Arsenal Rumours Archive July 24 2012

24 Jul 2012 22:06:30
Arsenal close in on Santi Cazorla signing
Arsenal are on the verge of signing Malaga winger Santi Cazorla, with manager Arsene Wenger hopeful a £15.6m offer will be enough to seal the deal.

Is this true??

Any news anyone?

Apprently, but once a rumour comes out everyone likes to exaggerate just look at the mvila rumours that stretche for so long with many people saying it was definatly but wenger just said hes not interested unless we have a midfield injury!

Bloke down the pub told me so, must be true !

Noticed in the euros del bosque was bringing him on most games ahead of mata, if hes rated higher than mata within the spanish camp this would be quite a coup for us! this deal feels more realistic than the m'vila situation and he would be a much better nasri replacement than benayoun who although didnt do badly was farrrr from a world beater

Malaga does not want to sell him. they bought him at 18m last season. they wont sell at 15m.

But why malaga then told that cazorla is NOT for sale?

finland gooner?

According to various sources it's pretty obvious that we are interested but the transfer will only go through if Malaga has to sell. In other words if their sugar daddy is not going to give them massive cash injection before the end of the month. I believe, however, that Malaga will get their money and therefore don't have to sell and we don't get Cazorla.

Because Malaga want more money. It is not a matter of whether they WANT to sell him, they have to if a big enough bid comes in.

I dont believe that Santi Cazorla is our answer, I base my decision on pure stats.We need a playmaker who creates goals. Carzola has only managed 33 assists in 251 club games, not that impressive and at 27 dont think its going to change much?

Mark
SA Gooner

He will join as malaga need money to pay off their debts to the spanish taxman and the government said they'll punish any clubs in debt due to teh economic state of spain.

They definitely will if their owner doesn't pay his debts. would malaga rather stay in la liga, get champions league money and lose their best player/s or get relegated, keep cazorla but lose all that money?

Why did we maintain for so long that RvP wasn't for sale...drive the price up and warn off interest as long as you can.

LD

Well, the reported release clause is 45m, so we are not going to match that. Therefore it's up to Malaga if they WANT to sell and they don't. Our only hope is their economic crisis which I believe will be sorted out soon.

I want Cazorla just as bad as any gooner but I'm just saying DO NOT GET YOUR HOPES UP. This has Mata written all over it

The deal will be hijacked by Man City, who have money to burn

24 Jul 2012 18:03:50
Arsene Wenger will look at Loic Remy of Marseille if Van Persie leaves, which is highly likely with the most probable destination Juventus. Wenger has been a long time admirer of Remy, who sees him as the next Thierry Henry, and Remy would be open too the move if an offer came in, although he is settled at Marsielle. However, Spurs would almost certainly try too hijack the deal as they are in the market for a striker, and were after him under Redknapp!

Carzola is a real possibility if Malaga agree to sell. Terms have apparently been reached between the player and the club, but this is not for definite. What worries me is if this potential transfer turns into the Mata saga last year, where it seems done and dusted, but another club comes in offering higher wages and blows us out of the water! Would like Carzola, very versatile and fits the Arsenal mould. Lets hope the rumours are true!

Walcott to sign a new contract very soon. I said from day 1 he would say with his comments about how he is looking forward to this new season with Oxlade-Chamberlain at Arsenal. Koscielny signing is great news! That is what commitment means Robin!

Ganso is someone who Wenger is interested in, but with his 3rd party owners, and his high price tag, this isn't as likely unfourtantley, especially if Carzola is signed, although both of these signings would really make us a force to be reckoned with!

A few more smaller signings could be made, like Egyptian left back Milo depending on how successful he is at the Olympics.

I note that you spell Cazorla wrong, just like some "in the know" on twitter. Either you are the same person or you believe everything you read and then re-post on here as your own fact.

Can we get his name right? It's Cazorla, not Carzola.

The Remy signing would only make sense if he's relegated to bench. He's nothing special, and wouldn't be a big help to a club with bigger aspirations like Arsenal. If he's brought into play some substantial role, it'll be a problem.

