Arsenal Rumours Archive May 23 2012

23 May 2012 17:17:33
So it sounds like we have had a 3m bid for Joe Allen turned down, thoughts people?
AYoungGunner

Wow! I am impressed by the club's ambition- NOT.

No disrespect meant to joe allen, I think he is a decent player- but COME ON ! FFS !

Probably worth a little more to be fair

Pretty tragic in my opinion. Nowhere near Arsenal standard. Could see Liverpool signing him. If we sign him I give up.

StEvE

Who told u that hyahahah

I think joe Allen would do well at arsenal to be honest, but if you've got the price right, I think Swansea would be naffed, and rightly so, he's worth a few mill more for certain, he had a great season in Swansea's midfield.

D

For a squad player I think he would not be a bad addition. Has one of the best successful tackle completion rates and number made in the league. Also his passing accuracy is high. Wouldn't expect him to be INSTEAD of M'Vila but a better option than Frimpong (maybe due to injury, still rate him) and probably the equal of Le Coq as it stands.

Its a load of rubbish according to swansea sources

Rubbish or not, I'm glad. His statistics are WORLD class. SOme of you literally just don't know anything, you think if a player comes up from the champ then they're not good enough, it's almost insulting to these players. Swansea's entire midfield was statistically better than any other prem midfield, 3rd best in EUROPE between August and Christmas, did you know that? Probably not because they're not foreign and expensive. Joe Allen in particular had world class stats. The only joke here is that we only bid 3m.

Joe Allen is a lightweight midfielder no way will he be

Please tell me why arsenal would bid for joe allen when they have: rosicky,wilshere,arteta,song,coquelin (comimg through) probably m'vila or capoue

World Class stats. His only Class stat is passing accuracy haha...

Some of us actually WATCH football and don't go on stats mate.

Gilo

I said months ago that joe allen and neil taylor were great prospects so i wouldnt mind this tbh..
fats

Yes Gilo and some of us watched Arsenal LOSE to Swansea, and get a fluke goal to beat them. In this case I think the stats are fair, plus they outplayed us in both games and we should really have been beaten once and drawn once 0-0, Arshavin got lucky when Vorm put it on a plate. No two ways about it, Joe Allen is definitely good enough, as are one or two others in that team perhaps, and at any Allen is light-years ahead of Ramsey for example. The question is do we need him, not is he good enough.

Thank god this guy^^^ knows what he's talking about. Questioning joe aliens ability is ridiculous!

Bradders

His better than ramsey

I agree, there are very good reasons why Brendan Rogers has been considered for manager of the season. Building a beautiful team on a shoestring. Also Allen can't be considered light weight he's just been competing in the EPL. I think he's made of sterner stuff.

In Arsene I Trust.

I actually like him but 3 million? he's worth around 8 million

23 May 2012 15:44:18
I just want to say that Arsenal NEED to sign Yann M'vila, the guy is an absolute beast and a class technical player and is only 21. He WILL be one of the next best central midfielders in the world. He is a box-to-box player like Alex Song but can sit there in the middle like Makelele. He is a MUST! When i saw the Etienne Capoue rumour i was not happy. I dont understand why Wenger won't just spend the money on him when he obviously can see that he is going to be a star.
D-Dot

He is fantastic. Although at this stage i think it will be more important for the fans to sign him after we missed Mata and Hazard. I really think he will be world 11 class one day.

MIKEE

Totally Agree...M'Vila IS a MUST for us, or else we will win Nada again!

23 May 2012 14:17:37
unfortunately city are edging on mvilla, viera has stated he dat he could b a top player in PL - lost out of another key signing just like we did with mata....Capoue will b the replacemnt.... arsenal jus never learns... nvm nvm...

If City are really in for M'Vila, we really have no hope of competing with them on the financial side of things. I wish people would just understand this, and stop bemoaning the club's reluctance to pay stupid wages. Capoue was one of the best midfielders in France this season and IMHO he'd be a great signing.

Spud Troll

It's not that arsenal don't learn it's the fact players are more interested in money of which city can offer a lot more. Put yourself in a players position (taking your arsenal goggles off for a minute) what would you do??

Sounds about right. But how much time would he get with Toure there?

Ok dat statement is nt tru cuz d press alwys say dat we'll nvr sign who we wnt, i still thnk tht we'll get d signing done.

See how hard it is to read?

Trololol

Man city just won the league. its not ONLY money people goto city for now, remember that.

If someone ask m'vila this question:

Hey david, who do you want to play in midfield with next year, yaya toure, eden hazard, samir nasri, david silva, gareth barry et al:

Or: song, rosicky, benyaoun, ramsey, walcott, gervinho.

