Arsenal Rumours Archive April 22 2014

 

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22 Apr 2014 21:05:59
Great post on 'other page' from Blackpool Gooner.

He said " we are out of the running for Jürgen Klopp but are interested in his brother Klipity".

Cracked me up.

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22 Apr 2014 09:25:16
Ed002, is there any chance of Cesc moving on in th summer after being booed by Barcelona fans against Bilbao. If yes do you see Arsenal going in for him?
Thanxxxx

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions with the words "any chance" in. Unless Barcelona can overturn the ban then they have said they will not be selling.}

22 Apr 2014 08:11:50
Sorry this should have read. Hey! Being human. I'm going to have to pull rank here sorry. Sanogo is my man united should know that. But I will let you get away with this one. YES! anyone will do for me. LOL. I bet this gave Dags a laugh didn't it mate? . Smiles.
GOLDBOY

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Golds, are you saying you like Sanogo now? lol

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Dags. Naaa not really. LOL

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22 Apr 2014 07:59:51
Hi all,

Can anyone please tell me what Cesc Fabregas has done to upset the Barca fans. I am away atm visiting family in France and can't seem to find the full story unless I subscribe to a certain newspaper. (not going to happen).

Any help would be much obliged as allways.

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I always felt Fabregas was overrated and slow. I cannot understand fellow Arsenal fans love in for him, as he engineered a transfer whilst captain and with 3 years left on his contract. I hope we don't sign him.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree the way he left was not ideal robbie, but come on mate, he is a fantastic player mate..

Yeah Robbie same with xavi pirlo iniesta xabi alonso as well eh slow anf overrated imagine if we had to suffer having players like these in are team haha

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The way he left wasn't nice, like everyone that leaves in recent years, but Fabregas is an unbelievable player mate. One of the best to play for us, if we are to get the best out of Ramsey (hopefully there's more to come) I think Fabby could be a top tutor for him, zelalem and eisfeld.

(I'll leave Crowley out the list because wilshere will be his mentor ;) )

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Cesc has played left wing 8 times, midfield 24 times and as a CF 14 times, he has played wherever he has been needed, bis best position has and will always be behind the CF.

they can't play him there because of the system they currently play, which means messi drops deep and he becomes the no10, no doubt he is brilliant but its like rooney doing that and making mata serve no purpose.

he can be the next xavi, although not exactly at his level. Cesc needs runners, he needs the wingers to give him that option, but with the fullbacks also lining up the corners, just means that the defense sits back and then it turns into one long passing game.

The fans are clearly just spoilt. they cheer for pedro and sanchez, but boo cesc, the same player whose all around game is the best from the midfield point.

For me the biggest mistake barcelona have made this season sums it up in 3 points.

1) not selling Dani Alves
2) not buying a CB
3) buying neymar

that kid is not going to be a world beater in that system where everything flows or goes thru messi.

he would do well to get smart and ask for a transfer, but knowning barca to save face they will sack the next 10 managers and blame them for the team being so bad.

more than a club afterall

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I think Fabregas is technically good, but he lacks the pace necessary to become a great player and he hasn't improved at Barca and the fans clearly agree with my sentiments.

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22 Apr 2014 19:11:08
So Bergkamp wasn't a great player then because he didn't have pace. You haven't got a clue Robbie. Fabregas' game has absolutely nothing to do with pace. He isn't technically good, he is technically brilliant and would walk into any club side in the world. Talking about his pace is like talking about Lionel Messi's ability to play at right back. Completely irrelevant. He is one of the best midfield players of recent history and anybody can see it.

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According to the DM online, they blame him for the champions league exit

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23 Apr 2014 02:48:26
Yeah but according to Robbie, they blame him for a lack of pace. Out of interest Robbie, which of the best out and out central midfielders in Europe do you believe are blessed with pace? Although according to Robbie we will be managed by Uwe Rosler and Dennis Bergkamp next season. Fantastic.

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Ubistonk. I reiterate, that Fabregas lacks the pace to make him a great player. Bergkamp is a different player, who played in a different style. It could be argued that even Bergkamp failed to hit the very top, with the likes of Maradonna, Pele, etc, due to his lack of pace. Remember he failed miserably at Inter and didn't win the Champions League nor the World Cup. Fabregas left Barca as a 15 year old, he left. Arsenal despite being captain & with 3 years on his contract & now the Barca fans want him gone. I can't recall us ever wanting Bergkamp to leave. Would I want Fabregas back? No thanks, he ranks alongside Cole, RVP & Nasri, as players who engineered moves. I would far rather we rely on players such as Ox, Gnabry & Walcott to provide technique, power and pace.

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23 Apr 2014 11:59:04
You used the term 'great player', so I gave Bergkamp as an example. If you are now saying that he wasn't a great player then you really are making yourself look silly. Why are you talking about Theo and Gnabry? They are wingers, of course they are going to have pace. Pele and Maradona were not central midfielders either. I ask you once again to name me a top quality centre mid who is blessed with pace. Xavi has been the best over the last 10 years and he has no pace. Zidane was the best before that and he wasn't quick.

