, the business only re invests the resources it had to hand protecting the assets it has.

The Man City, Utd's and Chelski's of the world are not clubs run like a business but hobbies of their owners. AFC is not run this way and i for one am glad

Stop moaning and support your team

LR

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19 Aug 2011 15:36:40
for the last time be carefull what you wish for

1732

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Wenger has to go at some point. Do you really think that we will fall apart when he goes

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A lot of people keep saying that if Wenger goes all the best players will leave.....breaking news, all the best players are leaving and AW is still there, whos next wanting to leave to win silverware? RVP, Wilshere, Walcott, it won't be long. And why is it when teams like Man Utd and liverpool and anyone else for that matter identify a player they want they just go get him unlike us who fanny about and then make excuses in bizarre press conferances talking in riddles and not giving straight answers Rant over 100% behind the boys though

'Frustrated' Munnster

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19 Aug 2011 15:36:06
New Center Back- Phil Jagielka (recently had meeting with Arsenal rep, long-term target in the transfer windows)

Why not Gary Cahill?- AFC waiting until his contract runs out next summer (why pay 16-18m on a player that will be free) Oh well .. sigh.

Hey at least we signed Joel Campbell. He looks "promising"..(Arsenal love that word, but I hate it right now) but could be new HENRY, geeze so many Clichys, I mean cliches.

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It would be so good if ryo and campbell were the real deal

hernandezes rather than bebes

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There's no proof the bloke who met Jags was an AFC rep; none whatsoever.

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19 Aug 2011 15:25:17
I'm hearing that 3 players should be signing (2 if Nasri stays)

All we have is the Fabregas money to spend that's it and that includes wages

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We have less than the Fabregas money, according to 5 live. Apparently, even after selling Nasri we have about 25m and that includes wages. So no Cahill at 17m, not a hope in hell

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The more I think about it the more I think if people do start to get behind Nasri if he plays against Liverpool I think he may decide to stay cause lets face it he will only ruin his career at City. Adebayor Toure where are they now, possibly Adebayor may reserect his career at Spuds. Nasri will be making a very big mistake going to City, atleast at Arsenal he would be idolised, at City just another bench warmer. Surely he can manage on 90,000 a week and enjoy a very good career, i know I would rather than 180,000 and be a part player and just another number. I really hope he changes his mind and becomes a legend.

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A lot of us would of course prefer Nasri to stay, but can you honestly say if someone offered to double your wages in your career you'd turn that down? It's not as if Nasri grew up an Arsenal fan, and imo he's justified if he's frustrated in the club and how little ambition we're showing currently. The argument can also be made that having competition for places forces players to strive to become better, whereas here he was a guaranteed starter at the end of last year even when his form dipped sharply.

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Arsenal do have money players like adebayor sold 25 million never replaced really tbh

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Yes I would rather stay somewhere who wanted me and would guarentee me a starting place. Its not like hes struggling to pay his bills on £300 a week and somebody offered him £600. If he cant manage on 90,000 and be happy with that then there something wrong. Its called GREAD.

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Lol. AFC used almost none of the Ade/Kolo money. We had £60m including sale of properties before we even sold Clichy. (so £67m after)

Gervinho - £10.6m, Campbell/Jenkinson - £2m, AOC - £12m - Grand total of £26m spent... (Leaving £41m)

Add the Fabregas £34m (£17m of which released already the other £17m Monday)

Gives us a grand total to spend right now of £75m (inc' wages)...

Where people get this idea that we have shrapnel to spend is absolutely beyond me...

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19 Aug 2011 15:23:29
Let's get off Wengers back. We have a big game tomorrow and need to be 100% behind everybody at Arsenal

Another clean sheet and a single goal by Van Persie would be god enough........come on you reds

TA London

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Thats more like it. its hard to like many of my fellow 'so-called' fans at the moment with their armchair management. Get the best out of the team and the manager by getting behind them and giving some proper support.

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Yep. So many armchair managers that spend thousand each year supporting the team.

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And the banner with We want Vertonghen

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19 Aug 2011 14:14:43
re nasri: noises within saying that he will ONLY be allowed to go when we do get a replacement

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So he's staying then..?
Drakey

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Should up his wages then no replacement required. Hes had his head turned, who says it cant be turned back. Come on Nasri c sense you could become a legend at Arsenal or a number at City.

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If reports are to be believed, hes already declined 110k a week from us. Honestly, I won't blame him for refusing to re-sign at this point. A more ambitious team has shown interest in him and are offering better wages. The blame lies in our club for failing to provide the squad with proper depth and for failing to re-sign him before this summer.

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19 Aug 2011 14:08:05
Looking at our signings so far,I know that Gervinho looks good at the moment,but do you think that the Board are just taking the money and hoping that Wenger will work a miracle with the boys that he has now,or has Wenger got a few surprise signings lined up?

