Arsenal Rumours Archive August 30 2013

 

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30 Aug 2013 19:33:18
tv says Kondogbia has signed for monaco on 5 year deal

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Youre joking? you mean we have missed out on another player?
I just can't believe it, i'm shocked.
oh well, as arsene would say "c'est le vie" (sarcasm)

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Another 17 million saved, Flamini is more intelligent, disciplined and mobile which in the Premiership is far more valuable than sheer power.

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Unbelievable Jeff

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30 Aug 2013 19:10:46
Arsenal negotiating with Corinthians for the sale of former Milan striker, Alexandre Pato who returned to Brazil in Jan this year. A bid of bid of £10m with £5m in add-ons including appearances offered.

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That would be nice!

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Pls god no!

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He was home sick in Italy, why would he move to England which hasn't been rough to South Americans to settle down.

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30 Aug 2013 19:04:29
Sevilla have confirmed the signing of kondogbia from sevilla on a 5year contract. Another target missed. Its getting quite boring now

{Ed022's Note - Sevilla have confirmed the signing of Kondogbia from Sevilla. Well, they must have got a good deal from themselves...}

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30 Aug 2013 19:00:14
Arsenal have submitted a £13m offer Daniel De.Rossi of Roma which has been accepted, but player wants to remain in Italy.

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I've heard this also from a member of Roma supporters club, but the fee believed to be 18 million Euros. Also told an enquiry has been made for Juves Chellini, don't think myself he would be available.

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The only thing that made me think we would sign anyone else is the FACT that Wenger stated he was confident of signings because the players wanted to sign for Arsenal, Cabaye (not happening), we signed Flamini instead. FACT Both players wanted to sign for Arsenal. I am not sure anyone else will sign

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That's one hell of a commute then

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30 Aug 2013 17:46:33
Rumour Arsenal bid £2m for Soloman Kalou

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2million? lol

{Ed022's Note - He's not worth 2 quid...}

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I would drive my car into the emirates to stop this transfer, what on earth is going on!

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30 Aug 2013 18:17:46
Arsenal are waiting until deadline day to make a bid for Gareth"too slow" Barry, that's only if they fail to get Yohan Kebab.
They will also make deadline day bids for Michu and Sebastian Giovinco if they fail with bids for Karim Benzema and Angel Di Maria.

The Chinese whispers doing rounds is that they have submitted a formal bid for Ilkay Gundogan.

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Not a chance

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After Torres goal tonight I believe under AW we could have a bargain if chelski would sell him to us.

{Ed022's Note - After his goal tonight and him starting, do they even want to sell?!}

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He won't be sold after tonights display

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30 Aug 2013 18:16:08
Rumors coming in that Madrid have finally bid for Suarez as the registration for Sunday's derby had passed the domino effect may be about to take place!

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30 Aug 2013 17:38:43
Finally some good news, Arsenal in talks with Crystal Palace for the sale of Bendtner, reliable source telling me that Crystal Palace want around £5 million compensation.

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30 Aug 2013 18:20:31
Roll up billy nice one mate

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Hahh

Spot on!

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They want 5mil to take him? Fair deal.

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30 Aug 2013 16:44:21
Arsenal to sign Rooney for GBP27m on monday.

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Source?

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Dream on

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I would do cartwheels if true but sadly I doubt it very much. Source?

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Malaga did you move

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Seriously, we need to stop doing this to each other, it's not healthy.

We. Will. Sign. No. One. Of. Any. Status. Under. Wenger.

I know it. You know it. Everything else is toss.

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Leaving Moyes short on his first CL? I doubt it. I think Torres.

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Has Malaga moved?

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Liveinhope you are spot mate, it's a very poor b movie!

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30 Aug 2013 16:43:33
Reports from Spain that Bale transfer will be announced tonight. so that gives Arsene at least 3 days to sign a freaking player.

we need a LW/ Striker. that's all i'm asking 1 bloody player.

