Arsenal Rumours Archive July 25 2011

25 Jul 2011 21:54:18
According to goal.com Roma have agreed a 5.2m deal for Stekelenburg. If this is true what is Wenger doing? Sell Almunia and Fabianski leaving us with Stekelenburg, Szczesny and Mannone. Goalkeepers sorted for many years.

The reason we need a new goalkeeper is simple.. if Szczesny gets a long term injury we are f***ed again as Fabianski will do the opposite of his job and cost us points. I can't believe no-one else wants another keeper brought in. Very naive to think we'll be okay in that department this season.

Was going to post exactly this before I read this. I totally agree, yes Szczesny is a decent keeper. However he is young and inexperienced, Stekelenburg isn't that much more experienced however he is a solid starting international keeper and is still considered young for a keeper as they seem to go on forever nowadays.

As you said if Wojciech gets injured we're stuck with Flappyanski and we don't want that, I say Stekelenburg No.1 and Szczesny No.2 Send the others on loan but dont sell them they do have some potential

Fabianski was pretty good before he got Injured and now he's got confidence he's a pretty decent goalie. We don't need a goalkeeper, szczesny will be Our goalkeeper for a good 10 years and if we get someone like stekelenberg it will just be a massive waste of talent and it will probably lead to Szcznesy leaving. We need a Centre-back and a Striker (to cover for African nations when chamakh, Song, And Gervinho go). Stop moaning.

If you think Fabianski is adequate cover then my faith in humanity is all but gone. How many years did Ben Foster sit on Utd's bench? That's the problem with this club there is NO competition for places worth talking about. Fabianski isn't even close to being good enough to push Szczesny therefore he won't work hard to excel and become complacent so THAT is the waste of talent. I'd definately rather have TWO good goalkeepers than one cos when you have just one and he gets injured you're buggered

Fabianski played as many games as szczesny last season and i can't remember him making a single mistake. wonderful saves, just little problems with crosses but nothing big. great goalie he'll fight for the no 1 spot with szczesny

I agree but wenger will only thinkk about the club in the future so sadly stekelenburg is out of the question so he should just bring a decent older keeper like Buffon for cheap and start szczesny and he's their on the bench to take over if szczesny is not up to it, From No1 GOOOONER

Newcastle at the Emirates springs to mind.

Fabianski was great when before he got injured, and wasn't much worse than Szcznesny. He's always been a pretty good goalkeeper but just lacked confidence. You could see that after he made that penalty save against partizan, he hardly made an error and pretty much won us the game away to wolves. People who still moan about fabianski didnt watch much of last year.

25 Jul 2011 20:01:02
I heard that Fabregas going for £33.5mill and thiago, Juan Mata still on going, Gary Cahill bid being prepared, Lauka could be signed if arsenal make a good enough offer, Benzema ruled out unless madrid sign another striker and finally another defender was linked; Diego Goden which could happen if arsenal bid in the region of £14-16mill.

MKDONS GOONER

Cheers, so if we bid enough for the player, then we might have a chance of getting them. leaving your options open here aren't you?

25 Jul 2011 17:38:36
Just heard Arsenal have told Barcelona that they want 33 million pounds and Thiago Alcantara for Cesc. Personally i think it is a good deal.

Be a fantastic deal.... Can't see Thiago wanting to join though somehow. =(

WG

Would be ....If it was true

Yeah but would it be another cesc with him wanting to move when we make him the one the best mid fielders n then barca want him back so it all happen again

The only way they would throw thiago in is if there was a buy back option in the contract.. cant see it happening personally though

I would much rather take Afellay and try to convince Nasri to stay.

Good deal but they will never give us alacantra unless we sell him back if he turns out good so take 40 million or 35 million with 2 unknown youngstars

25 Jul 2011 17:18:54
Just read PSG are interested in Chamakh for around 15m. Link is quite dodgy, but curious what people's opinions would be on selling Chamakh, considering his poor form and lack of confidence 2nd half of last season and preseason, and holding onto Bendtner.