Also on the Cazorla link, I know everyone is excited to have him here, but apparently all the English media are running with one central rumour that seems to have popped up from somewhere regarding him already having agreed to terms with Arsenal. While it may be true, it would be good to stay cautious. The Spanish media have reported little, and what they have reported is word for word taken from what the English media are reporting.

I really hope the deal goes through, but I'm also tired of all these players Arsenal are linked to, but never seem to end up at Emirates in the end.

Thanks for placing all the known arsenal news we've all had over the week. What did you google arsenal then copy and paste? All stuff we've heard and know

Well at least Remy looks like Thierry! Serious look at him

Rather have llorente if I'm honest

24 Jul 2012 16:14:00
City Talk - Alisher Usmanov is thought to be looking into buying Stan Kroenke shares for £300-£350m, which he bought for £200m.

Azz the Gooner

Fingers crossed but I want Wenger to stay.

Rob

Don't want this shady bloke putting his grubby fingers around the club. Not defending Kroenke, but Usmanov is a right old w***er

Why is he shady, don't no much about him but have heard this before

Kroenke has previously turned down a larger offer, so not going to expect this......

Abramovic is dodgy yet chelsea fans dont give a toss.

Go look up about usmanov, it's depressing so many arsenal fans are prepared to ignore his filthy past and believe me it is filth,just so they can have his money,which he has never even promised anyway. I prey these fans think twice when deciding who they want to babysit their kids. Let's keep some class and decorum which is lacking at so many other clubs. You know who I'm talking about. UP THE GOONERS. Flybo

Can't happen soon enough, kroenke borrowed to purchase his shares and agreed not to sell for a set time. Usmanov could buy kroenke many times over and actually wants to bring investment in. All this talk off him being shady is spin from kroenke and the arsenal board to try and discredit usmanov.

They're also Chelsea fans...

Pakistan AFC

You don't become a billionaire without a few suspicious dealings.

I'd be happy with him in power, can't be worse than kroenke...

D

So because Chelski fans do something, we should do the same?

Anyways, I don't know what to make of Usmanov. As far as him being shady like the other poster stated, it's true. He's been convicted of racketeering in the past, had ties to a heroin drug lord, has been involved in bribing high ranking individuals, was involved in the mysterious death of a Russian journo, and apparently raped someone in Uzbekistan (hardly surprising considering how easily women get raped over there and nothing is done). Apparently Putin has used him to shut down media opposition also.

I don't know what kind of character Abramovich is, and I don't care to know. I personally wouldn't want individuals like that running any club. It's a double-edged sword sometimes for the fans, but this is the world we live and indulge in.

Would love this to happen, be nice to obtain some funds form a actual football fan. Not just a sport fan

How the hell is this spin by Kroenke? This has been on the Internet for 7-8 years. Some of you will do anything to get rid of Kroenke. There are things out there bigger than Arsenal FC, and sports in general.

So what are these suspicious dealings Kroenke has taken part in?

He should be tried for investing in Wal-Mart, that's about it.

Kroenke nor Usmanov are anything Arsenal fans should want a part of. One takes profits out of the club, the other is a severely diseased individual.

You've clearly not read the statement released by Red and White Holdings then have you? Stated he wasn't happy with running of club, not happy with star players leaving season after season and wants to give WENGER a war chest to compete with likes of Chelski and Citeh

All billionaires have shady pasts, personally if Usmanov can do more for Arsenal than Kroenke then I'd prefer him. First port of call would be to sign Yaya Toure and Aguero and see how City like it.

Bergkamp's apprentice

Usmanov?

As an Arsenal fanatic - FANATIC - of 46 years, I'd rather go another 46 years without a trophy than see this man in charge. It galls that he is even connected.

Search yer interweb for Craig Murry's assessment of this man (former ambassador to Uzbekistan).

