Arsenal Rumours Archive May 05 2012

05 May 2012 19:43:16
Ed if ars do not qualify for champions league.what do you think about the future of wenger and new signings {Ed022's Note - I'd say the quality in signing would decrease certainly, and I'd say it'd affect whether RVP would stay or leave.}

Lol you guys are silly. I dunno why the quality of the signings would change at all, because Arsenal NEVER sign champions league players. The people we buy, often dont even have europa league football.....and seeing as podolski is already signed, I doubt we will see many more coming regardless of final position.

It wouldnt effect r.v.p he just wants to win trophies with the club. he like any player that loves the club would wait till they qualify next season. {Ed022's Note - So not having CL football wouldn't bother RVP?}

Rvp is gone regardless of this years final position.

RVP is gone £250,000 a week at city who would say no {Ed022's Note - I would... I wouldn't want to get 1 million pounds per month, it would make me so very sad.}

In fairness, its not like we miss champs lge on a regular basis. This could be the first time in 15 yrs or whatever. So I'm not that fussed. People seem to forget that van Perdue has only had a good 18 months. The guy was forever injured and getting sent off regularly. I think he owes us for not flogging him when he was doing nothing for the club. I really don't think u can say how u wouldn't blame him for leaving. I would. How can u as a gooner be happy with a guy for jumping ship just when ur manager convinces u your a world class striker. And atsene was right !!

Goonerdazza

Without Champion League football, Arsenal will need Wenger more than ever. If we are not in the CL, the quality of player we can attract is sure to decrease, so Wenger's sharp eye for diamonds in the rough will be all the more necessary.

Jake

05 May 2012 16:46:32
ramsey's tracking back to defend was disgraceful. He was playing along side song and meant to track back...numerous times you see him jogging back when norwich has a fast break counter attack....you think viera woould have just jogged back like that?? NO , HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SPRINTING SO FAST THAT THE NORWICH GUY WOULD BE s**tTING HIS PANTS WITH THE THOUGHT OF GETTING A HARSH TACKLE....soft players like ramsey do not put any sort of fear into the opposition...its ok to be a soft player if you have incredible skill to make up for it but im sorry ramsey is just way way way below par...i have no idea why wenger keeps starting him

Hes Not A Dm Though the Person To Blame Was Song

I think this is why we need a proper dm like viera, it is vital we get mvila

I agree to an extent but you clearly have a prejudice towards Ramsey as he was by no means the only one. I don't think I've ever seen song sprint anywhere.
joeml

Why people can't open their eyes is beyond me, song was NOT playing DM today Ramsey was, just watch the game Ramsey was consistently behind song that was for a reason. The pre-conceived idea that the midfield is always the same is wrong. Song i repeat was not playing DM today.

Bermy Gooner

The quality in the game went up when ramsey came off and Ox came on 100% improvment

Against 'weaker' sides Wenger rotates the midfield three to maximise their attacking energy going forward, with rosicky predominately playing highest. one 'of the many' problems problems today was that norwich played with two in centre mids, who ramsey and rosicky covered.. so song pushed out from the achour role to press the game, then norwich hit long and the ball often ended up in the whole where song is usually positioned. time and again hoolahan escaped from rosicky or ramsey to end up in space, with the ball, where song would have previously been.

The problem with system today was that song often pressed the ball rosicky should have been pressing, and then rosicky who was marking a midfielder did not have the legs to cover the ground back. really rosicky should have been pressing but wasn't and there fitness told in that battle.
btw i am not fully blaming rosicky other players were at fault.. notably the reason why he couldnt cover the ground was because we were to stretched all over the park for larger periods.

CB

At the end of the day...the point of that post was to explain how s**t Ramsey is....you would be a fool to say Ramsey is Top 4 material!! Everytime I watch him...he gives the ball away.....he is s**t!! My cousin is a Chelsea player and has started to watch Ramsey to see if what I was saying is true and he also believes Ramsey is Arsenal's Kalou...OUT OF PLACE!! J x

Ramsey is such a weak link in our squad right now? He just doesn™t play the same kind of football. Arsenal are an attacking team and NEED to play FAST & FORWARD! And yet every time Ramsey™s on the ball he slows down play and more often than not goes backwards. It™s detrimental to our style and he needs to either buck his ideas up or get shipped out, sooner rather than later.
It™s no coincidence that our poor form as of late has mainly been in the games where he™s started.