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Not a cat in hells chance, Levy will wait until Monday to give AW no chance of recruiting a RM player

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I can't wait for even this last excuse to be stripped away to see what happens.

Obviously Real Madrid are the only team in the world with any players. No other team has any players that may improve our team at al. None.

Really? We believe they are the only team with players better then what we collectively have?

B*llocks for the highest order.

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Won't happen tonight, gives too much time for the real madrid fire-sale for Levy's liking

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Well its 09:37 Saturday morning looks like Bales still st Tottenham what a blinder Levy is playing sell at the last moment even if Madrid decide to sell before hand Arsenal will still have to pay over the odds for players you have got to ask yourselfs why leave it so late maybe time for a new manager.

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30 Aug 2013 16:06:35
We are getting Khedira from real I'm far from impressed

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And you have not been impressed by sanogo and flamini?

(Flips table and walks away with disgust)

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Khedira is a beast of a midfielder, would be much needed steel in our midfield

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Big defensive midfielder, 26 year old (so probably shaves unlike what will be on the bench this Sunday for Arsenal), German International, has won at many levels, currently with Real Madrid, what's not to like?

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Indeed khedira is a beast


(kicks table after lakerville flips it in disgust)

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Hope this is true. Class player

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(comes back with a massive cannon and blows the table up. I don't care who you are. I don't want no Chicken. i'm a gooner. I eat LEAD)

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Real want 40mill for him and he's German either guess work or this guy on twitter or whatever it was is spot on.

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It seems casmeiro has been playing himself into rotation over khedira.

I would say close to 20million and real will make a deal.

Modric, casmeiro & Illarramendi currently covering the deep lying position with Xabi Alonso back after christmas.

Ozil and Isco to cover the CAM/Wing

with Bale and Ronaldo on the wing with jese and morata as cover.

and not to forget benzema with morata and ronaldo as cover.


Di maria, Khedira, Kaka are the likely Exits.
Im wondering if Manchester United are going to make their deals for Ander Herrera and Fellani or all of a sudden jump into the Khedira and Kaka situation.

twitchy end

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Khedira? - IMHO that's amazing! He's on my top 10 list of the quality and type of player we need. He's the player that makes Ozil look like he's good -:) Wasn't even hoping for such a good fit.

I'm not happy with all the fumbling this window, but that signing would be a relief.

Still want Schweinstieger though -:) And Muller -:)

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He was recommended by podolski to wenger earlier in the window

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He is coming with kaka, 1 yr loan (spits on already flipped and kicked table)

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He'd be good but not worth the 40m '101' was suggesting. I wouldn't pay over about 18/19m as anymore than that and we should just get Bender

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News flash:

No he's not. Not for £40million he's not.

Can I have Eds job whilst he's on holiday, I've got as much chance of getting it as we have of signing a £40million international from Real in his prime.

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I automatically discounted the 40 million. No-one knows the true numbers and that just wasn't believable. Quality player at the 20 million mark approx and would be good business; better fit than a lot of the rumours flying around.

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30 Aug 2013 13:15:44
arsenal are going all out to sign bastian schweinstiger. {Ed044's Note - I would not have your shirt made up just yet.}

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The thought of Bastian wearing an Arsenal Shirt, in real life (as opposed to FIFA). Brings a tear to my eye.

I would eat my mattress if that happened. Luckily for me, I can't see it happening.



Copthorne Gooner

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Well apparently we've bid 40m for a German.but why the hell would he leave bayern for us? Don't add up

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So Schweni, who is 29 years old, played for Bayern all his life, and who is also injured at the moment, will play for Arsenal, without a prayer of winning the champions league this year?

i know crack is good. but this good? JESUS

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Ok you got me but with all this talk of a 40m german I don't see anyone other than him and ozil who could command 40m. gotze and hazard both went for around 32m so I don't see how reus and draxler could go for 40.

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I would not have a shirt made up full stop. schweinsteiger at £1 per letter? behave lol

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He's injured, so he must be destined for the Emirates!