Do you think money will decide this question?

R u not missing out wiltshere and arteta from the midfield? He's guaranteed game time with us.......he wont b at city!

So your moaning about us maybe not getting a player , when he hasnt gone anywhere yet

Man city are already looking unbeatable iof M'Vila and Hazard go there, I see them making big strides in Champions league as well.

Sad day for the sport - I suppose final will be Man city vs Chelsea/Madrid/PSG

Billybob

23 May 2012 12:33:16
Stop fretting people; Capoue is being lined up ''IF'' we fail to get our Yann...

Ben

Agree ben...but people get worried because we will probably fail cuz Wenger wont pay wat mvila is worth.

Why are people 'fretting' about Capoue? He's a quality player: great tackler, neat technique, taller than M'Vila and better in the air.

I'd be very happy to sign him.

Apparently fee is agreed. He will bid relatively big if needed.

Reina,Alonso,Mata

Seems like a fantastic plan B to me.... almost as good as plan A!!

billybob

I wouldn't mind either of them!!

Either is better then none!

CT

23 May 2012 08:08:39
Apparently we're bailing on M'villa and looking at Etienne Capoue from Toulouse, mainly because he's cheaper.

Capoue is a good young player but I'd prefer M'villa anyday.

D

No. Capoue is a back up option if we fail in signing M'Vila, talks are still on going and I fully expect him to join us before wxt season. Plus Capoue's llike 24? So not that young.

Ben X.

Typical arsenal, cheaper option! rvp will be impressed at our ambitiong. 17.7 that rennes want for m'vila is cheap in today's market and he will be double that next year.. good 1 wenger, youve saved 5 million quid, probly lost our captain in the process, so realistically you've saved the club 10 mill because rvp's 5 mill signing on fee wont be necessary. i dont think ill be spending my hard earned money to go see the most exspensive team(ticket prices i mean, not the actual team lol) in the world next season. bit of an insult, expect followers to pay big money to see a team, content on 3rd spot maybe 4th. this cheaper buy just signals are lack of ambition!

Frankly

although I still believe MVilla is on the table for Arsenal

...Capoue is a really good player...maybe even a better option then MVilla

Asyd

I presume it depends on whether we are able to sign M'Vila and at what price. Capoue is clearly an alternative. I dont expect too much too happen yet, as the window in europe isnt open until 1st July & the Euros interfere before hand. Most players will hope to have a decent euros & improve their chances of a big money move to a top side. Also, we have to offload several players to make room in the squad & raise funds. Almiunia has departed. Fabianski wants out, but we have to see if anyone actually wants him. Other possible/probable sales: Vela, Bendtner, Arshavin, Park, Chamakh, Squilacci, Djourou, Lansbury, Manone, etc

I said last year on this page about Capoue, i think he would be a great signing

IF this is true then it explains why us fans get so pissed off with the club regarding transfers. Always taking the cheapest way out.

We want M'Vila and the money is there to pay for him. Just bloody pay it! Stingy t**ts!

PS. I really rate Capoue but that's not the point.

StEvE

For those reaacting badly, please bear in mind that the other club interested in Capoue is Barcelona.

He was also one of the stand out performers in france this year... (even on goal's Ligue 1 team of the year)

He Capoue can come in for 10 mln, that is nearly half the price for a comparible player!! HOW IS THAT A BAD THING?

Billybob

If he is cheaper than m'vila, then its a sure thing he will come instead.

If this is true, then it's merely Arsenal's way of using Capoue as a bargaining chip to get the price down for Mvilla, old tactic used by many clubs in all honesty!

Look, I rate Capoue too, and to Ben, made a mistake make, swore he was 22!

But the point for me is why are we making what is a clear step down?
Why can we never have a scenario where we make a target, who's impressive, and just go for it?
And before you name podolski (who I'm truly happy about, great player, just because he didn't "cut it" at Bayern is irrelevant, he'll do well for us) do you honestly think if koln had stayed up, and he wasn't in his last year, we'd of gone for him?
Even if we did, we'd probably of offered a stupid amount.

I'm not a "sunshine" fan, I honestly love the club, but like most of the gunners I know personally, fans not players that is, and most on this site, I get frustrated by our transfer dealings and the fact no one REALLY knows why we don't spend more?

Is it the debt?
Is it stingy board?
Is it Wengers reluctance?
Is it silent stan wanting to profit off us for his sports franchises in America?

If Capoue came, I'd be happy, but id always have a slight resentment of him, because he's not the player I/we wanted, I could be eating my words in two years if he signs and becomes a world beater, but my initial opinion is once again, we've taken too long to establish ourselves as grad of the pack in the race to sign him, and city or inter or Madrid have offered more than we can/will and we'll lose out again.


