Arsenal Rumours Archive July 19 2011

 

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19 Jul 2011 23:32:56
was told today that arsenal will look to complete a deal for a CB by next monday, there was no indication of who.
also was told that barca are going to try and make a final offer of 35mil plus jeffren/affellay. it is believed that arsenal will accept this offer and use the cash to bid for mata(expect this bid to be made within 2 weeks).
it is believed that traore is to be sold after not impressing during the asia tour, hence arsenal will look to buy a LB, believed to be enrique.

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Affellay is a good player has not had a chance at barca i would take 40 plus him love cesc to bits but no point keeping someone who dont wont to be there

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Haha, Traore not impressing, never saw that one coming.

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There is no way that arsene wenger would buy another player to fill fabregas if the deal included jeffren or affelay.... THINK

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Y not? who says they will be in the starting line up straight away?

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19 Jul 2011 23:17:04
there are reports that melo is close to joining a major european club within the next few days...anyone got any info?
jay

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Tonight, metro.co.uk say melo is on wengers watch list

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Melo was close to returning home with Sao Paulo, however a bid was accepted and substanial wage offered by Turkish side Galtasary which will be completed in the next couple of days.

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Someone posted the other day that melo might be signing...could be.

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Yes, he is on his way. he very nearly signed last season.

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3rd poster has it right, Melo will join Galatasary for the wages, he wouldn't get a substantial wage increase at Arsenal.

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Agreed - it was reported to day that the Sao Paulo deal was off because a euro team offered him more money, which tells me that it wasn't Arsenal haha. And if he's like that then he's no better than Campbell or Nasri and we don't need that crap. Look how chuffed Gerv is to sign to us, I bet he doesn't give a monkeys how much he's paid.

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19 Jul 2011 22:41:29
Arsenal will try and complete deals for
Gary Cahill or Christopher Samba
Jose Enrique
Juan Mata
Craig Gordon
Joel Campbell
and arsene may look at signing Sol Campbell again as a major backup but his experience in the changing rooms would help :D

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Hopefully not sol campbell unless its as a coach. no ebrique either, wenger has faith in gibbs. i rate j campbell but think he has disrespected the club n cant see us goin back in for him
BD

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All this cobblers about campbell he is only training with arsenal till he finds a new club.

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I live in Chelsea and I often see Sol Campbell at the pizza restaurant he does not look the fittest although fair play he has a lot of mobile phones....just waiting for that call from Capello

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COBBLERS-GOONER..... i liked this until you mention Sol Campbell........ person

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19 Jul 2011 21:09:35
Eman

it appeared on the rumour page.. I'll wait for your reply :-P
ike.

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19 Jul 2011 22:30:14
spanish media rac1 reports sanchez travelling to barcalona to finalise transfer.so looks like cesc's staying:)

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Pep said there is cash set aside for cesc. interview from
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19 Jul 2011 19:07:13
Ed is Nasrii going to move to City could Vieria influence him and who could we sign this summer benzema looks unlikerly and we sell key players to rival clubs not smart i hope we get benzema parker mata and cahill......maybe vidal instead of perker and whats the latest on Vidal......plus you do a great job on here : )

{Ed022's Note - I dunno which Ed you were complimenting but I will take the compliment before any other Ed can claim it! Parker is a definite no-go as Wenger just doesn't rate/want him. Vidal is young but a good player. Hes rated about £12m which makes me think Wenger will get a slightly cheaper option in. Benzema will depend on Madrid and will be an August signing if any.}

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I think Viera would prefer Nasri to be at Arsenal he is just at Man city to make some serious cash< I think we might see him as an Arsenal coach n a few years time

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19 Jul 2011 20:02:44
I agree 100% with the guy who thinks we are crazy to think 35M for Fabregas is acceptable. The numbers dont lie, he is one of if not the best midfielder/s in Europe. The problem with him is he is not winning anything whereas the Xavi's, Sneider's and Schweinsteiger's are. And now Barcelona want to use that to their advantage with their disrespectful bids. Considering his age and potential, Fabregas should be worth at least 50M minimum. And dont tell me that his fee should drop because he wants to go...Torres did not want to be at Anfield but Chelsea were still made to pay top dollar for what they wanted.

Lwi

{Ed022's Note - There are a few determining factors in this saga. A) Fabregas only wants to go to Barca and with this in mind the price cannot be driven up by Man City, Real Madrid etc... and B) Barca are broke and cant splash the cash even if they wanted to. Personally I would snap their hand off for £40m. Get him back home, end the drama, buy Hazard and Mata and move on!}

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If Cesc wants to go, and it seems he does, we need to do a deal soon, not wait till the end of the transfer window when it will be too late to re enforce our squad and we will end up with players who are not good enough to even get us back to our level of 5 years ago, If he does want to go, he should put in a transfer request now

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Agree 100% with the above post. This is one deal that we don't want to happen on deadline day. Leaving us with no time to find a replacement. Not a like for like replacement but a top quality player. And Ed, Hazard and Mata? ooohh, that I would love to see. Go on AW you know it makes sense

SG

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Have to say, I agree with Ed022 on this one. Let's be honest, Fab is worth less this year than last, as he had, by his standards, quite a poor season, albeit an injury plagued one. 40m for a player who's heart is elsewhere (altho I do believe he cares a great deal about Arsenal, and knows he owes much to Wenger) is a great deal. Sell him, send him on his way with thanks, and move on.

