Arsenal Rumours Archive May 27 2012

27 May 2012 14:48:33
This could happen:

IN
Given/Kapino
Vertonghen/Sakho
M'Vila
Hazard/Kagawa
Podolski
Remy/Giroud

Instantly making us challengers again.But


This probably will happen:

IN
N'Zonzi
Dempsey
Podolski
Yarmolenko

OUT
Song
RVP


StEvE

What's wrong with yarmolenko joining?

Kapino as our back up goalkeeper. do you know how old he is? he's 17

Song to stay brilliant cmd

If your good enough, your old enough.

People want chamberlain in the starting 11 every week, and hes 18.
Cesc played for arsenal @ 16..
Messi for barca @ 16

A back up goalie at 17? no problem.

Rather ter-stegen @ 19 though...ter stegen is amazing...better than shezza

There is no young promising keeper ever going to join us when we have Szczensy who is what 22 in the summer. We need to sign an experienced keeper to help Szczensy.

Two things:

1. I never said there was anything wrong with Yarmolenko joining!

2. If Kapino thought he was better than Szczesny what would stop him joining? Also I posted in order of preference so Given would be 1st choice between the two.

Not to mention the post was hypothetical!

Highlights that the club always take the cheap way out. There is NO way to believe otherwise! Given our history, no one can dispute that!

StEvE

Am I the only one not bothered by losing Song? Fancies himself a bit too much for my liking, loses possession and doesn't 'hold' enough for a holding mid. If we get a big offer, i'd snap their hands off

Lol @ us being linked with good names. m'vila, giroud etc.. you know we going to end up with cheap alternatives like n'zonzi and so on. fair enough we got podol but thats it for any form of big name!

27 May 2012 14:05:55
Rumours that Alex Song is having talks with Inter/Milan? Making room for M'Villa coming in. Thoughts?

English Gooner

I don't think the rumours are true

Would be happy if it happened. Take walcott with him. M'vila and hoilett/anyone is much better

Hopefully

Making room? What like in the dressing room? Or his car parking space?
BR

Hopefully not. at the moment song is basically irreplaceable as coquelin hasn't been up to cope with the intensity of the center midfield. i don't want to rely on a 21-year-old player from french league too much. there's plenty of room for both m'vila and song in the squad.

iceman

Hope so. If Song's a holding midfielder I'm a particle physicist. Gives the ball away far too easily and prone to hacking down opponents on the edge of our box.

Unlikely song will give up cl football to move to inter.

Songo won't leave, he'll play CM/CDM next season.

Also.. Inter don't have the money for him, and they don't have UCL, IF he did leave, why would he go there.

Ben X.

Inter Are Rich It's Milan That Have No Dosh And He Obviously What higher wages I Don't Rate Him... Sell Song!!

Song is on his bike,that,s why our certain frugal manager is prepared to stump up 27 mill on m,vila.song ,s destination madrid though

Nevervheard so much nonsense ...has it ever occurred to some that with the loss of fabregas's the creativity has had go be shared between rosicky/Ramsey, arteta and song? which may go some go explain why he pushes further up and why arteta drops deeper?
Sure he loses focus at times when trying to doctor much but he has been one of our most versatile players and who by the way (for some of you short sighted and sufferers of short memory) played centre half when we had injuries in the back of four durning our champions leave qualifiers. So lets not all be so quick to throw all for players that you have not yet seen play in the PL....I like mvil a but let's not throw everyone out
Have some patience and foresight to realise that strength in depth for a squad is what makes you a challenger for the titles...there's room for mvil a and song
Ppl can be very forgetful and ungrateful

ES

I'd rather keep Song. I laugh at all these people saying Song is a bad holding midfielder. He doesn't play that position. Watch a game. He is clearly told to push on a bit hence his assists this year. Arsenal fans are like kids and we're never happy no matter what we have. If Song played for a random club say Valencia there would be fans on here saying we need this boy Alex Song he is brilliant.

