Arsenal Rumours Archive May 21 2012
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21 May 2012 23:15:03
I don't see how everyone can be negative after this season. At the start and the end of the campaign we missed Arteta. Now with the upcoming signing of M'Vila we don't have a weak spot left in the core of the team. The only player we need is a back-up right back. Which can be promoted from the reserve/youth squad. I don't expect any fancy new players this transfer window. Every player that will join is a bonus for me.
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You is mental mate.
only problem area is rb LOL
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Mvil a signing is not yet in the bag from what I hear....so it could all go pear-shaped if the player decides to wait until the euros...and no it won't necessarily be the fault of the club...
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Well said
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Finally some sense, it will be a bonus!
MikEE
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Xyqtt you have said what should be said, I applaud ...
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Hmm well yes and no. We finished out of touch with City and United, nowhere in Europe again, nowhere near a cup, and with the usual list of injuries and threatened departure of our critical star. Oh and usurped as most attractive side by little Swansea and worse still Spurs.
So any player will be a bonus! Yes Arsene continues to work magic with little, yes he is the greatest manager in our history, and yes the poorest Arsenal side in over 10 years still scraped into 3rd. So hats off and most others would be counting their luck.
But, unless we do something significant the best we can hope for next year is a battle for 4th (Chelsea will strengthen), early exit from Europe and no cups again. Remember even Birmingham and Liverpool have managed the odd cup win.
Our squad has a myriad of mundane players no worth their places or their cost. Yes a fully fit first 11 still looks good, but beyond that we are lightweight and wafer thin.
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21 May 2012 21:29:50
Wenger is looking in to Sime Vrsaljko as a utility defender, this is in place of Vertonghen who its looking less likely we will get. Should be around the £8-12 mil mark.
WG
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Always liked the look of this guy, the next Lahm I think! His value is more likely to be around 10m, though.
Ben X.
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10 million is between 8 million and 12 million. duh
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Rather have him than vertongen cos of what vertonghen said about spuds. if we son't get vrsaljko or vertonghen then go for yanga-mbiwa
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^^ I miss read.. Wooops, lol.
Ben X.
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Still don't understand why we just don't buy Sakho. Awesome defender who's confidence took a hit this season, but is still as talented as ever was.
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21 May 2012 16:33:19
I think we should make a move for Assou Ekotto, get him in and send Gibbs out on loan to help him on his way to becoming the next Cole, and keep Santos as back up.
Ekotto is the only player I can think of who is good enough to play for us at LB, who has prem experience, who would be available depending on the offer. SPuds are falling apart, they're set to be raided by top teams for their best players and their aging lot will be on their way out, plus loads of others aren't that happy. I wouldn't mind Assou-Ekotto one bit, I think on the whole he's awesome. I actually prefer him to Baines and he's less than half the value!
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Sorry but just no
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Spuds won't sell him to us. simple as
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Please no!
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He Is Crapp! His Good Going Forward But One Of the Weakest Defenders In The Top Six
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I wouldnt want any of them dirtying my beloved clubs shirt!
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Can we all make or create plausible rumours or at least think of trnasfer dealings that are realistic instead of such comments ...Benoit wouldn't leave for us ...this is not football mgr
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If Ekotto is the only left back you can think of maybe you should watch more football, he's utter crap and that's why he's playing for the pinkies down the road
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Dont like him one "good" season, but can i say to the above that we took sol campbell from spuds and he was a quality centre back for us!!
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We should get Leighton Baines
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Let me know when you want him and I will drive him there myself .
Davo
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You must be a person to think he's any good
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I think davide santon is a much better option would like to see him in arsenal colours
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He's useless. All he does is play diagonal balls over to the left wing?
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Absolute nonsense. I reckon you must be an ED just to get a response! If i could swear at you i would.
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Ekotto is dog sh!t.. Gibbs will be the best left back in the country in two years..would love to be able to rotate him and baines..
Drakey
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Ekotto is probably Spurs worst playing, he is a crap defender. This post must have been made by a Spurs fan as surely they would love to see this transfer.
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21 May 2012 16:01:14
is thorgon hazard any good? {Ed007's Note - Some people rate him higher/better than his brother. He seems to have a better personality.}
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Younger brother? {Ed027's Note - Yes
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Ed how much do you think he would cost? {Ed007's Note - I wouldn't even like to guess, sorry.}
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Eden and Thorgon? The Hazards really know how to name them don't they!