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I have always thought 35 million was the magic number, but its got to be straight cash AND it has to be reinvested in the team, we all know his hearts no longer in it for Arsenal. Its time to bring the saga to an end, we are only postponing the inevitable move - get it done long before the window closes, purchase the replacement and get on with it.

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Now that we have gervinho, taking hazard aswell would make great sense for US, but not for LILLE. Also, maybe fabregas @ arsenal would be more of an incentive for mata to come, being a fellow spaniard. If we lose fabregas, the best player in our team, then maybe players wont want to join our team at all. Lets be honest, arsenal without fabregas REALLY lacks cutting edge when trying to break defensive teams down. Replacing fabregas with a creative central midfielder would be a must. Mata could do it....dunno if he would want 2.

Daniel

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Although i was the one who said to consider 35 for cesc is a joke when caroll went for that i would tend to agree with the ed. cesc although bein top quality could cause more problems by stayin, plus mata plus maybe hazard in jan or next year (loan back for this season) would be more than acceptable to replace him. as long as nasri stays
BD

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Ed022 - Really? Hazard & Mata? I agree either would be great business for arsenal, but both? although both great players, we would just be wasting money. Mata is a LW so would fit perfectly into that position, Hazard can play left or right wing but if we had mata on the left and choices of Gervinho & Walcott for the right, and possibly Arshavin to back up Mata... would we need Hazard? surely using what would probably be 20mil instead on signing a decent defensive player would be a smarter move? Come on guys... as much as i would love either of them, its our defensive frailties that let us down last season, so another 2 wingers.... lets stop being dreamers yeh?

Sorry if you feel like its an attack, but just pointing out what seems the obvious :)

Elliot {Ed001's Note - Mata has not played left wing for a while, he has played behind the striker/s, in the centre.}

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Dont forget that by selling bendtner we are losing a winger...ha
Theo will want to play upfront next season and might get a chance so wingers we have are gervinho arshavin and nasri. If we sell fabregas, nasri will go in the middle (maybe) and then we have gervinho and arshavin. Arshavin is being used for impact so maybe we have a winger shortage? mata + hazard would be good because both could play as winger or striker OR attacking centre.

To have a strong bench shouldnt be a problem, it isnt for chelsea or utd or city.

Daniel

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Dont forget it was Cesc that hamstrung us for a big fee by going public last summer

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I agree ED he will leave at some point and he's got his hamstring problem which I bet will trouble him throughout the season again

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19 Jul 2011 19:47:39
My sources (from RWH) have come back and told me that Arsenal are looking at Sao Paulo pair Bruno Uvini and Lucas These are Wengers next targets after Uvini was targeted as part of the Denilson deal and now Lucas is being chased instead of Joel Campbell, so Wenger has decided to get both in a long term payment deal Typical Arsene
Arsenal also want to sign Cahill this week to get him on the trip to Germany but its a small window and it will be done quickly and as quietly as possible

Gaffer

{Ed022's Note - This transfer (Cahill) has been knocking about since the end of the season in May. If Wenger wanted his team sorted for pre-season surely he'd have wrapped it up by name. As for the Brazilian boys, I have heard of Lucas but not the other one. I am sure they'll be great, in 5 years..}

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Cahill will be signed after germany dependin on whether bartley impresses wenger enough
BD

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19 Jul 2011 18:50:46
Bolton have made a complaint about Jack Wilshere's comments on twitter about Gary Cahill joining Arsenal.

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Its one rule for Arsenal and one for everyone else. Bunch of hypocrites

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Watch it we'll get f**ked for those comments but all's fine and dandy with Barca.

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Wenger is the hypocrite, moaning about Mancini and Barcelona when Arsenal are just as bad

{Ed022's Note - It's like Fergie moaning that he wants the whistle blown at the end of a game if his team are winning. The same Fergie who insists of 4, 5 or even 6...hours of injury time if his team are losing. Most managers want everything their own way. Most managers are hypocrites. Wenger included.}

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What did jack say on twitter?

{Ed022's Note - I think they are talking about the ones posted in the first week of June when Gary Cahill and Jack Wilshere were playing golf together during an England camp before the Internationals. It was on the lines of "Trying to convince Big Gaz to join me at Arsenal."}

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Can i ask waht he said, cus i cant find anything, unless hes removed ih

{Ed022's Note - See above for details...}

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He hasnt criticised Bolton in way way though unlike Barca players against Arsenal

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He was joking

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Jack was stupid to say those things, we complain about Barcelona and Man City and our standards are much higher. Arsene needs to have a word.

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19 Jul 2011 18:43:47
Peruvian Sports Newpaper today " Tottenham, Arsenal and Aston Villa, thought to be interested in acquiring Paolo Guerrero ST from Hamburg"...

PS: Arsenal Scouts at the Copa Libertadores Sub-20 were inquiring about two young players...Jorge Bazan LM from Alianza Lima and Andy Polo ST from Universitario de Deportes...

Peruvian Gooner

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19 Jul 2011 16:55:21
edd as u said the honda deal looks unlikely how about in january and how much would be worth in january {Ed002's Note - No idea about the money - they want 25M euro. Arsenal had the chance for less than half that last January. I don't see it dragging out until next January.}

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We wont sign Honda unfortunately, its a money issue as always with arsene
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19 Jul 2011 16:24:50
Let cesc go for about 20mil + David villa then use that 20 mil to but juan mata

Arsenal 4 life

What do you think ed {Ed002's Note - David Villa has always turned down the chance to play outside of Spain. I don't think I would want that as an issue. Perhaps Affelay as a makeweight.}

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That would be a good deal for cesc but will never happen. villa is valued higher than cesc for some strange reason
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Villa is most likely on massive wages, and nearing 30. He'd have very little re-sale value and who's to say he'd immediately hit top form in England. He had a rather poor second half of last season. Can't see Wenger wanting to bring him in, assuming he'd even want to leave Barca.