Song was missed badly when he was injured and set up many goals for Arsenal, a very under rated and under valued player.
With Diaby and Jack to come back the signing of M'villa would give a good balance to the midfield and a good element of strength in depth compared to most teams, Even if Ramsey and Denilson were sold on

What some of you forget is that whilst Song has been great for assists, he's probably conceded that much possession followed by his inability to recover that we've probably conceded as many goals in the aftermath. Also what you're forgetting is that you want to keep a guy who is a real defensive liability because he's doing the job of 2 other midfielders instead - well how's about we sort this team out, bring in an attacking mid to do the assisting and someone who defends better than Song to do the defending? Then if Song's in the middle and we have real quality in depth, that's cool. However there are better CMs so if M'Vila did come and we kept Song it would probably be until he submits a TF request....isn't it ironic that one of our most valuable players is also one of our biggest headaches!

He is not our biggest headache nor the player who loses the ball most.
Incidentally he is not just a Cdm he also plays as a deep lying playmaker and because of that he is bound to lose the ball more than most...however he does not get that balance right all the time...the biggest headaches are the back four's defines strategy...individually they Are great defenders,collectively they can sometimes lose focus (vermaelen ESP) due to our high line...the other big headache is ramsey's lack of composure and lag on the ball but that will improve with time

es

Can not believe people want rid of song?! ok he has been caught out going forward, but how many assits has he provided for RVP alone last term? there is plenty of space for him and mi'vila! also why do people want rid of theo? he was are secong highest goal scorer and had assists.. ok, consistency needs to pick up but he is'nt being played in his favoured natural role as a striker. henry was'nt very good on the wing.. look how that turned out! if we let theo and song go, i think RVP would want to be on his way out aswell!

Unfortunally i think that is true!!! m'villa is knowhere near as good as song!! when song leaves then you will realise how good he is

27 May 2012 11:54:03
I have this on good authority ,Arsenal trying to offload theo Walcott to sign Affallay from Barcelona as he wants to leave and Barca want some cash.

Cannot see this move happening

'good authority'

yes m8, of course you do.

Afellay is too injury prone, can't see this happening

Chriscamo

Barca need cash. Do they not still owe us money from the Henry and Hleb deals. probably on Fabregas too. They should be giving us players to that value if that is still the case. Ed's can you clarify? {Ed002's Note - I don't know if there is anything owed on Fabregas but it does not simply work by taking players in exchange. If Arsenal wanted a particular player they could trade value against debt of course, that would suit Arsenal but perhaps not Barcelona.}

27 May 2012 10:19:25
Anyone know if we're looking into victor Moses as he is available for about 10 mil and has huge potiential.

10 million is a bit steap for a player thar has a good game in every 7 or 8

Not an arsenal fan congrats on third place victor moses lacks the sight to deliver the killer passes. his head goes down he likes to run with the ball more than anything he runs himself into trouble. when a simple pass would have opened the defence up

No we ain't. qpr and liverpool are in trested though

I have no doubts that if we'd had Moses on the right and Hoilett on the left with RVP in the middle, our campaign would have been much better. Some people don't rate Moses, presumably because he plays for Wigan. I rate him, he's got EPL experience and he plays well against anyone, as does Hoilett. To let these 2 go when we've invested so much money in worse players over the years would be depressing. And I say this with the doubt that we'd splash 20m on a top class winger...to let these cheapies go would be a crying shame. If Bayern want Hoilett, he's good enough for us.

He is good, but Dembele is alot lot better.

'If Bayern want Hoilett, he's good enough for us.'

^ Spot on..but that's a big IF.

cheers

27 May 2012 09:23:19
Ed has arsenal placed a bid for Giroud and sakho? {Ed002's Note - I do not think any bids have been placed by Arsenal at this time.}

Ed is spot on. i doubt arsenal will sign or sell anyone untill the euros are over

What about the holtby bid that is apprently agreed

Its nonsense. Every rumour around at the moment is nonsense.

Wait till the euros are over and lets see if Wenger is still awake.

