Arsenal Rumours Archive February 27 2012

27 feb 2012 20:02:21
ed,im watching the ssn special report and there saying there is a high court ruling in the next couple of weeks about when you buy a player your no longer going to be able to pay in installments that the way things are going you will have to guarantee that you can pay for that player befor deal is done.
there saying this will effect the prices and wages the players will get
dave.w {Ed002's Note - To a certain extent that is already the case. They do not want to see another Portsmouth situation. Typically deals will be completed in the months fter purchase.}

27 Feb 2012 15:35:35
how good was yossi and rosicky yesterday.....old boys done real good!!
up the arse....

27 Feb 2012 15:24:23
1st Step...COMPLETE! YES YES YES!

2nd Step...beat Liverpool (who should be very tired after the Mickey Mouse Cup Final and celebrations lol)... Spuds get chinned by the scum then there's only 4 points in it!

COME ON!

3rd WILL be ours! Then the rebuilding can begin post-season.

StEvE

27 Feb 2012 13:17:31
summer

Giroud-20m
Goetze-32 m
Podolski-10 m(contract about to end)/Honda 12m

What are your thoughts?

We dont need giroud and podolski, podolski for me is the cheaper and better option, Goetze yes, hondo def a no, not good enough in my opinion! we need a left back and a new centre half, also i would sell walcott if possible and try and sign Hazard

Podolski will cost more then giroud and dont think giroud will b as high as 20m. We will only go for both if RVP leaves imo

Podolski will cost less than giroud as his contract is almost up, Hes 26 an a much better player than Giroud, im getting a bit sick of french players aswell, they dont have the best of mentalitys when losing a game, If RVP goes to real, only if they give us Benzema in the opposite direction!! Also if you had Goetze in there....think we have an oppurtunity with Rosicky possilby going back to dortmund to get this boy aswell, Goetze and podolski linking up with RVp, with Ox Chamber , Walcott still there, also i wish we would sell Gervhinio he is not good enough for arsenal full stop

I think Giroud is a good option. Podolski will not want to be on the bench.

Giroud will cost 12 mln which is in our price range. for some reason - I see Podolski going to Italy. I feel like a team like Roma would suit him.

As for Gotze, I still struggle to believe he will move. He is young and has plenty more to do at BVB - a club who are matching his ambitions.

Billybob452

27 Feb 2012 12:51:16
Giroud,sessegnon, hazard, M'Vila these will be our signings they wil cost about 56m, but we will get nearly 40 back in sales. steve Bould to come in as coach to tighten things up at back. Also heard D. Bergkamp coming back as youth coach.

Buddy, hazard will be 30m alone, M'villa 15-20, if you can get Giroud and Sessengnon for 11m, then hats off to you!

Crazy as a coconut. As the last post suggests - Giroud would cost circa £12m, Sessegnon £12m, Hazard £30m, and M'Villa £24m. A total cost of at least £78m!
Hazard is not coming to Arsenal, never was and never will.

Yeh sorry this does seem a bit far fetched. To be fair I only think your wrong about Hazard and your use of the word signings. Perhaps 'targets' would be more apt. I think we could do a lot worse than Sessegnon and if we get M'vila that would be massive. Real sign of intent.

In Arsene I Trust.

27 Feb 2012 12:16:51
Just saw Ivan's interview...
At the start he said everything i wanted to hear, then towards the end he started going back to the old Ivan, the stingy Ivan.

He's what i call a showbag (full of s**t).

He may say they wan't success, but at the end of the day, they want money. They want to continue Wengers way of spending little and making big, taking risks on unknown players.

That is a good philosophy, but you also need to invest a bit more if you want to push for titles, we don't need 30 + mil signings, just a few 10-20 mil quality players and we would be good to go.

If we included players in swap deals for Hazard then i think we could get him. Lille are not as big a club as us so our bench/deadwood would be better than some of the players over there. 28 mil plus Diaby and Bendtner should be enough to persuade them. They get two good quality players for their team and a nice sum of 28 mil to go with it. The cash value of that deal would equate to 40 mil plus.
I know its unlikely but we need to find a balance, not man city style, but not stingy Ivan style. Manchester united have a good balance, a few 10-30 mil signings and there done, in and out. We dont need 50 mil unproven kids.

Nick.

