Arsenal Rumours Archive July 25 2013

25 Jul 2013 22:40:24
i have been told, that Manchester United will delay with the 3rd bid for cesc.

They are waiting for Arsenal to pursue suarez, and then will put a bid in for cesc which is likely to be accepted, leaving arsenal, unable to sign cesc.

hence granting them a clear move.

currently, Manchester United feel encouraged that cesc will join them, however they are extremely worried about wengers silence on the matter, besides the statement he said some time ago.

i just hope the new barca manager, comes out, says cesc is not for sale. end that debate, and allow us to progress aswell.

not sure if we will raise suarez bid.
not sure about bernanrd or fellaini or rami.

long TW indeed {Ed027's Note - 'unable to sign Cesc' we can sign both, if Cesc becomes available watch Wenger run to Barca and pick him up himself,

If MU get a bid accepted Arsenal will snap him up for 25m, fact and their is no doubt about it,

Funny u should say not able to afford it because the reason fellaini hasn't been signed up is because Cesc's situation is 100% resolved yet, and would rather wait for Cesc. they could afford Fellaini Cesc and Suarez but AW doesn't think he needs 2 midfielders.

Forget the so called 70 mil- arsenal have the money ++ they really want a player the money is there, don't you worry about that.

In fact, IF this is true (I doubt it tbh), it would be funny if they think arsenal are spent out, little do they know about our finances.

Arsenal always take 1 step forward and two steps back.

If Fabregas becomes available and Arsenal don't secure him AT ANY COST then it will be two steps backwards again

Fabregas > any current member of our squad

Even when we had Fabregas, Nasri and RVP we needed to strengthen our squad. If we get Fabregas back, we still need Suarez/Rooney, plus we need to strengthen further.

If Fabregas goes to United then nothing that Wenger/Ivan does will make up for that, even spending 50m on Suarez

Why would arsenal be unable to sign him?

We're in negotiations with Ginter
Bernard well its us or Porto
SUAREZ his camp are adamant Liverpool have backtracked on their word and a written contract releasing Suarez for 40m if they fail to make CL which they did.

Suarez will force a move and it should go through but it will take time. Lawyers and BPL board will assist in the out comings of this transfer.

I hope this is true.

i mean I hope moyes is stupid enough to think we can't afford him. even after paying 50m out on suare'

26 Jul 2013 00:29:21
not sure if this is true, but its trending on twitter : fabregas officials held meeting with barcelona officials and asked them to accept man u offer.

could be judas no2

26 Jul 2013 00:30:18
ive been told this. I have no idea, about it. been trawling through twitter and a few people saying the same, could be from the mail and sly update too.

i just found it believable, as wenger has said nothing about cesc. he did make a statement awhile back, but don't you find it strange that united, keep going higher and higher?

and I know we have the buyback clause, but if we spend 50mill of suarez ( not that we will just saying)

will we then have another 25 just for a position we have plenty of cover in? when we need to cover cb, cdm and gk?

i really don't want cesc at united. I hope the update I got is wrong. and I am totally 110% wrong.

for now ill still keep the faith that cesc will stick it out, and possibly just waste their time.

If he is pleading for Barcelona to accept the bid, maybe he's trying to force a move back to arsenal, hoping that they'll pay the 25mil.

NE Gooner

26 Jul 2013 04:59:37
Ed that's one of the best replies I've seen on here all year!

Rubbish barca ain't even paid arsenal for fab yet and if arsenal need emergency cash you don't need to worry just look who is backing us.

Agree with Ed

Strange for an ed to express an opinion {Ed027's Note - what is that suppose to mean?

25 Jul 2013 22:22:26
Joel Campbell going out on loan to Olypiakos Pir�us

25 Jul 2013 18:04:13
{Ed027's Note - New polls have been made!
1. Do you like Arsenal's new away kit?
2. What formation do you think Arsenal should line up in next season?
Vote now!}

If we get Chompers Mcgee, we should go back to our formation which we had when we had Bergy and Henry, which I believe was 4-4-2. or 4-4-1-1

Arsenal will line up 433
Sczezny

Sagna
Monreal
Kos
Mert (sorry Thomas your better as an individual but there a better partnership)

Wlshere
Cazorla
Artera / G Barry
Podolski
Walcott

Giroud / Cisse
(but Giroud will start after his preseason)

Sorry that does include our Major signings i'm not in the know!