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I pretty sure Wenger has a couple signings lined up but ony if we get to CL

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Don't blame the board, this is AW going back to his preference of buying and developing youth rather than established players. AW has the say, he is the one who felt it more important to spend £12m on a 17yo attacker than an experienced cb

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19 Aug 2011 14:03:27
i think we should relax when the fair play rules come we will dominate

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No we won't The rules are farcical. Man City have already sussed a way of getting 40m+ a year so we're buggered. Wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing was abolished in a few years.

StEvE

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Only if UEFA is actually capable enforcing the rules. If Real, Barca, ManCity, Chelsea, ManU, AC Milan, Inter, Juventus and Liverpool all fail to fulfill the requirement do you really think they will all be dropped out from UEFA competitions. Even if only Barca fails thats the end of story. UEFA would never ever drop Barca out from CL. That will NEVER HAPPEN

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This rule will mean nothing as city have already(sponsorship deal) proved where there are rules people will always look to break them just a benefit to the powers that be to take bigger bribes

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I've said before it bull and i'll say it again.. its like in england when the fa fine a team and dock em points.. its only done to the little teams whereas big teams are 'cautioned'... it'll be the same re the 'fair play' rules.. besides now that psg have a sugar daddy do ya think that platini will come down hard on one of his own.... non mes amis.....

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The rule can be worked around, it wont change a thing, Wenger is kidding himself

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19 Aug 2011 13:37:10
Derek Derango twitter is fake

It's common sense Use ya noodles

Kaka wages-£195k
Benzema wages-£200k

Come on guys get real Wouldn't give nasri £140k, and he's fully integrated into the team and league

Goonerman

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Benzema is on 100k a week mate. Very affordable but won't happen.

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Everyone knows its fake but u thinking Benzema is on those wages is even more hilarious

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19 Aug 2011 13:37:05
ed what is the chances of signing martin-hazard and valbuena out of ten {Ed002's Note - 2, 4, 4. You really need to ask AW about this.}

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19 Aug 2011 13:19:27
DONT PEOPLE GET IT
wenger is not to blame the bored is stingy
wenger has done a great job and will do a great job all im saying is be carefull what you wish for look at liverpool they wanted benitez out and got hogdson look what happened then
1732
IN WENGER WE TRUST

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And now they have got Dalglish and are spending loads of money. Have you seen the squad for tomorrow - it is a joke, barely enough players to fill the bench. It is a disgrace that this has been allowed to happen. The club knew all summer that Fabregas and Nasri would be off, so why did they do nothing about it. We now have no back up players like Denilson or Eboue to bring in and we have a team of injury prone players - Gibbs, Rosicky, Djourou, Walcott, RVP, Diaby. The team needs a complete overhaul and a new Manager would be best to do it.

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I think you'll find the BOARD are telling him to spend

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As far as i am concerend there are two more weeks of the TW and they might have known fab was going but not nasri and also they did not know that those players would get in liverpool paid outrageous prices for average players we might lose tommorow but we will be sure to bounce back
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At the end of the day IF THE BOARD WANTED THINGS TO HAPPEN IT WOULD HAPPEN- Wenger is not to blame. There is no reason why, with inflation, hiked tix prices and the changing of times, coupled with our huge profits, self-sustaining business model, rich owners and that 5 years low tf activity period over, we cannot compete on the TF fee or wage front. The board simply do not want to. if they did, we'd have signed Benzema 2 months ago. Our board is pathetic yet people want Wenger out, idiots.

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In Wenger you trust.
Wenger makes the transfer decision not the board. Wenger is responsible

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Have you considered the fact that maybe the board want Wenger to go. At the end of last season Gazidis stated that the fans would decide his fate - and guess what, no transfer dealings, star players leaving and the fans are starting to turn. If the board wanted to back Wenger, I am sure that they would have got in some star players by now.

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You'll regret it when he goes, mark my words. The majority of Arsenal fans appear to have no common sense when it comes to your current situation. You're all calling for the head of the man who keeps you in the position you have become accustomed to...cut off the head and the body will die. As a small minority have said on here over recent weeks, "be carefull what you wish for".

Raz, keep talking sense, fella.

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Well if Wenger had his own way Cesc and Nasri would both still be at the club so what do you make of that?

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Who's fault is at blame when we cant pay players 200k a week
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I agree and that was my point about the Board. Wenger has been magnificent for Arsenal, but this pre-season the Board have not backed him and finally the big name players have had enough and want to move on to win things. Until the Board finally release the purse strings, Wenger will have to continue bringing in youth and he has done brilliantly to make sure we continue to challenge at the top, but we always falter as our squad is just not strong enough beyond the first team.