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Cesc Fabregas - worth £40m .. NO MORE

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Ed, u say that villa has turned down many chances to come to england, but i remember him saying once in an interview, just after arsenal sold henry... that he would love to play for arsenal as he is a fan of the style of play.
so im sure if arsenal could afford him, he wouldn't mind, not saying he will.
i think for arsenal, the best possible swap has to be thiago if only barca would not include the bay back clause.

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David Villa is one of the finest finishers in the game. Take a look at his stats and goals/games, quite remarkable. He would score for fun at Arsenal and him being 30yrs old would not bother me one bit. He will not leave barca, they are literally Spain(world cup winners) + Messi. They will not lose spains most prolific scorer from the equation

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19 Jul 2011 16:26:44
quoted from ESPN.com

"Arsenal had been expected to tie up a £900,000 deal for Campbell, who plays for Deportivo Saprissa, but it is thought a rival club has offered superior terms."

It seems that yet again another team has offered something better than us....deja vu

Scooby dooby K

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No the kid doesnt wana come cos he is focusin on the U20 world cup n is a fool
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Sounds a bit like the Anelka situation years ago with his brother, better off without him. The thing I cant get my head round is the fact that Arsenal keep doing business with Man City. I think Arsene Wenger has one year left on his contract and he'll be off to City also.

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He will vanish in to thin air and when he is 30 he will look back at what could of bean and feel sick

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Only focusing on it aswell cause his Dad had a word in his ear... In otherwards have a great U20 campaign and than boom, massive offer... We are better off without him

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I heard this morning that United were also interested in him. Not sure how accurate this rumour is.

Sydney!

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Considering the amount of players Man City has in their squad, it's their problem. You think Arsenal can't give away Bendtner? Citeh can't even give away guys like Adebayor because of the wages they earn. AFAIC, Campbell wants the money? Fine; now deal with the fact you won't even get a shout in the reserves. LOL.

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Have Arsenal said anything no, sounds exactly like Bendtners father , trying to put up the price.

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19 Jul 2011 15:22:02
I dont think Cahill will come, Wenger Would have had him in for Pre-season Tour..
Buy Buy Buy not Sell Sell Sell

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He wanted to asses Bartley in Asia but he didnt recover in time so it was a wasted exercise, he will decide on the Germany trip which Bartley is expected to be on.
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19 Jul 2011 15:02:22
Hi Ed, I think Arsenal is running a Five years rolling strategic plan (from 2005 - 2010). Major goals were to move to a new stadium and sustainably maintaining the team at top four of EPL. In my opinion I think Arsenal managed to do that and even winning FA. According to AW statement at the end of the last season he promised to make major changes to the team (as he embark to another 5yrs plan I guess). If that is true then we might see major changes. Ed, any opinoin? From close look of Ivan Gazidis statements it seems this is not going to happend. My worry is we keep producing young good players but we can't keep them when they ready and very good to move to the next level. I am afraid soon Arsenal is going to be like Ajax just a selling club. Ed, can we call ourself a big club?? While clubs like Barca and City are bulling us.

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I agree with a large proportion of your comment. However, not the'bullying' comment, as we have managed to prise approx £50 million from City for Adebayor (hardly a success & will have cost City a fortune in wages & transfer fee devalutaion), Toure (On a drugs ban & again they would take a huge loss should they decide to sell him) & Clichy (never an adequate replacement for Ashley Cole & will not be missed). Barcelona signed Henry for £16m & he left on a free, having cost a fortune in wages. His 80 games in 3 seasons probably cost Barca £250,000 per match, if my maths is correct, assuming wages of £1.2m per season. Hleb was an unmitigated disaster. Petit & Overmars at combined cost of £32 million hardly lit up Camp Nou. Having to pay £35m plus to resign a player who walked out on them for nothing, is again not the greatest piece business.

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It seems to me, that with your logic, you cant call Arsenal a big club, because they are not the biggest ?

The Eiger is a big mountain, but its not as big as everest. Therefore, is it a small mountain ? Depends who is looking at it I suppose. Messi will look at Arsenal as a good team, but maybe not a 'big' team. But then he is looking at it from the biggest team in the world..

There are many more below us, than above us.

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19 Jul 2011 14:43:03
Arsenal have closed the door on their attempts to sign Costa Rican striker Joel Campbell, after neither the player or his father turned up to a scheduled meeting last night.
The paper La Nacion, which has had several exclusives about the story, leads with the headline 'Joel Campbell stood Arsenal up'.
The President of his club Saprissa, Juan Carlos Rojas, confirmed:
"It's a disappointment for football, for Saprissa and for me that they have decided not to take up an offer from as serious and first-class people as Arsenal. I hope it works out for Joel.
I assume his father thinks that things will get better and that's why he made this decision, but hey, there's always a risk. It's a shame that Costa Rican football could not have a player at Arsenal at this time."
All parties were due to meet at 7pm at the Intercontinental Hotel for a final meeting before Richard Law departed for London. Humberto Campbell claimed he and his son were absent due to the medical tests that were being undertaken, but Arsenal were suitably unimpressed to pull out of the deal. Rojas confirmed:
"There is no other option; the doors are closed."
Humberto Campbell seemed unmoved by the news:
"If the Arsenal option is closed there is no problem. When one door closes, many open."
It's quotes like that which will lead people to infer than another club has already been in his ear.
The news has to go down as another blow to Arsenal's summer transfer plans, after we just missed out on Argentinian midfielder Ricky Alvarez despite sending Law out to try and do out a deal. It does, however, seem that in this case the player's father made it more trouble than it was worth.