Google the guardian article of 2007 reporting his alleged shady dealings, and other allegations. No doubt kroenke supporters will accuse a proper newspaper who actually investigated these things liars too for not agreeing with them

Russians and co put the downers on a good thing because they are all jealous, how many times do we hear these kind of story's made up via the net to put people down. Where is the proof innocent b4 guilty, the Western way. Live for hope.

Usmanov has a history of putting lots of money into sports teams, and then leaving the club. this then puts the team in major debt. he isnt trustoworthy

Usmanov is a big admirer of wenger!

Yeah baby !

He is kept off the board for good reason and would ruin the club in the long term, just watch what will happen to chelsea and city it will be even wrose than what happened to rangers.

Hi

Sorry to doubt your numbers but the value of the club was recently put £750m and as Sam owns 70%, he would be looking at a minimum of £500m to sell his shares.

Stuart the Gooner

Interesting how the Supreme Court of Uzbekistan ruled that the original conviction was unjust, no crime was ever committed, and that the evidence was "fabricated".

anyway doesnt matter how corrupt he was (even if unproven he probably was dodgy), he's an incredible investor tho, including his share purchase. I think he'll invest well in Arsenal. I dont see anything on the net about what that poster said about investing in other sports teams then leaving them high and dry. I cant see anything where he invested in any other sporting team. maybe you can point me in the right direction so i can have a read of that, unless ur are full of bs??

Rob

On 5th July 2012, Alisher Usmanov criticized Arsenal's lack of ambition and financial model in an open letter sent to the board. "You can try and put a good face on a bad game for as long as you want, pontificating about the merits of this model, but it will not hide the obvious fact that it just does not allow our great manager to fully realise his managerial talent and deliver success for the fans who are paying the highest prices in the land." This criticism came as consequence of football player Robin Van Persie decision not to extend his contract. Usmanov wrote "Yet again we are faced with losing our true marquee player at the club because we cannot assure him of the future direction and give confidence that we can win trophies." Usmanov, who remains a majority shareholder, states that he has no intention of selling his shares

This so called statement released when RVP flipped and spoke out came from the company Usmanov operating as Red & White Holdings. I wouldnt go to far to say it was heart writing plea from the man himself but an R & W spin doctor probably wrote the statement with input from David Deins team of advisors. Truth be known if David Dein came out on SKY Sports News tomorrow with 100% full support of Usmanovs intentions and said there is nothing to hide or shady to worry about it would get my support. With AFC having David Dein back on the board he knows Arsenal & Arsene inside out. Arsene is a man of class and dignity to the current AFC regime and doing the best with the limited resources from the board. Arsene is not daft.... hes on a massive contract from the current board and who knows maybe if and when Usmanov gains control Arsene will be onto a win win situation....better contract for him & top £££ to get the player deals and contracts to match the slime of city & chelski. Looking forward to this season and just hope the squad are all up for it and get out of the blocks to make there intenions clear. Hold your heads high Gooners, we will always be The Arsenal. Devongooner

What are (half of you) lot on about?

Who CARES what kind of past he has? As a fan I want TROPHYS! This takes MONEY!

We need serious investment to keep our best players and buy new ones. We can't buy the players Man U, City and Chelsea can and thats why we'll win nothing once again!

24 Jul 2012 14:26:27
Carzola looks set to join arsenal
for a club record of 16.3 million
pounds after being seen in north
London agreeing contract terms.

Really, how come no other media are aware?

Would be awsome.. Cazorla, Podolski & Giroud...

If he was seen in north London where is the photo......i think we are in for him but dont make stories up please

Who has seen Cazorla in London agreeing terms? any proof on this . I fr sure feel we will be a much better team this season.

The telegraph...mail.... and guardian are running the story.....but graham hunter talksports spanish reporter broke this last week......LONDON EVENING STANDARD ASWELL......Left sided midfielder/winger.....great touch ans vision

Carzola is in London and has agreed personal terms but Malaga want bentner as part of the deal and he is having none of it as usual.inside info.

Guardian led on Carzola agreeing terms, this appears the easy part, now Malaga have to agree to sell him

Really hope Carz doesn't join. I'd rather see Wenger throwing the 20 mil on an extreme young talent like M'Vila or Gotze etc. Not some 27 yr old who will be gone in 2 years like Arshavin.