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Cesc went with wengers blessing, don't blame the board

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"Cesc went with wengers blessing, don't blame the board"

Get over it What else was Wenger meant to do? Keep him at the club when he blatantly didn't want to be there any longer. The entire Arsenal forum on here is full of know-it-all supposed "fans" calling for the best manager in the club's history to be sacked. Seriously, stop believing you know what goes on in the boardroom, you're all an embarrassment to your team. It's pathetic.

Alternatively, force him out and enjoy your slide down the table - that's what you'll get, mark my words

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Cesc only went with wengers blessing because they are very close. Wenger did everything and i mean everything in his power to block the transfer. Everyone could see cesc's head wasnt at arsenal and neither was his heart so wenger did what was BEST for the CLUB as a whole, and let cesc go home. I agree the nasri contract was a farse letting him get down to 1 year. But nasri is odviously greedy seeing as he wont sign new contract. The board may say we have millions and that may be true but without david dein doing the negotiations then we'll never and i mean NEVER see the millions being spent. Silent stan is useless. If there was one transfer this season id love to have it wouldnt be benz, tevez or kaka, it would be david dein. Everyone has to agree that with dein and wenger we did buy the players we needed. Take dein away and wenger doesnt have the power to kick off at the board. Do you think the board gives a frick about our history? To them its just a business and atm they are lapping up the profits while wenger is having to cover up for them saying we dont need new players. Wenger knows we do and wenger knows who we need to get but with out dein then they wont happen. So this has nothing to do with wenger not wanting to spend, but that the fatcats that sit in the board counting the profits are scared to take a risk on a 20 mil player in his prime as after 3 years once hes done a job for us theres no sell value. Why do you think we buy teenagers? Wait till they are at prime and sell for massive profit? Because the board want it that way.
Sorry for ranting but i for one support arsene and always will

In arsene I trust

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Surely an honour in the New Year. Services to the English Language.

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19 Aug 2011 13:13:08
all we need is to sign 2 of the 3 rumours ive heard about backs ( cahill 16m, mertesacker 6m and samba 10m). tv5 and kos are doing well for me. maybe sagna.

i also think we should go and buy cheap lfc sub aquilani aswell as primary target mata in midfield.

up front hazard and either higuain/benzema to play with rvp.

we also need a keeper but thats last on my list. also forget the 16 year olds, look at lfc,utd,spurs,mc and chelsea they sign expeirienced players. i know its a lot to ask but we need it to improve our squad because the other players will mentaly think we cant get into the cl

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Sorry but the reason Aquiliani wants to leave is to return to Italy, last time I checked this is not where Arsenal play.

LFC Eaton

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Is de gea experienced? are young, henderson, jones, adam, lukkau etc.. experienced?

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12 days left mate if we are lucky we will get 1 midfield, 1 defensive midfield and a defender.

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19 Aug 2011 12:50:49
Derek Derango who works for the BBC has said a phone call went to Madrid re the availability of Benzema and Kaka. Also Arsenal faxed a bid to lille for Hazard

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Derek Derango twitter is a fake. I have never heard of this guy and on google, the only results of derek derango is this twitter page and forums talking about the same news you're source says.

Don't believe it

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Think derek duvale whatever his name is ,is not real

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It's a fake account. derek derango doesn't exist. The picture was taken from the Lincoln star; the picture was of John Mabry.

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Faxed? Ed i don't know anything about how transfers work, but do people still really fax? or is it just Mr. wenger being an old man? maybe its why we havnt signed anyone, nobody is checking there fax machines {Ed002's Note - Faxes are still used.}

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He is real. He's a chameleon

Slick Mick

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19 Aug 2011 12:39:11
Derek Derango of the BBC claims on twitter AFC have made contact with Real Madrid regarding 2 players thought to be Kaka & Benzema.
I find it hard to believe we will sign any of these but surely a reputable source.
He also tweets fax has been sent to Lille over Hazard. Lille insisted on Fax which is still common due to phones being tapped...as yet no response

ArsenalAds

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He seems fake-bbc fella

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I heard it was kaka and higuain. proof - benzema started v barca and hig keeps gettin injured

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19 Aug 2011 12:36:52
I hope diego is being considered at 8/9mil.....wud be a typical wenger signing rather than spend 25mil on a similar player.

Would be a great edition as some say he had a bad season last year i would love to see a good one

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19 Aug 2011 12:32:03
every1 should look at this article about David Dein and go out and support wenger and the team massively against liverpool

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14586175.stm

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Wenger does not deserve the amount of hostility being shown by the media, UEFA, and the fans. We are Gunners, He is our most successful manager ever, We should stand behind him and be counted, not boo and jeer him like some fickle children.

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Agreed, he is the middle man for the board and it is the board who have decided to take our 5 year plan to bugger all wages and bugger all transfer fees to 6 years and counting not Wenger. They must love having a manager who will make them a fortune whilst spending nothing.