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Almost speechless - focus on proven players until we win something then take a punt or two. Leave Humberto to enjoy the sun.

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19 Jul 2011 14:40:36
ed what is the deal with all of the rumours saying joel cambell not turning up is this true {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

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They are 100% accurate

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He wants to focus on U20 world cup cos he is an idiot

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Seems like his father is hoping to attract interest from more clubs following the U20's, and thus, higher wages.

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19 Jul 2011 14:12:51
So...it looks like fab maybe on his way- a great pity, but thanks and goodluck to him.

IF that is the case, as a replacement, will Arsene go out and buy someone like hamsik, etc. 20mil + let's say ? or find a 'decent' player for 10 mil or so?

Or- has people have been speculating, would this mean going all out to get mata, with nasri moving into a more central role...?
London Gooner

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19 Jul 2011 13:47:58
Arsenal should sign GK Viviano from Inter as he is about to be released outright due to termination of co-owership with Genoa. He would be ideal as experienced cover for Szczesny. Fabianski was decent last year but I'm not confident in him.

They should buy a European CB as the English players are all overpriced. Howedes from Schalke, Tasci rom Stuttgart, Mertesacker from Bremen, Ciani from Bordeaux are all similar level as say Cahill, Jagielka, and Samba, but significantly less expensive.

I hope Cesc stays, but if they get an overwhelming offer from Barca, they must take it. Use this fee immediately on a Vidal, who like Nasri, will be out of contract next year. I have hear 11-13m. Arda Turan also would be a great signing as he is just to good to play in Turkey forever. I would also buy depth at DM in a Melo, who didn't travel with Juve to USA, or Matuidi, who would love to play in England.

Nasri must stay and be resigned to a long term deal.

Bendtner must be sold, not loaned or this will drag on again next window. Almunia as well.

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19 Jul 2011 12:00:40
edd any intrest from arsenal for honda. seems like blackburn want him {Ed002's Note - Arsenal, like Liverpool, may have blown their chance of Honda in January when he was available for about £8M. Although it is coming up to mid-season in Russia, Wolfsburg and Juventus were interested in Honda but the player says he wants to move to Spain and the 25M euro asking price put them off. I really don't see Blackburn as a viable option.}

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19 Jul 2011 11:44:04
Arsenalyeti / eman / anyother interested parties/ ed's

Yeti, your one man crusade is now starting to lose credence based on inaccurate quotes and a huge slice of sensationalism you add behind other people's comments.
You will recall (if you so choose) that the very first post you and I shared, was when I said to you that you should not be concerned about singing at the ground and to ignore those around you that gave you the dirty looks you mentioned, SING LOUD SING PROUD was actually my comment
I believe that you have now made a sport of this whole negative thing, choosing to interpret any message other than we love arsene / arsenal as negative, this is more your perception than reality. If you were actually reading my posts rather than planning your responses, you will see that I do not slate the CLUB in fact I remind many that the CLUB is bigger than arsene wenger or the board and has been around a lot longer and will continue to do so long after. It is Arsenal Football Club not Arsene Football Club.
Yes I clearly have issues with certain elements of the squad and decisions that are made, that is my right and my opinion. It can be argued that I am right or that I am wrong in my opinions, results however do not lie or leave much open to the imagination, they are simply facts.
Your beef is with those that appear to have a view other than acceptance, mine is with those that simply act like sheep following the shepherd blindly where ever he may go.
You may think that is loyalty, What if the shepherd is leading you to the slaughter house? Would you follow? ( ps this is not symbolic of arsenals position, so please don't respond that I think arsenal are f***d or anything, it was simply an example)
I agree that there are examples of people stepping over the mark in both directions, and one of my most head scratching issues is how people do absolve wenger of all wrong doing I am not looking to hang the man, I personally think he has made a mistake, hence my failed experiment post, you could argue it was a successful experiment in that he kept us in the CL having spent next to nothing I am not conceited enough to say I am right you are wrong, it's just my opinion.
Now, in my opinion your biggest crime and bearing in mind I supported you initially and suggested that you stayed on the site, is to say you have lost respect for my posts because I did not accept FREE tickets, so basically what you are saying is that someone that accepts Free tickets whilst not choosing to spend their own money and shows no sign of principles or convictions is someone you would respect? Sorry yeti but you have to appreciate you have now lost all my respect and I would not be surprised if it were many others as well.
Your element of sensationalism on this point, the club would go into bankruptcy ? That ticket was bought and paid for, so how does me turning it down affect the club? In your wide criticism of everyone else I think you need to look a little deeper and be able to have the quality to be self critical before making such comments.
Just to give another example and maybe so you understand how my thought process works on this, if you asked me to give or raise money for Great Ormond Street I would happily give, if you asked me to give / raise money to a war torn countries starving people, I would not. It is not that I do not care for them; it is simply that I do not believe the money would go to the right places, and therefore I am adding to the original problem. Money in my opinion is not being invested in the area's I personally would like, simple as that.

Eman

I am not judging wenger halfway through the transfer window, my post was about the experiment that has gone on for 6 years, and you suggest patience Still At what point do people say hang on? When wenger has left? With respect you do chop and change a bit, any schizophrenia in the family? Lol.