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I would love this to be true

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Great player! Won't happen. Doubt he'd want to leave Munich for anybody let alone us

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30 Aug 2013 12:57:35
Fabio Quagliarella from Juventus is set to sign for us. Not sure when exactly but before the transfer window shuts.

Personally, not a great buy.

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Good news if true. A proper wenger signing, has a couple of good years left in his career and wouldn't throw a strop if left on the bench.

However, I doubt this deal given that Matri has been sold to Milan. This would leave them with just Tevez and Llorente .

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There is also Vucinic so they have 3 strikers . Vucinic, Tevez Llorente .

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This would be a great signing - purely for the fun factor of Paul Merson trying to say his name on Soccer Saturday - I have given up on football reasons.

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Can't work out why we would be happy buying players who can't get in there teams ain't exactly world class players

{Ed022's Note - Higuain wasn't getting regularly football for Real Madrid and we'd have snapped him up but that's another can of worms altogether...}

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Giovinco would be a better signing if we're raiding Juve

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30 Aug 2013 12:09:02
Atsu having medical at Chelsea, so who's leaving now willian and atsu have joined?

{Ed022's Note - The deal is a five year contract but Atsu will be loaned straight out to Chelsea's feeder club Vitesse Arnhem for a season long loan...}

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30 Aug 2013 12:09:02
I watched on Punto Pelota tv program in Spain that since the beginning of the transfer window Arsenal have enquired about 12 Real Madrid players including Higuain but have not bid for any.
An agent friend of mine has also told me about this "moneyball" system and that Arsenal have missed out on many players due to this and Wenger's stubborness.

Really don't know what say after the CL draw we really need to do something and I only hope Sunday and Monday will be Wenger's redemption.

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Wenger is not a negotiator and should just elect the players that he would like us to go for and let others see the deal through! that's what is so ****ed up about the whole situation at the emirates. Until this changes nothing else will, and people will continue to write complete bolloxs on here :)

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30 Aug 2013 11:34:58
Expect a bid to made for Bryan Ruiz

{Ed022's Note - Why the hell would we bother buying him? We have apparently got Nicklas "World's Greatest Striker But No-one Wants To Buy Me!" Bendtner. Enough said...}

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30 Aug 2013 10:50:35
just heard david bentley is available on a free. come on wenger don't let that one get away mate. I thought we are building a complete team of freebies?

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William Gallas is also available. Come on - we want defensive cover don't we?

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Good shout unbelievable belief

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30 Aug 2013 10:38:27
Bendtner is staying

{Ed022's Note - I have heard this today and this is actually the straw that breaks my back. No more mister nice Ed022. I am furious!!}

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At least we've still got the worlds greatest forward.

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Wengarism will be estatic.

{Ed022's Note - Bendtner is probably one of the ONLY players Malaga Gooner hasn't mentioned this summer so it makes sense that it comes true. As for Wengerism... meh!}

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Ed chill mate, don't forget "in arsene we trust". (yeah right)

{Ed022's Note - I am one of the most optimistic people I know, and I know a lot of people! However, I have woken up on the wrong side of the bed (I was sleeping underneath the bed) and it hasn't put me in a good mood. No sight of a signing merely adds to my grey cloud...}

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Welcome to the club. wtf is he thinking, this is a career ending move by Wenger.

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This is absolutely pathetic. I think that all fans are furious about this - it is a joke, just like out club!

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Ed, you can sum it up in 4 words mate. being an arsenal supporter

{Ed022's Note - I prefer the Balotelli-esque "Why always us?!" I swear NO OTHER football clubs fans SUFFER in a transfer window as much as Arsenal fans and I really don't know why?!}

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I hear you ed and totally agree. its a roller coaster ride being a gooner. the problem is at this moment in time all of us want to "throw up over the side"

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A bit of reality people - we've tried to sell him and he won't lower his wage demands. the world's greatest and Park are the only 2 players we've tried and failed to ship out. So on that front, we've had a successful transfer window. What AW was saying it is it unlikely he'll be sold now. But I don't EVER want to see Bendtner on the bench, let alone playing for our club again.