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19 Aug 2011 12:29:15
gary cahill to go for 14 1/2 m

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I dont think we will sign cahill.Wenger prefers squillaci

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19 Aug 2011 12:26:40
BBC sports analyst DerekDerangoBBC reveals 2 phone calls made from Arsenal - to Lille for Hazard & to Real Madrid for two unknown players and Everton have come to terms that they might have to sell one of their star players, Phil Jagielka has been named, more to follow soon

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Phone tapping :)

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Sadly he is a fake account on Twitter so don't trust what he says.

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19 Aug 2011 12:21:48
bbc via twitter:arsenal delaying sale of samir nasri ,trying to negotiate deal,arsenal wanted nigel de jong but was refused.

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19 Aug 2011 12:18:49
bbc reporter:regarding hazard,Apparently a phone call was made from #afc, but Lille asked to fax, to keep it on written terms. Content unknown.For those confused, fax is still used a lot, to avoid tapping up, which is much more easily done through the phone.

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Why not sms or email, its much quicker and easier to use than fax. Maybe France is still in the 1980's

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Don't believe the fake BBC twitter account that started this rumour. It came from the same account that said we had enquired about Kaka

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19 Aug 2011 12:04:08
hey maybe we should hold a poster to bring back david dein as well

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Or better still, a poster saying Wenger out. Our squad for tomorrow's game against a contender for 4th place, is frankly embarrassing. If we win tomorrow no doubt the message to the fans will be that we have a strong enough squad to cope this season, and if lose we will be told that it is down to injuries and suspensions. The board should act now and let a new man spend some of the money that we have just received. By the time that we are knocked out of the CL next week, time will be running out to get new players and to be honest who would want to join a sinking ship.

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English as a third language possibly?

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19 Aug 2011 12:00:53
when the fair play rules come in arsenal will rule but for all those people saying wenger should go truast him but my advice to him is to manage a national side i think that would suit him better

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When the fair play rule comes in, isnt that y they are spending big now while they can, y isnt Wenger?

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I'm not exactly ready to put my faith in UEFA remaining true to the Financial Fair Play rules once they come into effect. My gut feeling is Man City, Chelsea, Barca, etc will suffer no real penalties for failing to truly run their clubs with economic responsibility in mind. Also, I doubt feel Wenger would make a great international manager for a big nation. He would struggle dealing with players with big egos. Perhaps he would succeed managing a smaller side where expectations would not be so high and the players would be more likely to be team-oriented.

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Arsenal won't rule when the financial fair play rules come in, Man United will rule still..

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19 Aug 2011 11:18:48
Ins:
Mertesacker £6m
Hazard £26m
Zarate £10m

Outs:
Fabregas £34m
Nasri £24m
Clichy £7m
Emmanuel-Thomas £1m
Vela (loan)
Eboue £3m
Bendtner £9m

Wouldn't be too sad if this happened.

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While these transfers would make me and a lot of others happy, I still don't think it would be enough to allow us to seriously challenge for anything yet. Our team last year was seriously lacking in depth. We need 4-5 signings I'd say (CB, LB, CM/AM, ST). Considering how slowly we work in the market, I wouldn't be shocked if we couldn't manage a single signing before September 1st.

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Really... Our squad was to thin last year so your happy to lose 7 players with premiership experience for 3 premier league unknowns. What if they take 6 - 12 months to bed in.

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19 Aug 2011 11:18:13
Arsenal will use their 35 million for the sale of Fabregas to fund moves for:
West Brom's Peter Odemwingie 8 million
Wolverhampton Wanderers Kevin Doyle 12 million
Liverpool's Joe Cole 6 million
And Fulham's Clint Dempsey for 16 million

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Doyle is not 'super quality', why don't we keep Bendtner? Odemwingie has just singned a new deal. Joe Cole is not great. Dempsey is pants. Next....

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Odemwingie has just signed new deal.

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U must be dillusional if u think any of these would improve our squad but it must be joke.

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Peter signed a 3 year contract yesterday. Cole 6mill, Liverpool couldn't give him away.

Jog on.

Didn't you get enough stick for this post on the main site

Mong Out

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They see me trollin....

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Thanks for making me laugh on a friday afternoon,

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Odemwingie has resigned for WBA already so he won't come to Arsenal this season

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P odemwengie for 10 m nd cole for7m

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Odemwingie just singed a new contract....

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Odemwingie has signed a new contract, Doyle is not Arsenal quality
Cole is past it

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Well the first person just signed a new contract at WBA.

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Odemwingie signed a 3 year contract extension with West Brom yesterday so very much doubt it.

If all this happens I'm going to start supporting Spurs

Monkey

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This is nearly as ridiculous as Senijder coming to Arsenal

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Ha for a minute there is thought you were serious

funny............Joe Cole LOL

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In my opinion one word describes all those players mentioned CRAP

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Yea, if we were trying to get relegated

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19 Aug 2011 11:15:12
Earlier i reported about us signing:

Dann
Diego
Gignac
Valbuena
Matip

I apologise, i got my Brazilian CM's mixed up.