GOTZE....has extended his contract....please please stop saying we are gonna buy him or should buy him.....we have some good young players in the squad but most of them lack the real world class pass in the final third....this guy has the ability to receive the ball in tight areas of the pitch, lay off and look to receive it back.....a real intelligence about him.....Ifeel the wide players Walcott(over rated)Arsarvin(out of position)Gilvinho(cant right him off after one season) have underperformed.The last player to play well in a wide position was Robert Pires........class and plenty of goals....km.

It makes sense to sign a 27 year old
by the time he has past his prime in the red and white, the ox will have suffiecient experiance and by the JW and maybe (not expecting much ) even ramsey and eisfield who looks a real prospect, will all be mature ENOUGH and do us proud, thus we our kids will be ready and they wont be thrown in the deep end which can end careers. so it is a move which is perfect to bring in the youngsters.
COYG
gimmeg6

Deal agreed from what I hear, he is London with Richard Law, having his medical. Expect an announcement early next week.

24 Jul 2012 12:26:47
Milan now joining the RVP hunt, they are trying to keep the ultras happy after losing two big names.

If they can pay 20mln, I am happy for this to happen.

Never want players that don't want to be there.

Disgruntled employees affect everyone!

Billybob

Arsenal to Milan would be a step down. They are offloading top players to reduce the wagebill, the greedy dutchman would only add to the wagebill.

But they just wiped about EURO270k a week off the wage bill with Ibra alone, let alone Thiago Silva - if they got RvP and a replacement centre back then I am sure their total wages would be nowhere near that of Ibra and Silva combined

Right because a club trying to reduce its wagebill would want a player taking £195000 a week. They are after players like Bendtner whose wage demands are alot less. I dont know if you know but AC Milan withstanding debts are over £250 million!

24 Jul 2012 11:08:21
The Guardian announced, that Arsenal has agreed terms with Cazorla!:)

Hope its true, have to wait untill its comfirmed on arsenal.com or sky sports news

Sounds great, but the hardest part is still to come, getting Malaga to agree to sell him and accept less then £20 million.

Surely everyone knows that if terms are agreed then a deal with club is done?

arsenal dont do dodgy hotel deals - this is either complete rubbish or done deal

It might not be a 'dodgy deal' the club may give permission to discuss personal terms before a fee has been finallised.

It doesn't matter what terms are agreed between Arsenal and Santi Cazorla if Malaga don't agree the price the deal isn't happening. AW is trying to knick a crafty bargain because of the tricky situation that Malaga are in. This is not a done deal.

Would be great if it happened but we all remember what happened to juan mata last year, similar player to mata come to think of it. hope springs eternal.

24 Jul 2012 10:52:32
OFFICIAL:

Kos the boss has signed a new long term contract with the gunners.

Now that's loyalty *cough* RVP *cough*

Ted

Top player, so lucky to have him. Great signing by Wenger.

Kos's biggest show of loyalty for me, was the goal vs west brom in the final day of the season, the way he celebrated, hitting the badge, the guy has some seriou passion.

D

I don't know if it is an intentional move by the club, but 'late bloomers' like Giroud and Kos are perhaps more likely to be loyal because they are grateful for the chance they have.

Apparently walcott will stay too. he just tries to get a higher wage

24 Jul 2012 10:29:00
The Spain winger Santi Cazorla has agreed terms to join Arsenal and leave Málaga this summer. Arsène Wenger is keen to sign Cazorla, whom he monitored last summer, and he is hopeful that an offer of 20m (£15.6m) can close the deal with a basic agreement in place with the player.

Al

From SkySports, quotes from Malaga: "Cazorla is not for sale, we do not talk about rumours in the press and our plans are not to even negotiate his exit"

ED / anyone -

Does anyone have an inside track on this one? I have heard nothing to indicate that this is happening (barring back pages).

