Arsenal Rumours Archive July 22 2011

22 Jul 2011 20:28:37
In reply to the person who posted this

"Nasri has gone, and cesc.confirmed next wk. massive rumour, van persie wants out
Wenger out. hes mental"

As a reply to another post... What are you smoking you WUM?

Nasri has gone? Stop talking sht. Cesc may POSSIBLY go by next week but still absolutely NOTHING Confirmed. - RvP is contracted til 2013 and is actually looking to renew already.

Well said mate you do get some arses on here

Keep dreaming, RVP is not happy. Wait for it...

What next swapping cesc for messi?

22 Jul 2011 17:00:33
Ivan Gazidis has said Arsenals spending is far from over, I think Cesc will go, his heart is not in Arsenal which showed last season, Nasri is holding out on a new deal, he wants to be the star CM at Arsenal, he is waiting for Cesc to go, Arsenal Should give Nasri Cesc's wage and sign a winger (Mata) to replace Nasri.

A lot of fans are questioning Arsenals star players I think we will get another BIG Signing to partner Van Persie up front.

Denilson, Diaby, Rosicky, Vela, Eboue, Bendtner, Aluminia and Squilliaci should be sold, not arsenal quality, replace them well and we will win the league

I disagree with you on Vela, I definitely think he is going to be a big player, eventually.. he just needs the playing time and the confidence for us.

Rosicky said wenger has assured him his future remains with arsenal. so u should take him of the list

Diaby, Rosicky, Vela, and Eboue wont be sold.

I cant see Ebou leaving there is no reason for him to go, he is useful in providing versatile backup, he is friends with gervinho and relatively low wages

Nasri has gone, and cesc.confirmed next wk.
massive rumour, van persie wants out
Wenger out. hes mental

Vela was looking very good at one point, then just stopped scoring and but he went to West Brom and didnt do well there, maybe he could be in the carling cup team sort of like micheal owen for united? and I personally dont think rosicky is good enough

Vela, rosicky, arshaavin, walcott, song, etc etc.
CRAP CRAP

Vela and rosicky are quality, vela has just never had a proper pre season at arsenal and is usually thrown in in the middle of the season, need i say he is a starter in the Mexican first team. Rosicky was injured for ages and is still good back up so i dont think you can pass judgement on him really

Nasri has gone, and cesc.confirmed next wk.
massive rumour, van persie wants out
Wenger out. hes mental

Why Lie?

Did gazidis say the spending was far from over? I thought he said that money was available if the right player came along to improve the squad. I could be wrong, but to be accurate, I will say that you are wrong - and your sensationalism really pisses me off. How about you take whats said, and re-iterate it (if you must) without looking a complete tool.

Daniel

Vela, rosicky, arshaavin, walcott, song, etc etc.
CRAP CRAP


What?? played in the right positions in the right formation and all of them have the potential to be awesome. this is especially correct with walcott. played up front with vp just behind him and his speed alone would cause so many problems for defences. vela has so much potential he just needs confidence. song is strong physically and mentally and played in correct position is amazing IMO and arshavin and rosicky just need to find their form again.

Eboue is too good and useful to be sold, yet strangely not valuable to put on the market. He's committed to Arsenal and fans love him.

I think you're wrong about Vela, he is pure quality but a certain Danish guy managed to elbow him out of the squad. His loan spell last season was a waste of time and all I can say is thank god pre-season has got him back in the spotlight - he is brilliant, maybe not powerful but he really DOES play the Arsenal way.

AW won't sell Diaby unless he put sin a request, he is 'very fond of him'.

I agree about Rosicky, Bendtner, Denilson, Diaby, Almunia and Squillaci not being Arsenal quality though, but in honesty I'd put Chamakh there too.

To the guy above me. chamakh i have to disagree with. when he was bought it was on the facts that he wasnt a high scoring striker but more of a nuisence player who could cause trouble in the air etc which i think he does. i think have him on the bench and bring him on when its dead locked or trailing by a goal and his threat could help. he isnt starting 11 quality and IMO never will but still worth keeping on as a useful sub.