It's not Diego we have agreed terms with, it's Hernanes of Lazio. However I think we should sign Diego as he would only cost 9 million.

Whilst writing this i got a call to say Hernanes has just got on a flight to London to agree personal terms. Exciting player. Hernanes video below

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJrsHPZCAk

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Was your call a video you watched of him on youtube?

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Well you were wrong about Valbuena. Deschamps just said he talked to Wenger and Valbuena will stay.

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19 Aug 2011 11:14:24
Why is AOC not getting a game? Surely the Newcastle game would've been a good outing or even Udinese. Or is it if we play him once this season we have to pay the extra £3 million? So as we're sling he won't get a game at all. Ps this is not a serious comment but it is slightly worrying. I'd like to think that our most expensive signing so far would at least get a run out.

Romford Gunner

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It's two games into the season, calm down

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Against newcastle our player was sent off so we needed more defensive players and midfielders. against udinese two of our defenders got injured so we had to replace them, leaving no chance for AOC. he'll get his chance

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Well, perhaps the fact Gervinho was red-carded in the Newcastle game played a big factor. This forced Wenger's hand to bring on defensive subs. Also in the Udinese game, Wenger decided to shut up shop. I commend him for this. A sign of things to come I think. No doubt people will now criticise him for not being attacking enough The dude just can't win I still loves you AW.
Keep the faith.

Slick Mick

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My point purely is if Arsene has that much faith in him to sign him for a total deal of £15 million surely he must rate him highly enough to play him over hmm let's say Theo? I just hope he gets an outing soon. I'm really interested in how good this kid is. Gervinho on the left and AOC on the right would be a good combination. What's the old saying? If they're good enough, they're old enough. I'm not criticising Arsene as such but why pay that money for him to warm the bench. All the best to the gunners tomorrow, we need a win. I'm interested in the team tomorrow bearing in mind the suspensions and injuries. Just our luck to get them when we have such big games coming up. Oh for the doubters, trust Arsene he'll get the right people in.

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AOC may have been fairly expensive but that doesn't make him any better than Theo Walcott. Theo scored against Udinese so why are you complaining about Theo starting ahead of AOC?

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To be honest I actually want Theo to start up front. I'd rather arsenal play 4-4-2 and utilize the strengths we have. Also to be really honest and I've said this many times I think Theo is lost on the right and therefore it would be better to see if AOC can play there. Theo would be far better on the left as he is right footed Henry was right rooted and played his best football cutting in from the left or he should be up front. Gervinho is banned now so I'd like to see theo on the left, arshavin up front with rvp and AOC on the right. Theo himself says he wants to play up front and not on the right, so let's mix it up and c how we do.

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19 Aug 2011 11:12:43
Wow, David Dein saying the fans should pipe down because AW could walk. Sorry mate but shut up - try telling your son to stop persuading our players to leave.

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No you shush wenger knows what he i doing

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I didn't say he didn;t you idiot. I have full faith in Wenger. I don't trust a word Dein says though - he may have been a transfer legend but he put bugger all into the club then walked away with a fortune while his son engineers our players away from the club, somehow I don;t think I care what he has to say. I listen to Wenger and nobody else so nice one idiot.

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19 Aug 2011 11:05:04
At this point (11am on friday) I would be over the moon if we signed Dann today or in the morning, as long as he could face Liverpool if needed

I think Dann's the man as Wenger wants Kos and TV5 to be first choice.

Has anyone got any news on Big Nick? will anyone make an offer for him? It must hurt that Eboue has more interest than him LOL

Mong Out

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I agree Dann is young and cheaper and I do not think he is significantly worse than jagielka and cahil they are all good solid (if unspectacular) premier league defenders

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Yh that is kinda said actually never thought of it that way
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Dann did not play for Birmingham last night so it is possible that he is on his way to some team playing in europe

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19 Aug 2011 10:41:19
I am a long time gooner who now lives in Portsmouth and can't get to matches as much as I want but still buy my kit and wear it with pride.
Just wanna drop a few things on here, will no doubt get abuse but this is my thinking and hope people respect it.
1/ Aw is a god and has given me some of the greatest moments of my life but feel he is losing the love of all goners everywhere. Whether his hands are tied or just does not want to spend money, he needs to come out and say exactly what is going on. He looked foolish the other day in the press conference saying no one is leaving when we all knew Cesc was going and Nasri is almost a done deal. Tell us what your plans are, say if we are in talks with players or worse say we are not and we wont be signing anone.
2/ We all know where we are weak: GK, CD, LB, DM & ST
GK - We missed a trick not signing Skeeltenburg who went for just over 6.5 million
CD – We need someone like Cahill, Jags or Per. All 3 are better than Johan and Seb a and would add more competition to TV & Kos
LB- No brainer, we need cover. Gibbs too injury prone and Traore is just not up too it. Sign Baines or Verthogen (?)
DM – Song is a liability and EF is too young, this is the one area I just don't know who we need but know we cant rely on Ramsey & Jack being available every game and Song staying on the pitch.
ST – RVP needs help, he is great but can't do it all on his own. Karim would be great but cant see it, Mata could do a job but highly unlikely. My choice and only my choice… Antonio Cassano. Proven goal scorer but slightly flakey but what a talent.