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Eden is much better, but is two years older. Interesting that they play for rival clubs (Lille and Lens) - could move to North London - one for Spurs one for Arsenal!
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How old is he tho?
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Sign him up then...
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We should sign him just to annoy his pr1ck of a brother.
How good would it be if he turned out a lot better than Eden and cost a fraction of the price? Typical wenger?
Northern Gooner
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Spurs have been tracking him for years now. Don't know of anyone else with as much interest at the moment
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21 May 2012 14:48:42
Fiorentina are interested in swapping young playmaker Adem Ljajic for Arsenal striker Marouane Chamakh, according to talkSPORT.
The report claims that the Italian™s chief scout Eduardo Macia has identified Chamakh as a potential signing this summer, and is willing to offer 20-year-old schemer Ljajic in exchange. Both players are valued at £6m by their clubs so a straight swap deal could suit both parties.
Ljajic is a Serbian playmaker who came close to joining Manchester United in 2010 from Partizan, but ended up at Fiorentina after the move to Old Trafford fell through.
The youngster has struggled to make his mark in Serie A this season and recently hit the headlines when he was punched by then coach Delio Rossi, who was subsequently sacked for the incident, after reacting sarcastically to being substituted.
Chamakh has endured a torrid season at Arsenal and made only 11 Premier League appearances last term, scoring just one goal, and it™s widely expected that the 28-year-old will leave the Emirates this summer.
If Arsene Wenger has any sort of interest in Ljajic, then he should consider this swap deal carefully. We need to get Chamakh off the books and if we™re going to get a talented young playmaker in return, then even better.
Would you like Ljajic in return for Chamakh? Get involved in the comments section.
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Yes because anyone is better than Chamakh. On a side note, I wonder how many other people went straight onto youtube to check for footage f that incident haha
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Wouldn't say no if fiorentina came in wiv dat
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Well we could do wiv an attacking mid
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Not sure after him being punched by his coach. might do same for us if we got him
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Why r we even considering dis if he's struggled 4 fiorentina. imagine how bad he would be if we joined us
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I Did Haha
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I have not even heard of this kid, but surely getting Chamakh off the books who is on a silly wage, and gettign a potential 20 year old would be good (he wouldn't expect Chamakh wages) and the rest can go towards keeping RVP!
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No, because Chamakh is a good player. I've watched him for a number of years and I think the criticism that he's received from most Arsenal fans this year has been unfair. He's hardly been given a chance this season because of Van Persie's form. I think we should get rid of Bendtner and keep Chamakh.
Charlie
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If it is true it's an excellent deal. Chamakh, despite the good start, is totally out of sorts with us and Adem Ljajic is a classy siging for the now and the future - another Chambo perhaps.
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Y is it dat peeps keep ritng lyk dis? What is wrong with our education system, and why on earth do you let these posts through?
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Well said Charlie. Theres no more "confidence" position than centre forward, and if you aren't getting games consistently in the same position in the same system with the same players week in week out it's very difficult to get into any kind of form - a much maligned player Chamakh, but I think he's better than most give him credit for. Holds the ball up well and has a great header.
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I am from Belgrade and I can tell you he is incredible talent,he was supposed to be our version of Modric. Truth be told,he has big attitude problems,probably reason why he is not yet in rank of Hazard,Kagawa or Belhanda. Though if anyone can bring him to fulfill his potential,it is wenger! I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM IN ARSENAL SHIRT
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Chamaqu is NOT a good player, he doesnt get a game for a reason if he was that good he would have been starting along side RVP or at least alot more regularly, he is lazy and shows no desire when he comes on, give him to spurs for free in my opinion they like using our old strikers which we have no use for and are on silly money.
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Haha had to youtube it, that's hilarious
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If they have scouted cham this season why would they want him? Terrible player, this seems to be the other guys agent getting his players name in the press!
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21 May 2012 12:39:37
ed what are the chances of seeing big Martin Skrtel at the emirates next year. He is refusing to sign a new contract and is asking for a transfer due to liverpools failiure to get into the champions league. Same price as verthongen but imo a lot better with prem experience.
kb {Ed001's Note - not true, he has not refused to sign a new contract, there have been no discussions with him regarding one.}
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If he were to join, even discounting Djourou, we would have 4 mature top CB's all wanting regular 1st team football, so it makes no sense, same goes for Vertonghen. We also have Miquel & Bartley coming through.
