Arsenal Rumours Archive July 23 2011

23 Jul 2011 18:58:31
arsenal opened talks with colonge after the match about a deal for geromel

Why Lie?

Haha this is obviously a joke after stewart houston's commentary during the game

23 Jul 2011 18:45:02
we're selling JET? I think the guy has talent can't we do like Barca sell him but have the possibility of buying him in a few years

23 Jul 2011 16:31:58
edd any movement on jan vertongen, any other clubs intrested in him? {Ed002's Note - Vertonghen has attracted the interest of Manchester City and Inter. But seemingly quiet right now.}

He has a 20m+ euro clause according to Danny blind..

23 Jul 2011 11:58:49
Hey Gooners,

Due to Nasri's "supposed" rejection of the contract offer for £115,000-a-week.
I feel if he does not sign we should sell him THIS summer for a fee around £20 million. Plus Cesc Fabregas is surely leaving to BARCA for around £35-40 million. With this money (IF WENGER IS NOT INSANE) buy a WORLD CLASS attacking midfielder (eg. Sneijder or Hamsik) for around 35 million and a world class defensive midfielder (eg. Schwinstiger or Melo) for around 15 million

With the rest of the budget - ( 40 million I think? )

Jagielka OR Cahill
Benzema

W

I couldn't complete it ......

Play 4-3-3

With Wilshere or Ramsey to play alongside an experienced Midfield to gain experience.... Walcott and Van Persie to play just behind the main striker acting as a left and right striker AND wingers..... Benzema to play as striker...


Team:

Szezcney
Sagna-Cahill/Jagielka-Vermaelen-Gibbs
------------Defensive Mid (Melo)-------------
--AM (Sneijder Hopefully ;) )-Wilshere------
---------Walcott----------Van Persie---------
------------------Benzema------------------

Signed,
TheArsenalKid10

Maybe if Nasri does reject it. It's not even been offered, yet.

We would never, ever get Sneijder, or Schweinsteiger. And Melo is just poor. Sorry.

Melo has already moved to Turkey on loan I'm almost sure, and I agree with the previous poster that he is trash. Loses his head easily which is a horrible trait for a DM. Schweinstiger would cost at least 25-30m and doubt he want to leave Munich. We would never meet Sneijder's wage demands. There are very few attacking/creative mids available in the market at any kind of reasonable price which is why Arsene is so reluctant to let Cesc and Nasri leave. Palermo demanding 40m+ euros for Pastore is a good example of this. Napoli has made similarly ridiculous demands for Hamsik.

Melo signed for Galatasaray on loan, didn't he?

Plus there is no information to suggest Nasri has even rejected a contract offer, don't be so dramatic.

I was giving examples of players..

Why not give examples of possible options?

I'd love if we got Sneijder but there's no way he's come to us and no way we could afford his wages.

23 Jul 2011 10:14:08
jay emmannuel thomas on his way to forest - is he any good?

Fantastic player when he tries but very lazy. hope your manager changes his attitude if he can then he would be class

Yeah agree exciting young player.

Watched him play against Man U reserves in Dublin last year...a fair bit of quality on the field that day (including Cleverly and Macheda for Man U) but JET was stand out player on the field...I was with a couple of United fans and they couldn't believe that he hadn't got a run in our first team. He must have attitude issues as he certainly doesn't seem to lack ability...

He is a very good player, if he gets his head right he could help forrest come up to the prem

Steve mcclaren I think would be very good for jet and I think going to a big club in the championship is exactly what he needs. His ability is undoubted it's just his attitude. And at forest he would have a very good chance of getting back into the prem

23 Jul 2011 10:08:28
Because of Nasri's supposed rejection of a new £115,000 a week deal, I think we should sell him this season and Cesc Fabregas to buy two big names in the midfield.... One attacking (sneijder, hamsik etc) one defensive (schwinstiger, gattuso etc)

23 Jul 2011 09:07:59
I understand the calls for height/"a commanding centre half" but I don't know if that'll be of much benefit to us. Vermaelen and Koscielny can do the job if serious work is done on the training ground to build up a solid understanding and deal with set-pieces better. I genuinely think it's less about personnel, we've got good enough players, they just need to develop a good partnership and improve on our obvious weaknesses. Splashing out on Cahill will not only upset the cash flow, but will disrupt the defence which, with two new additions last summer, had difficulties in settling last season. Keep the players we have in that department and hopefully they have/will improve during pre-season. Ferdinand and Vidic's effectiveness is not just down to their ability and height alone but the fact they've been paired together for many years and have built up a proper rapport.

Dont Encourage Cheapness Because What Have We Won Recently

Are you for real if you are u know nothing bout football and are prob a dirty spud , guess u dont think we need a new rival GK either and u like bentner , yes they cound get a better partnership tho with pat rice around they wont learn anything new at arsenal , plus with TV allways injuryed they will never get chance but hey lets not buy a new defender lets just go again same as last year

tony too

Agree with the last two posts, your an idiot.

I think you make a valid point...Arsenals style leaves the back line very very exposed at times and playing like these requires lightening quick defenders...We definitely need a certain type of defender...the issue with most of these "commanding" centre back is they are often 6ft 3 plus and often lack pace...hard to play in a high line with that...really think thats why Squillaci suffered last season...Cahill, Jagielka and Samba all lack the pace to be arsenal defenders..unless of course we change the way we play

This is why Hummels would be great, tall and commanding but has some pace.