I Agree with you mate - I am the guy above haha, I have often thought that he is good to bring on. Teams like SToke have a solid defence and we just can't seem to play through them - that's when we need to spread it out wide and cross in to Chamakh, I agree with you there he is sick in the air and he holds it up well... but for me he is not starting line-up material, and his game in pre-season against Malaysia was shocking SO he is bottom of the pile for me at least.
Raz

Raz,
totally. like you and i have both said not starting material but certainly class act worthy of bench with the view of last 30 mins to mix it up against the stokes and blackburns etc. i know i'll probs get slated for this but i dont think we need to bring too many players in, and if we do not players that will 'be good in 20 years'. if wenger does dip into transfer market he must decide if hes going to challenge the big boys or not. if he doesnt want to show that hes serious about challenging for title then buy unknown talents but if he wants people to sit up and take notice then he shouldnt be scared of blowing millions into one player (benzema comes to mind) but also pick the player well. buying another striker makes no sense if we have 4/5 strikers already.

I agree with the strength in depth thing but the fact is the carling cup final could of happened to any team in the world.

22 Jul 2011 16:33:14
very intresting news arsenal will bid for alex from chelsea when they come bk from germany. watch this space

I would love for him to come to Arsenal. I read a rumour that Chelsea were going to get rid of him sometime ago now. But really are they going to Id doubt it very much

Alex is what Arsenal need

I think u are right .this is a man not a kid....

22 Jul 2011 14:31:53
Hi Ed,
Any chance at all that Arsenal will change their formation this season to allow RVP to play in more free space? He is a finesse player and that's why he gets hurt so much because we play him in a position where you need a Zlatan Ibrahimovich or someone physical to get in the box and win headers for you. I think if Arsenal switch to a variation of 4-4-2 and allow RVP to play how Rooney played for Man U this past season he could be fit for the whole season instead of only 18 games.. Would love to hear your opinion Ed.
Respect Man,
Trinidad Gooner {Ed002's Note - You need the other posters to give you their opinions on this.}

Plenty of teams seem to manage to keep their forwards fit who aren't built like Ibrahimovic. RVP's injuries are down to our poor medical staff as well as some bad luck. However, I can't disagree that I'd like to see him playing in the hole behind another striker or in a 442 alongside one. Problem is I don't think we should revert to that formation with the current forward options we have at the club unless Theo proves he can remain fit/consistent over a season.

I believe we should revert to Wenger's hugely successful fluid 4-4-2 formation. We can then use various combinations of Van Persie, Chamakh, Arshavin, Bendtner & Walcott. If we kept Bendtner, both he & Chamakh could play as targetmen, with say Van Persie or Arshavin or Walcott playing off them. It would give us so many options... My team would then be:
Szczesny
Sagna Cahill Samba Vermaelen
Wilshere Song Melo Nasri
Van Persie Chamakh
&
Fabianski
Jenkinson Djourou Koscielny Gibbs
Walcott Ramsey Frimong Gervinho
Bendtner Arshavin

Loads of options...

Totally agree and its his best position also, who would we play as the target me doh, no1 at the club is good enough at present imo

I agree with you he should play more of bergkamp role , with benzema would be ideal

I agree with the first post in response to this, we don't need someone physical to stay fit, but i would love to see VP with more freedom behind a striker. And would love to see Walcott pushed up there, he tore the championship apart when he played there for Southampton, he's become an even better player now and is used to the premier league, this is the perfect time to push him up there, his pace will be such a threat.
With VP playing the more free play role like Rooney, and Walcott as our very own Hernandez, but quicker and i believe better. before anyone claims i want us to copy united, no, i don't at all, just these two strikers proved for united the front man doesn't need to be physical, Hernandez's pace was devastating to many teams in that position. and Walcott is even faster, and i think even better timing too. And VP is just as good as Rooney if not better, he's much more prolific in front of goal, just Rooney is English and therefore rated 5x as much as he really is. changing to this style i think could be the difference between title challengers & Europa league spot.

Elliot.

We aren't getting Melo, dunno where you got that from

I wouldnt be surprised if wenger makes an offer for melo. Like vieria has said we lack a balance between skill and physical strength. melo may be signed to literally sit infront of a back 4 to make tackles and let nasri/wilshere/ramsey and co play..

a cb is a must though. samba is the only option for me. {Ed007's Note - Felipe Melo has joined Galatasaray on loan, with a view to a permanent 13 million Euros deal}

Quite hard to get Melo when he has just signed for Galatasaray.