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Ubistonk - I adore comments such as yours. These are rumours, not facts, hence they change. Instinctively, I believe Wenger will leave this season, I may of course be wrong. If he does leave, the replacement is subject to rumour & the strongest one I have from a quality source, who told me of the impending signing of Sol Campbell and also Arsene Wenger, before any of us had even heard of him, is currently Uwe Rosler.
As for the pace comment regarding Fabregas, there are of course numerous rapid central midfield players. Fabregas is particularly slow and disloyal, both to Barca & Arsenal. I could give you a list of players I would prefer in a central midfield position, which include our own Oxlade-Chamberlain. Would I want Fabregas back, no thanks. Personally, I would like to see us sign a couple of tall, athletic midfield players, such as Pogba. Oddly, possibly, I would like to see Pogba & Sandro in front of our back four, to give protection both for the defence & to allow our technical midfield players more freedom to attack. Incidentally, Arteta & Flamini are two players who also lack pace and boy does it show when we play the top teams. Pace is almost an essential in the modern game. There is of course the odd exception.

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{Ed025's Note - no thanks to fabregas robbie?...thats called cutting your nose off, to spite your face mate..

23 Apr 2014 13:22:30
Haha, so just to confirm, you would rather have Ox in the middle of the park instead of Fabregas. Ok, I don't need to add anything else to that. Thankyou for all of the hilarious words.

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Ubistonk - Yes I would rather have Ox in central midfield over Fabregas. I fail to understand fellow Arsenal fans love in for Fabregas. Ask Barca fans who they would prefer in central midfield Ox or Fab? There is a reason he is being boo'd by Barca fans. Think about it.

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Ed025 - Its not cutting off my nose to spite my face, I simply don't rate him as highly as others. 50 per cent of Barca fans want him to be sold. He is Barca to the core, so its simply that they don't rate him. I believe we have lots of options in his position, we need better defensive midfield players to replace Arteta & Flamini. Attacking-wise we have many options. We have Wilshere, Ox, Ramsey, Ozil, Rosicky, Cazorla, Abu Diaby (if he stays fit!). We have Walcott & Gnabry wide right. We have Podolski wide left. We need a further wide left option, obviously Fab isn't a wide left player. So to reiterate I would not want us to sign Fabregas.

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Ubistonk - We can continue to discuss players other than Fabregas and I will back any statement that I make. I do wish you were able to read & understand my comments without making irrelevant, rude, inane comments. If Fabregas is so good, then why do 50% of Barca fans polled want him to be sold? Why are Barca fans booing him? To compare him to Iniesta, Xavi & Zidane is absurd in the extreme.

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You see what you want to see Robbie. Read my post, I said that Zidane and Xavi are the best centre mids in recent history and they don't have pace. Where did I say that Cesc is as good as them? I didn't because he isn't, so it is your response that is absurd. If I was to name some of the best centre mids of recent times, I would be thinking Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Xabi Alonso, Pirlo, Vierra, Gerrard, Keane, Schweinsteiger. How many of those guys are blessed with pace? None. Centre mids don't need to be quick because their role in a game of football does not require it.

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Ubistonk. I believe you underestimate the pace of certain midfield players. The ones you mention are all considerably quicker than Fabregas. Do you seriously consider that Vieira & Keane lacked pace! In the modern game pace is vital. Of course certain of the players you mention could make space with the quality of their play, but were certainly not lacking pace. Ignoring the pace argument, why do you think 50% of Barca fans want Fabregas to leave? I reiterate that I would not want him to rejoin Arsenal, we have plenty of capable players who play in his position & he walked out on us.

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22 Apr 2014 07:40:29
News outside Carrington road just now hot from the press. Moyes on his way out Manchester United speaking to Louis Van Gaal as I post this. There goes one of our targets. AGAIN! I know the board are not going to upset proceedings at this point but we now! need to start getting our finger out of our backsides and decide what we are doing as regards to a manager.

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{Ed025's Note - can you really see arsene going any time soon goldie? because i cant mate..

Unfortunately maybe no. But on the other hand I wouldn't expect them making any announcements before the end of the season. I think we will win the FA Cup, but then again why wouldn't we. I think that this will be the time he will announce what he is doing. Probably not the highest point of his career to step down but probably the most appropriate point of it if he was going to do it. Ed025 my worry is, and we have seen it time and time again, new managers sometimes take at a season to settle in. Especially if this is there first time in the Premier League. It doesn't always stand to reason that the most successful manager is going to walk into a new team and work miracles over night. But I do have a niggling feeling that the reason Arsenal haven't spent where they should of in the last two windows is maybe because behind closed doors they knew Arsene was handing over the reins and they want the new manager to come in and pick his own set up rather than unpicking someone else's handy work. Just my opinion mind you. What do you reckon.

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{Ed025's Note - i reckon he will move upstairs as a director of football goldie, but not anytime soon mate, be careful what you wish for fella, i think you have one of the best around in arsene, you dont have to look far to see how changing the manager can be catastrophic..

I agree with that reply too. And that's what bothers me.

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If he can actually buy a striker worth utilizing our midifeld for, I think we are going to do much better than we did last season.

Wenger should be on the phone trying to get Benzema, di maria, cesc, bender, draxler.

benzema is french so clearly that should be his no1 target, such as all things french.

and bender/cesc depends who is available, cesc 1st choice, and regroup and go at it again.

What benzema will give us is pace and with walcott, ox, ramsey, ozil, wilshere, flamini, gnabry, giroud as back up, we should be more than ok to compete on atleast two fronts if not 4.

But if wenger dithers, and Benzema ends up at PSG and we end up getting some unproven gem its time he goes, I want him to stay but he has to spend. a striker is what we have been crying out for 2 years now.

we had van persie but no midfield, now we have a midfield but no striker. bloody hell

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Spot on 100% lakerville. Act quick get your targets signed up before a ball is kicked in the World Cup. Di Maria not for me as I want a striker who will be strong not frail and gets under the skin of defenders like TH14 did. Benzema is that player. If Arsene gets Benzema I say top 2 finish next year and a decent CL run. COYG

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