Another reason Man U's defense has been so solid is they almost always have competent and able back ups, and even players capable of challenging for their starting spots keeping them motivated. We haven't had 3rd/4th choice CBs capable of legitimately challenging our starters for years and we've suffered because of it.

Cahill is at least as quick as our own and Jagielka slightly quicker than Squillaci but positionally he is strong and both are used to the English game.With no LB could mean Vermaelen moving across with only 3 questionable CB's mental and physical problems and TV5 despite being the teams best CB, his fitness and defending can be questionable.

23 Jul 2011 08:39:33
anybody else seeing the papers this morning does not make good reading when will these players nasri clicly etc come to realize they themselves are to blame for no trophies you lot bottled it nasri you were a nobody when you came to the arsenal a few good display and you disrespect the badge well you no Wat our club are better off without you you petulant little **** and then the cesc rumor just keeps rolling along barca in london yawn to do a deal yawn 33.5 million yawn HE IS 40 MILLION when will you dumb ducks get it not 30 31 or 33.5

The story has come from tribal football i think and now all the papers are copying this story

Fabregas will be sold to Barcelona, a player will be bought, then Nasri will be sold, probably to City. We already have Wilshere who is better than the pair of them & Ramsey, who should progress following his return from injury. Our midfield could be Gervinho, Wilshere, Song, Ramsey & Arshavin. As well as a new signing. We will also have Abu Diably, Walcott, Rosicky & Frimpong.

Looking at that midfield without Cesc and Nasri, there's no way I'd be confident going into the coming season of winning anything. We need another DM as competition for Song as well as possibly a strong box to box mid in as I'm sick of giving Diaby chances to prove he can do this job. Rosicky is clearly way past his best due to his unfortunate injuries, Frimpong has immense potential but his ability on the ball needs to improve sharply for him to be effective in this league for us.

When will you lot get it? Nasri is class and is going nowhere.

23 Jul 2011 06:31:47
I dont think we have ever had probs scoring goals or creating chances or tearing teams apart, last season we tore man u apart without fabs in the team. Wenger always brings in quality attacking players on the cheap who do the business apart from the odd one or two but its clear we need to spend big on center def. Cahill is worth 20 mil to us at the mo. Jags 15 and Samba 10-12. Koncelny is very good capable def as we saw against barca but when the long balls come into the box we must be fav to clear the the ball which we are not at the mo, its 50-50 which is why so many teams throw it into box against us as they know anything can happen....which it usually does

Sometimes Because Of Our Obvious Style Of Play (which I love by the way) The Lesser Teams Which Sit Behind The Ball Aren't Broken Down Bolton? Fulham? Even Stoke We Need A New Striker Who Will Bring A Different View To Our Attack I'm Still Praying On BENZEMAAA

We actually struggle to score against teams that sit back, including man united at old trafford, chelsea at the bridge, sunderland anywhere, blackburn at home and so on.

It's good that every year we bring a talented plaayers, but the problem is we are becoming a selling club. When the guy adapts to EPL than he go to other club. That has to end. Obviously AW learned nothing from Flamini case... Nasri himself said he was waiting to sort things before, but nothing happened.

23 Jul 2011 04:45:22
Ed,

Any chance of Arsenal strengthening defensively by August 1st? Also, is there any indication of Arsenal being interested in Mats Hummels. I ighly rate this guy, probably just ahead of sakho because i felt he carried subotic throughout the season with subotic's lack of pace.

AND, why the stall on Gervinho's number? Is this an indication of another striker being brought in? maybe a certain Karim Benzema, who sports the number 9 at Madrid? {Ed002's Note - It is impossible to guess at the timings of transfers. Also, Sajho is not an option so put him out of your mind. I have no knowledge of numbers allocated to players. My advice would be not to read anything in to it.}

I work for arsenal direct the new arsenal online store and we are printing gervinho shirts with the number 12 on

23 Jul 2011 01:02:41
Dear Eds and all,

Just wondering what people's thoughts are on Chamakh in the pecking order? I saw him in pre-season and he was woeful, which is a real shame as I rate him but feel as though he is lost when he puts on the Arsenal shirt.

Also what's the feel with jenko? I though he looked like a really promising player against Malaysia XI, who, by the way, were NOT crap, and the man he was marking was rapid. I am impressed. Traore looked good too.

All thoughts welcome : for me Chamakh is seriously under-performing and I find that worrying.

Raz

He's A Bendtner Who Knows His Game Only Thing Is Arsenal Don't Play To The Head

Chamakh is a good player but really needs to learn to hold up play, if he could just hold up play a bit he could link up well with RVP and convince Wenger to give him more playing time. As for Traore I genuinely think he is no where near good enough for Arsenal.

Chamakh is poor. he was a good striker that came from a poor league. remember sylvain wiltord. we bought him when he was top scorer in the french league. couldnt hit a cows arsenal when he arrived so ended up on the wing. my order of strikers would be 1 RVP 2 walcott 3 arshavin 4 bendtner 5 vela 6 almunia 7 chamakh

Haha love the banter.... Gerv looks great though so for me he should be starting with Walcott, and RVP just behind.