This is my opinion so don't bite my head off or rip me to pieces. I want Arsenal to up there with the best but fell deep in my heart this could be a truly disappointing year.

Like always ……. IN AW WE TRUST

Paul

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Would say Song is actually quite good, so I disagree with you on that point. And GK, Szczesny is brilliant.

LB, CB, and ST yes, and I think you missed out on the most important position--centre attacking mid. If we signed a CB, CAM, and ST I'd be a very happy gooner

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I agree with you in some aspects like Sketelenburg and it was a shame we couldn't bid for him. I also agree with all those positions you've highlighted but I feel you have forgotten that we also need an attacking midfielder to replace Fabregas and Nasri. Hamsik maybe? or Joao Moutinho? However, I disagree with you about the striker Cassano is an enigma who cannot be relied upon.

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I dont think we need a dm weve got song and frimpong and coquelin if needed
and i trusst shezza everytime i see him he is better two cleansheets in a row when was the last time that happend

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Good post, keep the faith

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You are right, did miss AM and feel we should get Hazard regardless of how much. I do think Song is good but he is liable to explode at any time, if he could control his temper he will be awesome but i just think he is not controlled enough and sometimes go rampaging forward leaving a defenders a littel exposed.


Paul

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In AW we trust?behave pal,the myopic fool has lost it WENGER OUT

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Totally agree with you Paul mate, i myself am a lifelong Gunner, we should stand behind Wenger now more than ever Who could do half the things he has done for us with the wonderful style he has the team playing?

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Whoever says WENGER OUT is a sht and doesnt know his ar$e from his elbow when it comes to football.. seriously, enough with the Wrnger abuse we are all gonna be sad once he leaves.. the last of a dying breed. In Arsene we Trust

Trinidad Gooner

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Never thought i would agree with Gary Neville but he was right when he said we should be careful what we wish for. Its ok saying you want AW out but who replaces him who could do a better job with the resources that he has been given and still manages to play great football? My first season going to Arsenal was 70/71 little did i know that it would be 18 years later before i saw my beloved with the title again. Football goes in cycles and we will start winning trophies again so lets just wait until the transfer window closes before asking for AW's head

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Good post buddy. Like the other posts, i disagree with the Song comment. I think although he doesn't have a hugely obvious effect on the game the way Viera did in that role, he is class in a very modest way.

I'm frustrated at Wenger, but don't want him out just yet.

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19 Aug 2011 10:39:12
What dont people get as much as i like to keep checking if we have signed someone as much as the next person ...there will be no news till after the CL game.

Simply because any top player Arsenal are aiming to buy wants to see if we make CL.

There is no point slating Wenger saying that he thinks everything is OK when his hands are tied.. top players want to know where Arsenal stand before committing.

...my source common sense... as long as we qualify i believe the type of players the fans have been crying for will arrive.

In Wenger we trust.


...the grass is not always greener on the other side, be careful what you wish for as no doubt the club is bigger than any player and manager... he is still the best candidate for the job

how can any fan criticise Wenger for not doing his job when the fans are not doing theres... how could the Udinese fans be making more noise than Arsenal fans...shameful...

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The problem is many fans feel Wenger should have tied up deals for players earlier in the summer. Perhaps then Nasri would have re-signed, our new players would have had a full season and there would be little worry of us progressing against Udinese. By leaving it late, he's allowed both Cesc and Nasri to leave and put the club in a difficult position of finding replacements so late in the window with the very real possibility we won't be able to offer CL football.

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Borrocks - Cahill Dane Samba Parker Jadson all of these would come regardless of CL

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I'm going to the game on sat, gunner get right behind Wenger. imo the board have hung him out to dry while lining there own pockets. UP THE ARSENAL

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19 Aug 2011 10:31:02
Ok so today all I am hearing is that we are being linked with Willian from Shakhtar and that Lansbury might be going to Blackburn.

Anyone got any better news than that? Or more news on Willian?

My I also ask that the fans who are going to the game PLEASE make a banner or two with some names on We have no method of communicating with AW except that really - it would be worth it, all we need is one camera on it and you never know what might happen.

Some of us, myself included, are fearing the worst for this TF window - keep the faith all, I doubt Ed022 would say we'll all be happy bunnies if there wasn't something in the works.