Billybob

Perfectly cut and pasted from the Guardian! Good news though! Proves that maybe someone on here has contacts cos his name has floated about for a bit.
Drumsofdotl

I often see comments having a go at a poster, for putting a rumour up on here, i cant be bothered to read 7 papers, id much rather have a digest of genuine paper talk than someone saying his mum used to clean for ivan gazidis and last week he said the house was messy, so that was proof we were buying a certain argentinian from barcelona. it is a rumours site, it doesnt matter that the source may not be obscure. i think people should be a little nicer to those who bother to post stuff theyve heard. and just take everything with a pinch of salt til its confirmed on arsenal.com

24 Jul 2012 09:22:39
Koscielny agrees new long-term contract ( arsenal.com )

charismato

Brilliant news, absolutely delighted. That's as big a boost as a new signing imho. Bosscielny is the man! ;-p
K1ck3m0n x

Signing of the season if you ask me.

Gavsta

This news triggers a need for me to say something.

All those Arsenal fans who find fault with the club, our manager, how the club is run etc, should just look at this news and see that players who are true Gunners, are honoured to play for us, feel the same connection as we do with the club, believe in it as an entity and understand what they are lucky enough to be involved in.

Our club is a great club, we have a fundamentally sound approach to finance, we have morales, we have history, we have passion and we play the game the way it is supposed to be played.

Everyone complaining about us not paying 10s of millions of pounds for this star and that star should take a look at our history.

We have bought two very good players (Giroud and Podolski), we have Wilshere to come back, we some unbelievable talent (Ryo, Benik Afobe, Chucks Aneke, Joel Campbell, Toral, The Ox and the list goes on).

We should not become fickle as other teams supporters are (Anyone say Spuds?) but be proud of, and revere our club the way the "right type of players" do (Verm, Kos, Bacary, Wilshire) and did (Bergkamp, Henry, Pires).

And those that find fault with our Manager, Arsene Wenger, ewhom transfromed both our club, and the league, should be ashamed.

I believe there are additional changes to come, let us unite, support, and deliver the passion to our team, that we expect from our players, and are being shown by those who are committing and those who have committed.

As a Cardiff City fan, I am pleased to confirm that Arsenal are a truly great club. Typified by their thoughtful gift every Christmas to Derek Tapscott who played for them and us in the 50s/60s and the huge wreath they sent here for Derek's funeral. You should all be proud to support such a club.

Redbird

To the above comments about 'arsenal fans who find fault with the club' - just one side comment the club are great with structure in which it is run, but we still pay the most for our season ticket and merchandise and yet still lose our best players year in and year out - the sums dont add up, we should either get cheaper season tickets or pay more money to the star player..................

Good im glad, im cardiff based gooner and like both teams, tapscott is a legend, we have always had a lot of crossover players, mcdermott, wood, ramsey, Jet, rhys weston. Finally i am pleased to see you have finally seen sense and adopted our colours too! .....(sorry for the cheap joke, couldnt resist, meant the rest of that stuff though)

You forgot Brian Walsh., Mike Tiddy and George Johnston

I agree that we are a great club being run professionally. but its not good business to let your top players contracts run out. you cant sell your best players every year and still hope to maintain champions league football each season. last year was fab and nasri. this year RVP who will it be next year Wilshire ? scezney?. ivan the terrible, hillwood and the american are going to milk the cow until there is nothing left to sell apart from the stadium. and who knows what they'll do then.

23 Jul 2012 23:18:15
song to be named vice captain also!


KAY9

Sagna wud b btter if he wasnt injuried!

He deserves it.

I heard it will be Arteta

I'd rather give it to Jack, he will inevitably become captain in the future.

Rob

23 Jul 2012 23:14:17
walcott will sign a new deal when arsenal return from the pre season tour, i for one am pleased! KAY9

I wudnt mind playing walcott as the second striker behind Giroud

I will be a very happy man if theo stays !:D he is still very young and promising!

I think give Walcott a chance upfront, he could be ourquicker version of Hernandez was on his first season for united.

Me too, Theo should stay.

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