He wont be going anywhere, the only reason he fizzled out 2nd half of last season was he was getting used to the physical side of the premier league..... bendtner to go for sure

I'm sure he improve a bit this coming season, but +£15 million in one year is a good bit of dealing. Also it's worth noting that at Arsenal his goals to games ratio is pretty much the same as at Bordeaux.

I like Nick, the problem is he has difficulty finding the net. Chamakh played so little last season you can't really tell but he is class. Keep him - flog Bendtner.
The reason Chamakh was played so sparingly? Another one of AW tight-arsed deals where he negotiated the deal on appearances - anything over this amount of games we have to give you another blah - million quid.
Chriss

Sell, take the money and run

I think that could be true but we need to give chamkh a chance i think he could be the other striker we need to fill in for RVP
when injured. chamkh just needs time with other young srikers to come in this summer as well i think that problem could be sorted

Let bentner go for rip of price

25 Jul 2011 17:12:43
how many players do you think we will buy

103 i think....

25 Jul 2011 16:03:31
I heard a crazy rumour that Arsene Wenger might try to tempt Luka Modric to Arsenal to replace Fabregas.

{Ed022's Note - It's crazy because its not gonna happen. Spurs don't actually want to sell and have already rejected two big offers from Chelsea. One reportedly around £30m. Arsenal's transfer record is around £15m which was paid for Arshavin. To think Wenger (the same guy who looks to have Arsenal in profit every transfer window) will double (and some) his transfer record on a Spurs player is laughable. Even if he was for sale Chelsea would blow us out the water anyway...}

Pure nonsense Toot wouldnt sell to Arsenal. Modric is overrated & overpriced. We already ahve better at the club & the last thing we need is another dwarf.

I think Wenger is having problems tempting anyone to Arsenal right now

Wenger coulda signed Modric way back and chose not to so why would he spend a squillion quid on signing him to replace Cesc? Oh, because you live in La-la land. Numpty.
Chriss

25 Jul 2011 15:00:21
ok guys...i know we are all getting decidely down in the dumps about the "ins" and projected "outs" at our fine club but one little conspiracy theory came into my head.
Arsene has said that he will only sign players who he can believe will be better than what we have. so on the basis of that statement do we think we will actually sign players of a higher class than we have.
my theory is that the players we have seemed to be interested in have eventually moved to our rival clubs.
of course we were interested in the likes of phil jones and had a fleeting interest in stewart downing who moved to united and liverpool respectively, and now interest which has seemed to have appeared out of no where for lukaku.
im just wondering if the supposed bids which were submitted for these players were to be genuinely followed up....aside from jones who wenger really really wanted i honestly couldnt see the other two at the emirates.
im just wondering if this was a deliberate attempt to have teams spend their funds early this season and give us more room for movement.
just a thought.
i really hope this is the case as usually transfers are completed before the usual summer friendlys are played. im beginning to start worrying guys, but really hoping i am proved wrong and there are some good players coming in.
on a great note: gervinho looked on the level and seeing jenkinson play again i am pleased that we potentially have unearthed another gem.
sad to see young henderson have a bad day and no one likes to see that sort of injury on a young pro. hope the lad gets a big get well soon.

Deluded mate, we all have days like this. i would like to have one shread of belief in this but alas just make sure you are well lubed up for the worst

Lukaku isn't new news - AW has been watching him for a long time. What is happening is that anyone that AW is scouting is being picked off by other clubs.

25 Jul 2011 14:26:51
ed i was hoping you can tell me if chelseas alex is a target for arsenal and also i heard that nigel de jong has stalled on a contract with city maybe a swap deal with nasri, you think this would be a good deal?

{Ed022's Note - De Jong currently gets in the region of (wait for it..) £160,000 a week! He is looking to extend his contract and boost (unbelievably...) his wages. There is no way Arsenal will top £120,000 so that is a complete non-starter! As for Alex, the usual speculation, a bit like we were linked with Salamon Kalou during the January transfer window. Wouldn't be surprised if Alex's agent wasn't angling for a new contract for him, hence the link. For me, both non-starters. Sorry!}

25 Jul 2011 12:59:55
Emmanuel Eboue has agreed personal terms with Galatasaray and is now destined to leave Arsenal in a deal worth around £4m.
Bossarsenal

Well with Carl Jenkinson in at RB...eboue can go. especially for 4 million. its been tried and hes failed...time for a new guy.