05 May 2012 16:33:06
just listening to a lot of radio shows, and a lot of fans were blaming the ref....

Yes he was shocking for not awarding the pen, but honestly blaming the ref is clutching at straws....

norwich should of had a pen, ramsey was lucky not to have a second yellow, yossi kicked out at one of their players....

it wasnt the ref in defence for us. players are 100% to blame for this..

i take my hat off to holt and ruddy. I thought they were top draw!

Well said. You can blame the ref all day long, but ultimately you need to learn to defend, and that with 5 minutes to go there is no need for our full backs to bomb forward. Where the f*** was Gibbs for the 3rd goal?

You can blame him for not giving penalty he must be blind to not give 1 there was 3 very good claims for them in second half plus 1 for norwich 2

05 May 2012 16:28:03
Disappointed that the club did nothing to acknowledge that this was Pat Rice's last home match at the club.

Might be Wengers

Because it wasnt ?

Nor did the team

Or Pat Rice himself didn't want a fuss to be made

05 May 2012 16:20:25
For me personally that was one of the most painful arsenal games to watch. Everyone knew how much was riding on our run in and we dropped points to QPR, Wigan, Stoke and now Norwich. Why does our performance level change so much. If we don't get third it wont be down purely to this match the Wigan and QPR games for me were the main problems if we got 2 draws in those games 3rd would still be ours. Todays performance was disgraceful. Vermaelaen was terrible jackson made he was too aggressive and possitionally poor for the 3rd and holt bullied are defense. The referee was appalling Norwich should of had a pen and could of had another. But we should have definatley had two. How he missed the push on Van Persie i don't know his performance should be reviewed. It could have cost us Champs League and the funding that goes with it. Also now i feel Podolski will probably end up as a replacement for Van Persie.

I do understand people defending ramsey hes one of our own, young and he might regain his confidence and form but we always look sluggish with him on. We looked more direct when Chamberlain came on. (SHOULD HAVE STARTED, ONE OF OUR BEST PLAYERS YET NEVER GETS PLAYED)

Sczesney was bad today he looks so vulnerable when he kicks it out. Too many times he tries playing it out when he should just put his foot through it.

Gervinhio played like the player i thought he would be beating his man getting crosses in and creating chances but that final ball and shot is still lacking.

We could have won the game, They could have one the game. It was open fast paced. We were lucky and unlucky. It was a great game in terms of representing the Premier league and the neutral but it always seems to be us who is involved in these games shows we lack balance. Our attack is strong if we keep Van the man and with the addition of podolski we would be even more threatening.

I still think we need another couple of players a bk up GK ,a cb, a cdm, and a creative midfield backup. Then we would be a true force.

My personal picks.
GK : ? (Back up)
CB: Vertonghen
CDM : For me Fellaini but more likely M'villa
Another attacking option (sell bendter, chamakh,Vela) : Dempsey or Siggurdson or Sessegnon

I know most of these won't happen its just what i would like to happen and believe would make us great again.

05 May 2012 15:59:06
My god how people give up easily.

We are STILL 2 points ahead.

Newcastle STILL need to beat Man city.

Spurs STILL have to beat Villa.

We STILL have 1 game left.

It aint over till its over..........

Mr Blobby

Not a case of giving up but you have to admit periods of this season we've been worse than poor.

That's the attitude we need!! I know it's frustrating but we just have to move on! In still confident!!

@jamesdvincent

Yes! We can still do this, we need to keep our heads up. There are 4 matches we're counting on only 1 of those has to be less than a win, we can still do this. COYG!

Ben X

It's hard to see Spurs not beating Villa... and Newcastle are the in-form team... So my bet is that we finish fourth if we are lucky

Your dreaming, we have blown it. {Ed022's Note - You're*}

Spurs probably gunna beat villa cos heskey is starting with the amount of chances he wastes. why could'nt villa start with weimann

05 May 2012 15:38:49
What a game that was. I just hope it hasn't cost us too badly.

Shezza has a poor game, but we can't forget, he's only young, it's his first full season in the first team. He's not got years and years of first team experiance. So please don't slate him.

Ramsey didn't play to his potential so in hindsight hambo should have started, with Gerv on the left and Benayoun and Rosicky BOTH a head of Song this would have forced there midfield to sit further back allowing Song to have more space to pick a pass. Our two defensive mids (Song and Ramsey) were going nowhere together, we needed Song to sit deep and cover for the full backs and occasionally venture forward, with Rosicky and Benayoun sitting a head of him and if things get clogged, they can drop back to get the ball they also needed to work a lot harder to get back and defend (someting neither of them did).