I still want to remain optimistic about transfers IN to the club - but I'm beginning to wane.

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The fact is, Wenger has shipped out over 20 "deadwood" players, yet he brought most of them to the club - he may have initially been able to spot a future star, but clearly he has now lost it! What happens now is anybody's guess but the thought of Bendtner back in an Arsenal shirt is just making us a laughing stock.

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This one is not really Wenger's fault, Bendtner is being a bit of a person and is quite hard to shift.

{Ed022's Note - Hold on a minute, who signed him? Who sanctioned his ridiculous £52,000 per week wages a couple of years ago even though he didn't look anywhere near good enough for the first team? The same wages that are breaking down every set of negotiations with any club interested in NB. Answer to all three? Wenger!}

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Bendtner is certainly not fit at the moment and he has issues to deal with. But if he finally gets his mind right and concentrate on his football career, I am sure he can be a massive player. I aggree he is not likely to be in the starting eleven, but still he is a good player - quite similar to Giroud. Also I can't understand why it has to be such a bad thing, that he once said he thought he was potentially one of the best forwards in the World. He clearly isn't that, but I would rather have a player who believes in himself than one who don't dare shoot being afraid to fail.

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30 Aug 2013 10:34:15
Best news yet, apparently we are going to keep the self-styled "best striker in the world" Bendtner. AW says that there is little chance that he will move on now so we will use him in the team. So no Suarez, no Higuain, no Benzema, but just Thick Nick, Exciting isn't it!

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30 Aug 2013 09:49:36
new improved bid for lars bender has been lodged.

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30 Aug 2013 10:26:40
Maybe he will fly in on one of those private jets?

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U never give up, from 2 chartered flights to Bender

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Malaga, is he in transit?

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Wrong again. We've actually put a bid in for gender bender. But it's quite a long process and the signing won't officially go through until the January 2015.

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Arsenal is a business now, just think about money! Not commercially viable to buy him!
Hardly going to sell many shirts is he?! Won't happen!

{Ed022's Note - ...and Flamini will sell shirts clearly...}

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What is it £19.76 plus a mini-mars bar?

what a joke!!!!!!!

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30 Aug 2013 09:28:28
ed022 I am hearing loads of things so if you don't mind I am going to post what I am hearing not what is made up.

im hearing we have bid for alexis sanchez and barcelona want to sell

{Ed022's Note - When you say you are hearing loads of things, I am going to say that they are the voices in your head...}

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Nice one Ed

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Substitute 'hearing' for 'making up'!

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Ed022,

I think you got that spot on!

Malaga,

Do you only start to hear these things when the drinking starts?

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Ed022, you are being very sarcastic of late. nice to see the transfer window is getting to you like the rest of us lol

{Ed022's Note - I am always pretty sarcastic but today I am in no mood as I have been informed Nicklas "World's Greatest Striker But No-one Will Buy Me" Bendtner is staying and will be part of the first team squad. I have just about had enough of all this BS if im honest, so yeah, it effects me too!!}

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I'm amazed you still let these bs posts through, but I suppose it does make for good reading

{Ed022's Note - They create a talking point! Oh and I am desperately praying that one of the 100s of names Malaga has put out there will come true...}

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30 Aug 2013 07:28:28
Hello all,

News has emerged that Torres is being made available by Chelski, IMO we should go for him, obviously he's not the player he was but he is world class and he seems like our only option. Thanks

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He can't be both not the player he was and world class?

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Can speaking stop calling above average players world class. World class is RVP, Ronaldo, Messi etc. I wouldn't even call Rooney world class. For the record I think our team has 0 world class players.

Spuds are claiming they've signed 6 world class players this transfer window. No they haven't - they've signed 6 UEFA cup players.

{Ed022's Note - Santi Cazorla would walk into Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich etc... Therefore, I deem him World Class...}

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Cazorla wouldn't walk anywhere near Real Madrid, damn he hardly walks into Spain.

World class is used too loosely now a days.