{Ed022's Note - What happened to the fans who said... "Eboue's a good person to have around the dressing room!" We surely can't lose our class clown? Can we?!}

True true Ed I want him 2 stay as well.
Bossarsenal...

I don't understand why were letting him go for so little. He was a fantastic RB before Sagna came in and he's been a solid back up for the most part. Jenkinson looks quality but with our defensive problems over the last few years I'm not confident in him yet if Sagna goes down for any period of time.

Well im sure for locker room morale eboue would be great...but the wages hes on which should be between 30-50k a week...i think thats an expensive class clown.

He plays well in small games rubbish when the pressure is on. Its time for a new mentality...I want those players who have proven nothing to go...start again if we have to...we need to get things right...no time for sentiment...we are trying to win trophies...as much as everyone think Jenkinson is not ready he seems to have grit...and thats already made him better than eboue in my eyes.

I agree is a high price for a benchg player, however arsenal are losing the characters that have been there for years we need to have players that stay at arsenal and retire there. yeah its good to get the money out of them but for team sprit wise, we need players that want to stay at arsenal forever not until they can be moved on or until they want to leave. eboue is a cool head that i believe that looks after the younger players we need more figures like this cos i bet rosicky doesnt nor arshavin

Eboue has been an embarassment. His play acting was vulgar. glad to see the back of him.

Just for the sake of having a player retiring as an arsenal player we cant keep rubbish players...im sure hes a good guy and all that...but on the pitch hes had 2-3 good offensive touches a game and then gets destroyed or does something silly in defense

25 Jul 2011 12:39:23
Jay Emmanuel Thomas set to join Ipswich for around £1million, which is a shame cos he could have been a good squad player for us

Simply not good enough - had enoough loans to impress. Tough but thats the facts.

He has only made 5 appearances, so has never really been useful.

{Ed022's Note - Fantastic youth team player with a great strike rate. Probably his greatest highlight was a world class trick and finish against Everton reserves/youth team. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZixaQA5CGw }

25 Jul 2011 12:37:56
COBBLERS-GOONER....... Can this really be true ......Ipswich are set to sign Arsenal striker Jay Emmanuel-Thomas for £1.1m. (Source: Daily Mirror)... sure not ??

True m8

25 Jul 2011 12:17:57
Cesc fabregas by the end of the week done deal £35m cash no add ons, no player exchanges.
Jags to follow £15m and the usual random donkies that AW like to buy.
Henderson, Frimpong, Afobe, Lansbury and Jenkinson will play first team next year the kids have 2 more games to prove they're place.

ALSO

Dont admire Cesc for his handing of the saga he has caused this saga to drag on from season to season. He is our captain but he wants to move back home he should man up and say I want to leave but only if AW is happy for me to do so. Doing that is what a real man would do, Viera did it and so did Henry. He is gutless and underhand telling his closest one thing and AFC another he is damaging the team and fans trust. We dont hate Henry (went to barca) or Viera (went to Juve) infact they are bigger than Fab ever was or will be, they were true leaders and true hero's.

Honestly, how can you blame Cesc for wanting to go back to Barca. People are making arguments that they may be the best club squad ever. He's made it clear what he wants without being disrespectful to Arsenal. I don't see how he's been underhanded unless you'd prefer he come out and tell the fans the team is s**t as well as disrespecting Arsene. Look at the quality of player Wenger has surrounded him with for the most part, and it was clear for several seasons he gave his all to win with us. The whole "saga" is certainly a massive distraction, but if he's unhappy here due to the quality of players we keep signing and our failure to mount any real challenge for trophies for so long, what else can be done? I'd be perfectly fine cashing in on him now if Barca are willing to make a reasonable offer (40m+ or 30m+ player) and wish him the best. I also think its pretty clear he should never have been made captain, but the fault there lies completely with Wenger for thinking a squad of youngsters should be captained by a rather quiet player just because he happens to be immensely skilled.