Sorry for any spelling/punctuation/grammar mistakes, usi g a phone and autocorrect/keyboard Hates me.

D

As I already stated several times Yann M'Vila is so much overrated by you guys and the french press, most of the real football expert could tell you that he's not as good as everyone believe he is.

Regarding Capoue he's WAY better than M'Vila, at least he didn't have an average season, and he's way more regular.

I rather have Capoue than M'Vila anyday, Capoue has a personal problem with Laurent Blanc (he refused to join Bordeaux when he was the manager) that's why M'Villa been called the last 3 years in the French squad instead of Capoue.

You guys barely know the French League, while I live there and watch most of the games so I can tell you that:

CAPOUE > MAVUBA > M'VILA = N'ZONZI.

Just get it straight Yann M'Vila and Mahamadou Sakho are two of the most overrated player in Europe.

Capoue will cost £12 and is 1 year older than M'Vila but better than him and also he'd fit way more in our team than M'Vila, beside the fact that M'Vila is a morron (he had few stories with hooker, and so), while Capoue is a very nice person.

M'Vila would cost £20M, and would end up being our new Denilson in 3 years I take the bets.

Most of you guys seen him once (Wemblay against England) or twice, but honnestly I've seen him play at least 80 times he has NOTHING SPECIAL.

So Capoue > M'Vila any day, would be a way more smarter buy and you guys would be amazed by his performance.

Capoue vs M'vila is a tough arguement. For a static DM, who can win back the ball and make horizontal passes - M'vila is your man.

Capoue is a DM, but much more all-rounded, in similar fashion to song. On one hand that could be a good thing as they could take turns going forward, on the other hand, they risk both being forward.

Early on Capoue was receiving the same criticism song gets - in that he was not focussed enough on his primary job of being a wall ahead of the back 4.

Still he is a fantastic player.

Billybob

D he's 23 now 24 very soon

Typical Wenger buy cheap buy twice what a tightwad!

23 May 2012 00:32:29
Not heard any rumours about this, hopefully one or two might be thrown about, but I wanted to see what people would think if we made a move for Leighton Baines?

Overrated {Ed025's Note - best left back in the country, if not europe!... you dont really know much about football do you?..

Baines is not better than Cole which is why Cole is consistently picked for our country ahead of Baines. Baines is a very good left back but not the best in the country as many England managers decisions suggest.

Bermy Gooner {Ed025's Note - its all about opinions mate, i think he,s better than cole, as he gives the team more of a goal threat than cole..

Best left back in europe????????? you forgetting ashley cole, patrice evra, marclo, fabio coentrao and marcel schmelzer don't know much about football do you??? {Ed025's Note - that is your opinion..your very wrong..but hey, it takes all sorts pal..

Apparently he's a £12m target for united, I say we put in £9m with Gibbs on loan, I'd take him like a shot!

D

Think I would take a young Baines of a nearly retired Ca$hley Cole anyday and thats not just bitter memories, I just think Baines has everything at left back an in abundance at that. Go get him Wengy

Gavsta

I'd like Baines, always rated him. Gibbs can be cover for him.

Id take baines.. good solid english defendef, with flair. can get forward and provide service alos. would like van der viel for rb also, hes out of contract at ajax.. wont get either though, cos this is arsenal, we are cheap skates who dont invest in the team yet expect our fans to pays top dollar to come watch us! imlosing the faith and getting seriously annoyed at the lack of ambition we are showing regarding who we are looking at, cheaper options.. aka capoue instead of m'vila! even the spuds who have blown champs league are stating intent (vertonghen pursute etc). rant over.. for this rumour

We have two left backs & will not go for Baines. The only defensive signing would be a 4th centre back if we can offload Squilacci & Djourou. A back up keeper if Fabianski departs. A forward if RVP departs. I believe a defensive midfield player is Wenger's priority.

Why get rid of Gibbs who has the potential to be better than Cole and stop him playing in europes best competition(champs league) and making him a better player?

Takes a decent set piece and can actually cross unlike most of our players

maybe he could take training sessions!

Woundnt go for less than 20million

Ide be cockahoop! very good player , amazed nobody has made a serious move for him yet

This debate is all a bit academic. United are interested. As ever if City, United, Chelsea, Barcelona or Real ar interested in anyone they are gone.

His importance to a creatively shorn Everton side really exaggerates his overall value I think. In a side with more balance, and especially playing a higher, more proactive pressing game, I think his pushing up to cross to the one man who is ever at the edge of the box for us would be a bit of a liability. He's not uniquely pacey or powerful, after all. I can see him going to United, though - Sir Alex always did love a crosser.