Great point man, I have been thinking about this all summer, if cesc leaves van persie is the perfect person to replace him like cesc he has the creativity to open defence but he has more of a goal threat has he is a great striker. if it was up to me i would sell both cesc and nasri as i dont think they want to be there any more, cesc 40 million, nasri 25 million that's 65 million, buy benzema 27- 30 million, phil jagielka 17 million and i think arsenal would once again have the team to rule the prem. my team.
Szczesny
Sagna jagielka Vermaelen Gibbs

Song Wilshire

Walcott Van Persie Arshavin

Benzema

This team has every thing to win the prem
with van persie and benzema wewould have the best attack in the prem and all it would need is nasri and cesc being sold which is likely anyways, so there is live after cesc my fellow gunners. Ed what do you think, any opinion welcome.

22 Jul 2011 10:24:09
Hey Ed, I wouldnt be surprised if you didnt know about everyone, but i was wondering if you could give me some basic info (age, height, position etc) on the following players: JET, Miyaichi, Miquel, Traore, Botelho, Bartley and Aneke.

PS you do a great job on this website, cheers

Colney bandit {Ed002's Note - You are kidding, right?}

There is this place called Arsenal.com apparently it has a list of every person associated with the club, squad or something.

{Ed022's Note - (Original poster) How lazy you?! Seriously, if you want to know then find out! Google each individual player one at a time and that should occupy you for a few hours...}

There about so high and in various positions.....you tube

Go on the arsenal website and look at there factfile thing about each player that might help

FIFA 11 also has all this info.

Cant believe someone wud actually ask that... =S

Are you Harry Redknapp by any chance??

Welsh Gooner

Hahaha best thread I have seen in my week-long arsenal rumours career {Ed007's Note - I just read that, he should be grateful he didn't get me answering that or he would have felt the sharp end of my tongue!!!!!}

Ed - could you find my car keys please. And if its not too much trouble I need milk and bread from Tescos. - cheers.

A foot rub wouldn't go amiss either, Ed.

22 Jul 2011 12:34:47
Wenger has offered less money for Jagielka than he did this time last year. Hes a player we really need and we need to spend money to get quality players. Its no good moaning about Barcelona and Man City making disrespectful offers when we are doing the same.

Wear and tear mate, wear and tear.

lol.

It has never been the amount Wenger has been complaining about , it is the tapping up in public, so at least get your facts right.

Reports suggest we are going to up this bid, maybe around 16 mil

Exactly, it's perfectly normal procedure to go in with a low, even a derisory offer. The difference is AW goes to the club, and asks the right person if he can make a bid, or he offers a bid and says 'would you be interested in selling?' He doesn't go to the player like a paedo to a school kid and try and lure them away from the club by promising them better this and that, turning the player's head, getting the agent to start the process (ahem, Nasri/ Modric / Torres). Like someone said, a difference between standard procedure which we may not like, and tapping up.

22 Jul 2011 11:45:49
just heard a whisper that Wenger has accepted a bid 1mill for JET from Ipswich Town

A whisper so quiet that it was in the daily mirror today

Not a chance AW will cast his preseason rule over him first

IDIOT

I can't see JET being sold. A loan would be much more likely I think.

IDIOT was a bit harsh.

22 Jul 2011 09:43:42
ARSENAL ARE PREPARING A 12 MILLION BID FOR SAMBA WHICH WILL BE AGREED DUE TO BLACKBURN NEED TO SELL IF THEY WANT TO BUY. BY NEXT WEEK HE WILL BE ANNOUNCED AS AN ARSENAL PAYER. AS FOR FABREGAS I HAVE HEARD THAT ARSENAL ARE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING AND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAY THEY WILL BE AN AGREED FEE. A FEE AROUND 40MILLION. AS WENGER WILL THEN TURN HIS ATTENTION TO JUAN MATA. BUT AGAIN VALENCIA WANTS MORE THAN 20MILLION FOR THE PLAYMAKER. BENZEMA IS NOT COMING AS WENGER DOES NOT WANT TO SPEND A HUGE AMOUNT ON HIM AS THEY HAVE CHAMAKH, VELA AND THEO WALCOTT WILL MORE ATTACKING THAN LAST YEAR.
IN ARSENE WE TRUST

Enough with the CAPS

Why shout we can all hear all lol

Why Do People Make Up Their Own Rumours?

Yeah - Wenger doesnt want Benzema as we have Vela. Dont think so matey.