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Would luv him at arsenal but don't think itt'll happen unforuantly:(
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He is off to Machester City, and that is a fact!
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21 May 2012 13:59:48
arsenal swap deal with chamak & Adem Ljajic, seems like a good deal to me if true.
newsnow.com
-Homesick-
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No Thanks. I would rather the cash. Adem Ljajic never really lived up to his "wonderkid" potential.
That is 6mln towards Belhanda for me. (In an ideal scenario).
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Good deal indeed
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21 May 2012 13:52:48
hearing Chamakh to be swapped for fiorentinas Ljajic is there any truth to this and is Ljajic a good player havnt seen him play at all
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He's been called a prospect by some, others think he won't get much better, there was a incident recently where he reacted badly to being subbed, mutter something to his coach and his coach, dello Rossi, subsequently attacked him, Rossi was sacked by fiorentina and Ljaic said he wanted to go, shortly after Rossi said that Llajic insulted his mother in Serbian, which Llajic denies, so he's definetly temperamental, do I want us to have a bit of bite? Yes. Do I want refs to hand out more cards to us than they do anyway? No.
If we're taking him because it's a way of offloading chamakh and getting a decent player in return, I'd take it, if we're doing it because he's the top level of quality we're after this summer, I'm donning my Roma shirt and watching Serie A next year.
Plus do we really need another winger?
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Ed is this true? {Ed027's Note - Not heard anythin mate, althought the Fiorentina are interested
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He has already been in the prem and did not do well he and tosic signed for manU and failed spectacularley {Ed027's Note - Ljajic didnt sign the deal collapsed
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21 May 2012 13:30:57
Reports coming out that Arsenal have been approached about a deal involving Arshavin and Zenit left back Domenico Criscito. Zenit now waiting on Arsenals decision.
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I bloody hope so! Two birds one stone.
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Just saw a video of him, doesn't look to bad, might be a good signing
shiv
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This seems unlikely, Cristsoco is on a 80k a week contract.
We have 2 recognised LBs, plus vermaelen.
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If that's true, I'd take it do fast it's unreal I love Domenico Criscito, and I feel we need a senior left back, Gibbs is too injury prone but he's still developing and santos is a winger! (not going off on my usual rant there) my only problem is that I like arsh and think he still has something to give, if he was just played in a cam position.
Where did you get this from by the way?
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Offloading arshavin will free a lot of wages and we can then get rid of santos so i can see it being a positive move for arsenal. tidy up the squad a bit, we need a reliable left back that gibbs can work under..
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What is ur source? just i ain't heard it
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Easy decision-YES!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Doubt it
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Fingers crossed this is true
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Sorry D, my brother lives in Russia he is a Zenit fan so i got a text earlier today with him bragging about getting Arshavin. Apparently its in the papers over there I only came on here to see what people had to say about it (it confused my why he was bragging about losing Criscito!) suprised it hasnt been brought up yet. I am trying now to find a link so it will be posted soon!
Walle
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He Played Cam for Russia And Was Still Rubbish Please Stop With the Excuses
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We need a left back who can defend. Gibbs has all the positional sense of a traffic cone and whilst I like Andre Santos, he's an attacking player, not a defender, so if this geezer's any good then why not get him? Arshavin might still have a future elsewhere, but he's a busted flush at AFC.
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Ah cheers for clarifying mate, I wasn't being sarcastic or anything either just do you know, it's genuinely interested me as Im a fan of both players, I think we'd benefit from Criscito, and arsh would get to go where he plays best at zenit.
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21 May 2012 12:20:30
Just went through various gunners blog..and other sites..(dribal football).
Apparently Anzhi is willing to make a bid of 45m Quids fr our in form Lone striker!
I wud personally escort to their door steps fr dat kind of money...45m Quids means.. (Girourd + Lewandowski)
damn!
[Ed - Wat do u think, is 300k per week and a transfer sum of 45m, enough to lure both wenger n persie?] {Ed007's Note - Ask the people on the site that you read it on. We are not here to comment on every piece of BS that is on other sites.}
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"We are not here to comment on every piece of BS that is on other sites"
I think you already did. It's BS!