Kosh played well I felt, even though the back four where quite shakey. Coquelin was brill after coming on and if Sanga had a niggle, Coquelin should have started anyway. Chamack was also very good when he came on, came close with two headers and played a few neat passes. Second half when we played with more attacking mids the whole game opened up and we where massively unlucky not to come out with a win.

Very entertaining match, but as I said, I just hope it doesn't cost us. I can see City winning/drawing with Newcastle but I fear Spuds will win agains Villa, but then drop points against Fulham.

We NEED 3 points against West Brom. Otherwise, well... We all know what will happen. Don't start bitching when we need your support most, get behind the team! COYG!

Ben X. {Ed007's Note - I am assuming you are Ben X and different from the other Ben who sometimes blows me kisses when he is feeling down?}

05 May 2012 15:05:40
F**king Sh1te! Why can't this season just end!

Europa League is looming large now. Jack better get his check book out because he's given 3k to charity. They will finish above is now, we have to accept it.

If we're in the Europa, it's bye bye VanPersie. Need to try and beat West Brom, then hope ManCity and Bayern can do us a favour.

Argued all year that we need more than 2 or 3 signings. It's quite clear that team needs a good 80-90 million spent on it.

All we can do now is hope for the best!

G95

We can't give up now. If we do, it's the whole season wasted. We need to get behind the team and show our full support. All we have to do is beat West Brom. Hopefully Nasri and co. will do us a favour against Newcastle and draw. Then Nasri looses the title and we could finish fouth, then I have a sneaky feeling Fulham might draw against the Spuds. Might even put a Red un' on it!

COYG! Now is our time to be the 12 man!

Ben X.

I think we need more than 3 signings, 3 signings will strengthen the team, but all squads get injuries and bans and then we have to fill those spots.
This squad needs more money spent on it than the available 50mil or so.

05 May 2012 14:58:53
we have good defenders and yet time after time we produce that sort of awful defending , why? our style of play is always going to leave us vulnerable but we need a holding midfielder badly! gilberto has never been replaced apart from briefly by flamini , song is meant to be that player but is usually the furthest forward midfielder! as his constant assists ( and again today ) prove , not saying song shouldnt play as i think he makes a good attacking midfielder , but hes no holding midfielder and we end up getting over run on the break , we should make our priority a holding midfielder in the summer or maybe coquelin is the answer? , and on another note with cl qualification out of are hands now we cant expect rvp to stay iff were not in the cl next season , worried gooner wayne.

05 May 2012 14:53:09
OOMMMFFFGGGG!! AAARRRGGGGHHHHHHHH @:@:@:
We can finish 5th now! Szcesney played AWFUL! Credit to Gervinho, Chamakh and RVP they really came alive. I have no idea how that wasnt a penalty, Ruddy made some crucial saves, Vermalen, Giibs and Song

Im soooo flipping nervous its unbelievable, i have no nails left. i thought we won it when RVP scored, I have NOTHING left to say about Ramsey.

Im soooooo scared of Tomorrow If Tottenham and Newcastle were to win that means we are screwed

A VVEEERRRYYY P***** OF GOONER

TomArsenal

You could clearly see that we wouldn't last when we took the lead. i just can't stop feeling this anger in my gut, so so mad!

BgdGooner

Ramsey was shocking. When we took him off and brought the OX on we looked a different Team.

05 May 2012 14:44:52
How on earth a ref can not see a stone wall pen at the end is beyond me....

but the only people to blame are the players especially the defence.

Instead of making first class assists, I would rather see song making goal saving tackles.

weve blew it big time

I've never in my life seen that kind of performance from a ref some1 pls tell me what did any team have to do to get awarded a pen

Never mind the ref, Norwich at home should be 3 points ALL DAY LONG! so p*ssed its unreal

Colin

05 May 2012 12:33:38
Hoping the home crowd send the boys and Pat off in style
Show all that it's noisy fortress and a place for big names to play, sign up and become legends for current and future Gooners!!
5. 1 today
SY4

Right now this is shocking. The fans are great but Norwich could be 6-1 up right now, this is a disgrace.

Well you got the amount of goals right! We need a man city win tomorrow or we can say bye bye to champions league football, robin van persie and any future big signings