Finally and what could stop this post being shown

Ed's
Days ago I / my PC accused of sending an abusive message for no apparent reason, yesterday Ed calls my post pathetic, today Ed says he is tired of reading posts about the arsenal complaints.
Question, do the Ed's want traffic, banter, whether it be good or bad (boundaries applying) rumours etc or do you want only happy messages agreeing the world is a happy smiley place? Is the site now so popular that you wish to choose your clientele and edit responses that you do not like or personalities that do not mirror that of the individual ed's? is the question, is it ed's or ego's these days? Despite recent events I have always been respectful towards the majority on here especially the ed's but I am left asking myself this question .. Have the ed's taken over the asylum?
It would be a shame if this stops my post, but you're the boss.
Ike. {Ed002's Note - Firstly, and yet again as you do appear to keep wanting to bring this matter up, I banned the IP associated with a particularly foul post. The message was unsigned and as I have yet to memorise every IP of every poster, I had no idea it was you. Regardless of that, the message originated with the IP address that was subsequently banned. If you do wish to continue to drag this matter out, I can ask all of the other Eds to leave you posts and I will deal with them as and when I have time. As for your other comment, I don't know which Ed has you miffed, but I would recommend just letting it drop. I really don't see anything other than grief by continuing to discuss it.}

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Here, Here.... Stop annoying us with your pointless crusade

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MY posts dont get put up i think the ed's have their fav's on here {Ed007's Note - If you haven't got a name how can we deliberately not put your posts up?}

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Eman,

Your post isn't banter, it's a long whinge mucker. Yeti is a bit over the top but i can read his posts without wanting to slit my wrists so it's an improvement on some of the posters. Why don't you spread your love on the Spuds' site. They deserve to be morose. Now, more importantly Cesc is probably off but i have a feeling that we'll be getting Gourcuff, Melo and Jags in - i would love to say Benzema as well but that would be too much to hope for - this August with Samir re-signing on a long term contract. Team to win the treble [Carling was never my favourite tipple]:
Chezzer
Sagna Kosher/Cahill Vermaelen Gibbs
Melo/Song
Nasri/Gourcuff Wilshere
Gervinho Walcott/Benzema (I wish) RVP

Opening day: Toon 1 Arsenal 5 (Walcott hat-trick with the third hit so hard that Barton's head is taken clean off his shoulders and ends up nestling in the top corner with the ball). The Arsenal, The Arsenal

Herrick Gooner

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So your now goin on your own crusade you hypocrit. just give it a rest will ya, are you tht desperate that your havin a moan at a man hired to be called Ed rather that doin somethin productive {Ed007's Note - Hired? LMAO. We don't get paid for this, we do it for the love of our individual clubs and football in general, but I know what you mean, and thanks for the support}

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Your welcome
BD

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Perhaps make it like twitter and have a character limit ? Im a bit bored of reading the memoirs of a bored football fan every time I come on here.

Daniel {Ed007's Note - Everybody is entitled to post what the want as long as it meets the sites guidelines. Longer posts are actually better than "on-liners" as they make points for others to answer. A character limitation would not work on a site like this, and there is always the option not to read what you don't want to.}

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Ladies - i admire your passion but surely you can think of something better to do than bitch between yourselves. You've even got the eds at it, and now this message will not go to post lol
Also edd can't you create a cry baby page and leave the rumors and banter alone?

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The fella has a right to his opnions and not all of them are far off the mark. I remember being on the North Bank towards the end at Highbury and witnessing Senderos having a nightmare. He wasn't helped out by his team-mates constantly passing the ball back to him. I shouted out at one point exactly that; "Don't keep giving him the ball - he's having a f**king nightmare" Some old fart turns around to me and asks me what sort of Arsenal supporter I am. My response was one that had his eyes open and wanted to see his team win.

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Haha this guy is great u havent put your name tho so do u think wenger shound stay , leave or be sacked , i agree alot with what u say were not judgeing wenger half way throuth this transfer season its been the last 6 years and even if we were judgeing him on this transfer season who cares , we shound have all our players before pre season so they can bond .... we havent spent a penny for years now INFACT we make money with all our sales so what we waiting for

i think this sums it alllllll up , i dont know how spell his bl, , , y name lol but if our young polish lad gets injured were going be left with them other clowns in goal cart beleive that the great beauitful side we have had over the past 3 years has been backed up with the goal keepers and defence we have had PURELEY on that basis wenger shound go . it hurts me alot to say it but nahhhhh i cart accept that

tony too

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19 Jul 2011 13:30:36
Has anyone heard anything about Arsenal being interested in Hamsik?, ed help me out... {Ed002's Note - Hamsik - nope.}

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Im sick as well mate

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19 Jul 2011 13:30:10
Barca boss is now saying that Arsenal are negotiating a fee for Fabregas, thank god for that, we don't need players who want to play for someone else.Lets hope the money gets spent on a decent replacement.

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The money wont be spent thats the whole problem with this saga. And who in the world is as good, and as proven, as cesc, who will cost less ?

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We should let him go but for a fee that we decide not Barca, or should say flat out to barca to go away due to constant disrespect

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19 Jul 2011 13:22:47
Nasri the new Arsenal Captain.....Cesc is leaving for barca for £35M.
Nasri will sign 2 years contract with 110,000/w.

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Nasri will not be the captain.