27 May 2012 07:31:33
Hello gooners! I wont take much of your time and just came here to give a quick update... All the rumors circulating that mvila camp is now talking to other suitors, is completely b****cks.. And it would be a relief for all fellow gooners to know that no one is in line, not even mancity.. This is the situation it stands as of now. So dont believe what media comes out with or which journo puts a story forward.. Its only us who are talking to him and only the hiccups need to be resolved. For those who are lost, they can check my previous post. I will again stress it out, Kagawa/mvila are nearly arsenal players if we dont balls it up(which is not impossible)... One more thing I stated something about rosicky's contract(that how he signed it back in january and no one was given any hint about it).. Well from my understanding, rvp's extension will depend on the quality brought in, means I am advocating the stance that he is staying.. What length of contract he signs will depend on the players signed. One of the reasons for his media blackout could be a ploy from arsenal to make everyone think into that he is leaving. So when we will approach a club with the proposal of replacing or rebuilding our team, we will get players on much affordable scale rather than suggesting them that we are interested in your player to keep our captain happy and show him ambition. Our deals being kept in secrecy is another move so that the rest of the deals do not get affected. And before I go, joe allen bid was not a rumour but sadly it was dismissed. We did bid for him but not 3 mill it was 5 mill. Thank you. Hate it or like it but that's how things stand at the moment.

HAMS

I really want to believe you but i cant!

Can anyone confirm? Sounds reasonable, but stil... If we approach a club when they're thinking we're going to Sell RVP, then they know we have the money and then they can ask for a lot.

Exactly my point mate. But like I said the proposal I put forward can be wrong too.. Anyone who says in a definite tone is just fabricating everything.. There is no one outside Dick Law, AW, Kos Vees, Gazidis, Rvp and DD(though he wasnt present at the meeting) who knows the truth.. We can only build our understanding from other moves that we are trying to weave.. And remember, Arsenal are trying its best to deviate the focus and put a lid, so dont believe everything u read or hear in pres and media.
HAMS

Sorry I misinterpreted your point.. Everyone knows RvP wants ambition right? Selling clubs will hike player prices up knowing we're buying to appease. However it makes no difference to selling team if they think we're looking to buy to "replace" or "rebuild" just my opinion though. They know we can jog onto another target, he is not a must. Whereas when you approach with the mindset of showing ambition to your captain its different. Point was if I thought you wanted my player to make your star happy I'd charge you double. Ya know, desperation is more dangerous than need.. Anyways like I said it could be a ploy, nothing is definitive here except the understanding which I am developing that ambition will only determine rvp's contract length. Fingers crossed.

And you know this because
1. You're a psychic?
2. You're the Agent involved in all these deals?
3. You're sleeping with RVP's wife?
4. You're seeping with Wenger?
5.You're a liar who craves attention?

How do we know we can trust HAMS?

People I am not asking you to trust me on rvp saga. I am stressing it myself that apart from Law, AW, Ivan,Kees Vos and obv DD no one knows it... As for that "understanding" part I am basing it on the other happenings at the club, like I said you can only judge now from a different angle....

HAMS

Don't really care if poster is itk or not, simply he writes in the queens english which is good enough for me and that his words are well thought through giving better basis than the usual rabble we see written

Umm....if other clubs were made to believe that RVP was leaving, wouldn't they hold Arsenal to ransom knowing that they have to spend to replace RVP (not to mention a potential windfall from his sale). Your explanation doesn't seem logical

Is HAMS the DialSquare bloke on twitter?

That's only an explanation and a proposed theory as I mentioned.. However I have elaborated it in one of the above comments. Desperation>>>>Need

HAMS

To a guy who thinks I am the DialSquare bloke, no I am not... And I can see what made you think so... Sometimes the ideas do converge but to be very honest and you can see it for yourself from my previous posts, there are shades which do not match. I could have avoided the question if I was looking to big myself up, the rest is for you to decide. As far as the info is concerned, I will always mention if there is palgiarism involved(RedArmy49) check my most recent post. So credit where it is due there is no one out there who will know each and everything, sometimes you pass on the info and relay it to others but its always better to credit the original source.. Authentic and reliable info should be communicated, that's what the purpose should be rather than fabricating and creating speculations.

HAMS