Not bad the away kit liked the mocked puma one though think we should line up.
4-1-4-1 one holding midfielder and let em have it
Szczesny
Micha Richards (hopefull I know)
Kos
Mert
Gibbs
Tv (holding midfielder)
Jack
Santi
Walcott
Pod
Suarez ( you never know)

At the moment 4 4 2

Szczeny

Sagna
Pers
Koscienly
Gibbs

Walcott
Aeteta
Wiltshire
Poldski

Cazala
Giroud

2nd Unit 4 3 3
Faberski

Jenkinson
Miguel
Vermaleen
Monreal

Rosicky
Ramsey
Diaby

The Ox
Sanago
Gnarby/Gervinho

Sammy Nelson the greatest left back {Ed027's Note -

25 Jul 2013 10:30:49
Ed do you have any news regarding Bernard because his club just said he was leaving and so did he pretty much thanks in advance {Ed001's Note - I don't have anything new to add, he is of interest to a number of clubs, it seems he might be Napoli's next target, which is probably not what you want to hear after they got Higuain!}

25 Jul 2013 12:27:56
Napoli's scouting network just follows arsene's around

. but pays the asking price!

Block 5 Gooner

This Napoli rumour is BS.

Why would Bernard 'the new neymar' want to play in Italy let alone Napoli. Higuain suits Italian football but Bernard has so much more to offer. Brasilian attacking players hardly have a good record in Italy lately. (Robinio anyone) and I don't believe Italy would be his first choice and he will certainly have some choices

And brazilians have a good record in england?

I don't think he is arsenal bound

He has 5 offers believed to be Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool, Porto and Shaktar

This is what his agent said.

Well if u look at Oscar as a similar player I'd say yes

25 Jul 2013 02:54:46
Arsene wenger will try to sign Suarez by friday before Real Madrid uses the funds they made from Higuain to buy him. Arsenal may miss out on all their target.

It will take longer than that. Even if he signs that is. Wishful thinking

Just my opion but I don't think madrid want saurez looks like there set there signs on bale {Ed052's Note - They want both}

Madrid can't afford both
30m on Isco 30m on the other DM 85m on Bale = 145m + wages can they really afford another 40-50m on Suarez --- Spain is skint {Ed052's Note - No they cant, that's why I don't see them getting Bale unless Ronaldo goes (or lots and lots of other players go). And Hig should finance a deal for LS}

RM want Bale and cannot afford both. Higuain was not that vital for them Ronaldo is their main goal scorer. They will not buy Bale and Suarez and will not have a mass clear out to fund both. Who else would they sell? {Ed052's Note - There are a few other players. I expect them to offer a player, plus cash for LS}

When has not being able to afford a player ever stopped Real Madrid from buying him? They are bankrolled by the provincial government in the Madrid area and the banks extend easy credit on a revolving basis. They owe so much that the banks are frightened to foreclose and get nothing back so they just roll the loans over for a 'steady interest income stream' off the back of shirt sales, gate and TV money etc.

Their iconic status means they can basically borrow and spend what they want, whenever they want. So much for FPP. Just another 'Sugar Daddy' club but with a regional government instead of an oligarch or Sheik splashing the cash.

CECEGUaW

I think Arsenal are going to look to out-bid Real Madrid at any price and I think it will be massively down to stubbornness because of the Higuian fiasco.

I ain't complaining though!

P. S there's pretty much no chance of it happening by Friday!

There is pretty much no chance of it happening at all.

Sly Sports reporting that Real Madrid have withdrawn interest in Suarez, favouring to now use Alvaro Morata and Jese Rodriguez instead. I think they're going balls to the wall with a bid for Bale and won't be able to afford Suarez. I hope we get him, he'd be lethal at Arsenal.

He'll come to arsenal. His first choice was Madrid but he's happy coming to us to get champions league and play under a manager who has a clue.
Rumour is that Madrid wouldn't offer more than £35m for him anyway.

Paul

Morata and Rodriguez instead of Suarez! Interesting.

I keep seeing reports that the latest bid is along the lines of £35m + £5m add ons.

My question is how does this activate a clause of £40m? I know the total is £40 but the add on's likley includes things like appearances etc so is no way a guaruntee that this will be paid. So they total paid would be less than £40m.

Just for example Messi has a reported 250m release clause, what is to stop a club offering £1m + £249m add ons based on various things that may never happen. I'm sure i'm just missing something so if anyone could explain?

A release clause must be made up of a full transfer fee. E. g. £40m.

An offer of £35m plus add ons of £5m DOES NOT activate the release clause as they are stipulated and based on future events that may or may not occur. E. g. £1m for winning the champions league.

That is why Arsenal offered £40m plus a token £1 in order to activate the clause. However, there is some debate as to what type of clause it is.

A release clause can also be activated by an offer of (for example) £40m that is paid over installments, as the club will still recieve the total amount required.

Hope that helps? {Ed052's Note - A 'speaking clause' is what I've dubbed it!}