Raz

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We are not linked with him now we where what is happening is that he wants to move to us he is good though

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Wenger said he will give Lansbury a chance, with so many injuries / suspensions letting Lansbury go now will be suicide

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19 Aug 2011 10:14:17
for the last time ed has made it very clear that gotze would not come neither will benzema

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19 Aug 2011 09:15:28
After a fans meeting with the everton chairman this week they were told that they have no money and are also under pressure from there bank and may have to sell at least 2 or 3 of there best players.We should try to buy baines/jagielka and arteta.I think 10/16and 10million=36million will do it.

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19 Aug 2011 09:14:31
My view - Wenger has 4 or 5 players lined up to pull the trigger on - waiting on CL qualifier to confirm we get through to group stages - if we do the more expensive will be brought in, if not the secondary targets - eg - lose and Dann comes - win and possibly Cahill/Vertonghan (purely names based on speculation). This will replicate itself across midfield where i expect another signing.

No more than 2 players to come - big game Weds will determine exactly who they are.

Rob G

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19 Aug 2011 08:50:42
First time poster on here. Does anyone know if Dann played last night for Birmingham as he would be cup tied for us if he did and we sign him for the group stages

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He was not in the squad

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He didnt. or in the subs bench {Ed001's Note - official word is that he picked up a knock.}

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Dann was not included in the squad to play last night, possibly a good sign

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Dann doesnt play last night.. not even on the subs.

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He wasn't even on the bench.

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Dann isnt fully match fit as he is still feeling his injury he picked up last season. but think that he will be signing tho not til end of window.

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18 Aug 2011 23:42:24
A bit outside of the box but what about bringing Anelka back as our striker option. He is more than capable of still scoring lots of goals in a side like ours and is a type of striker we need. He will make those runs in behind hanging on the last man and will help speed up our attacks.


Ed:- what do you think?. Apparently he is unhappy at Chelsea. Yes he is 32 now but I think deep down he would love to play for us again and would do a job for a few years yet. He would certainly take the pressure of RVP for goals. Would Wenger go for it, possible I reckon. {Ed002's Note - Chelsea will let him leave, he could well be interested, but would Arsenal?}

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Anelka is very much known as a too greedy player...bearing in mind that fact, i doubt that arsenal will go for him.

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No. Have you actually watched Anelka play recently?

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As that well known phrase from Wall Street goes 'greed is good'.........especially in a striker we just need a player who just wants to score goals nothing more nothing less I am sure Arsene has a plan in place just no idea what it might be I am sure when we qualify for CL all will become clear.....hears hoping anyway......

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19 Aug 2011 06:57:53
Keep hearing rumours that Nasri is 'very close' to a move, yet nothing

So as far as i am concerned, he is still our player and therefore can slot into midfield for Saturday's game against Liverpool

TA London

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Logically yes, but wont happen. Arsenal wouldn't trust him or risk an injury.

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What nonsense Nasri will never play for us again, simple.

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He'll be gone today. 100% {Ed001's Note - all it is waiting on is the terms of payment to be agreed, everything else has already been done. City can't understand why Arsenal were so easy to deal with over Clichy but are being so difficult over Nasri. My personal opinion is that it shows a lack of available cash to spend to get in replacements.}

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I think he has upset the board and that is why they are being awkward, just let the money grabbing get go, he will never be welcomed back here again.

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Looks like he is in the squad for tomorrows match.............

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18 Aug 2011 22:01:59
Out of Dann, Cahill and the other guy i would want G Cahill.
Ed2 what is the latest you have on Cahill? {Ed002's Note - As of last night we know that Bolton have held discussions with Liverpool over Cahill but do not think any formal bid has been submitted.}

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Wenger will buy Dann or Mertesecker because they are cheaper. I fear for us this season.

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Ed..do you think AW will sign Cahill {Ed001's Note - nope. He pulled out of any deal with him pretty much straight away, Bolton were being difficult at the time. Unfortunately he seems to have walked away from it completely, rather than biding his time as the player is in the final year of his contract and Bolton might be forced to sell if he is refusing to sign a new one (which he is). He needs to get back in there to have any chance of getting the lad.}

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Dann is better on fifa
lol

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19 Aug 2011 04:19:48
2 CB to be signed tomorrow, Jagielka and Scott Dann, will be signed at the most by this weekend. AW suprise signing is none other than Diego Forlan, who should be signed by next week.

You heard it first here.

Peru.

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How do you know this? As good as it could be.

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We heard it here first because nobody else was daft enough to lie through their teeth this badly

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Weve been hearing rumours like that since the start of the transfer season. Why should we believe this rumour?

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I think Inter are about to sign Forlan.

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We will only sign one CB, my guess is that it will be Jagielka, as for some reason unknown to me Wenger rates him. I would far prefer the taller, younger & better Cahill. Forlan will not be signed.

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It's probably a crock, but I would be realllly happy with Diego Forlan.