Whatever the circumstances if he wishes to leave for Barca then he should just say "i want to go back to barca, i appreciate everything everybody has done for me but it is time to move on" no telling xavi and pique and all the others that he feels trapped or barca shirts or stuff like that he could come out squash them rumours or apologise or just be honest. He aint a man he is letting AW deal with it and Barca are exploiting the fact he wants to leave. Fabs is letting it happen he is not defending his club, of which he is captain, just hiding. He maybe surrounded by below par players but if that is the reason come out and say it adams, viera and keown would've done it what is fabs scared of dont sign a contract unless you wanted to stay.

That's just it though, he has certainly told Arsenal he wants to leave as well as telling the media on a few occasions. Cesc's silence on the issue is more respectful to Arsenal and the fans than trying to force a move by whining to the media daily or what would be a meaningless gesture of calling Barcelona disrespectful, as we all know he prefers to move. He has been loyal to the club in my eyes and is the difficult possession of trying to be respectful to two clubs which have little love for each other, one of which is playing fantastic football at the moment, and the other which has giving him the opportunity to break through on the world stage and play a huge part for the past several seasons, although failing to challenge for the most part. As far as Xavi and Pique comments, there's no way those can be attributed to Cesc as they're just trying to destabilize our club and force a sale for cheaper. The responsibility for how long this has gone on lies strictly with Barca for constantly low-balling us and insulting us in the media to try to keep his price as low as possible. If Barcelona were to act respectfully and professionally, this would have been sorted last summer. I hope he finally comes to see these joke transfer sees as an insult to Arsenal and himself and finally tells Barca to h*ck off, but I don't see it happening.

If he wants to leave, fine. But with four years left on his contract he can go to the highest bidder. In all fairness, he is not a position to dictate where he wants to go Personally, I now want him (and Nasri) out asap.

Agreed but it is not disrespectful to go the route that Viera and Henry went they came out and said "I want to move on to a new challange I will hold AFC in my heart always but I feel the time is right. We dont judge foreign players for this as this is what they do it is the culture where if an Englishman did it there is always money or the big teams have come calling. Contrary to popular belief AFC and FCB's relationship is very good the players are another story but the boards are very close. Barca offered £40m+ last season and we said no, AW made a mistake and he is making another 1 with Nasri it is a massive gamble he must go before the end of the window if he doesn't sign his contract, I feel he has conducted himself better he hasn't hid from the fact that he wont sign unless the club makes a statement of intent to make trophy challenges by adding qulaity not quantity to the squad. If we added the right players to the side 5-6 and removed the deadwood 6-8 then gave the kids there chance he would be happy he dont want £30m signings he wants positive action but the action consists of letting Given slip thru to Villa (Mistake 1), not signing Parker on season loan (Mistake 2) Not aquiring 2 CB's by July (Mistake 3) he should've prepared for the close season earlier like SAF and KK did, but he "only focuses on the football" at the final point of the season, we did well on that didn't we, what is an Assistant Manger for, in Pat Rice's case not a lot.

North Bank Elite

Agree with all of that. Well put

Cesc signed a contract until 2014. Real captain wouldnt leave the ship and won nothing. And we need a captain that have "balls"... When we needed a player to take responsibillity in crucial moments of games, I didnt see no Cesc, no Nasri. The real hero that have balls in this team is Jack.

25 Jul 2011 12:13:48
Arsenal have agreed a fee with Juan Mata. The players representatives are currently negotiaitng personal terms with Arsenal. Expect the deal to be concluded and announced by Friday. are reporting that Mata will not be sold, but ignore this. This is simply part of the agreement with Arsenal to deter other clubs from attempting to hijack the deal.

Dublin Gooner

Are you sure ? because i dont know about every other gooner but this would be an amazing signing.
But then again the dublin gooner hasnt benn that accurate has he .

{Ed022's Note - Not especially but then again if you throw enough s**t then some of it will stick...}

Source? I'd love to see it happen but any truth in it?

{Ed022's Note - He's gone from Liam Brady to an unknown "source" this time...}

I hope u are right but will it really be done by Friday? how do you get these details?