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I believe Fabregas will finally depart. Its interesting that you echo my thoughts exactly, as I believe Nasri will be offered Fabregas's role, captaincy, salary & a signing on fee ( which Fabregas received when he signed his last contract, I seem to recall a £2.5 million payment). The only point to take into account is that giving the Captaincy to Nasri might upset Van Persie.

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I agree, just because he'd be the highest earner doesn't make him a captain. Should be Vermaelen.

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If Nasri is made captain, i'm stopping going to the games. He's not Arsenal material, never mind captain. He's weak, doesn't play through the pain barrier, and is holding us to ransom over his wages. Good riddance to him if he goes. Lightweight whinger. I wouldn't have RVP as captain either. A captain is a centre back or possibly central midfielder or gk. It's someone who plays every week, and someone who would run through a brick wall for his team mates, and badge. Adams, Keown, Parlour etc. We need players of that ilk, to compliment the ones with the technical ability. Our squad lacks captains, that's why we no longer win trophies.

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I agree with last poster. Vermaelen should be captain. Nasri wont be offered captain

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I think that would be a huge mistake. Vermaelen is up to it, just like RVP

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Have to agree with you guys, I don't see nasri as capt at all- not committed enough for my liking, talented player no doubt, but a little too 'temperamental'. TV seems the only real choice or RVP.
London Gooner

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Spot on boys masri no captain of arsenal lets get players in who dont keep moaning and just get on with it

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19 Jul 2011 13:13:40
SSN: Pep Guardiola: Arsenal have agreed to negotiate the sale of Cesc Fabregas to Barcelona

Essex Gooner

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More news Guardiola is i plank who is talkin rubbish cos he thinks by sayin things they will happen

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19 Jul 2011 12:11:21
Ed, do you think there's any chance of us getting Benzema on loan?

I think (hope) if he were to come on loan he'd want to stay after experiencing the way we play..

James {Ed002's Note - Loan, no.}

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Why not? Real are getting other players and will want to see how they get on. Benzema would still be playing at the top level so would stay sharp incase they want to keep him and how he performs will justify his price tag either way.

I don't see why not since we loaned in julio baptista from them a while ago..

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I really don't see why they would want to loan him out to us. If Mourinho has faith in him, they'll keep him at the club and he'll play. If not, they'll bring in another forward or two and either sell him or bench him.

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Well surely if they were gonna just bench him then they'd be better off having someone else pay his wages and keeping him match sharp..

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19 Jul 2011 11:42:02
hi ed, as you may know i have never posted any rumour on this site just mainly had my say on wenger the board and the lack of spending money on transfers.
anyway, i have just come back from germany attending a engagement party for 1 of the students that has been coming over to us for nearly 10 years, this lad is a sports journalist and gets to meet players and agents so i ask him to keep his ears open on any arsenal transfer through europe.
the word is we are after a player from belgium and a player that plays in germany but is not germnan
to be honest i have never been 1 for rumours i think there a smoke screen for real targets have you heard anything ED to back up what i have been told.
AND LADS DONT HOLD IT AGAINST ME IF ITS NOT TRUE SEEING AS ITS MY 1ST RUMOUR AND IM GOING TO SIGN MY NAME AT THE BOTTOM.
MARK WEXFORD

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The only Belgian playing in Germany I can think of is van Buyten which would not happen as he is a bit similar to Mertesacker in terms of height and speed and is 33 years old.

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Did he say the Belgian played in Germany? If not, it's quite possibly Vertonghen, Lukaku or Hazard. The foreigner who plays in Germany could be Werder Bremen defender Naldo who Wenger has been interested in for a couple of years.

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I did not say a belgium player playing in germany read what i posted
mark wexford

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It could be ribbery on the left and nasri down the middle.
i would take that any day of the week

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Vertonghen and Vidal?

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Its vidal

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19 Jul 2011 12:55:22
reports cesc has gone to barca

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Sorry my bad: both clubs negotiating

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What the hell are you talking about? guardiola JUST spoke, and he said nothing of the sort. Infact, cesc is still resoundingly an Arsenal player untill proven otherwise.

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What reports?

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Please quote one source so we can check and verify for ourselves.

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Stop listenin to the voice in your head

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19 Jul 2011 11:42:48
Joel Campbell transfer is DEAD.... He failed to show up for a medical, after reading quotes form his Father yesterday, its seems as if we were blown out of the water on personal terms and the greedy git is going to City..

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Cos he is a fool

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19 Jul 2011 11:28:51
Has anybody else heard the latest rumours regarding Ken Aguero.

Its thought there are a few prem clubs interested in cluding Arsenal and Liverpool.

Personally I think Ken would be a great signing

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Dat kun agueros brother?

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His woman, Barbie, is a fox

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Do you mean Kun? I think Ken is currently signed for Coronation Street.

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Yh and john mata. its kun Aguero. how do you expect to be taken seriously when you make basic errors

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I believe he is referring to an old joke on the football rumours website where someone misspelt it as ken aguero. Following this all sorts of rumours appeared of ken joining various clubs for a packet of crisps and all sorts.

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Yes we do want ken aguero, along with john mata and karren benzema. also expect a cheeky bid from wenger for eden harrods

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COME ON don't you guys remember this joke

Original Poster

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Sergio "KUN" aguero my friend.

Ras Cal

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19 Jul 2011 11:20:44
Just Heard that Arsenal have agreed a fee with Barcelona to sell Cesc Fabregas for 20 million plus David Villa and they will both discuss personal terms with the clubs in next 24 hours

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That would be good for cesc, good for arsenal but would david villa come? personally i'd love it, but cant see him wanting to leave the european champs..