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AW very slow in the transfer market.. what he waiting for????

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It's not that AW is slow it's the players he is going for won't commit until nxt wk after our champions league qualifier, so don't expect any big signings until we are in the champions league

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19 Aug 2011 00:39:28
Arsenal Were Interested In Kaka, But His Agent Was Insulted With Our Offer,Now Guess What He's In Talks With Spurs.
Also Falco Close To Joining Athletic For 40m Euros Rising To 47 Euros

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Falcao was never going to happen, I doubt we even considered him. If we were going to consider that sort of money we would have persuaded Neymar to come...

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P.s. how do you know this about Spurs?

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That Spurs bit is a good joke, they won't be able to offer higher wages than us.

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Wouldn't want Kaka anyway
despite the player he might be, his knees are shot

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Point is madrid have gone and spent the money from aguero to replace him with quality something wenger wont do with fab/nasri money,but dont worry he'll have some excuse

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Neymar didn't want to leave Brazil, even mega rich Chelsea couldn't get him. Kaka is achievable it's just his wages that are a problem

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I heard the same about Kaka. Spurs can offer high wages VDV is on crazy money. Also I would think this is a sign that Modric will be off. I don't think we're missing out in Kaka, his knees are shot to bits- would he pass our medical which is apparently the most stringent in the world. What's frustrating is that it shows up our penny pinching and our rubbish negotiating.

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I know, we should without question have brought in 2 world class players to replace them and some of our younger players e.g. Ramsey go down the pecking order. We are in the Champs League yet because ironically of our lack of activity our prospective targets don't want to sign for us until we beat Udi. Nobody is interested in signing for us and building something, and making sure we qual next year, it is pretty poor tbh.

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19 Aug 2011 00:09:26
Arsenal interested in portrugese striker / midfielder
Danny

SaNjAy

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19 Aug 2011 00:13:16
people saying ohh the window is not sure yet, theres still time .. correct, but come on guys the team should be sorted now so we dont have to play Liverpool and Man u with a weakend team .. our season will be seriously damaged by the 1st of september.
Come on Wenger
Hazard
Gotze
Cahill
Thankyou.
Very impatient at the moment.
BR

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First of all gotze wont come and secobdly better late than never

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18 Aug 2011 23:22:19
Trusted source Wenger is planning to sign no one over the next two weeks. He feels our defence is sufficient ( until gibbs inevitabily is ruled out for a few months). As for midfield he will not sign anyone to replace cesc or nasri he will feel wilshere and ramsey are sufficient. Meaning rather than challenging for the title arsenl will be lucky if they get 4th or even europa league.
What do you think ed plz enlighten me with some breaking news on the transfer news.

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I bet not even you trust your own s**t. what sort of a person comes on here about a trusted source then goes on to say hope you enlighten me with breaking news?

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As much as this is a very believeable idea I truly don't believe Arsene is stupid enough not to buy established players when he knows very well his head is on the chopping block (waiting for potential execution) this season. But who knows we have to see in 2 weeks.

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What a Pleb Reading your rumour gave me something to chuckle at...."enlighten me with breaking news"
Maybe you need to leave the 'sauce' alone
LMFAO

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Load of crap.Wenger will sign 1 or 2 to make up the numbers.But chances are he'll wait until after we qualify for champions league.
Jim Bean

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You are spot on ..He was lucky when he come in he found a great defense and midfield ....Players seem to fade under his management ,look at Arshavin and chammakh ....the opposit of Alex Ferguson

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I don't believe you have any sources but I woulnt be surprised if Wenger didnt sign anyone

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Sign nobody and he's a goner, even the most blinkered AKB fans will see through him then. Claims its all waiting to see if we are in the CL are nonsense, if we wanted to be sure of qualifying we should have bought long before the qualifiers

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18 Aug 2011 23:07:43
Ins:
Zarate- 10 Mill
Dann- 8 Mill
Hazard- 26 Mill
Kaka- 20 Mill

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Kaka not worth that more like 9 mil
-injury prone
-passed his bess/old
-and at real mdrid he is just a squad player

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18 Aug 2011 22:58:27
Been told by arsenal coaching source Wenger is happy with players already at arsenal and has basically expelled rumours about transfers by insisting to players that they will finally have a chance to prove themselves this season without the added pressures of trying to impress against so called worldclass players because they all have the technical abiliaty to be as good as said players
This sounds more Wenger than any rumour I have heard and is from reliable source
So in short don't get your hopes up for a big money signing it just won't happen
In Arsene we trust

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In wenger we trust bollocks if he don't sign no one i and thousands of others will be outside the stadium demanding his resignation

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If he does not buy the terraces will revolt
dearest seats and pies and he expects us to wait another 6 yrs - jog on mr wenger

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I already want him out, can't believe hes survived this long, when (not if) we get beat on saturday the remaining AKBs are going to turn on him

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