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I imagine Anzhi said RVP could stay in London and take a private jet over for matches. :)
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OUCH ED lol
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21 May 2012 13:25:39
Seeing Chelsea are issuing a deadline for our decision on whether we want Yossi or not. I appreciate everything the guy has done for us this season but if we sign him permanently I will go in to hibernation for the rest of the summer.
It would be admitting that we are heading in the direction of Liverpool.
TRAGIC
StEvE
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Not really, the guy has proven to be a good squad player to have around and has also popped up with some important goals.
He also gave 100% everytime he played, more so than many Arsenal players, which says something considering he isn't even an Arsenal player!
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Steve what this post fails to even consider is that fact that despite being a Chelsea 'reject' he has been brilliant this season, has pooped up with vital goals and has been integral to keeping our midfield ticking over when we make subs. He's been an amazing squad player and we would be stupid not to take him on.
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There are hundreds of better players and to take a player 32 years of age and pay him high wages to sit on the bench or worse is ludicrous. All it would say is "yes all we want is to finish 4th" he is not good enough at 32 to help us push for a trophy.
It's less about Benayoun himself and more what signing him would represent.
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Bennys been a damn sight more productive than a few I can mention. Ramsey for one. He would be happy as a fringe player, and at a snip.
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I don't see how...
He has been an excellent squad player who has scored some important goals and you reward that by calling him a 'TRAGIC' signing?
Trophy isn't about how good your first team is because in reality how many injuries are they likely to get? With quality squad players like Benayoun we could lose someone to injury and still have strength in depth in that position. Thats what wins you titles.
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I think we should go with him, Epl Experience(City hav taken players from us who went on to help Win them a Title - Traditionally we don't do well on this aspect)/Good Attitude/Can Win Us Games. I hav to add that I never understood why El Prof played Ramsey so much, perhaps he's all we had.
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21 May 2012 12:52:50
Looks like attempts to sign Vertonghen could be over as the Evening Standard reports the only club he will join if he comes to England is Spurs
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I don't understand what kind of weirdo would 'only join Spurs'. That's like saying 'I will only aspire to be second best at best'. I don't buy the whole 'first team football' argument at all, it's up to him to come here and earn his place if he's good enough. He should be honoured that we are even interested, we're Arsenal. So if he only wants to join spuds then good on him, happy no champs league or trophies there buddy! You have to wonder what Bergkamp is saying to these players though...
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If its in the evening standard it must be true
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Because no top Premier club has gone in for him. Arsenal do not need another left-sided Centre Back & I believe Wenger is happy with Merte, Vermaelen, Kos, Djourou & Miquel.
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There wouldn't be any trophies at your lot either
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He is not a big a joker as Podolski then , joining Arsenal to win ( ??? ) trophies
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21 May 2012 12:38:39
Apparently we're interested in getting Villarreal's Diego Lopez as back up to Szczesny. If you ask me it would be a brilliant signing if it were to happen. He will be relatively cheap because Villarreal are relegated and would definitely keep Szczesny on his toes as he is a class keeper who has played 200+ games for them.
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Hes to good to be a back up
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Would like to see him at arsenal but knowing wenger he will probably go for the cheap option (craig Gordon)
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I agree with the first reply. He is too good to accept being a back up however it would be a great signing..
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He has signed for Sevilla
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21 May 2012 12:37:47
As much as I like Wenger and respect him for what he has done with the club. If we could get a better manager/ambituous it would be better.
I know I will get slammed for this and Arsene has done so much. But the game has changed! We can no longer spend piddly amounts and buy Average players, we need to buy big names.
And for the people out there who will say 'Your just a fickle fan' answer me this. What is the point of football?
To entertain. Watching your team have a dissapointing summer transfer is depressing. You see the likes of Man U and Chelsea (not counting City) splashing out on players. And before you say they are rich, Man U are in huge debt but they still spend big. Because titles and entertaining your fans is important.
The scenario with Mata last year is an example. We wouldnt pay, what an extra 2million for him to come. He has been one of chelseas best players this season. 2 seasons ago we had the chance to buy Benzema, before he was a Madrid starter, that failed. Same with Gotze and Hazard.
Wenger needs to realise its not just about 'A historic club like Arsenal' its about the money and winning trophies.
End of Rant.
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Come on get real. Do you really think a more ambitious manager will change the ways of the dinosaurs sitting round the board room table??