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I admit Santi is close but we wouldn't walk into any of those teams. He would certainly get games for them. World class should mean a certain starter for pretty much any team (including international teams, possibly apart from Spain if they are a midfielder).

World class for me: Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Ramos, Thiago Silva, Lahm, Cesc, RVP, Alonso, Alba, Schweinsteger, Neuer, Falcao, Vidic, Pirlo, Alves, plus a few more.

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@sloth No bale? LMAO. You're right, he isn't.

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30 Aug 2013 10:51:48
"World class for me: Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Ramos, Thiago Silva, Lahm, Cesc, RVP, Alonso, Alba, Schweinsteger, Neuer, Falcao, Vidic, Pirlo, Alves, plus a few more."

If world class includes all these and more, they would by definition not be 'certain starters' in any team would they.

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Haven't you heard the good news? We don't need torres we've got NB52!

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Urban Coeur - Duh! any real team. There can be more than 11 world class players. All of those players would be pretty much certain starters for any team bar Barca and Spain. that's my point.

Another potential definition (which would probably produce the same result) would be any player that would get into the either the world XXII (i.e best 22 players with 2 LBs, 2RBs, 4CBs, 2 GKs etc. )

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I think you missed the point and then reiterate the same thing. To suggest that 'world class' only applies to the worlds best 22 or even 30 players is absurd.

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I really don't think suggesting that only the worlds best 20-30 players can be classed as world class is absurd. Its far more absurd to suggest Torres is a world class player.

At the same time I'm not going to argue with anyone if they think Bale, Rooney, Cazorla, David Silva, Mata are world class. I'd say they are probably top 30 in the world so borderline.

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If rvp is world class then what happens in 5 years time if there is 50 players playing at a better level than he is now. surely then there would be 50 world class players. limiting it is short sighted. it depends on what standard there is at any giving time to judge how many world class players there is.

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I'm not saying there is a hard limit and yes standards do change slowly, but its hardly short sighted to say that to be considered one of the top players in the world (i.e world class) you have to be in the top 20-30 players. Top 50 odd is fine too. But please people need to stop saying someone is world class when they wouldn't make a top 100. Torres for example is probably not even in the top 20 strikers.

If my very rough guide for how I judge someone being world class is so crazy - please someone suggest better. Perhaps they play somewhere in the world,
? they know where the world is? They can spell "world class"? (that might catch some players out)

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30 Aug 2013 03:01:23
Shay given will sign on the final day of transfer window. I know this as a fact, gossip will flare up over the next few days

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30 Aug 2013 07:20:09
I am waiting, waiting and waiting, keep checking the internet for any kind of good news regarding transfers for the last 3 months, my heart is hoping for something, anything while my head says there is no chance we will only have Sanogo and Flamini signed up!

The only positive thing is it will all be over in the next 4 days, till it all starts again in January!

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Given is heading for Liverpool as their No. 2. I think it's affecting us all this bloody transfer window, we are desperate for anyone!

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30 Aug 2013 01:13:36
I take it there's been no interest in cardozo, ed? Not exactly the world class striker we was looking at, but he bangs them in for fun, albiet in a less competitive league than the bpl. Cheap and has a great record in europe as of late too. {Ed001's Note - there has been interest from Cardiff in the Prem, but not from Arsenal.}

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30 Aug 2013 00:34:02
we have put in an offer of £8.5m for st etiennes josuha guilavogui. decent defensive mid who can also play centre half.

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30 Aug 2013 00:17:08
Ed is there any interest from Arsenal for Igor Akinfeev of CSKA Moskva? {Ed001's Note - there was a few years ago, I believe it was dropped though. I will resist the temptation to suggest it was in Szczesny's hands at the time though!}

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29 Aug 2013 23:59:09
this is not a rumour about who Arsenal may or may not by, but a truth about transfer policy as relayed by a French director of football who was at London Colney last week.