I like the idea but will never happen. I'm not saying we can't afford the transfer but it's the clubs refusal to spend big on wages that will prevent marquee signings such as hazard, m'villa, and players of that stature.

Paul - Rochester

27 Feb 2012 07:50:25
Awesome game that was, great comeback!

Let's hope Wenger will make a decent big signing in the summer (For once -_-.. I still have 100% respect for him though)

What are your thoughts on Hazard, Kagawa etc etc? Would Arsenal or Lille/Dortmund really make these deals or are we just being a bit too hopefull here?

Also I think the squad (The whole club) needs more english or british clubs, for a number of reasons. What are your thoughts on that?

The idea of having more brits just is not a must! just like the next england coach should not be chosen just because he is from england! arsenal needs winners and if those winners are brits then well and good!! and they arent many of them out there!

Yeah was a great game. My respect for bale went out the window though!

Hazard is a definate move this summer. As his contracts coming to a end, Lille will want to cash in. Wether he comes to us is a different matter though. Rosicky in last few games I thought could be close to scoring, looks like his confidence is up.

Who to sign though. Left back for sure. Gibbs is doing ok and will get there but need someone more experienced. Also someone to help RVP.
Who though is the question?

Need rid of the deadwood first.

Stub

Hazard seems very unlikely...and if we bought him, he would probably take up most of our transfer budget.
Could get Podolski, Dempsey and Baines for same money it would cost for Hazard

The problem with Brits is that they are well over priced look at the likes of Henderson, Downing or Johnson you would easily have to pay 20m for any of these when you could proberly pick up a cheaper alternative abroad Reus for example 16m werent it ? or Mata world cup winner 26m, stuart Downing 20m dont add up and dont give me all this about premier league experience you could easily argue cabaye is better than henderson and he cost a fraction of the price and is new to this league
dan

Great post Dan. In a general sense you read alot of people on here getting quite worked up about how this or that player would save our team. Not just against the idea that buying british is required, but whilst we're on the theme it seems to me that all the british targets we're 'linked' to have been underwhelming this season. Cahill at chelsea is the best example of this (we'd have paid over £10 million in the summer, for a worse defender than Kos, Verm, Mert. Possibly not much better than Djourou in my opinion), but others are A. Young, P. Jones, J. Barton. Yesterday showed that even a player having a well respected great season like Parker might not have been a savior for Arsenal's midfield (by the way, our mid was the best i've seen them this season, and what a time to bring it all together against Redknapp's over hyped, diving spuds team! so fluid in defence and attack, organised, and great to see so many players getting into the box!). Some players we've had a clamouring to buy are obviously good of course, and would have done a job, or even been great, but are they always worth the money?

Personally I feel the player that is most shouted about, but the least needed is Demba Ba. He's scored some goals for an efficient Newcastle team/we need another striker/therefore he must be brilliant! He couldn't play for us though! We aren't coached to be organised and disciplined like Newcastle or Stoke. Money talks, and these teams rely on getting the maximum out of their resources for as little risk. playing for Arsenal isn't about doing nothing for 89 mins, but scoring one of the couple of chances you get. we've shipped out Arshavin because he'd become this kind of player, and we were so great yesterday because each player had the quality and technique to hold possession, remaining positive and involving the whole team.

it's become debatable why exactly we don't spend money on talent. Mata was a player who would without doubt have been brilliant for us, and i don't think we missed out because he was percieved over priced. the club didn't want to go into the red, and we needed Cesc to be sold to free up funds; i think that was the likely case. obviously i don't blindly think Wenger and the board have got it 100%. There is a point though where getting agitated at this or that player not being bought should be weighed against a more sensible set of criteria. Will he actually improve the team, not just fill a position? and finally Arsenal, for better or worse (i think better), can't afford to buy expensive mistakes and watch them ruin the team, or sit on the bench like Citeh or Chelsea. So, are they really worth the money?

To win the league again will be a massive test for the club in the coming seasons, but that is rightly what we're aiming for. some players will not bring the quality to reach this level, no matter what they've done for other teams in breaking expectations (D. Bent for club, and particularly England, for example). I'm right behind Wenger to make these decisions, despite the poor season we've had. The team we played against spurs is a quality core, and as long as we persuade Van Persie to stay, its a squad that won't be broken up in the near future like all the summers past. A couple of quality signings, the return of Wilshire, and the continued progression of some proper looking youths. I'm excited for the future again!

Ned