The Night Doctor..

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I cant believe that Weger would sign a player who is almost 30 on a long term contract & is currently paid well in excess of our current wage structure. A player exchange might be the only way Barca can purchase Fabregas, but Villa it wont be.

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Be realistic, villa is old but would still cost in excess of £30m plus recently said he wants to finish his career at barca

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19 Jul 2011 11:15:26
Arsenal lads - Im a Leeds fan and was wondering what your take is on Sanchez Watt - apparently we are trying to tie up a deal for 1.5mill to take him back to Elland Rd... however when i came to the Emirates in the F.A cup last season (lucky) he was given a excellent reception by your fans... do you rate him..?
Good Luck this season boys

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HE seems ok but i'm not sure if he is good enough for the arsenal first team.

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As an Arsenal fan, I like the player, but he isnt good enough to play for Arsenal & Im sure he will be a qulaity signing for Leeds.

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In general, Arsenal give good receptions to all loanees and ex players, unless some acrimonty regarding their departure.

Watt ios a decent player - but the fact we are happy to let him go speaks volumes.

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He would do well at a mid to bottom half prem team like bolton so would be good for leeds but just cant cut it for arsenals first team

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19 Jul 2011 11:11:32
Karim Benzema to sign for Arsenal in next 48 hours

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I would love Benzema to sign, but I am certain he will require wages way in excess of our current structure.

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He's only just come out and said he wants to stay and fight for his place and that he hasn't spoken to any other clubs Stop talking s**t

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19 Jul 2011 11:02:35
Bad news guys. Not sure if anyone will carw but still.
We've pulled out of the the Joel Campbell deal apparently. He didn't turn up for his medical (supposed to be last night). He also has a history of being a bit of a nutter.

Saprissa did say Arsenal behaved excellently throughout the transfer though, which I guess is good, but considering Campbell himself said it was a 'no-brainer' to play for Arsenal he's either incredibly stupid or hypocritical.

On the plus side-As part of the Denilson loan deal, Arsenal have been invited to take a closer look at Uvini (youtube him) at Sao Paolo, he'll be scouted at the U20 World Cup.
Eman.

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Even if Campbell signs for us, there are a lot of hurdles. Will he be able to obatin a work permit or will he be loaned out to a club in Spain, as has happened with other non-qualifying players? Im certain there is something in the Denilson move to Sao Paolo.. lets see.

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He looked good but listened to his father too much so has decided to wait for offers after the world cup but his behavior would have been noted by other top clubs and may put them off due to the poor attitude shown

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19 Jul 2011 11:00:08
Arsenal Pull Out Of Joel Campbell Signing After He Failed To Turn Up For Medical Meeting..

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19 Jul 2011 10:17:11
Interesting article in today's Guardian...Ivan Gazidis saying Arsene Wenger has a 'substantial transfer budget' to spend- well that's good news, I hope it is spend well.

Gazidis quoted:

"in the face of supporter frustrations at the relative lack of in-coming deals thus far, Gazidis made it plain that Wenger had identified the squad's shortcomings and he would be backed in the quest to address them".

"We still will be active in this window, " "We haven't finished our business at all. We're just not conducting it publicly. We're working hard privately. We understand where the weaknesses have been.

"Gazidis is aware that a section of the support crave a big-money statement signing..." he went on: "If we found an established, world-class player and we thought the economics made sense and he would add to what we could do on the pitch, then there's no philosophical objection to that, "

Sounds all good I just hope this time it happens...

I heard the Gazidis quote on the radio so I goggled it and saw something else with a very similar headline, only from May 2010...so out of curiosity I clicked on it- Essentially it was saying 'Arsene to bolster defence with big transfer budget' and that arsenal are linked with Borussia Dortmund's Neven Subotic, Palermo's Simon Kjaer, and Pape Malickou Diakhate of Dinamo Kiev.

hmm...who did we end up signing again last summer, with our big budget to bolster our defence...?

To repeat I hope what gazidis is saying is going to happen-but I will believe it when it happens, sorry to sound cynical but we've heard it all before.

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Arsenal have had the ability to spend for some time now. I remember ex-director Keith Edelman stating that Wenger had £100 million at his disposal, if he wanted it. Shortly after this comment Edelman was gone Usmanov also suggested rasing £100 million for Wenger to spend as well. I believe that Wenger/Arsenal deliberately ensure that the club are not known as big spenders, which enables them to have made some superb low cost signings during Wenger's tenure. Vieira, Henry, Pires, Vermaelen, Van Persie... the list is endless. It is clear that Wenger sees no sense in paying absurdly high transfer fees & wages. Is Jordan Henderson seriously worth £20m Phil Jones £16m?, Stewart Downing £20m? Compared to Vermaelen £10m, Nasri £11m, Sagna £6m... Paying enormous sums doesnt guarantee the PL Or the CL titles. Man City have spent zillions to win an F A Cup, that was won not so long ago by Portsmouth

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Sorry, posted by London Gooner.

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You make some very good and valid points and I agree that arsenal try to ensure, as far as possible, that they are kept out of the crazy fees, etc being paid these days and have bought exceptionally and shrewdly well over the years.

Of course throwing money around doesn't assurance success- again agreed.