Rob

Llorente is adamant the skilful attacker is not for sale at any price.
"The decision is clear and money will not change our position, " Llorente told Superdeporte.
"Valencia will not sell to any club that wants to buy Mata."
Shock me Mr. Dublin Gooner...
Bossarsenal.

So we believe you like we were waiting for your big story last week when you just didn't post a thing or confirm anthing whatsoever.

you lost all credibility to big claims you made and 2 misses, if you make a mistake or judt make something up then say dont hide

Would be an amazing signing, but I've been let down too often by Arsenal being linked quality players in recent years to get my hopes up until its a done deal.

Too much guiness has influenced this rumour, and a no doubt other imaginary board member or member of arsenal coachin staff this time.
BD

Really want to believe you mate...hope you aint messing with us

I know Valencia are saying he's not for sale but I swear it was reported a while ago that he had a buy out clause in his contract at about 20+ mil, in fact I remember a few weeks ago Graham hunter (reliable??) on saying so Come to think about it he also said that arsenal and another unamed epl team had met that clause {Ed002's Note - Please forget buy out clauses - they cannot be invoked across international borders and at best give an indication of what a club may accept. The buy out clause is the biggest red herring in football.}

Make us a deal then Dublin Gooner, if by Friday Mata has signed we'll give you the credit you deserve, if however he ain't then please stop posting jack-a-norys on ere. Its either A) You're a true fan and in the know. Or B) You're a knob.... no offence intended....yet =)

25 Jul 2011 10:16:28
arsenal will sign cb sebastian coates this week for 15m. he was outstanding in the copa america

This week?? whats your source and how much would you be willing to bet that he doesn't come "this week"

25 Jul 2011 02:20:45
Rumours circulating that we're going to make a cheeky bid for Alex at around 12m. Heard about this a couple months ago, hoping it's true. Far better than Cahill and Jagielka. To be honest I think we need a LB more than we need a CB, but this is not my decision.

IMO Alex would be a decent signing...Vermaelen is very good CB but would like to see him pushed to LB for a few games pre-season to see how things go..

I think we definitely need a left-back, I feel sorry for Gibbs who is a decent left-side midfield player, but not a left-back. Traore is poor cover. We also need a tall commanding centre back, my choice would be Cahill, who fills an English spot, is 6'3" & is 25 years of age. My second choice is Samba. I do not want Jagielka, he is poor, only just 6ft & not particular quick.

We need at least 2 quality CB not a squirt like Jagielka, plus a proper Midfield Enforcer.If this does not happen I think Wenger should be sacked. Look at the rubbish that he has brought into the Club in the last few years - Silvestre, Squallci

{Ed022's Note - Wenger knows he will live and die by his signings this summer. He will not want to jepardise the "legacy" he has at Arsenal. Lets not forget what he has done for the club? Yes we haven't won anything for 6yrs but lets be honest. We don't really know how much his hands have been tied financially. Face it, we're not City, United or Chelsea. We can't spend £40m on one player. We would be four players and turn them into £30m players. At the end of the day, Wenger will NEVER be sacked as a mark of respect for what hes acheived with club. If we win nothing this season then he will walk away. The board will not sack him. He is our most successful manager in the clubs history and deserves to walk away.}

Think we def need to sign another CB. TV is class, Kosh will get better but Johan is too injury prone. Lets pull out the stops and get Cahill. With these 3 CBs we could go for. Need another LB and Gibbs is too injury prone, so lets go get Enrique at Newcastle. He is young, good defender and has EPL experience

Paul B

Lol THANK GOD IT AINT YOUR DECISION Gibbs is fine we need an experienced 30+ player to fill the cover role and CB it dont matter how tall you are you just need to be solid and commanding remember dennis wise (MF) and Paul Davies (MF) or Irwin (DF) height? no. Jags or Dann is the choice we want they are the best defenders on the market and AW knows it.

North Bank Elite

Agreed i think alex would be a great signing , and let chelsea have cahill? cant see it tho

24 Jul 2011 15:41:59
Edd022 Is There Any Concrete Interest In Carzola?

{Ed022's Note - At the moment there is only speculation that appeared in The Sun and The Mail over the weekend which is why the name is suddenly appearing.}