Really sick of the capslock to be honest

The three forwards you name are not good enough for afc, do they compare with Henry, Wright or Bergkamp - no Trust me if we keep them and play them, they will be lucky to get 25 goal;s between the three of them - going further backwards under Wenger. Judge me in Mae

And Samba will be the new Pascal Cygan - god help us

Samba the new cygan?? thats harsh imo. He has been colossal for blackburn for years now, his height and physical presence is something we desperately need.

I think you are telling the truth cause its in capslocks

F*** OFF WITH THE CAPS LOCK WE ARE ALL SICK OF IT.

Samba the new Cygan? Get real.. fair enough if that's what you think but I can remember Cygan looking clueless from day one, and not that big if my memory serves me correctly, and the only thing I think of with Samba is a massive guy owning his defence, bossing the midfield and scoring the odd goal when he comes forward for corners. Like the Verminator on crack

22 Jul 2011 04:08:42
Arsenal will sign two new defenders this transfer window, neither of which will be a left back. The hope is that Gibbs plays that posiiton (while remaining uninjured). If need be, his spot can be filled by TV5 or Kos, as both have played the position in the past.
The two defenders will obviously be centrebacks. The names jagielka and Cahill should be known by all, though it is equally possible that Wenger move for Mathis Jorgenson from Copenhagen, who availed himself well in the CL last season. Vertonghen is also an option.
Finally, the policy of flexibility will also hold true from CDM. Djourou, and once more TV5 have played the position, so if Song goes, and Diaby proves to be Diaby, Arsene will fall back on those two. TV5 winds up becoming the most important player for Arsenal's season.
Keep the faith gooners.

Arsenalex

So you think he will mess around our best CD by playing him as a left back and a defensive midfielder Ye good one I do wonder sometimes

If Song goes?? goes where? he aint gonna be sold if thats what ur talking about

Frimpong and Eastmond? Bartley and Miquel? also Ozy from the reserves are going to be pushed or offloaded within this season dont talk rubbish we know all this mate not even a rumour.

Do the big clubs intend to play their best centre backs at left back to cover for their not good enough and sick note players, or do they play their best centre back in midfield to cover their overr hyped constantly fouling players when they go to the Africa cup of nations - NO, only suggested at Arsenal. Buy the quality players we need NOW

22 Jul 2011 00:01:47
£10m is a silly price to offer for Jagielka, Everton need the money, but not at the expense of one of their best players. You offer good money they will have to sell, but they can afford to turn down £10m. I think you would get him for £15m, but then I don't think you need a £15m defender, I don't even think you need a defender.

Arsenal will be fine next season with Verm/Kos, good complimenting partnership, in the centre, as for Djourou and Squid, they maybe aren't good enough as back ups, but you shouldn't be spending £10-15m on a player you hope will hardly play. I think you should get rid of Squid and find a youngster, to challenge for a starting spot later on.

Samba, Cahill, and Jagielka are good players, but they aren't backups and your first pairing is good enough.

Serously mate go back to sleep, dont think we need a defender

Do 1 mate, we wouldn't have kos as a 1st choice it would be TV5 and the new boy, TV5 would also cover LB leaving an opening for a 2 covers i.e. Djourou and poss Bartley &/or Miquel. Jags will arrive end of he is established and can justify his price tag Cahill cant Bolton are being unreasonable, we will remember that when we have amazing players who need 6 months EPL experience and need a loan

Finally, someone talking calm sense.

I absolutely agree with you. Arsenal have strength in depth in all areas of the field.

Paranoia, defeatism, hysteria and the fixation that spending more money gets you a player that will miraculously change everything.

It's a team game folks. Look at how many of the youngsters that Wenger has overseen are now regular and thought of as world class (they all play for their national teams): Wiltshire, Fab, Walcott, Song, Van Persie etc etc

Barcelona were not the best team in Europe because of money, nor was it because they are inveterate whiners and upstarts. No, it was they played excellently as a team.

I think 1 more defender WILL come in, but unlikely to be the marquee signing that will satisfy this craving for 'transfer' that has gripped the news medja and thereby infected all our tiny little football obsessed minds.

To the third response, how much did barcelona spend on ibrahimovic? or villa? or sanchez? they know you need to spend money.
If all arsenal fans went by this attitude, we would inevitably slip to being the 5th best team in england, as spending money is clearly working for liverpool and man city.