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Erm so podolski isn't a big name signing then ! wenger isn't the problem , gazidis the profit hungry little money vampire is the problem
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To the guy above
Gazidis is part of the problem¦..not THE problem. He can™t secure deals whether it be internal or external, but at the end of the day there is still only a limited budget he can play with. That budget is set by the board, not Gazidis.
I do wonder though why he is so ineffective when it comes to tying down deals. Had David Dein been in charge I seriously believe we still would have had Fabregas and Nasri at the club, and we wouldn™t be in this current mess we r in with Van Persie. We no doubt would have had Mata signed last season as well.
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Fair point, but I mean that because he has been with the tight board so long, he doesnt even seem to push for more money.
And Podolski is a great player, but hes not a name we would have said we wanted last year.
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Between summer 08 and summer 11, the debt fell from £318.1m to £98m... meaning we used £210m of profit over three years to clear a large portion of debt.
Do you really want to be another club riddled with debt? You brought Man Utd up as an example of a debt riddled team that still finds funds to spend big. Well, what did they win this year?
In all likelihood the debt is now probably below £50m, or there abouts. It won't be loing before the shackles are off and you'll have your wish of war chests available every summer. Still, I wouldn't expect Wenger to spend over the top on players, he's made his stance on polarising football through over spending clear.
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I think MR Wenger already knows this, but Ithink that it is someone in the board that is the problem, and remember Arteta, Mertesacker etc were emergency signings. If we sell Van Persie, then it better be early, or else we risk panic buys
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Unless we go down the route of spending Zillions, Wenger is as good as it gets. I cannot think of another manager who could compete against the likes of Man C, Man U & Chelsea without spending heavily.
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It's not Wenger, it's the board. If they tell him to he'll spend, if they don't he won't. All Wenger needs is the option to spend and he'll thrive. Even if it's only 3 or so big transfers they can make an average team look amazing. That's all Barcalona have done. Messi + Iniesta + Xavi + PiquƩ = amazing.
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Northern Gooner, I fully agree with your sentiment, and statement. We don™t seem to compete with other clubs with regards to big name signings or even trophies anymore. In truth, we are only three/four players away from being great again. However, it™s great to know the team is being run well financially, but who dares wins, yet we haven™t won a thing of late. Moreover, I felt an air of jealousy surrounding me when I watched Chelski celebrate. Can we continue singing Money can™t buy you history¯, at Chelski, and Man City. Arsenal really, really needs to get its house in order and purchase quality on the bench as well as on the pitch. Like you said, what™s the point¯? I question whether any other top manager at a top flight club could sustain their job for so long without a major honour, therefore this unchecked lack of ambition can only come from the board. I wonder what the reaction would be if Podolski was the only signing this season?
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Has anyone thought about where these big names come from?they dont just appear out of thin air,they are built and moulded by clubs and managers. im going to use kagawa as an example dortmund bought him in for 350k as an unknown prospect,now three years down the line he has had his fair share of injuries and then a couple of great seasons for dortmund,now he is a big name player that evryone wants us to sign,and man u and a host of other clubs. ill also use rvp as an example 2.75 million all those years ago and look at him now best striker on the planet? i will quote wenger in saing a players price dosent always reflect their quality. stop bitching Arsenal will survive and challenge for trophies again with or without rvp and these so called big name signings
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Wenger is the only man for the job. Can't wait to see Wilshire back next season and would like to see the ox get a good run of games.
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WENGER OUT! simples
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21 May 2012 11:55:11
Looks like good news for us (in parts)
M'Vila has told French news that his mind is not made up yet, as it would be disrespectful to his current club to make a final decision before talking to Rennes...... Looks like we've got him in the bag then.
In other recent news apparently Juventus have ended their pursuit of RVP - i suppose in a sense its good but that means its now a two Horse Race between $hitty and An$i.
And to be honest i think van Persie has a little more respect for Arsenal and the fans to move to another English club.
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He already had talks with City and did not go well. Wouldn't rule out Spanish clubs or Utd just yet.
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Jersey gunner as we have said over here before
1 good season and he is good
if he signs might get two more good years out of him
if he goes he will break down and the club that buys him will have spent a lot of money for someone to be on the crock bench
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Your hillarious. A player that says he isnt decided on his future, is 'in the bag'. Your logic is flawless *facepalm*
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Well really, van Persie has always been world class in the last few years. I don't remember him ever having a 'bad' season........he was just so injury prone up until midway through last January. And from that point he was just ridiculous, but he's always had that class. If he'd not have gotten injured at the start of last season, i think the outcome of that season would have been quite different.