But - after 6 trophy less seasons, questions are being asked from some fans and each season it has become more and more frustrating...this nearly, but not quite team and when you see some of the flaws week in week out..? Money does not guarantee anything, but some key signings to rectify these 'flaws', could make all the difference to this arsenal team- for me it's not about spending silly money, but buying proven quality in key areas- perhaps 2-3 players at most? This might mean spending slightly more than usual, but could very well make all the difference, from being a nearly team, to a more competitive 'complete' team. just my view.
London Gooner

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I know what you mean re city spending a sackfull of money but the thing is that now they've won something, and moved up into the champs league, they can attract top players which in turn COULD help them achieve the ultimate.. and win the EPL..or even the champs league..as for pompey... Harry spent big money at the time that they didn't really have although the ownership issues at the time didn't help him.. but ask any pompey fan if they'd take away the glory of the day?

The Night Doctor...

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Hi London Gooner,
Thanks for your comments. I think the additional problem of making costly top signings these days is the wages they require & the knock effect that top players already at the club will expect similar salaries As a simple example if Barca pay £35 million Fabregas & reported wages of £150k per week for say 5 years, his total cost over the term of his contract will be approx £74m & that is for one player Hence Barca are over £400m in debt

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Its too late. Arsenal could have followed up the invincibles season by spending a fortune and dominating the league for seasons to come (like utd) - but they just left it as it was and let it burn slowly. 'no philosophical objection'. brilliant. Who the hell uses a term like that? what about ECONOMIC objections? afterall, thats all they care about - and im sure they have plenty of objections tbh.

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Im all for the way arsenal conduct business. The only thing thnat annoys me is that however people want to look at it, we were 2-3 players away from a winning team. a top gk, cb and striker. Thats when wenger needs to just pay up for the right players, theres no shame in spending money on top players. barca do it all the time.

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But last summer, AW bought 2 CBs. One (Koscielny) was seen as a great up and coming star. The other (Squilaci) had lots of success for years and a bunch of National caps. On paper, they seemed like good ideas. Kos will be fine; Squil didn't work out.
In hind sight, they didn't work out well, but it's not because AW didn't get center backs. It's because Squil didn't fit into the team. He'll be fine for someone else after we sell him.

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We always have alot of money but arsene prefers to lure players with haribo rather than money

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19 Jul 2011 09:55:34
If cahill was going to sign for city or chelsea i think the deal would be done, the reason we havent brought him yet is Wengers valuation is short of Boltons.....i dont know this but believe this will be resolved soon.Also a lot hinges on cesc move to barca, who due to spanish banking problems and a massive debt ranging from 200m-350m euros plus the desire to buy Sanchez leaves the spanish giants falling short of Arsenals price tag.A post put on this site a few days ago could be correct, quoting Nasris will stay if cesc leaves.Dont expect to many signings cahill and one more maybe a midfielder, Melo is not travelling with Juve on their pre seson tour which is significant, Wenger tried to sign him a few years back when he was sold for 22m, a price of around 10-12m and no other clubs showing interest and he could be on his way.This information is based on speculation and opinion, and badv selling..

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Some very good points, Melo and Cahill would put some bite in our side and with vermaelen fit who knows.

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Yes, 2 signings like that could make all the difference and be the missing piece of the jigsaw- lets hope so,
London Gooner

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Interesting comments, from what I understand from their accounts (can be seem on line) Barca's debt is in excess of £400 Im certain the banking crisis will affect their ability to borrow further. I am having reservations whether they are actually able to purchase Fabregas, whom I would sell to the highest bidder, if Barca dont purchase him, as I think he is somewhat overrrated, is constantly injured & is showing disloyalty. Dont forget we have recently signed 2 more Barca youngsters & I wouldnt put it past Barca to be messing Fabregas & Arsenal around for internal political reasons or to prove a point. Melo was spotted last year by a reliable friend in a restaurant in Whetstone, North London with his agent. I have heard from strong sources that he may well be on his way this season as he hasnt been popular at Juve. I would love Cahill to sign, but have a horrible feeling we might be after Jagielka, yet another 6ft number two style centre back. The rumours that Bendtner might go on loan to Everton make me suspicious that we are trying to sign a player from them. Hopefully this will be Baines or Fellaini, both of whom I would prefer to Jagielka. All in all it will be an intersting few weeks Be patient fellow Gooners

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19 Jul 2011 09:45:28
Barcelona to offer 35.5m for Fabregas this week.Its likely that Arsenal will accept.

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Hopefully, because I would like to see us rid of Fabregas, who despite being a fine player is no captain in the mould of Adams, Henry or Vieira. He is often injured, his inclusion has changed the shape of our team from the hugely successful 4-4-2 previously used & has never been my cup of tea, not being the quickest of players.

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I sincerely hope that they toss in a player or two as well.
It would be unbearable to hear quotes coming from that classless club on how they got Fabregas on the cheap.

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Always believed the magic number was £35 million, its time to let him go, may warming Barcas bench bring him joy - his heart wasn't in it for us last season

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Fab is worth more, if he goes for the same price as caroll its a disgrace

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19 Jul 2011 07:45:18
the only players IMO coming in are -
Toral - Done
Bellerin - Done
Jenkinson - Done
Gervinho - Done
Campbell - Medical
Cahill - Another 2 weeks and he will join
Possibly Enrique - dependant on how Gibbs does in the next few pre-season games
Mata - dependant on the Nasri/Fabregas situation

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I think he AW should bring in MAta regardless of the Cesc & Nasri situation. I think his arrival could improve their situations.

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Campbell deal is off

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This was written b4 the campbell deal was off and I would want mata regardless but remeber it is Wenger and we have Ramsey as well so he wont feel the need to spend 20mil if he can use Ramsey and let youngsters come up

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