AW has his list of targets and there is a kitty but the kitty is effectively controlled by Gazidis who relies on input from a team of statisticians. Last year Arsenal (the company) purchased a business that provided statistical info to certain football clubs, Arsenal brought the company/ team in house and are using the team to quantify the value of players-absolute and relative- and look for value a la Moneyball in the US.

Each player's performance is rated relative to peer group / league / country etc and the statisticians come up with a relative value. Throw in wages and length of contract sought and unfortunately the relative value placed on all targets has to date fallen short of the values put on their players by potential selling clubs. which is not rocket science to understand if you are going for key players in any club.

So whilst AW/ Arsenal are bidding his/ their hands are tied by the valuation parameters set by the statisticians, so AW is doing the best but he is stopped from paying the prices demanded by selling clubs.

From the same source, is that there is an amount reserved to purchase Cesc should Barcelona decide to sell and Arsenal will not let Cesc fall into Man Utd's hands.

So whilst I have no clue on targets, everything will go down to the wire and maybe seller clubs will accept lowish (but what Arsenal believe to be realistic) bids and whether part of the kitty is used in having to buy back Cesc as they will not let him go to Man Utd.

so don't blame AW, he has his targets but he does not control what Arsenal are prepared to pay for any player nor the cheque book.

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Very interesting!

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To suggest we are coming up short in valuation is a no-brainer. Every player is overvalued by the club, of course you'll get shot down for offering their worth. These days you're always going to pay over the odds because of the way Chelsea/City/RM, etc. have ruined the game.

It would have made much more sense if you said they were the ones doing identification of targets worth going for, because that's what Moneyball is--the ones who are overlooked because they aren't superstars, but are still great players to buy simply because they come in for cheap after being ignored by everyone else.

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Ultimately the cost of a player is dictated by market forces, supply and demand.

The value a buying club places on a particular player may be less but they also have to include the broader losses that the club may incur if they fail to buy in players of sufficient quality in any cost calculation.

Slipping down the League, failing to progress in cup comps, missing Champions League all cost the club, whether from participation funding, becoming less attractive to TV schedulers and losing out on sponsorships.

Losing the profile of a "Big" team reduces worldwide supporters and the revenue generated from merchandise.

All these things have to be taken into consideration.

Does a team want to compete with the best, win trophys and reap the rewards of success which vastly outweigh the inflated costs of star players or do they want to pat themselves on the back for being shrewd and not paying what an algorithm has calculated is over the odds for any player and slip quietly into insignifance?

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Giberish! A £40,000, 001 bid would not be calculated through statistics.
We may have people trying to decipher the correct value of players but I do not believe anyone would be so stupid as to be this restrictive.
The reality is different players hold a greater or lower value to each and every team.
We are in desperate need of a Striker so to us Suarez could be worth up to £60m, whereas Real Madrid have this position covered so he may only be worth £25m to them.
Statistics can be helpful but not if that is all you look at. If it was then Mertecrapper would be considered one of he greatest defenders ever!

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Tempting for the AKB's to beleive, but the rest of us know its simply not true. Yes no doubt there is statistical analysis, but it does not form the basis for deciding the value of bids. And to suggest Gazidas is with holding the money is the same lie the AKBs have been coming out with for years.

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29 Aug 2013 23:56:23
Hi, just Heard on spanish radio program "Mundo Deportivo" in Catalunya, that following Kaka's comments on his desire to leave Madrid, that he has apparently been talking to AFC as his priobable next destination. Real Madrid are not going to hold the player, and a fee should be worked out fairly quickly. If that does't fall through, he'll then go to Brazilian football. Eds, any truth in this? {Ed001's Note - the issue is not the fee, it is his wages, which are massive. Madrid have been trying to offload him all summer.}

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Do not be surprised to see Kaka in an Arsenal shirt this season. And this is not wishful thinking either No.11 shirt is ready.

Sammy Nelson the greatest left back

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Wherever he's going it's not back to Brasil, their transfer window is closed.

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He can't go to Brazil because the transfer window has shut there. Its going to be a move within Europe. I can see United possibly getting him, they need that CAM style player.

Copthorne Gooner

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