People are only saying he's had "one good season" because it would make them feel better thinking that if it does leave. But the fact of the matter is that he has always had the class and the skill and we ALL know that, and as much as half of you lot want to be whining little s**ts about it, saying "let him go, f*** him blah blah blah" it's 100% clear that NO arsenal fan on the planet wants to see him go so we should all stop making up excuses for why it wouldnt be so bad if he does leave!
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21 May 2012 11:38:57
Where are these Skrtel to Arsenal rumours coming from?
North Carolina Gooner.
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Skrtel himself because he wants out ASAP.
Stefan
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There not rumours Skrtel wants out so his associated to different clubs with us being one.
Wouldn't expect much Liverpool movement until a new manager arrives
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I have no idea but they make no sense whatsoever. We have two of the best centre backs in the world right now already, with good 3rd and 4th choice cb's to back them up.
-Catscangrowbeardsallover
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"We have two of the best centre backs in the world right now already, with good 3rd and 4th choice cb's to back them up".
This made me laugh!! What is our backup? Djoupoo and Stilcrappi.
By the way, we conceded 49 goals in 38 games in the league. Pretty leaky to be honest.
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As fast as koscielny is, he still makes huge positional errors. Same for vermaelen. Mertesacker does the opposite, and has great positional play, but doesnt have the pace in 1v1 scenarios. Djourou is a mistake waiting to happen, offload him and bring in someone new.
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21 May 2012 10:57:20
arsenal ins:
back up keeper - gordon
cb - vetronghen/sakho
cdm - m'vila
cam - martin
cf - depends on if rvp leaves to how much he will spend on strikers
outs:
denilson
chamakh
vela
ramsey (loan)
miyachi (loan)
fabianski
almunia
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Also if united get hazard then we will probably get kagawa instead for cam
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Have u forgot about s**ty squllici, arshavin,park
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Also forgetting the best player in the world... Bendtner
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Believable, would luv to see it, m'vila and martin would restore our midfield to a higher technical level, cant see sakho leaving PSG tho, their loaded, dnt need to sell an can pay him more than us, but yeah i would be more than happy with that shoppin list
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My bad i forgot about those players, yeah those players will be offloaded apart from park who i don't see wenger selling after just one year, he never does that
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21 May 2012 10:46:33
danny sturridge for theo walcott true fact
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Glad it's a true fact because an untrue fact would have been difficult for me to get my head round!
Raz
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Are they in love? or is this a swap? not sure what to make of this!
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Time for your medication mate. No way would any club with ambition take Theo off our hands. Anyway, even if they did, what would be the point of us swapping a player who is incapable of crossing a ball to his team mates for one who is unwilling to?
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21 May 2012 01:34:45
moussa dembele has apparently snubbed contract offer from fulham - has one year left on his current deal... if we sold song and bought him and mvila i wouldnt be dissapointed.
AG
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Crap song to stay with the team a brilliant cmd
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Song AND M'Vila every time..
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21 May 2012 01:15:50
This is a rumour merely a thought.. Gregory Van Der Weils contract is up at the end of next season. Reports claim that Ajax were willing to sell to Valencia in January for 12 million euros but Valencia would go above 10 million euros. Now with his contract 6 months further down the line I'm sure they will still accept 12 million euros. Whats that in today's climate? Surely that would be under 10 million pounds? With Sagna going to miss pre season and then who knows how much of the start of the season we need another RB. I doubt his wage demands would be too high either. Then in January I would send Jenko out on loan to another PL club. Maybe west ham. There from London and maybe big Sam could teach him how to defend. I really think VDW will leave Ajax this summer so why can't we snap him up?
RD
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I agree. he's in perfect age - jenko won't be a starter for ages if ever. van der wiel is netherlands' first choice, likes attacking play... i could go on and on, he's just perfect!
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I Doubt You've Ever Watched Him Play He's Not A Great Defender Is A Great Attacker Though.
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Cant see the dutch international wanting to be back up to sagna for most of the season. He is a starter
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I would prefer the Montpellier captain, he can play comfortably across the back.
VDW was a lot of hype.
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